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Posted: Jan. 06 2017,16:20

I don't normally read BA77's contributions at UD, but this one caught my eye. Here is what BA said, quoting a paper in phys.org:

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Floating proteins appear to find their targets quickly as well. “This was a surprise,” he said. “It’s counterintuitive, because one would think collisions between a protein and other molecules on DNA would slow it down. But the system is so dynamic (and so well designed?), it doesn’t appear to be an issue.”

Here is what the original paper said:

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Floating proteins appear to find their targets quickly as well. "This was a surprise," he said. "It's counterintuitive, because one would think collisions between a protein and other molecules on DNA would slow it down. But the system is so dynamic, it doesn't appear to be an issue.

Where I come from, that is called dishonest.

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Posted: Jan. 06 2017,16:23

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 06 2017,14:09)

No wonder that Dionisio tries to claim that comments at UD were qualitatively better than those at TSZ: UD hadn't a stellar year 2016:

Number of comments

2005: 8,400
2006: 23,000
2007: 22,400
2008: 23,100
2009: 41,100
2010: 24,800
2011: 41,400
2012: 28,400
2013: 42,000
2014: 53,700
2015: 53,100
2016: 28,000

TSZ has certainly gathered more comments last year, quite probably even more than 53,700 - the number of comments at UD in 2014 - its best year so far...

Wasn't 2014 the year of the amnesty? Now that Barry has banned all opposition again, they must rely on Dionisio, Batshitcrazy77 and Gordon Mullings to keep up the counts.

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Posted: Jan. 06 2017,16:45

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 06 2017,22:23)

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 06 2017,14:09)

No wonder that Dionisio tries to claim that comments at UD were qualitatively better than those at TSZ: UD hadn't a stellar year 2016:

Number of comments

2005: 8,400
2006: 23,000
2007: 22,400
2008: 23,100
2009: 41,100
2010: 24,800
2011: 41,400
2012: 28,400
2013: 42,000
2014: 53,700
2015: 53,100
2016: 28,000

TSZ has certainly gathered more comments last year, quite probably even more than 53,700 - the number of comments at UD in 2014 - its best year so far...

Wasn't 2014 the year of the amnesty? Now that Barry has banned all opposition again, they must rely on Dionisio, Batshitcrazy77 and Gordon Mullings to keep up the counts.

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Posted: Jan. 06 2017,18:19

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 06 2017,14:09)

No wonder that Dionisio tries to claim that comments at UD were qualitatively better than those at TSZ: UD hadn't a stellar year 2016:

Number of comments

2005: 8,400
2006: 23,000
2007: 22,400
2008: 23,100
2009: 41,100
2010: 24,800
2011: 41,400
2012: 28,400
2013: 42,000
2014: 53,700
2015: 53,100
2016: 28,000

TSZ has certainly gathered more comments last year, quite probably even more than 53,700 - the number of comments at UD in 2014 - its best year so far...

Care to write a post on that at TSZ?

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Posted: Jan. 07 2017,01:07

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 07 2017,00:19)

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 06 2017,14:09)

No wonder that Dionisio tries to claim that comments at UD were qualitatively better than those at TSZ: UD hadn't a stellar year 2016:

Number of comments

2005: 8,400
2006: 23,000
2007: 22,400
2008: 23,100
2009: 41,100
2010: 24,800
2011: 41,400
2012: 28,400
2013: 42,000
2014: 53,700
2015: 53,100
2016: 28,000

TSZ has certainly gathered more comments last year, quite probably even more than 53,700 - the number of comments at UD in 2014 - its best year so far...

Care to write a post on that at TSZ?

I'm working on it...

stevestory

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Posted: Jan. 07 2017,01:24

i wonder what those numbers look like if you subtract Dionosio

timothya

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Posted: Jan. 07 2017,02:38

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 07 2017,01:24)

i wonder what those numbers look like if you subtract Dionosio :p

Subtracting zero from any number leaves you with the original number. Of course, that is a comment on syntactics rather than one on semantics.

I acknowledge your point that his endless additions to that UD thread appear to be intended to inflate the overall traffic through that execrable site.

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Posted: Jan. 07 2017,03:26

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rvb8January 6, 2017 at 9:04 pm
TWSYF,

there is a new category of atheist, and that is the anti-theist. Those atheists who are tired of the two thousand year dominance of theism, and actively work to promote the life of living without a God. I am not one, but I am an atheist.

We have worked so hard to loosen the grip of religion, that the prospect of going back to Wahabist Arabia, or Puritan America/Geneva, is not at all appealing. Indeed I hope you aren’t yearning for a return to that medievalism?

I think it is necessary to be a materialist if you are an atheist, and as atheists have no mythical, magical, creation myths, we must necessarily adopt a materialist answer; hence evolution.

‘Scientism’, fits within this definition, I am a proud scientismist, if such a term exists. And your ‘Darwinist’ badge also fits; not sure about the multi-verse, but as it is just as plausible as God, why not?

