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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2013,17:27   

Well of course! You don't think the Designer would stick a bunch of detrimental recessive alleles in the first draft of the design, so you?

  
Timothy McDougald



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2013,17:43   

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Ew.

Eeewww...I missed that secondary squick factor. Thanks...I think...

Ken Ham is at least honest about this. The Creation Museum informs its young patrons that Adam's children married their brothers and sisters.

Hurrah for the Universal Moral Code!

The fundies say that the genes in those days were more pure in those days so it was okay to interbreed. This purity is why they all lived for hundred of years.

But they also say that genomes and genes and stuff started decaying after the fall...who needs consistency when you have Jeebus.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2013,12:08   

1 month since the last comment....

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Principia



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2013,22:21   

Fascinating... Guts loses his religion.

I always had a feeling I was dealing with someone had not been honest with himself.

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2013,01:25   

All the "How could you turn your back on God?" pearl-clutching makes me want to throw up.

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 11 2013,11:31   

Is the "Telic Thoughts" blog drawing a blank?

The page comes back empty. The sole thing in the page source is an HTML comment saying "default".

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 11 2013,11:50   

Their last post was in may mocking Mark Perakh's death. now it's

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and the specific link to the perakh page is

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The requested URL /mark-perakh-dead/ was not found on this server.
Apache/2.2.22 Server at telicthoughts.com Port 80


so yeah it's probably as dead as PCID, which doesn't even come up in the first 5 pages of google anymore.

What a burgeoning, productive new branch of science!

   
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 11 2013,11:58   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 11 2013,06:31)
Is the "Telic Thoughts" blog drawing a blank?

The page comes back empty. The sole thing in the page source is an HTML comment saying "default".

Yes, I've been wondering if this blog has finally turned up its toes. Nelson Alonzo (guts) had a few terse exchanges with chunkdz a couple of months ago [eta - probably more than a couple], apparently because Nelson had come to accept evolutionary theory. He did claim that, while he wouldn't contribute further, he would keep the web site maintained. Trouble was there was nobody left to write posts apart from chunk, who managed to alienate the last few commenters with his despicable post on the death of Mark Perakh.

The ARN forum has collapsed too, BTW.

  
Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 11 2013,15:03   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 11 2013,11:31)
Is the "Telic Thoughts" blog drawing a blank?

The page comes back empty. The sole thing in the page source is an HTML comment saying "default".

Whatever happened, it must have occurred within the last week. On 4 November 2013, the Internet Archive preserved what looks like a perfectly normal instance of Telic Thoughts.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 11 2013,17:19   

I guess Telic Thoughts didn't get the telos they were shooting for :-p

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2014,18:29   

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didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2014,00:16   

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....z8z2AGw

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KevinB



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2014,05:51   

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....z8z2AGw

I don't think I ever visit, but I gather that a rather more appropriate choice would be

Somewhere on Youtube

  
AlexK



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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2016,11:40   

A funny thing happened the other day which sheds some light on the underpinnings of Telic Thoughts and its aftermath.

For some reason I was on Reddit (I hardly ever go there; I don't have an account) and discovered that clicking on the domain link next to a post gives you a list of all posts from that domain. Out of curiosity I tried uncommondescent.com and the first entry was a post about an upcoming "webinar" by Michael Behe. Well I couldn't resist; I created an account and added a comment suggesting two of Ken Miller's books that counter Behe's arguments.

Soon after, my comment was deleted along with a bogus rationale that I "insist[ed] that you not read what Behe says" (I didn't). Being puzzled after failing to reason with the moderator, I looked at his history and there was something familiar about the rants: the contradictory position of promoting ID while conceding it's not science, the overwrought microanalyses of minor points, etc. Then I noticed that the account frequently promotes shadowtolight.wordpress.com, which turns out to be Mike Gene's religious blog. That changed my suspicion to a certainty.

So after the death of Telic Thoughts, Gene became a very active religious blogger and moderator on a religious forum at reddit. His postings reveal a pretty hardcore right-wing religious stance along with a pretty hardcore contempt for atheists. Not that there's anything wrong with that per se (some atheists are a bit weird, IMO), but it does appear to be yet another confirmation that ID had been buttressed by religious motivations all along.

Oh, and Gene is an avid Trump supporter.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2016,14:40   

Naturally, I'm guessing, you made disparaging remarks about The Design Matrix on your way out the door....

:p

   
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2016,20:02   

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A funny thing happened the other day which sheds some light on the underpinnings of Telic Thoughts and its aftermath.

Poor Poor Mike Gene.

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Starbuck



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(Permalink) Posted: May 09 2016,20:28   

Mike is a long time critic of behe, and he's not a heavy handed mod, search for alan fox on his design matrix site, put up with that guy forever. Doesnt strike me as a trump supporter either and his shadow to light blog is just a botched attempt at turning the mirror back at atheists, color me unconvinced

  
Starbuck



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(Permalink) Posted: May 09 2016,21:32   

Im guessing the bloke u encountered goes by the name crude

  
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