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Armand JacksMarch 12, 2017 at 7:42 pm
WM, you talk about false equivalence but it is not. You are saying that you would use violence to save a child, because it is legal to do so. But would not do so if it was against the law. It is sad when the atheist is the only one here who would knowingly break the law to save that same child.
Since KF is so fond of calling abortion a holocaust, let’s use his favourite analogy. Knowing what you know now, if you were transported to Nazi occupied Poland, would you use violence, if necessary, to stop a trainload of Jewish children from being taken to Auschwitz? Using KF’s logic, exterminating Jewish children in Nazi occupied lands and conducting abortions in 2016 are analogous. In fact, he said that the abortions are a far worse holocaust, but I will ignore that for the moment. They were both conducted under the full protection of the law and they are both the amoral murder of innocent human beings.
So, I will ask the same question. If you would be willing to break the law, including the use of sabotage and violence, to save a trainload of children being legally taken for extermination, why would you not be willing to break the law, including the use of sabotage and violence, to save other children from being legally aborted?
And before you start screaming “false equivalence” do you have such low imagination that you could not perceive of any direct actions that would prevent doctors from being able to perform abortions? I can think of many.
But let’s be honest here. Most people do not take that kind of action because they do not perceive an early stage abortion as the equivalent of killing a young child. And they shouldn’t. Claiming that they are equivalent and calling it a holocaust just makes your position less tenable, not stronger.
Don’t get me wrong. I would much prefer that there were no abortions. But I am a realist. Even if you made it illegal and jailed doctors who performed them, they would still occur, simply because you have done nothing to affect demand. If you are serious about reducing the abortion rate, expand sex education, make contraceptives more available, remove the stigma around unwanted pregnancy and increase the support for women who find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy. But many of the people who vehemently oppose abortion under all circumstances also oppose contraceptives, comprehensive sex education and removing the stigma around unwanted pregnancies.
Pindi and AJ keep hammering KF, If you really think abortion is equivalent to murdering children, how can you stand by and watch it happen?
All FK, WJM, and others can do is yammer thousands of words about how they can't do anything, it's a false equivalence, blah blah.