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Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,08:59    Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 06 2011,08:38) Since they banned most all their critics, Telic Thoughts is like watching amateur tennis. They just can't seem to get a decent rally going. Last post over a day ago. chunkdz: January 4, 2011 @ 1:52 pm kornbelt888: January 4, 2011 @ 2:33 pm Guts: January 4, 2011 @ 4:18 pm johnnyb: January 4, 2011 @ 4:34 pm Bilbo: January 4, 2011 @ 8:01 pm Daniel Smith: January 4, 2011 @ 8:21 pm Bradford: January 4, 2011 @ 10:46 pm nullasalus: January 5, 2011 @ 12:47 am ID guy: January 5, 2011 @ 8:35 am ID guy: January 5, 2011 @ 8:36 am ID guy: January 5, 2011 @ 8:40 am ID guy: January 5, 2011 @ 8:54 am Without arguing against 'evolutionism', it seems Telic Thoughts has nothing to say. It's rather sad — like a kid who has no one to play with because he chased off all his friends. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch, IMHO. -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,10:27    Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 06 2011,08:38) Since they banned most all their critics, Telic Thoughts is like watching amateur tennis. They just can't seem to get a decent rally going. {snip for minimalism} Without arguing against 'evolutionism', it seems Telic Thoughts has nothing to say. Oh, I'm pretty sure they are quite content with just talking into the toilet and listening to the echo. -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,11:30    ID guy has the last post on most of the threads atm. Now that there are no evolutionists messing up the environment over at TT they can get on with the science of ID.... -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:16    Zachriel:     Quote Since they banned most all their critics, Telic Thoughts is like watching amateur tennis. They just can't seem to get a decent rally going. Last post over a day ago. Kinda like a self-imposed boycott! Has Oleg been banned too, finally? All we need is Nick Matzke and KC to hold off and the implosion of tard will be complete. Now soi-disant philosopher, Nullasalus, is enjoying his new status as a UD contributor, we may even be deprived of his thoughtful contributions at TT. There seems an inevitability with ID sites, Overwhelming Evidence, ISCID, ARN.org. Is there a pattern forming? ETA a comma ETA Belated meilleurs voeux pour la nouvelle année, surtout la santé, tout le monde!

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:36    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 06 2011,11:30) ID guy has the last post on most of the threads atm. Now that there are no evolutionists messing up the environment over at TT they can get on with the science of ID.... They caught on to our evil plan to keep them busy to prevent ID research.  We're done for now - hide the ebola and the matches! -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,18:30    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Jan. 06 2011,11:36) Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 06 2011,11:30) ID guy has the last post on most of the threads atm. Now that there are no evolutionists messing up the environment over at TT they can get on with the science of ID.... They caught on to our evil plan to keep them busy to prevent ID research.  We're done for now - hide the ebola and the matches! Do you mean "we're done-for, now", or "we're done, for now?"  :-) -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:32    Quote (Alan Fox @ Jan. 06 2011,13:16) Zachriel:     Quote Since they banned most all their critics, Telic Thoughts is like watching amateur tennis. They just can't seem to get a decent rally going. Last post over a day ago. Kinda like a self-imposed boycott! Has Oleg been banned too, finally? All we need is Nick Matzke and KC to hold off and the implosion of tard will be complete. Now soi-disant philosopher, Nullasalus, is enjoying his new status as a UD contributor, we may even be deprived of his thoughtful contributions at TT. There seems an inevitability with ID sites, Overwhelming Evidence, ISCID, ARN.org. Is there a pattern forming? ETA a comma ETA Belated meilleurs voeux pour la nouvelle année, surtout la santé, tout le monde! Happy New Year, Alan. I'm simply bored with TT. Their most frequent commentator is Joe Gallien. And nullasalus you can now get on UD, fortified with Vincent Torley. So why even bother? The title of the latest TT thread looks pretty ominous. Teh decline effect. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2011,03:25    Oleg:       Quote I'm simply bored with TT. But look here!         Quote Take water for instance. what is water – H20 – three molecules [sic]. And yet even in the Bible H20 is treated as if it is extremely important. We look for life by looking for water. Something I did not know for a long time that water is all over our own solar system. The rings of Saturn are predominantly water ice. And Enceladus, the moon of Saturn, is continuously spewing water geysers. There is an ocean of water under the surface of Europa, a moon of Jupiter. There is water ice on Mars. Maybe everyone already knows this – it was amazing to me when I learned it. But the point about water I guess would be in response to those who would say regarding my Scrabble example, "There is nothing viable about the word AND." So what is so great about three molecules. Even without you to prompt them, Oleg, the deep intellectual thoughts continue apace!   ETA link

