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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,07:47   

Tard motherlode:
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group....t=UTF-8

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,08:16   

Gordo responds to my posts:
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PS: I see further sneers and smears, as I glanced at back-links. As well as attempted outing and belittling dimunitives. If the folks at Anti Evo want my actual views on origins, they know I have laid them out at length in the always linked from my handle here at UD. And, from here on at IOSE, this in ways that I think will help break the Lewontinian spell. It would also be interesting to hear them explain how I am LEADING here at IOSE with a case of origins science done right. It would be interesting for them to explain how my discussion of the explanation of H-R diagrams of stellar clusters with main sequence turnoffs and the like are to be translated into their favourite — and irresponsible — conflation of the design inference with creationism and debates over Bishop Ussher’s timeline. And no, I do not need to wade into a malarial fever swamp to defend myself, I have spoken for record here, and that is enough to raise serious questions on their willfully neglected duties of care.


Gordo, a few things.

I don't want your actual view on origins. I know it. God did it. You say so yourself in the post I just quoted.

IOSE is just a few web pages that nobody is interested in. You are "leading" a group of zero. Nobody cares, nobody is interested in your "cell". It's not "origin science done right" as it's not science at all. It's just your opinion on actual scientists work.

There is no Lewontinian spell to be broken. Miracles are not science, it's as simple as that.

Your "discussion" of stellar clusters is meaningless as you cannot even say how old the universe is because "were you there"?

And sure, you don't have to come here to defend yourself. And we all know why, you are unable to argue your case on the merits and you are unable to admit error. That does not work with actual scientists (of whom I am not one however), especially those who know better then you on your specialist subject (whatever that actually is).

So, Gordo, what has your IOSE actually *achieved*? What has your thousands of words about "origins" *achieved*?

I'll tell you, absolutely nothing.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,08:33   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 11 2012,07:41)
And what do you make of this?  
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Suppression of the concept that an extracosmic designer of vast power and intelligence is the source then becomes worldview level censorship

There's no suppression of the idea of extracosmic designer Gordo - Prometheus opened this last weekend.  Just go to the closest movie theater. Likely not your idea of God, but the concept itself is certainly not being censored in anyway shape or form.

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,10:13   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 11 2012,05:29)
Gordon is watching!
 
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F/N 3: In looking briefly at the Anti-Evo thread, I see where there is a continued insistence on conflation of design thought with biblical creationism — cf sparc quoting and approving Katerina98 here on accusing Tyler of “lying for Jesus” and KE here in attempted rebuttal to Sal C by trying to turn about a comment he made on common errors of evolutionary materialism promoters into remarks on creationism. This is incorrect, and as it has been repeatedly corrected on warrant, it is a disregard for duties of care to truth and fairness reflective of precisely the sort of nihilistic ruthless factionalism that I point to above. This gives examples of and underscores the concerns I have pointed to J above. Concerns that trace as far back as Plato.


Hey, Gordo, are you *sure* you want to climb into bed with Sal? Really? I guess you are both YEC so it makes sense....

IDiot.

Hi, Mr KF,
I'm flattered you noticed my comment. Just a reminder:

Mr Tyler's claim was that the paper made a design inference, and he quoted a couple of sentences to bolster this claim.

In fact, however, the paper did not contain any design inference, and the sentences immediately after Mr Tyler's quote made it obvious that the authors had a strictly evolutionary = scientific point of view.

Please consider participating in a discussion in the thread opened for you.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,10:34   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 11 2012,10:13)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 11 2012,05:29)
Gordon is watching!
   
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F/N 3: In looking briefly at the Anti-Evo thread, I see where there is a continued insistence on conflation of design thought with biblical creationism — cf sparc quoting and approving Katerina98 here on accusing Tyler of “lying for Jesus” and KE here in attempted rebuttal to Sal C by trying to turn about a comment he made on common errors of evolutionary materialism promoters into remarks on creationism. This is incorrect, and as it has been repeatedly corrected on warrant, it is a disregard for duties of care to truth and fairness reflective of precisely the sort of nihilistic ruthless factionalism that I point to above. This gives examples of and underscores the concerns I have pointed to J above. Concerns that trace as far back as Plato.


Hey, Gordo, are you *sure* you want to climb into bed with Sal? Really? I guess you are both YEC so it makes sense....

IDiot.

Hi, Mr KF,
I'm flattered you noticed my comment. Just a reminder:

Mr Tyler's claim was that the paper made a design inference, and he quoted a couple of sentences to bolster this claim.

In fact, however, the paper did not contain any design inference, and the sentences immediately after Mr Tyler's quote made it obvious that the authors had a strictly evolutionary = scientific point of view.

Please consider participating in a discussion in the thread opened for you.

Can he bring Mr. Leathers?

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,10:44   

Quote (Jim_Wynne @ June 11 2012,10:34)
Can he bring Mr. Leathers?

Of course, we could start with "Show and Tell".

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,12:11   

Sal:
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Can you confine limit, confine, and measure macro evolution? No. By that standard, even assuming naturalism, evolutionism is hard pressed to be called science. That’s why in science’s pecking order, evolutionism lurks somewhere near the bottom, far closer to the pseudoscience than to physics.


