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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2017,23:23   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 15 2017,11:13)
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AJ, the side-tracking and refusal to face consciences benumbed in the context of the ongoing worst holocaust in history continue; where amelioration of holocaust is another word for continuation of holocaust under false colours of moderation. As for history/facts, you appear to be utterly unaware of and unwilling to face the tellingly parallel case of Wilberforce and the contrasting track records of radical revolution and reformation rooted in prophetic, visionary intellectual and cultural leadership — exactly what that case is all about. G’day. KF

So this is too fucking real.  :D

Wilberforce was a rather late member of the "Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade" joining the British Quakers and Anglicans who organized in 1787. His parliamentary campaigns were strongly enhanced by their support.

Two of the principle organizers, and monetary supporters were Josiah Wedgwood, and Erasmus Darwin.

They were both grandfathers of Charles R. Darwin.

See;

Desdmond, Adrian and James Moore
2009 “Darwin’s Sacred Cause” New York: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt

   
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,04:01   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,22:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

   
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One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

Who does KF suggest should serve on such a commission? How would they be selected? What criteria would be used in their selection? How many questions get begged every time KF opens his mouth?

No matter what shortcomings the government of my country has (and they are currently many, in my view), I am pleased that KF has no say in the determination of our government's policy.

Of course, it must be apparent to the most casual observer that KF has no say in the government of Montserrat. I stand ready to be corrected, but the people of Montserrat seem to be prepared to continue their current arrangement for selecting their representatives. By their normal democratic processes.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,04:33   

Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,12:01)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,22:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

     
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One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

Who does KF suggest should serve on such a commission? How would they be selected? What criteria would be used in their selection? How many questions get begged every time KF opens his mouth?

No matter what shortcomings the government of my country has (and they are currently many, in my view), I am pleased that KF has no say in the determination of our government's policy.

Of course, it must be apparent to the most casual observer that KF has no say in the government of Montserrat. I stand ready to be corrected, but the people of Montserrat seem to be prepared to continue their current arrangement for selecting their representatives. By their normal democratic processes.

I suspect that a clear majority of the total of 3866 registered voters on Monserrat who have had the unfortunate experience of having to listen to Mr Gordon Mullings would concur. Of those 3866 voters 2750 'exercised their mandate' in the last election. If Gordon had the slightest charm or ability, he could speak to everyone of those voters personally in a matter of weeks to get his Theocratic platform elected. If I knew he was at my front door I'd let the dogs out.

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timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,04:53   

Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 20 2017,04:33)
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,12:01)
 
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,22:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

       
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One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

Who does KF suggest should serve on such a commission? How would they be selected? What criteria would be used in their selection? How many questions get begged every time KF opens his mouth?

No matter what shortcomings the government of my country has (and they are currently many, in my view), I am pleased that KF has no say in the determination of our government's policy.

Of course, it must be apparent to the most casual observer that KF has no say in the government of Montserrat. I stand ready to be corrected, but the people of Montserrat seem to be prepared to continue their current arrangement for selecting their representatives. By their normal democratic processes.

I suspect that a clear majority of the total of 3866 registered voters on Monserrat who have had the unfortunate experience of having to listen to Mr Gordon Mullings would concur. Of those 3866 voters 2750 'exercised their mandate' in the last election. If Gordon had the slightest charm or ability, he could speak to everyone of those voters personally in a matter of weeks to get his Theocratic platform elected. If I knew he was at my front door I'd let the dogs out.

In my part of the world, dogs don't get to vote.

Which situation, Paddy (the Magnificent Hound) regards as evidence of the shortcomings of the human kind.

Paddy waves a condescending paw.

  
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,05:16   

Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,04:53)
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Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,12:01)
   
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Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

         
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One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

Who does KF suggest should serve on such a commission? How would they be selected? What criteria would be used in their selection? How many questions get begged every time KF opens his mouth?

No matter what shortcomings the government of my country has (and they are currently many, in my view), I am pleased that KF has no say in the determination of our government's policy.

Of course, it must be apparent to the most casual observer that KF has no say in the government of Montserrat. I stand ready to be corrected, but the people of Montserrat seem to be prepared to continue their current arrangement for selecting their representatives. By their normal democratic processes.

I suspect that a clear majority of the total of 3866 registered voters on Monserrat who have had the unfortunate experience of having to listen to Mr Gordon Mullings would concur. Of those 3866 voters 2750 'exercised their mandate' in the last election. If Gordon had the slightest charm or ability, he could speak to everyone of those voters personally in a matter of weeks to get his Theocratic platform elected. If I knew he was at my front door I'd let the dogs out.

In my part of the world, dogs don't get to vote.

Which situation, Paddy (the Magnificent Hound) regards as evidence of the shortcomings of the human kind.

