ericmurphy
Posts: 2460 Joined: Oct. 2005
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Bill, there is absolutely no reason why you can't lay out what your geocentric toy universe looks like before you hide, a la Dembski, in the thickets of mathematical formalism. Einstein was able to lay out the majority of his thinking by reference to easily-understood concepts like passenger trains, elevators, and watches without so much as a single equation. Obviously, the proofs of his hypotheses required recourse to mathematics, but there's absolutely no reason why we have to see the proofs before we see the hypothesis they're intended to support. You absolutely can lay out what your universe looks like before you describe it mathematically. So:
We already know, by definition, that your model requires that all astronomical objects orbit the earth. Therefore, what are the orbital radii for the following objects:
Moon Sun The other eight planets (the famous ones, anyway) Stars Extra-galactic objects (e.g. other galaxies, quasars, etc., and yes, it's fine to claim that they're not really extra-galactic. I just want a distance.)
Next:
What mechanism holds those objects in their orbits?
What defines the limits of your universe? What is outside your universe?
There. You don't need to use any mathematics or equations or logic or anything to answer those questions. You might need to use math, logic, etc. to prove your hypothesis, but you're putting the cart before the horse. In order to answer the questions I've given you, you don't even need to discuss the nature of spacetime or even what those objects are composed of. They could made out of ping-pong ball material, for all it matters at this point.
But please; staring at screen after screen of equations is getting really stultifying. I've been waiting for this stuff for six months so far, and all I've seen from you is equations that don't connect in any way to an actual hypothesis.
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