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2011,04:58    Quote (Alan Fox @ Jan. 06 2011,19:16) Zachriel:     Quote Since they banned most all their critics, Telic Thoughts is like watching amateur tennis. They just can't seem to get a decent rally going. Last post over a day ago. Kinda like a self-imposed boycott! Has Oleg been banned too, finally? All we need is Nick Matzke and KC to hold off and the implosion of tard will be complete. Now soi-disant philosopher, Nullasalus, is enjoying his new status as a UD contributor, we may even be deprived of his thoughtful contributions at TT. There seems an inevitability with ID sites, Overwhelming Evidence, ISCID, ARN.org. Is there a pattern forming? ETA a comma ETA Belated meilleurs voeux pour la nouvelle année, surtout la santé, tout le monde! Salut Alan, tout nos voeux pour cette année 2011, et c'est cool de te voir de retour :) -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2011,05:51    JT: Quote Just imagine if this had been a tea-partier that had done it. It would open the floodgates to violent revolution for someone to get the ball rolling like this. Good thing the guy was crazy – that way anyone planning the same thing will think, "I'll probably just be branded as crazy, too." That could have been the intention of whatever organization contrived this little drama for the sake of national security. Nip all this potential thinking in the bud of "We the people…" and it being every citizen's obligation to uphold the constitution. Oh well a point of view, anyway. Not saying its mine necessarily. So it's taken about a week for the conspiracy theories to kick off. Quote Not saying its mine necessarily. And I'm not saying Glen Beck murdered a girl, but... -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2011,06:17    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 16 2011,05:51) So it's taken about a week for the conspiracy theories to kick off. It's always wise to let the Kool-Aid breathe for awhile before imbibing. -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2011,09:10    Quote ...c'est cool de te voir de retour :) Salut, SD! Mais quoi de neuf? Pas grand-chose, je crois!

Badger3k Posts: 861 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 16 2011,14:07    Quote (Alan Fox @ Jan. 16 2011,03:25) Oleg:         Quote I'm simply bored with TT. But look here!           Quote Take water for instance. what is water – H20 – three molecules [sic]. And yet even in the Bible H20 is treated as if it is extremely important. We look for life by looking for water. Something I did not know for a long time that water is all over our own solar system. The rings of Saturn are predominantly water ice. And Enceladus, the moon of Saturn, is continuously spewing water geysers. There is an ocean of water under the surface of Europa, a moon of Jupiter. There is water ice on Mars. Maybe everyone already knows this – it was amazing to me when I learned it. But the point about water I guess would be in response to those who would say regarding my Scrabble example, "There is nothing viable about the word AND." So what is so great about three molecules. Even without you to prompt them, Oleg, the deep intellectual thoughts continue apace!  :D ETA link My bolding.  It's not like, oh, we'd die without water or anything. ETA - the rest is worse, but I just noticed the "three molecules" - H20 is one molecule, three atoms.  Unless he's referring to some new Triwater - maybe like the Triforce?  Did Jack Handy write this? -------------- "Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 19 2011,05:48    Daniel Smith needs to take a long look at himself in the mirror I think. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2011,08:20    Bradford is a pompous ass: Quote Telic Thoughts is a mecca for free thinkers not wishing to be bound by the tedious norms of political correctness which afflict America today. Yep. All three of them. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2011,09:52    Bradford keeps using that phrase 'free thinkers'.  I do not think it means what he thinks it means. (/Inigo Montoya) Betcha he's one of those folks who likes to use Marxist, Communist, Stalinist, Maoist, Socialist, and Fascist as if they're interchangeable, too. (eyeroll) Whatta maroon. The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2011,13:05    Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 06 2011,03:24) In case anyone is still following  silent banninations at UD, aiguy, who was tying the usual suspect in knots in this thread  (his last comment) reports elsewhere being put in perpetual moderation.             Quote I posted a couple times over at uncommondescent, but apparently offended somebody and now I'm on banished to interminable "hold for moderation" purgatory. aiguy not only tied them up in knots but then proceeded to skewer the lot of em. chunkdz:         Quote The fact that the code of life is globally optimal (given plausible pre-biotic conditions), along with the fact that it hasn't changed significantly in 4 billion years (it's hard to improve upon a global optimum) tells us that the designer of life either got really lucky right off the bat or had learned how to design an optimal code. Evolution is not in the business of making a globally optimal anything. I think you are looking at the problem as a designer rather than a forensic investigator. 4 billion years into the program we are looking for traces and clues, not hard examples of the designer in action. Or as Mike Gene says, "the faint echoes of teleology". Yet only the other day  Gordon was arguing that cows could not have evolved. So hardly "the faint echoes of teleology". This wiki page on Aurochs says the designer must have been fiddling round in the plains with them not very long ago at all. Like Gordon says       Quote Others might want to point out that the body plan involved is well beyond the FSCO/I threshold, so there is a serious question whether we have a mechanism per Darwinist evolutionary theory, that would substantiate that claim, much less observed evidence that would make it conclusive as “fact.” Or is it still "just a cow"? It's all so confusing! That's the thing about ID. You can study at one school but beware should you transfer just before the exams! Same answers written down, but you fail because you changed schools! It's a shame that there's no central venue where they can all make their case, support with evidence and then all agree to get behind the party that makes the best case and follow that evidence to where it leads. Oh, er. Um. Yes. