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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2017,11:22   

And here I thought "design" (when used as a noun) meant something like "inter-relationship of parts in a thing or in a system". That doesn't sound like a mechanism to me.

  
Lethean



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2017,11:40   

Quote (Woodbine @ Jan. 15 2017,21:08)
Joe-TARD

   
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ID isn’t a mechanistic claim but design is a mechanism.


Takes me back to the good ol' days of  ice ≠ water.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2017,12:05   

Does that include snow? It certainly produces a messy sidewalk when it melts.

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2017,16:40   

Quote (Lethean @ Jan. 16 2017,11:40)
Quote (Woodbine @ Jan. 15 2017,21:08)
Joe-TARD

     
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ID isn’t a mechanistic claim but design is a mechanism.


Takes me back to the good ol' days of  ice ≠ water.

And Frequency = Wavelength.

That man has a serious issue with what the equal sign signifies. He must have missed that day at home-schooling.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2017,09:13   

So he doesn't know what "1/x" means? Or maybe his teacher wrote it as x^(-1), or maybe x**(-1) ?

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2017,17:14   

FINALLY got pav to bust out the hiv denial

here goes

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PaV February 3, 2017 at 8:59 pm
AhmedKiaan,

Ahmed: remember when I asked you to write an OP explaining just how HIV brings about AIDS you demured?

Let’s assume that HIV is the cause of AIDS.

Those who propose all of this say that there are about 24 or 25 separate diseases that are caused by HIV. (BTW, have you ever heard of any other virus doing anything like this at all?)

Let’s task the case of South Africa. The president there would not allow anti-retrovirals to be used. What should we expect IF the HIV virus does in fact bring about AIDS?

Well, as HIV spreads–and we are told that HIV is an ‘epidemic’ in all of Africa, with South Africa being no exception–then HIV will infect more and more people, who will then die of these 25 or so deadly diseases. Right?

Further, with time you would expect the population to decrease given this ‘epidemic’ and its deadly outcomes. Right?

But what happened in South Africa?

The population GREW. That’s funny, isn’t it? And what about the number of cases let’s say of pneuomonia, tubercolosis, and so forth?

While the number of persons having HIV steadily increased, the number of those having the diseases associated with HIV stayed about the same from year to year. How is that possible?

Well, here’s how it’s possible. If HIV is no more than a carrier virus, causing no harm to the person having it, then the MORE you TEST for HIV, the more you will find it. Why? Because it is a harmless virus that gets passed on from one person to the next WITHOUT anyone knowing it.

Now, here’s the “definition” of AIDS: you have one of these 25 diseases,
AND, you are detected as having HIV.

Thus, the more you test, the more HIV virus you will find. Given that the level of people contacting or developing these 25 other diseases STAYS the SAME, then you will have roughly the same number of people dying each year of these same 25 diseases, BUT, the number of people diagnosed as having AIDS will continue to increase each year.

This is what you will find there. And, if you look for World Health Organization statistics, you’ll find that they’re simply MADE UP. Yes, that’s right: MADE UP.

This is all about political correctness and Big Pharma, along, of course, with crony capitalism.

These are facts. They need to be refuted before I can accept the HIV-AIDS connection.

(You realize, of course, that the way in which AIDS is “defined” makes it impossible to disprove the connection. Why? Because they are connected from the start simply through assumption. It’s a lot like how evolutionists first assume evolution took place, and then use the evolution on display to “prove” evolutionary theory. If you don’t know already, you can’t pull yourself up by your bootstraps.)

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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2017,23:11   

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 03 2017,15:14)
FINALLY got pav to bust out the hiv denial

here goes

Wow. Just ... wow. The crank is strong in this one.

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
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Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2017,23:46   

Hmm. Wanted to check that out, but my machine's anti-virus protection thinks the Skeptical Zone is infected with something called "URL:mal". Unfortunate. Seems to be very new, as in "sometime within the past several hours".

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2017,06:10   

Quote (Cubist @ Feb. 04 2017,05:46)
Hmm. Wanted to check that out, but my machine's anti-virus protection thinks the Skeptical Zone is infected with something called "URL:mal". Unfortunate. Seems to be very new, as in "sometime within the past several hours".

Don't worry it's just a carrier virus.

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2017,13:04   

Yep, I can't get in under my configuration - Avast blocks it.

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BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2017,15:48   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 04 2017,14:04)
Yep, I can't get in under my configuration - Avast blocks it.

Are you willing to share the details of your operating system and browser so I can see if this is an actual problem on the site?

Thanks!

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2017,20:14   

Quote (paragwinn @ Feb. 04 2017,07:11)
Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 03 2017,15:14)
FINALLY got pav to bust out the hiv denial

here goes

Wow. Just ... wow. The crank is strong in this one.

Well he does say that he can't pull himself up with his own bootstraps.
He will never be able to overcome his own inability to process a complete logical thought based on logic and actual facts, never mind make an inspired mental leap. Just look at his elementary school math level. It seems he has a very severe learning disabilty if I were to be generous but he really is just plain stupid and ignorant. When he responds to an OP pointing out HIV attacks the the immune system he reponds that amyl nitrate does the same.
Is that some sort of gay Freudian slip?
In any case Pav truly has to be one of the stupidest people that has ever posted online.
And Mung is very close behind him with his "I've read a shit ton of philosophy but still can't think" schtick.

