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Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2007,21:02    Quote (k.e @ Aug. 16 2007,23:35) In the same vein, a review of: HOW MUMBO-JUMBO CONQUERED THE WORLD: A SHORT HISTORY OF MODERN DELUSIONS, By Francis Wheen And don't miss On Bullshit. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,01:29    Does stupidity ever just piss you off? One of the senseless stupidities of the internet is, organizations will put cartoons online at the same size they'd put them in print, or at low resolution, even when doing so makes the text illegible. This is incredibly stupid. They're only small in print because in print, size is money. Bigger sizes on the internet are free. Why does Slate bother to put Jeff Danziger cartoons online if you can't read them? http://cartoonbox.slate.com/jeffdanziger/2007/08/09/ retards. But I have never seen a worse example than this: whoever put that online should be smacked in the mouth. Edited by stevestory on Aug. 20 2007,02:32

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,02:10    Christopher Hitchens: Quote Just look at what?s happened to so-called intelligent design?the Creationist movement. It?s been defeated in every court where it?s been tried?in Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, the most conservative district in Pennsylvania around Dover. They?ve been smashed. People don?t want to come from a state they?ll get laughed at for saying they?re from. http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200707u/christopher-hitchens

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,02:18    That Hitchens article mentions judge Jones. Reading over the wikipedia page on the trial, I see this item: Quote # Alan Bonsell testified. His testimony initially included a claim that he did not know where the money had been raised to donate sixty copies of Of Pandas and People to the school's library. On hearing that the money had been raised in William Buckingham's church, and directed through Bonsell's father so that it might be donated anonymously, Judge Jones elected to take over the examination of Bonsell himself, questioning him for about ten minutes. I bet Bonsell was sweating like a whore in church.

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,06:15    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 20 2007,02:18)   Quote ...Judge Jones elected to take over the examination of Bonsell himself, questioning him for about ten minutes. Ah ha! He really is an activist judge, just like Larry told us! -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2007,08:20    Bwahhahahahahahaha thanks for that Stevestory..... Quote Hitchens seems, as one L.A. Weekly writer put it, ?capable of pissing into your grandmother?s fish tank.? Some would deem this an understatement. My kind of guy. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,08:17    FAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! I WANNA GET A KNOBELL PRIX IN UH KREASHUNISM HEHEHE!!!! I hope he (GWD all his sycho-vents etc) takes a breath and suck their arseholes out through their mouths. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,08:32    The Tragedy of Baylor, Prince of Corpus Christi Booooooo hhhhhooooo hoooooo **sniff** Alas, poor DT! I knew him, Whore Ratio (Bill thy name thy self), -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,08:41    Quote Millitant secular progressives in S&M bars (turning milk into G&T's) Same old Kari-Kitch-Tour Dill asshat deep level of Tardism - what does that prove? -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,08:57    Man UD (Upwardly Dim) is soooooo sloooowwww they can't even keep up with Rev. Ted. and the left overs from his trailing comet. The friends of God - Ted Haggart - Evangelicals have the beast sex ....um I think that might have meant to have been best ...but wot-eva -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,10:53    Quote (k.e @ Aug. 21 2007,07:57) Man UD (Upwardly Dim) is soooooo sloooowwww they can't even keep up with Rev. Ted. and the left overs from his trailing comet. The friends of God - Ted Haggart - Evangelicals have the beast sex ....um I think that might have meant to have been best ...but wot-eva Ohhhh, yeah... "It's a fact that evangelicals have the best sex." THEY SAID "EVANGELICALS!" THEY SAID "EVANGELICALS!" They did not say, "Christian" evangelicals! No wonder they're always telling us to, ah, come to worship. "There's a lotta love in this church." Cunt-teasers! So now we know the reason behind this "evangelical atheist" blather! They know. They do know us - and they like what they see. Heeeyyyy, baby, let's get togetha and "debate"! How hawt they are for "debates." Now I see their game! Yeah! First it's throw plates at each other and scream ("I'm so fucking sick of your strawmen! It's over!") and then... Yeah, I know, but the bad ones teach you to find the good ones, knowwhadeyemean? (Worked for me.) -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,11:01    Quote (Kristine @ Aug. 21 2007,18:53) Quote (k.e @ Aug. 21 2007,07:57) Man UD (Upwardly Dim) is soooooo sloooowwww they can't even keep up with Rev. Ted. and the left overs from his trailing comet. The friends of God - Ted Haggart - Evangelicals have the beast sex ....um I think that might have meant to have been best ...but wot-eva Ohhhh, yeah... "It's a fact that evangelicals have the best sex." THEY SAID "EVANGELICALS!" THEY SAID "EVANGELICALS!" They did not say, "Christian" evangelicals! No wonder they're always telling us to, ah, come to worship. "There's a lotta love in this church." Cunt-teasers! So now we know the reason behind this "evangelical atheist" blather! :) They know. They do know us - and they like what they see. Heeeyyyy, baby, let's get togetha and "debate"! How hawt they are for "debates." Now I see their game! Yeah! First it's throw plates at each other and scream ("I'm so fucking sick of your strawmen! It's over!") and then... ;) Yeah, I know, but the bad ones teach you to find the good ones, knowwhadeyemean? :D (Worked for me.) ....ARRRRRK THE DEVIL IN-CAR-TERTAINMENT! I know this is a stupid question, but have you ever done it in the front seat of a VW bug in a drive in (Movie Theatre)? Good, I think everyone should. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,12:03    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyng....mon.php Church-Burning Ebola Slime-Snake-Monkey-Mutant Boys? A little too wordy, methinks.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2007,13:13    Quote (k.e @ Aug. 21 2007,10:01) Quote (Kristine @ Aug. 21 2007,18:53)   Quote (k.e @ Aug. 21 2007,07:57) Man UD (Upwardly Dim) is soooooo sloooowwww they can't even keep up with Rev. Ted. and the left overs from his trailing comet. The friends of God - Ted Haggart - Evangelicals have the beast sex ....um I think that might have meant to have been best ...but wot-eva Ohhhh, yeah... "It's a fact that evangelicals have the best sex." THEY SAID "EVANGELICALS!" THEY SAID "EVANGELICALS!" They did not say, "Christian" evangelicals! No wonder they're always telling us to, ah, come to worship. "There's a lotta love in this church." Cunt-teasers! So now we know the reason behind this "evangelical atheist" blather! They know. They do know us - and they like what they see. Heeeyyyy, baby, let's get togetha and "debate"! How hawt they are for "debates." Now I see their game! Yeah! First it's throw plates at each other and scream ("I'm so fucking sick of your strawmen! It's over!") and then... Yeah, I know, but the bad ones teach you to find the good ones, knowwhadeyemean? (Worked for me.) ....ARRRRRK THE DEVIL IN-CAR-TERTAINMENT! I know this is a stupid question, but have you ever done it in the front seat of a VW bug in a drive in (Movie Theatre)? Good, I think everyone should. It doesn't count, it was during "Thunderdome." ? -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