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2011,11:49    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Feb. 07 2011,13:05) Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 06 2011,03:24) In case anyone is still following  silent banninations at UD, aiguy, who was tying the usual suspect in knots in this thread  (his last comment) reports elsewhere being put in perpetual moderation.             Quote I posted a couple times over at uncommondescent, but apparently offended somebody and now I'm on banished to interminable "hold for moderation" purgatory. aiguy not only tied them up in knots but then proceeded to skewer the lot of em. chunkdz:           Quote The fact that the code of life is globally optimal (given plausible pre-biotic conditions), along with the fact that it hasn't changed significantly in 4 billion years (it's hard to improve upon a global optimum) tells us that the designer of life either got really lucky right off the bat or had learned how to design an optimal code. Evolution is not in the business of making a globally optimal anything. I think you are looking at the problem as a designer rather than a forensic investigator. 4 billion years into the program we are looking for traces and clues, not hard examples of the designer in action. Or as Mike Gene says, "the faint echoes of teleology". Yet only the other day  Gordon was arguing that cows could not have evolved. So hardly "the faint echoes of teleology". This wiki page on Aurochs says the designer must have been fiddling round in the plains with them not very long ago at all. Like Gordon says         Quote Others might want to point out that the body plan involved is well beyond the FSCO/I threshold, so there is a serious question whether we have a mechanism per Darwinist evolutionary theory, that would substantiate that claim, much less observed evidence that would make it conclusive as “fact.” Or is it still "just a cow"? It's all so confusing! That's the thing about ID. You can study at one school but beware should you transfer just before the exams! Same answers written down, but you fail because you changed schools! It's a shame that there's no central venue where they can all make their case, support with evidence and then all agree to get behind the party that makes the best case and follow that evidence to where it leads. Oh, er. Um. Yes. I was part of that thread with aiguy and he is as clueless as you are. And IDists have made our case and supported it with evidence. OTOH your position doesn't have anything. If it did ID wouldn't even exist. Strange how that works... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2011,12:49    Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 08 2011,11:49)  I was part of that thread with aiguy and he is as clueless as you are. Nah, you were 99% ignored and speaking to an empty room. On the odd point aiguy picked you up on you were eviscerated for all to see.   Quote And IDists have made our case and supported it with evidence. Yes yes, in books, blogs and forums. But not in the only place it really matters.   Quote OTOH your position doesn't have anything. If it did ID wouldn't even exist. Strange how that works... In fact those who protest against reality for religious reasons would continue to protest even if we had a DVD of the origin of life and it's subsequent evolution. If my "position has nothing" then one wonders why it's so successful (99%+ of working biologists support "Darwinism") and if your position has better evidence then why is it not the dominant paradigm? It's funny, but there are many religious people, universities and even countries that research "Darwinism". One would think they would be on your side, but they are not, they are laughing at you. Why don't you wander down to the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and ask Dembski how his global flood "research" (i.e. reading the bible) is going? That's the future for ID, backwater bible belt universities. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2011,12:53    Oh, and let's make sure everybody knows how Dembski slapped you down Joseph, and the next time your repeat your "targetted search" bullshit I'll be sure to link to this image again -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2011,12:56    Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 08 2011,11:49) I was part of that thread with aiguy and he is as clueless as you are. And it's vastly amusing how everybody on that thread was keen, nay, eager to speak to aiguy but nobody gave a shit about your comments and you hardly had any interaction with anybody *but* aiguy on that thread. And that was just a few sentences to gut your "argument" for all to see. Face it Joe, you are the best possible advocate that ID could have. Put you on the stand and the case will be done and dusted. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2011,15:46    Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 08 2011,11:49) Quote And IDists have made our case and supported it with evidence. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA... ...