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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2017,14:29   

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Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,01:41   

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Well, I hate seeing a page with just that on it, so:
Aficionados will appreciate the tard de farce, with a big helping of persecution complex thrown in, by Charles in a back-and-forth with jdk on the Social justice warriors thread starting here (UD link).
KF likes it, so you can tell it's none too bright.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,09:13   

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Well, I hate seeing a page with just that on it, so:
Aficionados will appreciate the tard de farce, with a big helping of persecution complex thrown in, by Charles in a back-and-forth with jdk on the Social justice warriors thread starting here (UD link).
KF likes it, so you can tell it's none too bright.

If you enjoy KF meltdowns there are a couple of doozies at comment 20

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,13:19   

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jdkApril 6, 2017 at 7:07 am
kf, I can’t even imagine trying to parse, much less respond to, that huge mishmash of a paragraph. It’s like one remark from me unleashed a barrage of every overused apocalyptic, hyperbolic meme in your arsenal. That is no way to have a discussion with anyone, I don’t think.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-628490

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,13:21   

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Armand JacksApril 6, 2017 at 10:13 am
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Where then, have we seen policy, law, courts, administration and more reflecting the self-referential incoherence, subjectivism, relativism, ideological agendas, pressure group agit prop and media shadow-show games coming from that have led to amorality, nihilism and the ongoing worst holocaust in history (of our posterity: 800+ millions in 40+ y and mounting at 1 mn/wk)? The implied imposition of might and manipulation make ‘right,’ ‘truth,’ ‘knowledge,’ ‘justice,’ ‘rights,’ ‘law’ etc? The resulting ongoing stereotyping, strawmannising, bigoted scapegoating and targetting of ethical theists in the Judaeo-Christian tradition?

WTF?
Why do you insist on bringing abortion into every debate? Are you incapable of keeping on subject.?

But since you asked “Where then, have we seen policy, law, courts, administration and more reflecting the self-referential incoherence, subjectivism, relativism, ideological agendas, pressure group agit prop and media shadow-show games…blah, blah, blah”. Might I answer, who was responsible for the crusades, inquisition, forced conversions, hundreds of civil wars, hatred driven propaganda, residential schools, the jailing and execution of people for blasphemy, the jailing and execution of people for homosexuality, and a host of other atrocities? Christians were persecuted for the first few hundred years of their religion and have been playing the martyr card ever since. Atheists have a far longer history of being persecuted but you don’t hear us complaining about it.

The rest of your comment, gibberish, just like the first part. If you want to discuss issues openly and honestly, you would be well advised to tone down your sermonizing, patronizing and arrogant attitude.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/social-justice-warriors-hit-engineering/#comment-628511

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,13:23   

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Armand JacksApril 6, 2017 at 10:18 am
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PS: Plato’s warning about evolutionary materialism in The Laws Bk X still patently obtains, 2350+ years later:

Since evolutionary materialism didn’t exist in Plato’s day, your point is taken for the nonsense it is. Entertaining nonsense, but nonsense none the less.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/social-justice-warriors-hit-engineering/#comment-628512

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,13:25   

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Armand JacksApril 6, 2017 at 11:39 am
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Do you really think that if we acknowledged the sanctity of life that we would so cavalierly act towards posterity in the womb?

Leaving aside the ridiculous “posterity in the womb” BS, you still have not addressed your hypocrisy in this. Let me repeat it in case you have conveniently forgotten.

If the early term fetus has the same right to life as you and I, why would you refuse to impose first degree murder and minimum penalty if a woman is found guilt of having an abortion? It is a very simple question. Why do you keep avoiding it? I can only perceive of two reasons:

1) you really don’t believe that the early term fetus has the same right to life afforded to you and I; or,
2) you don’t believe that a woman has the same intellectual and emotional stability as you and I to be culpable of understanding what she is doing when she has an abortion.

Your options are hypocrisy or misogyny. If you have a third option, I would love to hear it.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-628521

I really like this Armand Jacks person.  :p

   
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,15:11   

What makes people like Sal tick? To me it looks like he is doing his best to find a way that doesn't exist. I wrote him off many years ago.

ETA: I can't say why I found the reason to mention Sal here, must be something I read while raiding the web.

Edited by Quack on April 06 2017,15:20

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,16:30   

I've seen him at TSZ. No idea what drives him. Denial and arrogance?

TSZ had some interesting discussions in the beginning, but now it's mostly tedious philosophical arguments with three or four halfwits. I haven't found it interesting lately.

   
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2017,17:26   

Any blog that allows Mung to post ...