Jesus, rvb8, there are so many problems with this. Ugh. linky

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Posted: Jan. 07 2017,05:15

Anti-theists are a new category of atheists? Hm. Has rvb8 read any Voltaire?

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Posted: Jan. 07 2017,13:57

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 06 2017,00:25)

Q' makes sense. dQ makes sense. What the fuck is d'Q?

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Edited by Lou FCD on Jan. 07 2017,15:09

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Posted: Jan. 07 2017,16:49

So d'Q = de Lancie?

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Posted: Jan. 08 2017,07:47

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rvb8January 7, 2017 at 9:47 pm
Kairos,

well said! We probably strongly disagree on this subject, (I believe Global Warming to be the single gravest problem facing humanity), but your call to step back and take a breath, is measured and sensible.

AD,

that Christ was coming soon is one of the major reasons I lost my faith around the age of twelve. It was predicted first by the living apostles, who got it wrong, and they knew Christ. After them every few years to today it has been predicted; it never materialises, so as a sceptic forgive me if I come off as ‘smug’, that is not my intention.

Your beliefs also are things which I would not ridicule, although expecting the imminent return of the Lord, because ‘end time’ tribulations appear to be happening, is quite absurd.

I wouldn’t mind being judged by the Lord, because at least it would allow me the opportunity to get several things off my chest!

that sound you just heard was BornAgain choking on a handful of cheetos

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Posted: Jan. 08 2017,13:25

Did anybody notice Mung tweaking Barry's nose in that thread, which starts with a cartoon disparaging global warming?

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1 Mung January 6, 2017 at 6:35 pm

Thanks Barry!

Reminds me of all those “Jesus is coming soon” books I read growing up.

And here I thought he was a complete idiot.

Should've said INcomplete IDiot.

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Posted: Jan. 08 2017,13:27

Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 08 2017,13:25)

Did anybody notice Mung tweaking Barry's nose in that thread, which starts with a cartoon disparaging global warming?

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1 Mung January 6, 2017 at 6:35 pm

Thanks Barry!

Reminds me of all those “Jesus is coming soon” books I read growing up.

And here I thought he was a complete idiot.

Should've said INcomplete IDiot.

And, the best part, it has completely derailed that thread.

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Posted: Jan. 08 2017,14:34

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 07 2017,07:07)

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 07 2017,00:19)

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 06 2017,14:09)

No wonder that Dionisio tries to claim that comments at UD were qualitatively better than those at TSZ: UD hadn't a stellar year 2016:

Number of comments

2005: 8,400
2006: 23,000
2007: 22,400
2008: 23,100
2009: 41,100
2010: 24,800
2011: 41,400
2012: 28,400
2013: 42,000
2014: 53,700
2015: 53,100
2016: 28,000

TSZ has certainly gathered more comments last year, quite probably even more than 53,700 - the number of comments at UD in 2014 - its best year so far...

Care to write a post on that at TSZ?

I'm working on it...

... and done:

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....i....in-2016

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Posted: Jan. 08 2017,15:11

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 08 2017,13:27)

Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 08 2017,13:25)

Did anybody notice Mung tweaking Barry's nose in that thread, which starts with a cartoon disparaging global warming?

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1 Mung January 6, 2017 at 6:35 pm

Thanks Barry!

Reminds me of all those “Jesus is coming soon” books I read growing up.

And here I thought he was a complete idiot.

Should've said INcomplete IDiot.

And, the best part, it has completely derailed that thread.

I remember reading that comment but can't find it now. Has the thread been disappeared?

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Posted: Jan. 08 2017,15:36

Quote (timothya @ Jan. 08 2017,15:11)

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 08 2017,13:27)

Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 08 2017,13:25)

Did anybody notice Mung tweaking Barry's nose in that thread, which starts with a cartoon disparaging global warming?

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1 Mung January 6, 2017 at 6:35 pm

Thanks Barry!

Reminds me of all those “Jesus is coming soon” books I read growing up.

And here I thought he was a complete idiot.

Should've said INcomplete IDiot.

And, the best part, it has completely derailed that thread.

I remember reading that comment but can't find it now. Has the thread been disappeared?

It's in the Friday Chucle OP.

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Posted: Jan. 08 2017,17:37

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 08 2017,14:34)

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 07 2017,07:07)

Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 07 2017,00:19)

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 06 2017,14:09)

No wonder that Dionisio tries to claim that comments at UD were qualitatively better than those at TSZ: UD hadn't a stellar year 2016:

Number of comments

2005: 8,400
2006: 23,000
2007: 22,400
2008: 23,100
2009: 41,100
2010: 24,800
2011: 41,400
2012: 28,400
2013: 42,000
2014: 53,700
2015: 53,100
2016: 28,000

TSZ has certainly gathered more comments last year, quite probably even more than 53,700 - the number of comments at UD in 2014 - its best year so far...

Care to write a post on that at TSZ?

I'm working on it...

... and done:

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....i....in-2016

Great work - may thanks!