Paddy waves a condescending paw.

And here is a picture of the Magnificent Hound enjoying his first encounter with snow (which was a hoot for all concerned):

https://plus.google.com/photos....eca8f4e

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,05:33   

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https://plus.google.com/photos.....eca8f4e

Great dog!

  
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,05:51   

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https://plus.google.com/photos.....eca8f4e

Great dog!

He is a cross between a Staffy terrier and a wolfhound (who knows how that happened: Staffies are very short and wolfhounds are very tall)

He is sitting beside me now, because he is a Good Dog. For some reason, he thinks I am the best thing since sliced bread. Well, I think he is, particularly when we go for a swim in the river.

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,07:53   

Irony/idiocy alert!  William J. Murray* has a new post up at UD: The Woeful State of Modern Debate.

Mr. Murray recently distinguished himself in debate at the Skeptical Zone by proving  (to his satisfaction) that the Problem of Evil could easily be solved if every innocent person in the universe who suffers was really an unfeeling automaton who wss incapable of experiencing anything at all, let alone pain, fear, death, disease, attacks by deranged religious believers, loss of loved ones and general agony.  

Apparently such a universe would exist so that real persons who wanted to experience pain, fear, etc could volunteer to be born in it and thus experience all the horrible things that even a half way decent God would normally protect them from.

Unfortunately, due probably to the Woeful State of Modern Debate, he was not able to satisfactorily explain where this universe was located or why the hell any sane person would want to live there and experience those emotions.

But his take home point seemed to be that anyone whose body is being eaten away by cancer asked for it because God is Good.

* Three time winner of the Joe G. Mung Award for Clear Thinking and Emotional Maturity.

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,09:09   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 20 2017,07:53)
Irony/idiocy alert!  William J. Murray* has a new post up at UD: The Woeful State of Modern Debate.

Mr. Murray recently distinguished himself in debate at the Skeptical Zone by proving  (to his satisfaction) that the Problem of Evil could easily be solved if every innocent person in the universe who suffers was really an unfeeling automaton who wss incapable of experiencing anything at all, let alone pain, fear, death, disease, attacks by deranged religious believers, loss of loved ones and general agony.  

Apparently such a universe would exist so that real persons who wanted to experience pain, fear, etc could volunteer to be born in it and thus experience all the horrible things that even a half way decent God would normally protect them from.

Unfortunately, due probably to the Woeful State of Modern Debate, he was not able to satisfactorily explain where this universe was located or why the hell any sane person would want to live there and experience those emotions.

But his take home point seemed to be that anyone whose body is being eaten away by cancer asked for it because God is Good.

* Three time winner of the Joe G. Mung Award for Clear Thinking and Emotional Maturity.

This OP is in response to comments posted on Gordo's agitprop thread. In that thread he demanded support for the assertion made by a commenter that a human being without a brain would have no consciousness and would not even be alive. So I agree with him. the state of modern debate, at least in his case, is woeful.

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,13:31   

Billy Murray's recommended punishment for doctors and women participating in an abortion:
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In that environment, I would set penalties for pre-birth infanticide at a term of 5 years probation for the doctor and loss of medical license, repeat offenses ending up in prison time, and a loss of reproductive rights for the mother.

Maybe forced sterilization? Where have I heard that approach before?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,14:17   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,20:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

 
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One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

And then we can put god on trial for his part in stillbirths, miscarriages, parasitic twinning, etc, right? Right?

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,14:54   

Quote (paragwinn @ Mar. 20 2017,14:17)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,20:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

   
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One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

And then we can put god on trial for his part in stillbirths, miscarriages, parasitic twinning, etc, right? Right?

The debate going on in Billy's thread on the woeful state of debate is definitely enlightening. It is fun to watch them dance around the idea of murder charges laid against women who have abortions, even though that is what the law would require if human rights, especially the right to life, were granted from the point of conception.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 20 2017,15:36   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 20 2017,12:54)
Quote (paragwinn @ Mar. 20 2017,14:17)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 19 2017,20:27)
Once abortion is once again criminalizes, Gordo has decided how we are to deal with women who had legal abortions.

   
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One step of the current process is that we are going to eventually need an international truth and reconciliation commission on the mass abortion civilisational kulturkampf, which should be associated with tribunals capable of censure and recommendation of loss of credibility for cases of gross ethical violations of the same natural laws that answered to the defendant’s claims to be acting under lawful orders at Nuremburg. But no, I see no reason to bring back the hangman; let our shame as a civilisation and let our shame on record as key enablers, promoters and practitioners be enough — though some may need to be held in protective custody on long term suicide watch. The judgement of history against our era will be grim. KF

And then we can put god on trial for his part in stillbirths, miscarriages, parasitic twinning, etc, right? Right?