wildlifer Unregistered (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2007,10:32    <blockquote>It couldn’t happen to a nicer Darwinian. PZ hates everybody - except Richard Dawkins. “A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable.” John A. Davison</blockquote> So sayeth the King of all Crack Pots.

harold Unregistered (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2007,10:32    Why on earth does anyone <b>CARE</b> that a few hard core crackpots will interpret the dismissal of a frivolous lawsuit as "oppression"?  Of course they will.  So what? I care when a relatively sophisticated attempt is made to guide public education or public policy by denying or distorting science.  I don't care that delusional narcissists feel sorry for themselves. Just look at this... <blockquote>It couldn’t happen to a nicer Darwinian. PZ hates everybody - except Richard Dawkins.</blockquote> BWAHAHAHAHAHA!  But if PZ could be sued for "slandering" Pivar, PZ could sue YOU for "slandering" him with this remark!  Can you "prove" that PZ Meyers "hates everyone"?  In fact, your remark is far more obnoxious and unfair than PZ's was.  I've almost never seen a better example of total lack of insight. I'd say "grow up",  but it's obviously hopeless.

afdave Posts: 1621 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,08:40    Hello to all my good friends at AtBC ... hope you don't mind if I scrawl a message to my IIDB friends here on your bathroom wall ... While the good folks at IIDB allow me to post pretty freely there (unlike some forums *cough*wesley*cough*), they don't like me criticizing other IIDB forum members, and there is one particularly biased moderator over there -- Wordtraveller -- who issues me infractions regularly for all kinds of bogus things ... So ... What I want to say is this ... I want all good scientifically minded people at IIDB (and elsewhere) to be aware of my posting habits so that they can interact with me freely without interference from certain *cough* how shall we say this nicely? ... er ... more troublesome posters who all happen to reside in California (how fortuitous) -- Constant Mews, Occam's Aftershave, Eric Murphy, Deadman_932 -- to name a few.  Their posts are typically either laced with nastiness or are just very content free.  Three of them have very little regard for forum rules and typically continue their behavior even after being scolded by the mods.  Two of them got suspended from RD.net for continual outbursting. So ... in order to avoid these folks, let me fill you in on a secret ... I generally post between 5 am and 9 am central ... hopefully before these folks get up out of bed! Just thought you should know. ***************************** Also ... I have recently opened my blog for comments at http://afdave.wordpress.com and will be trying to write daily articles.  I am adopting the same rules as IIDB and enforcing them strictly ... please read them. -------------- A DILEMMA FOR THE COMMITTED NATURALIST A Hi-tech alien spaceship lands on earth ... DESIGNED. A Hi-tech alien rotary motor found in a cell ... NOT DESIGNED. http://afdave.wordpress.com/....ess.com

