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Zarquon



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,07:09   

Which one of those isn't totally rubbish?



wait for it....


the round one on the right!

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,07:23   

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Interweb folks, what would be the effect of us all putting expelled exposed links in our sigs?

I'm not an interwebber but Apollos over at UD has an interesting factoid:    
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Blog comments (and typically forum comments as well) instruct Google and other responsible crawlers to ignore comment hyperlinks. (rel=”nofollow”)

It makes a good spam deterrent, and prevents Google bombing from spurious blog and forum commenting.

You need a cluster of “legitimate” sites, committed to the same purpose, for a Google bomb to work properly, AFAIK.

Plausible, and therefore a very rare gem indeed from the tardpits. Of course, the explanation could simply be that apollos is a sock puppet. Oh wait, so is everybody else on UD.

The version of ikonBoard used here predates general use of the "nofollow" tag. Your comments as of yet have all the link magic intact.

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,07:59   

Uh-oh!

Movie Mom at Beliefnet.com: "shrill and irrational" and "he should understand that freedom of speech also guarantees the freedom not to have to listen to mangled, manipulative, and disingenuous rhetoric like this."

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Venus Mousetrap



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,08:10   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 17 2008,21:41)
Woowee!

"Red Carpet" Premier Gala Thingy:


The church was booked so we went with 'plan B'.

My God, even their photography sucks, and I am NOT a photographer. However I know that the three top rules of photography are:

1) Don't point camera at sun.
2) Don't point camera at things that are pointing at sun.
3) Don't photograph people next to trashcans.

Of course, it may be one of the writing staff, in which case I apologise to the Dalek homeworld for insulting one of their offspring.

  
dogdidit



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,08:16   

Quote (Venus Mousetrap @ April 18 2008,08:10)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ April 17 2008,21:41)
Woowee!

"Red Carpet" Premier Gala Thingy:


The church was booked so we went with 'plan B'.

My God, even their photography sucks, and I am NOT a photographer. However I know that the three top rules of photography are:

1) Don't point camera at sun.
2) Don't point camera at things that are pointing at sun.
3) Don't photograph people next to trashcans.

Of course, it may be one of the writing staff, in which case I apologise to the Dalek homeworld for insulting one of their offspring.

4) When getting the gang together for a group photo, agree beforehand on a dress code.

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,08:19   

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(Latest | Earliest) View (newer 50) (older 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500)


Anyone want to guess what that's from?




You might get a kick out of this one.

Here it is

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improvius



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,08:19   

Quote (Dr.GH @ April 17 2008,16:25)
Quote (improvius @ April 17 2008,06:57)
Reviews are starting to roll in now.  Current Tomatometer rating: 11% and falling.

Down to 9%.

8%

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,08:29   

I see that the usual idjwits at UD have engaged their persecution complexes in order to bitch and moan about the unfairness of US copyright enforcement. Naturally, this allows them to avoid the real question - Are the makers of Expelled really that stupid?

I guess it is pretty easy to be cavalier about the intellectual property of others when you have no intellectual property of your own.

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dogdidit



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,08:40   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 18 2008,07:23)
Your comments as of yet have all the link magic intact.

Good.
Speaking of which: ExpelledExposed is still holding at #8 on a Google search for "expelled". Pharyngula's thread is at #5. Best of all, News Results for expelled is #1, just below the movie showtimes widget. The reviews are *snigger* less than glowing.

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,09:00   

ETA: Info too sensitive.
Regards,
Secret Agent BWE

Just sayin.

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When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
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Jkrebs



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,09:10   

Albatrossity writes,

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I guess it is pretty easy to be cavalier about the intellectual property of others when you have no intellectual property of your own.


Sentence of the week!

  
caerbannog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,09:19   

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Quote (Dr.GH @ April 17 2008,16:25)
 
Quote (improvius @ April 17 2008,06:57)
Reviews are starting to roll in now.  Current Tomatometer rating: 11% and falling.

Down to 9%.

8%

If you look at the "top critics" section over at rottentomatoes.com, you'll see that Expelled is "running the table" at a perfect 00%.   Expelled is even smoking Battlefield Earth (4%) in the "top critics" department.

Here's hoping that the collateral damage from Expelled ends a few careers.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,09:42   

http://www.alexa.com/data....=Medium

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,10:03   

Clearly the deities are miffed at someone; there was an earthquake in the Illinois/Indiana border region this morning.

J-Dog and RTH and the rest of the infidels in the Chicago area might want to take it easy on NeinStein and his crockumentary, or there might be another. Just ask Pat Robertson...

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Reginald Beasley



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,10:13   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ April 18 2008,08:29)
I see that the usual idjwits at UD have engaged their persecution complexes in order to bitch and moan about the unfairness of US copyright enforcement. Naturally, this allows them to avoid the real question - Are the makers of Expelled really that stupid?

I guess it is pretty easy to be cavalier about the intellectual property of others when you have no intellectual property of your own.

My favourite argument so far is "The song Imagine says 'imagine no possessions!'  Yoko is certainly not living up to that!"


Have we figured out if the song is actually in the final cut?   I thought before when they said 'momentary,' they meant only in the promotional bits, but then I got to thinking maybe they mean momentary temporally because the song is only in for 25 seconds.

  
Raevmo



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,10:26   

Rumor has it on http://www.torrentportal.com/torrents.php the movie can be downloaded (search "expelled", bottom 2 results allegedly good quality copies). Please don't break the law though.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,10:34   

Indeed, let's not be promoting theft.

Plus, it's not like the Expelled folks are going to be keeping your ticket money anyway.

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,10:55   

Seattle Times: "A hard-core, fundamentalist bit of right-wing propaganda"

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,11:00   

Expelled gets a prestigious no stars in the Seattle Times (via a news service - they had better things to do themselves).