The debate going on in Billy's thread on the woeful state of debate is definitely enlightening. It is fun to watch them dance around the idea of murder charges laid against women who have abortions, even though that is what the law would require if human rights, especially the right to life, were granted from the point of conception.

What a wonderful thread!

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1  Armand Jacks  March 18, 2017 at 11:54 am
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In debate after debate I’m sure we’ve all noticed that some people continually recycle the same statements over and over as if those statements represent something more than emotion-laden rhetoric that hasn’t already been factually and logically refuted or otherwise sufficiently responded to.


In this, I absolutely agree with your astute observation. If you will permit, here are a few of the more obvious examples of this:

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March of folly to ruin.

We are at the crumbling edge of a terrible cliff here.

Our civilisation is heading over a cliff

Can we turn back from this crumbling edge of a cliff before it is too late?

This entails that conscience-guided reason is pervaded by grand delusion and lands you in the infinite regress of Plato’s Cave worlds.

Then, you miss the readily demonstrated points that such is both self-falsifying through self-referential incoherence and has long been known to be utterly amoral, thus a gateway to nihilism.


The very next comment:
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2  kairosfocus  March 18, 2017 at 11:55 am
WJM, Strong words, but sobering ones providing food for thought (whether or not one agrees with every jot and tittle). We need to go back to first principles of right reason and to sound history, and build from that but too many have been conditioned not to respond to such. That’s a sad pass, but I fear it is exactly what those who have dominated key media and educational institutions have long aimed for. Again, all of this points to the need for reformation. I fear, we will need to go over the cliff for enough pain to be there that a critical mass for reform can have good effect. The cost will be horrific, perhaps fatal to our civilisation in its current relatively free form. Those who take liberty and turn it into licence will lose their freedom. That is what I can see ahead, and that hurts too deeply for words. KF

... in which Gordon demonstrates that
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...some people continually recycle the same statements over and over as if those statements represent something more than emotion-laden rhetoric that hasn’t already been factually and logically refuted or otherwise sufficiently responded to.

linky

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timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 21 2017,02:52   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 20 2017,13:31)
Billy Murray's recommended punishment for doctors and women participating in an abortion:
 
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In that environment, I would set penalties for pre-birth infanticide at a term of 5 years probation for the doctor and loss of medical license, repeat offenses ending up in prison time, and a loss of reproductive rights for the mother.

Maybe forced sterilization? Where have I heard that approach before?

So, let me understand WJM's thinking.

First he wants the law to force unwilling pregnant women to have babies.

Then later, he wants the law to force non-pregnant women who want to have babies not to have babies.

Sorry for the tortuous prose, but as far as I can understand what he says, it means that he wants a government to regulate women's biology.

Fact 1: WJM is a man and can't have babies. That might be a clue to the construction of what might loosely be called his thought.

As my women comrades used to say: "Get your laws off my body".

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 21 2017,13:34   

Quote (timothya @ Mar. 21 2017,00:52)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 20 2017,13:31)
Billy Murray's recommended punishment for doctors and women participating in an abortion:
 
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In that environment, I would set penalties for pre-birth infanticide at a term of 5 years probation for the doctor and loss of medical license, repeat offenses ending up in prison time, and a loss of reproductive rights for the mother.

Maybe forced sterilization? Where have I heard that approach before?

So, let me understand WJM's thinking.

First he wants the law to force unwilling pregnant women to have babies.

Then later, he wants the law to force non-pregnant women who want to have babies not to have babies.

Sorry for the tortuous prose, but as far as I can understand what he says, it means that he wants a government to regulate women's biology.

Fact 1: WJM is a man and can't have babies. That might be a clue to the construction of what might loosely be called his thought.

As my women comrades used to say: "Get your laws off my body".

It's all part of the push for less government interference in people's lives, Timothy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 21 2017,13:46   

Re "It's all part of the push for less government interference in people's lives, Timothy."

And their way of doing this is by setting a bad example?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 21 2017,14:52   

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Re "It's all part of the push for less government interference in people's lives, Timothy."

And their way of doing this is by setting a bad example?

They don't want big government telling you what to do.  Or at least telling your Y chromosome what to do.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2017,04:15   

Quote (Pilchard @ Mar. 20 2017,05:33)
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https://plus.google.com/photos.....eca8f4e

Great dog!

I'm getting a 404 error.

OMG, YOUR DOG HAS RUN AWAY!

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timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2017,12:26   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 23 2017,04:15)
Quote (Pilchard @ Mar. 20 2017,05:33)
 
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,11:16)
https://plus.google.com/photos.....eca8f4e

Great dog!

I'm getting a 404 error.

OMG, YOUR DOG HAS RUN AWAY!