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,08:59    why would you want to spend time criticizing other IIDB forum members when you have so many unanswered questions awaiting you? everybody is already aware of your posting "habits". If you have the same rules as IIDB why not post there instead? Also, everybody, AFDave lost his debate at IIDB by something like 150 to 1 votes. No wonder he wants to run away and hide. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,10:07    Quote or are just very content free WARNING! WARNING! Irony meter going critical! Evacuate immediately! -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,11:18    Hey! Blipey turns 34 today! Have a great birthday! Go visit Dave Scot! Poke a stick through the bars of Joe Gallien's cage! -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,11:35    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 24 2007,19:18) Hey! Blipey turns 34 today! Have a great birthday! Go visit Dave Scot! ?Poke a stick through the bars of Joe Gallien's cage! He he he, so young! Is anyone having his babies? -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,11:39    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 24 2007,11:18) Hey! Blipey turns 34 today! Have a great birthday! Go visit Dave Scot! ?Poke a stick through the bars of Joe Gallien's cage! Arrr, ye be right. Happy birthday Blipey. It's a pity you're a clown... -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,12:03    Quote (k.e @ Aug. 24 2007,11:35) Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 24 2007,19:18) Hey! Blipey turns 34 today! Have a great birthday! Go visit Dave Scot! ?Poke a stick through the bars of Joe Gallien's cage! He he he, so young! Is anyone having his babies? I had one yesterday with a nice Chianti. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,12:32    Quote I had one yesterday with a nice Chianti. Congratulations. I hadn't realized that you had obtained the office of Bishop of Bath and Wells. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,12:56    Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 24 2007,11:03) Quote (k.e @ Aug. 24 2007,11:35)   Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 24 2007,19:18) Hey! Blipey turns 34 today! Have a great birthday! Go visit Dave Scot! ?Poke a stick through the bars of Joe Gallien's cage! He he he, so young! Is anyone having his babies? I had one yesterday with a nice Chianti. Where are you, Dr. Lector? Dr. Lector? I have a delivery of fava beans you must sign for... -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

ericmurphy Posts: 2460 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,14:52    Quote (afdave @ Aug. 24 2007,06:40) What I want to say is this ... I want all good scientifically minded people at IIDB (and elsewhere) to be aware of my posting habits so that they can interact with me freely without interference from certain *cough* how shall we say this nicely? ... er ... more troublesome posters who all happen to reside in California (how fortuitous) -- Constant Mews, Occam's Aftershave, Eric Murphy, Deadman_932 -- to name a few. ?Their posts are typically either laced with nastiness or are just very content free. ?Three of them have very little regard for forum rules and typically continue their behavior even after being scolded by the mods. ?Two of them got suspended from RD.net for continual outbursting. When you say, "troublesome," Dave, I think what mean to say is that these people, included among them me, have a tendency to post messages that completely obliterate your arguments, over and over and over again, and after a while it makes you feel frustrated and put-upon. But that's okay; that's how it's supposed to make you feel. -------------- 2006 MVD award for most dogged defense of scientific sanity "Atheism is a religion the same way NOT collecting stamps is a hobby." —Scott Adams

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,15:01    Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Aug. 24 2007,10:07) That, by the way, is a great photo -- it's of the Castle Romeo test shot at Bikini island in 1954, which detonated a prototype hydrogen bomb known as The Runt.  The Runt was a modification of The Shrimp.  The Shrimp was the first American hydrogen bomb to use solid fusion fuel (lithium-deuteride that had been enriched with lithium-6).  In The Runt, unenriched natural lithium was used instead.  The yeild, at around 11 megatons, was higher than expected. It's such a photogenic shot that I picked a high-res version of it a couple months ago as the cover for a book I'm editing, titled "Hell's Fire: A Documentary History of the American Atomic and Thermonuclear Weapons Projects, From Hiroshima to the Cold War and the War on Terror". -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,15:04    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Aug. 24 2007,12:32) Quote I had one yesterday with a nice Chianti. Congratulations. I hadn't realized that you had obtained the office of Bishop of Bath and Wells. Blackadder fan?

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,15:49    EEWWWWW - For what It's Worth: Bolt-Ons For Coulter... (I like the comment that says she should have saved some dollars for her face...) http://cityrag.blogs.com/main/2007/08/ann-coulters-bo.html -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 24 2007,15:53    Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 24 2007,15:49) EEWWWWW - For what It's Worth: Bolt-Ons For Coulter... (I like the comment that says she should have saved some dollars for her face...) http://cityrag.blogs.com/main/2007/08/ann-coulters-bo.html [EDIT:typo] Dear god, now she's irritating, stupid, insane, hideous, and somehow even MORE trashy than she was before. My god someone whould shoot her. In the face. With a shotgun. Not that I want her dead, I just don't want to ever see that face again. -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

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