(breath)... HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Man that's funny Joey! Here's a clue ID-Joe-joe: when something comes along and bites you on the ass, that is evidence that something bit you on the ass, not evidence that biting your ass has some purpose. Quote OTOH your position doesn't have anything. If it did ID wouldn't even exist. Strange how that works... (snicker) Oh Joe...I hope you do stand-up; your jokes are darn funny! The fact is, "ID" was strong before evolutionary theory was formalized. Now - and you are a prime example of this - it is but a fringe basket into which wingnuts have placed most of their social control aspiration eggs. It has no credibility or power in science and none in technology, to say nothing of economics, finance, business, or heck...even farming. It offers nothing of value to anyone. OTOH, evolutionary theory, along with other areas of actual science, will continue to be the accepted basis for actual explanations about the natural world and will continue to marginalize what little foot stomping you clowns make. So, good luck with that stand-up career there Joey boi...it's about the only thing you apparently have going for you! LOL! -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,12:59    Sal makes a mindless argument: Quote    It's not reasonable to assume that minute quantities of amino acids could ever fuel the origin of life.    Larry Moraun [sic] Quote Err, not even LARGE quantities of amino acids. Take a dead and decaying Elephant. Anyone care to specualte whether novel life will emerge out the massive quantities of homo-chiral amino acids in a decaying elephant? So why the belief that a few amno acids can spawn life if a large amount cannot? Answer (to the question of such dogged belief): the priority of the mindless OOL paradigm! Larry Moran's argument is about the chemistry of linking amino acids. amino 1 + amino 2  equilibrium arrows water plus dipeptide dilute soup, lots of water, by leChatelier's principle equilibrium shifts left to individual amino acids. concentrated amino acids, equilibrium shifts right to form peptide bonds.   High enough concentrations in the ocean are implausible. Nor is a uniform concentration and temperature expected (equilibrium).  Nor are prebiotic conditions to be even remotely similar to a dead elephant, hence chemical reactions would be different. -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,17:06    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Feb. 10 2011,12:59) Sal makes a mindless argument:   Quote    It's not reasonable to assume that minute quantities of amino acids could ever fuel the origin of life.    Larry Moraun [sic]   Quote Err, not even LARGE quantities of amino acids. Take a dead and decaying Elephant. Anyone care to specualte whether novel life will emerge out the massive quantities of homo-chiral amino acids in a decaying elephant? So why the belief that a few amno acids can spawn life if a large amount cannot? Answer (to the question of such dogged belief): the priority of the mindless OOL paradigm! Larry Moran's argument is about the chemistry of linking amino acids. amino 1 + amino 2  equilibrium arrows water plus dipeptide dilute soup, lots of water, by leChatelier's principle equilibrium shifts left to individual amino acids. concentrated amino acids, equilibrium shifts right to form peptide bonds.   High enough concentrations in the ocean are implausible. Nor is a uniform concentration and temperature expected (equilibrium).  Nor are prebiotic conditions to be even remotely similar to a dead elephant, hence chemical reactions would be different. I wonder if the precursors to a new type of life have ever started to form, only to be devoured by some passing bacterium? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Sol3a1 Posts: 110 Joined: July 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,17:45    Quote (Texas Teach @ Feb. 10 2011,17:06) I wonder if the precursors to a new type of life have ever started to form, only to be devoured by some passing bacterium? Actually, that would be my contention on (one of the many reasons) why we don't see "new life" forming The very base material of "new life" would be "lunch" for so many things Another is the amount of time it would take to go from the pre-biotic, self replicating cell like o-chem bag of chemicals to actual primitive life forms Any other things that could stop new life, besides being food and time to do so, that can be used?

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,20:51    Quote "at the present day such matter would be instantly devoured or absorbed, which would not have been the case before living creatures were formed." Who said that? -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2011,21:42    Quote Any other things that could stop new life, besides being food and time to do so, that can be used? The chemicals that would be most apt to do that are already in use by extant organisms? Henry

rossum Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,03:50    Quote (Sol3a1 @ Feb. 10 2011,17:45) Any other things that could stop new life, besides being food and time to do so, that can be used? Oxygen.  We no longer have a reducing atmosphere. rossum -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,10:22    Quote Any other things that could stop new life, besides being food and time to do so, that can be used? Teh Designer © is having a longer-than-usual poopy time? -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2011,11:12    Quote (rossum @ Feb. 11 2011,02:50) Quote (Sol3a1 @ Feb. 10 2011,17:45) Any other things that could stop new life, besides being food and time to do so, that can be used? Oxygen.  We no longer have a reducing atmosphere. rossum Is that why some people have trouble losing weight?

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