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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2017,03:11   

Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 04 2017,21:48)
 
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 04 2017,14:04)
Yep, I can't get in under my configuration - Avast blocks it.

Are you willing to share the details of your operating system and browser so I can see if this is an actual problem on the site?

Thanks!

Sure - Windows 10 and Firefox (happens in Internet Explorer too). Happens immediately on front page load - "threat [http://]95.142.159.2/wp/ infection URL:Mal".

[eta - this is the only site it occurs on, so far. I might have assumed it was something on my side but for the same issue reported above. May still be a fault with Avast, of course, if that is the antivirus program in the other instance]

Edited by Soapy Sam on Feb. 05 2017,12:11

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BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2017,05:04   

Just ran a check using Sucuri plugin that reports no malware found.

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2017,07:04   

Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 05 2017,11:04)
Just ran a check using Sucuri plugin that reports no malware found.

You might try access through Avast (free download)? They do suggest I can report as false positive. It may well be, and the Sucuri result increases confidence.

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SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G

BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2017,13:43   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 05 2017,08:04)
Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 05 2017,11:04)
Just ran a check using Sucuri plugin that reports no malware found.

You might try access through Avast (free download)? They do suggest I can report as false positive. It may well be, and the Sucuri result increases confidence.

virustotal and urlvoid also come up clean.  I'll try Avast later today.

Thanks for the help.

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2017,10:01   

Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 05 2017,14:43)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 05 2017,08:04)
Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 05 2017,11:04)
Just ran a check using Sucuri plugin that reports no malware found.

You might try access through Avast (free download)? They do suggest I can report as false positive. It may well be, and the Sucuri result increases confidence.

virustotal and urlvoid also come up clean.  I'll try Avast later today.

Thanks for the help.

I raised the issue with Avast technical support.  They investigated and found no problems with The Skeptical Zone.  Avast should stop reporting it as a malware site.

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2017,10:28   

Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 06 2017,18:01)
Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 05 2017,14:43)
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 05 2017,08:04)
 
Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 05 2017,11:04)
Just ran a check using Sucuri plugin that reports no malware found.

You might try access through Avast (free download)? They do suggest I can report as false positive. It may well be, and the Sucuri result increases confidence.

virustotal and urlvoid also come up clean.  I'll try Avast later today.

Thanks for the help.

I raised the issue with Avast technical support.  They investigated and found no problems with The Skeptical Zone.  Avast should stop reporting it as a malware site.

I had to the the same with Norton for a little used site once.

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Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2017,11:41   

Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 06 2017,16:01)
Quote (Patrick @ Feb. 05 2017,14:43)
 
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 05 2017,08:04)
 
Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 05 2017,11:04)
Just ran a check using Sucuri plugin that reports no malware found.

You might try access through Avast (free download)? They do suggest I can report as false positive. It may well be, and the Sucuri result increases confidence.

virustotal and urlvoid also come up clean.  I'll try Avast later today.

Thanks for the help.

I raised the issue with Avast technical support.  They investigated and found no problems with The Skeptical Zone.  Avast should stop reporting it as a malware site.

Great, thanks for that, I can get in now. Unfortunately it's become infested with clueless dweebs who can't even understand a basic concept like selection. I'll get onto Avast ...

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SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G

BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

  
Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2017,11:56   

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Unfortunately it's become infested with clueless dweebs who can't even understand a basic concept like selection.


Maybe that was what Avast wanted to say, but didn't know how.

Glen Davidson

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2017,12:24   

Avast, ye mateys!

(Somebody had to say that)

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2017,16:09   

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I voted for Trump purely because I agreed with virtually all of his platform.  Usually when I encounter someone who didn’t vote for Trump, I immediately notice an obvious emotional quality to their perspective – they hate or are disgusted by the guy personally, but can’t even tell me what his policy positions are.  They immediately assume I am racist, misogynistic, islamophobic, etc.

I wonder if it’s possible to have a rational discussion about Trump and his policies and actions since being elected with anyone who voted against him?
William J Murry: "derp derp derp"

   
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2017,16:11   

WJM

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I’m pro-torture

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2017,16:26   

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William J. Murray Post author February 8, 2017 at 10:09 pm
graham2:
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WJM: You said you are pro-torture. Can you confirm that ?

Yeah. I’m in favor of using some torture techniques to get information where adn when it is warranted.


Wow

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2017,16:36   

I just read that whole thread. Even phoodoo took him to task. William J. Murray is the dictionary definition of Complete Idiot.

   
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2017,16:53   


  
clamboy



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2017,00:22   

William J Murray's posting privileges were suspended when he posted slander based on libel. Now he's got 'em back, and posts what amounts to one heaping pile o' Guano.

Patrick is right that TSZ is broken, when such dreck is considered appropriate fodder for discussion.

Oh, and Mung? I really hope you get paid by the post. Otherwise...well, it keeps you off the streets, I guess. And, I hope, out of classrooms.

  
Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2017,02:55   

I've said it before,and it's worth repeating: Absent active moderation, any internet forum will eventually degenerate into a troll-infested wasteland. TSZ started out okay, but these days, it would be very easy to mistake TSZ for a troll-infested wasteland…

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2017,04:42   

They spend a lot of time there discussing their moderation. That's not a sign things are running smoothly.

   
Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2017,06:02   

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 09 2017,04:42)
They spend a lot of time there discussing their moderation. That's not a sign things are running smoothly.

Well, given that TSZ's moderation is so friggin' passive that in practical terms, it may as well not exist…

  
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