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Pop quiz: What is the real source of evil in the modern world? Greed? Intolerance?

Well, according to "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," it's Darwinism


It looks like they've shot themselves in the foot with the "evolutionary biologists = Nazis" angle.  A lot of what I'm reading is commenting on the ridiculousness of this claim - not surprisingly as its sheer silliness requires absolutely no knowledge of science to understand.  Concentrating on ID, rather than slandering science and scientists, might have had more impact on a general audience.  If only they'd devoted more time to outlining the theory of intelligent des - what?  Oh.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,11:26   

Two films get a D+

http://www.mlive.com/enterta....&coll=7

Expelled is not one of them

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,11:52   

Quote (improvius @ April 18 2008,07:19)
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Quote (improvius @ April 17 2008,06:57)
Reviews are starting to roll in now.  Current Tomatometer rating: 11% and falling.

Down to 9%.

8%

My favorite review thus far:
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Either the filmmakers suckered these [pro-Darwinist] participants under false pretenses, or the evolutionists are more open to debate than Stein suggests.

:D

Ben Stein, you're finished in Hollywood. Can we say box office poison?

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:00   

Eddy Goombah does it again.

Expelled, the song.

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Ben Stein is a Douche.

I'm busy recording this song for him in the studio. If anyone wants to construct a video for it, please let me know.



You may remember Eddy as the writer of this classic:

Tribute to Kent Hovind (AKA "You're a FuckTard, aren't ya Kent?")

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:19   

Quote (Kristine @ April 18 2008,17:52)
Quote (improvius @ April 18 2008,07:19)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 17 2008,16:25)
 
Quote (improvius @ April 17 2008,06:57)
Reviews are starting to roll in now.  Current Tomatometer rating: 11% and falling.

Down to 9%.

8%

My favorite review thus far:
 
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Either the filmmakers suckered these [pro-Darwinist] participants under false pretenses, or the evolutionists are more open to debate than Stein suggests.

:D

Ben Stein, you're finished in Hollywood. Can we say box office poison?

I don't know, there seems to be no depths which Hollywood will not plumb. I have, after all, seen movies!

And given the budget that fundies in the USA seem to have at their disposal....

One thing I do know is where there's muck there's brass. In other words, as long as fundies keep paying the dreck will keep coming, and Ben Stein will surf a wave of utter dreck all the way to the bank.

My my, could that be why they're doing it?

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:29   

Quote (Louis @ April 18 2008,11:19)
 
Quote (Kristine @ April 18 2008,17:52)
 
Quote (improvius @ April 18 2008,07:19)
   
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 17 2008,16:25)
     
Quote (improvius @ April 17 2008,06:57)
Reviews are starting to roll in now.  Current Tomatometer rating: 11% and falling.

Down to 9%.

8%

My favorite review thus far:
   
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Either the filmmakers suckered these [pro-Darwinist] participants under false pretenses, or the evolutionists are more open to debate than Stein suggests.

:D

Ben Stein, you're finished in Hollywood. Can we say box office poison?

I don't know, there seems to be no depths which Hollywood will not plumb. I have, after all, seen movies!

And given the budget that fundies in the USA seem to have at their disposal....

One thing I do know is where there's muck there's brass. In other words, as long as fundies keep paying the dreck will keep coming, and Ben Stein will surf a wave of utter dreck all the way to the bank.

My my, could that be why they're doing it?

Louis

Most movies, even in America, are not funded by and for fundies. They are funded by and for hedonists, who watch the bottom line.

And this is about as bottom as I've seen a movie go. :) It deserves it, too. Hands-down the worst film I've ever attended (and when I was reviewing films I gave Eddie Murphy's Dr. Dolittle a half star out of five).

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:37   

New York Times:
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One of the sleaziest documentaries to arrive in a very long time, “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” is a conspiracy-theory rant masquerading as investigative inquiry....Mixing physical apples and metaphysical oranges at every turn “Expelled” is an unprincipled propaganda piece that insults believers and nonbelievers alike. In its fudging, eliding and refusal to define terms, the movie proves that the only expulsion here is of reason itself.


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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:45   

Orlando Sentinel:

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...a cynical attempt to sucker Christian conservatives into thinking they're losing the "intelligent design" debate because of academic "prejudice."


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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:47   

Quote (Lou FCD @ April 18 2008,13:45)
Orlando Sentinel:
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...a cynical attempt to sucker Christian conservatives into thinking they're losing the "intelligent design" debate because of academic "prejudice."

The same review is posted at the Dallas Morning News. Both addressed to the heart of Expelled!'s putative audience.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:48   

Quote (improvius @ April 18 2008,09:19)
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 17 2008,16:25)
Quote (improvius @ April 17 2008,06:57)
Reviews are starting to roll in now.  Current Tomatometer rating: 11% and falling.

Down to 9%.

8%

7%

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:52   

Quote (improvius @ April 18 2008,06:19)
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 17 2008,16:25)
 
Quote (improvius @ April 17 2008,06:57)
Reviews are starting to roll in now.  Current Tomatometer rating: 11% and falling.

Down to 9%.

8%

7%

Missed it by >< that much

Edited by Dr.GH on April 18 2008,10:53

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(Permalink) Posted: April 18 2008,12:54   

Quote (Dr.GH @ April 18 2008,13:52)
Quote (improvius @ April 18 2008,06:19)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 17 2008,16:25)
 
Quote (improvius @ April 17 2008,06:57)
Reviews are starting to roll in now.  Current Tomatometer rating: 11% and falling.

Down to 9%.

8%

7%

Missed it by >< that much

You gotta be quick around here, Doc.

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