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Posted: Jan. 09 2017,12:58

Dense and Dreary's advice to girls:

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Finish school, qualify in a trade where there are real jobs (even if you must travel), have kids with a life partner who cares about them the way you do, belong to a church or some other institution where you meet people who care about the meaning of life, [band stay well away from anyone who is seriously into addiction, crime, and/or risky relationships[/b].

Because that is what Jesus would do. Except, of course, when he was hanging out with criminals and prostitutes.

Words to live by

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Posted: Jan. 09 2017,13:15

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and stay well away from anyone who is seriously into addiction, crime, and/or risky relationships

with that attitude she could be any of a million stuck-up baptist women i was surrounded by in the South.

Edited by stevestory on Jan. 09 2017,14:16

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Posted: Jan. 09 2017,14:49

Quote (DiEb @ Jan. 06 2017,14:09)

No wonder that Dionisio tries to claim that comments at UD were qualitatively better than those at TSZ: UD hadn't a stellar year 2016:

Number of comments

2005: 8,400
2006: 23,000
2007: 22,400
2008: 23,100
2009: 41,100
2010: 24,800
2011: 41,400
2012: 28,400
2013: 42,000
2014: 53,700
2015: 53,100
2016: 28,000

TSZ has certainly gathered more comments last year, quite probably even more than 53,700 - the number of comments at UD in 2014 - its best year so far...

Is Dionisio still chirping?

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Posted: Jan. 10 2017,03:24

News citing from the New York Times on (protect your irony meters)

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OMICS International is a leader in the growing business of academic publication fraud. It has created scores of “journals” that mimic the look and feel of traditional scholarly publications, but without the integrity. This year the Federal Trade Commission formally charged OMICS with “deceiving academics and researchers about the nature of its publications and hiding publication fees ranging from hundreds to thousands of dollars.”

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OMICS s also in the less well-known business of what might be called conference fraud, which is what led to the call from John. Both schemes exploit a fundamental weakness of modern higher education: Academics need to publish in order to advance professionally, get better jobs or secure tenure. Even within the halls of respectable academia, the difference between legitimate and fake publications and conferences is far blurrier than scholars would like to admit.

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OMICS is on the far end of the “definitely fake” spectrum. Real academic conferences evaluate potential participants by subjecting proposed papers and presentations to a rigorous peer-review process…

Hmmm. Why does Carey think, given massive peer review scandals, that having peer review would solve much? It’s characteristic of dinosaur media like the Times to not see what everyone else sees: Things are far worse than that. If they weren’t, this would have been a way bigger scandal way sooner.

As if there hasn't been anything like ID fake journals and fake conferences.

link:
http://www.uncommondescent.com/peer-re....n-fraud

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Posted: Jan. 10 2017,14:35

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 09 2017,12:58)

Dense and Dreary's advice to girls:

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Finish school, qualify in a trade where there are real jobs (even if you must travel), have kids with a life partner who cares about them the way you do, belong to a church or some other institution where you meet people who care about the meaning of life, [band stay well away from anyone who is seriously into addiction, crime, and/or risky relationships[/b].

Because that is what Jesus would do. Except, of course, when he was hanging out with criminals and prostitutes.

Words to live by

I wonder what trade Dense qualified in. Certainly not writing.

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Posted: Jan. 10 2017,19:37

That would leave reading and arithmetic...

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Posted: Jan. 10 2017,20:59

Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 10 2017,19:37)

That would leave reading and arithmetic...

Her (fish) reeling and rhythmic ticks seem well established.

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Posted: Jan. 10 2017,22:14

BA77:

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When I was looking at water specifically years ago, I was quite amazed by the many brilliant design features that water revealed.

The mind boggles.

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Posted: Jan. 11 2017,01:19

I wonder which version of water we have. Like, is this Water 1.0? Water 3.1? Water 95?

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Posted: Jan. 11 2017,02:00

Quote (clamboy @ Jan. 10 2017,20:59)

Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 10 2017,19:37)

That would leave reading and arithmetic...

Her (fish) reeling and rhythmic ticks seem well established.

It's certainly not public speaking.

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Posted: Jan. 11 2017,04:34

Oh god she's even more of a dingbat than I imagined!

I'd never heard her speak before. She's the lady who's supposed to have 2 minutes to talk to the city council, and she's been going on for 10 minutes about poor Mr. Fluffles, and everybody's quietly thinking goddammit lady shuuuuuuut uuuuuuuup.

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Posted: Jan. 11 2017,09:39

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 11 2017,12:34)

Oh god she's even more of a dingbat than I imagined!

I'd never heard her speak before. She's the lady who's supposed to have 2 minutes to talk to the city council, and she's been going on for 10 minutes about poor Mr. Fluffles, and everybody's quietly thinking goddammit lady shuuuuuuut uuuuuuuup.

She's barely cognitive and she's about the the best communicator UD has. The best thing about that link ( she's had 3000 odd views ...really that many?) was yt suggesting the equally tortuous ramblings of David Berlinski. They all seem to be on the same mind numbing drug.

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