He deleted the image himself, declining to participate in gratuitous Internet publicity. He is a Modest Dog, and wishes to maintain his usual modicum of polite reserve. He does, however, thank you for your concern.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2017,13:53   

Quote (timothya @ Mar. 23 2017,10:26)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 23 2017,04:15)
 
Quote (Pilchard @ Mar. 20 2017,05:33)
   
Quote (timothya @ Mar. 20 2017,11:16)
https://plus.google.com/photos.....eca8f4e

Great dog!

I'm getting a 404 error.

OMG, YOUR DOG HAS RUN AWAY!

He deleted the image himself, declining to participate in gratuitous Internet publicity. He is a Modest Dog, and wishes to maintain his usual modicum of polite reserve. He does, however, thank you for your concern.

Whereas our cat Mercedes (Sadie to her friends) insists on living under the radar and off the grid, as a bird-flip to Big Data.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2017,14:12   

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Armand JacksMarch 23, 2017 at 1:10 pm
Now that we have resolved that pro-life supporters do not believe that planning and killing an innocent defensless human being is a crime worthy of incarceration, let’s move on to other legal matters.

When abortion is made illegal, what charges should be brought against women who use the morning after pill? What charges should be brought against women who have an IUD? These only have one function. To kill a human life shortly after conception. The tricky part is that there is no practical way of proving that the death of any human being actually occurred, even though there is clear intent on the part of the woman to do this.

Attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder seem the most appropriate. But I am not sure.

What about a man who has unprotected sex with a woman who has an IUD? Obviously if he is unaware, there would be no charges laid. But what if he was aware that she had an IUD. Surely he is complicit in the possible murder of a human being and should be charged accordingly.

Oh the horror.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2017,15:04   

Armand Jacks at UD:
   
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A lot of work obviously went into this. Have you though about drafting this as a research paper and submitting it to a peer reviewed paper?

Presumably eating brains is a standard part of zombie peer review.

Edited by stevestory on Mar. 23 2017,18:55

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2017,19:44   

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Armand JacksMarch 23, 2017 at 1:10 pm
Now that we have resolved that pro-life supporters do not believe that planning and killing an innocent defensless human being is a crime worthy of incarceration, let’s move on to other legal matters.

When abortion is made illegal, what charges should be brought against women who use the morning after pill? What charges should be brought against women who have an IUD? These only have one function. To kill a human life shortly after conception. The tricky part is that there is no practical way of proving that the death of any human being actually occurred, even though there is clear intent on the part of the woman to do this.

Attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder seem the most appropriate. But I am not sure.

What about a man who has unprotected sex with a woman who has an IUD? Obviously if he is unaware, there would be no charges laid. But what if he was aware that she had an IUD. Surely he is complicit in the possible murder of a human being and should be charged accordingly.

Oh the horror.

This is why the word "epic" entered the hipster lexicon.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2017,13:02   

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kairosfocusMarch 24, 2017 at 9:04 am
AJ, the various hair-splitting rationalisations and timelines fall apart on one single test: human life has an intrinsic right to live from conception to natural death, on pain of letting loose the forces of chaos starting in our very souls. We are not God and must not get into the game of playing God and commodifying human life. One robbed of his or her life is robed of all else. KF

The end is nigh

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2017,23:27   

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rvb8March 23, 2017 at 10:30 pm
Denyse,

“find out that treatment drugs failed replication – but worse, replication is not usually risked.”

Your next few sentences are equally bizzar, but let’s just concentrate on this example of weird style.

Do you mean that, the treatment drugs failed to stop the ‘replication’ of cancer cells, and therefore didn’t work? I just can’t tell from your sentence structure.

I do have a question however. What is your answer for your friends awful predicament? Homeopathey? Acupuncture? Shen Balancing?

Saying beware of science is fine. Rubbishing it, and offering absolutely nothing at all to fill the gargantuan space, is irresponsable journalism in the extreme. Hence my attachement to professional journalists, and real scientists.
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2017,09:16   

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...irresponsable journalism in the extreme.


Hmmmm, Dense might be flattered by that remark. Deranged Catholic, whisperer of apartment dwelling cats & underemployed letters to the editor tea lady finds facts prove god wrong because she said so (by exclusion) might be closer to the truth.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2017,15:10   

I have one question. Is Barry being an absentee landlord? He has tolerated far mor dissenting opinion in the last few weeks than I have ever seen. KF and WJM appear to be working without a net.

OK, I have two questions. What happened to BatShitCrazy77?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2017,19:02   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 25 2017,16:10)
What happened to BatShitCrazy77?

meth OD?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2017,08:02   

He's still posting actively on his facebook page.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2017,09:44   

Quote (Nils Ruhr @ Mar. 26 2017,08:02)
He's still posting actively on his facebook page.

Maybe Barry was sick of replacing his scroll wheels.

  
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