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,03:43   

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Armand JacksApril 6, 2017 at 11:39 am
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Do you really think that if we acknowledged the sanctity of life that we would so cavalierly act towards posterity in the womb?

Leaving aside the ridiculous “posterity in the womb” BS, you still have not addressed your hypocrisy in this. Let me repeat it in case you have conveniently forgotten.

If the early term fetus has the same right to life as you and I, why would you refuse to impose first degree murder and minimum penalty if a woman is found guilt of having an abortion? It is a very simple question. Why do you keep avoiding it? I can only perceive of two reasons:

1) you really don’t believe that the early term fetus has the same right to life afforded to you and I; or,
2) you don’t believe that a woman has the same intellectual and emotional stability as you and I to be culpable of understanding what she is doing when she has an abortion.

Your options are hypocrisy or misogyny. If you have a third option, I would love to hear it.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-628521

I really like this Armand Jacks person.  :p

And now Gordo has posted a FFT post about him/her.
Linky

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,07:30   

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Armand JacksApril 7, 2017 at 2:44 am
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Food for Thought Dept: why are atheists and especially those involved with evolutionary materialistic scientism or its fellow traveller ideologies and agendas so agitated? KF

Agitated? I’m not the one posting thousand word comments and dedicated OPs bemoaning the evils of someone else’s opinions.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism/fft-charles-unmasks-the-anti-id-trollish-tactic-of-attacking-god-christian-values-and-worl
dview-themes/#comment-628578

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,08:10   

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Armand JacksApril 7, 2017 at 2:38 am
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The bridges, pipelines and power grids must stand up under stress, and that has to do with soundness of design. Which has little to do with XY vs XX chromosomes...

I agree. Then why did you bring up the subject of abortion?

But, I have noticed that when there is a question that you don’t want to answer that you simply accuse the questioner of being a troll. If you want me to stop asking you about your ridiculous abortion-holocaust conflation, simply provide me with a rational argument as to why the woman should not be charged with first degree murder. As I mentioned above, the only two reasons that I have been able to come up with are hipocrysy or misogyny. If you have a rationale that does not require one of these, I would be glad to hear it.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/social-justice-warriors-hit-engineering/#comment-628577

   
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,08:50   

Does Gordie really hate the English language? Is that why he takes such glee in torturing it?

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,09:03   

Just read this. For some reason it made me think of UD.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,11:08   

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Does Gordie really hate the English language? Is that why he takes such glee in torturing it?

Just this "strawmannising" is that not a werd?

OK.

So torturising, obliteratingisation or blosformagationization  may only count as supersymetrical non existant bloviationings in KF's preinitiated body and untransformed mind.

However, in his cave with the flushed dead and postumely chained featal suplicants he continues to tug back to the world above of the Christian faithful with their discarded and buried umbilical cords.

Life is leaving KF behind in it's bloody wake.

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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,11:53   

Quote (CeilingCat @ April 06 2017,18:26)
Any blog that allows Mung to post ...

Hey, Mung is TSZ's most intelligent and polite IDCist!

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,14:46   

Mung is polite relative to the other creationists at TSZ. He's more polite than a few of the evolution-supporters there.

   
Jkrebs



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,14:51   

I can't believe I let myself get started discussing things at UD. According to kf, not taking Biblical prophecies seriously is a manifestation of "selective hyperskepticism".

Uncommondescent, home of Christian apologetics!

What a waste of my time. :-(

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,15:05   

I follow them to mock them, and to giggle when others do so. Argue with them? Waste of time. They don't want to learn anything. That's why they never crack a textbook. They just want to fight for jesus and imagine they won.

   
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,16:28   

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Armand JacksApril 7, 2017 at 2:44 am
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Food for Thought Dept: why are atheists and especially those involved with evolutionary materialistic scientism or its fellow traveller ideologies and agendas so agitated? KF

Agitated? I’m not the one posting thousand word comments and dedicated OPs bemoaning the evils of someone else’s opinions.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism/fft-charles-unmasks-the-anti-id-trollish-tactic-of-attacking-god-christian-values-and-worl

dview-themes/#comment-628578

ID is too science!  It's not a crude attempt to get religion into public-school classrooms.  How can you suggest such a thing?

That's why attacking God and Christian values is an anti-ID tactic.

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,22:34   

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Mung is polite relative to the other creationists at TSZ. He's more polite than a few of the evolution-supporters there.

I've been reading his posts since the days of ARN.  Ten or fifteen years, probably.  In all that time, I've seen one (1) post of his that wasn't a complete waste of time.  I think it was reprinted on TSZ recently.  

In it, he posted his version of some kind of evolution program that was written in a language I'd never seen before.  The only interesting thing about the message was that the programming language looked rather interesting.  He admitted that the logic purposely did not correctly describe the problem it was directed to.  Complete waste of time.  

The only thing Mung can say in his defense is that he's not as bad as Sal.  Their messages are the equivalent of spitting on the sidewalk except they both think they're being clever.  And don't get me started on JoeG.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,22:36   

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Quote (CeilingCat @ April 06 2017,18:26)
Any blog that allows Mung to post ...

Hey, Mung is TSZ's most intelligent and polite IDCist!

And we probably have his word on that!

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...after reviewing the arguments, I’m inclined to believe that the critics of ENCODE’s bold claim were mostly right, and that the proportion of our genome which is functional is probably between 10 and 20%.  --Vincent Torley, uncommondescent.com 1/1/2016

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2017,22:42   

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Just read this. For some reason it made me think of UD.

Based on the article one has to conclude that UD is run by deep socks and Gordon E. Mullings is its deepest:
   
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writing shorter posts
   
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that are often downvoted or reported by other users.
   
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and they are often central to their communities,
   
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generating a lot of activity.

Writing longer ignored posts, claiming his arguments are the center of ID and pretending activity by commenting on his own posts is just the camouflage for Gordon's Kairosfocus sock puppet. And I must say that there are not many socks who contributed more to ridicule and ruin UD and ID.
Well done, Gordon.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2017,12:37   

Methinks AJ is on borrowed time.

   
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Armand JacksApril 8, 2017 at 11:12 am
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As for another objector:…

Followed by the usual KF rhetoric and talking points, none of which have answered the question that I have repeatedly asked. Let me repeat:

If the fetus from conception on has the same right to
life as you and I, why should women who have abortions not be charged with first degree murder?


Is it because of hipocrysy, misogyny, or some other justification that I am not aware of? As a rule of thumb, when you can’t answer a simple question, the intelligent thing to do is question your view point.



http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism....-themes

Edited by stevestory on April 08 2017,13:41

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2017,15:01   

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Armand JacksApril 8, 2017 at 1:47 pm
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The repetition of an already adequately answered objection is typical trollish behaviour.

Is it trollish behaviour when I respond to an OP written by you that completely misrepresents what I have said? You must be using s different dictionary than mine.
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Onlookers wishing to ponder are directed to the example of Wilberforce, …

I have repeatedly addressed this and you have repeatedly ignored my comments, choosing to attack my character instead. Here, let me repeat what I have said:

Wilberforce was instrumental in abolishing slavery. But it also required the bloodiest few years in US history to actually end it. Wilberforce and his act did not end the slave trade. It continued for some time after the act, with captains preferring to toss slaves overboard rather than pay the fine. What ended the slave trade was ending the demand for slavery (US civil war). It is ending the demand for abortion that I have been arguing for, and for which I have provided real life relevant examples.

All you have offered is Wilberforce. An irrelevant example in this case. But even Wilberforce was in favour of charging slavers after the act was passed. Something that you, for some strange reason, are unwilling to do to women after you have made abortions illegal. You present an irrelevant example but refuse to follow it through to its logical. conclusion. Frankly, I am baffled.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism/fft-charles-unmasks-the-anti-id-trollish-tactic-of-attacking-god-christian-values-and-worl
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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2017,04:45   

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Referencing Wilberforce in this respect has no value as he supported the charging of those breaking the slave trade laws. As there was never a penalty associated with the slave trade, it made sense that they had to develop charges and penalties from scratch. But we already have charges and penalties on the books for the premeditated killing of a human being. Not using existing laws to prosecute women who have abortions is either hipocrysy (consciously or subconsciously acknowledging that the fetus does not have the same right to life as you or I) or misogyny (believing that women are intellectually and/or emotionally incapable of making informed decisions). I would love to think that there is a third option, but I am skeptical.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2017,12:10   

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Truth Will Set You FreeApril 9, 2017 at 10:53 am
I spend zero time going to atheist sites. They are absolutely meaningless to me. Heard (and refuted) all their arguments at least a hundred times.

Atheists, on the other hand, can’t seem to stop themselves from frequenting theism sites and posting comments, even taking the time to engage in long discussion threads.

That is fascinating to me.

I have zero desire to visit atheist websites, let alone post comments and engage in long discussions.


why...it's almost like he's saying UD is a theist site. I thought ID was just science, not religion?

http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism....-628745

Edited by stevestory on April 09 2017,13:12

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2017,19:40   

DS gets under KF's skin, KF writes 2,334-word reply comment, and then more comments.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism....-628770

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2017,19:54   

Being under somebody else's skin sounds like an uncomfortable place to be.

  
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