Ugh.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,12:40   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 11 2012,12:11)
Sal:
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Can you confine limit, confine, and measure macro evolution? No. By that standard, even assuming naturalism, evolutionism is hard pressed to be called science. That’s why in science’s pecking order, evolutionism lurks somewhere near the bottom, far closer to the pseudoscience than to physics.


Ugh.

So, Sal, you can confine, limit, and measure information?

So, Sal, you can confine, limit, and measure complexity?

So, Sal, you can confine, limit, and measure the designer?

I'm all ears...

BTW: I have a blog post that explains this misconception, but I don't expect Sal to get it... not when he has a vested interest in not getting it.

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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,12:43   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 11 2012,13:11)
Sal:
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Can you confine limit, confine, and measure macro evolution? No. By that standard, even assuming naturalism, evolutionism is hard pressed to be called science. That’s why in science’s pecking order, evolutionism lurks somewhere near the bottom, far closer to the pseudoscience than to physics.


Ugh.

Nice tu quoque example.  I note that he didn't actually answer the question posed.

  
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,13:07   

Slimy Sal    
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Evolutionary biology, in contrast with physics and chemistry, is a historical science [sic]… Laws and experiments are inappropriate…
….
Instead one constructs a … narrative
Ernst Mayer

I had to see it with my own eyes and logged in at UcD with the intent of responding. I wrote the following, but didn't bother to post it anyway, I presume Slimy Sal reads AtBC, what else can he do?

Here's what i wrote:

"Sal, it must be something like ten years since we had a discussion about YEC-ism at the ARN ID forum.
I log in here just to tell you I am horrified that a person with pretences of being a scientist is able to make a sinister quote mine like you just did, and not even able to spell Ernst Mayr’s name correctly. Heck, even a layman here in remote Norway that knows very little about Mayr knows it!

Shame on you, when did you see one of those despicable lying Darwinist atheists stooping down to quote mining in a way like a self confessed Christian such as you do?

I don’t care what you or your company at UD think or do about this comment; I have no intention of logging in at this (i.e. UcD) crapsite ever again anyway."

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,14:32   

Quote (Quack @ June 11 2012,13:07)
Slimy Sal    
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Evolutionary biology, in contrast with physics and chemistry, is a historical science [sic]… Laws and experiments are inappropriate…
….
Instead one constructs a … narrative
Ernst Mayer

I had to see it with my own eyes and logged in at UcD with the intent of responding. I wrote the following, but didn't bother to post it anyway, I presume Slimy Sal reads AtBC, what else can he do?

Here's what i wrote:

"Sal, it must be something like ten years since we had a discussion about YEC-ism at the ARN ID forum.
I log in here just to tell you I am horrified that a person with pretences of being a scientist is able to make a sinister quote mine like you just did, and not even able to spell Ernst Mayr’s name correctly. Heck, even a layman here in remote Norway that knows very little about Mayr knows it!

Shame on you, when did you see one of those despicable lying Darwinist atheists stooping down to quote mining in a way like a self confessed Christian such as you do?

I don’t care what you or your company at UD think or do about this comment; I have no intention of logging in at this (i.e. UcD) crapsite ever again anyway."

This deserves a post of the year I think.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,17:49   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 11 2012,10:44)
Quote (Jim_Wynne @ June 11 2012,10:34)
Can he bring Mr. Leathers?

Of course, we could start with "Show and Tell".

Ah, hell no!  He'd spend a minute showing, and 6 hours telling.  I can hear the P.p.p.p.s (ad infinitum) already.  Yet somehow, I hear him droning like Ben Stein.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,18:01   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 11 2012,05:47)
Tard motherlode:
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group......t=UTF-8

The compressed density of all that tard will create a tard black hole.

Well, obviously it will.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2012,22:59   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 11 2012,07:47)
Tard motherlode:
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group......t=UTF-8

To extract the really strong TARD one has to add "porn" or "sex" to the search queue.

Then you find GEMs (sic!) like this:
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Colleagues:

For weeks and weeks, I was simply unable to get to effective writing on this unit, on matters close to my heart for 30+ years. The poisonous atmosphere that views Bible-believing Christian faith with the suspicion more properly devoted to IslamIST terrorists, has been a particular challenge.

It is hard to write into a poisonous atmosphere, but I believe we must.


And, it has not helped that several points that I believe must be seriously addressed are inevitably controversial. I invite reasoned comments, not towards resolving what has not been resolved for decades or centuries, but to help see if we can find a good balance that is respectful and moves us forwards.

Likewise, I think that discipleship has been a major gap in our systematic theologising.

Over the past week by God's grace I have had a sense of release to work on this unit, thanks for the prayers.

I have now initially completed it, cf below and attached.

I invite your suggestions and counsel.

And I believe with this unit now complete on an initial basis -- after almost a year and a half of steady slogging, we are over the hump, and have the outlines of an example course from the AACCS in a way that shows how such a course can be pursued.

I more and more believe we need this, and that we have to equip a critical mass of Christians in our region to a new level of instruction, if we are simply to stand in the face of the tidal waves that are upon us.

But as the very focus of this unit underscores, much more than that is at stake, we must be going out as equipped disciples in our region and beyond, in the power of he upwelling and overflowing Spirit, ministering repentance, renewal, revival and reformation!

In our region and beyond, with particular attention to our potential to field 8,000 missionaries; where we are especially suited to the 10/40 window and to the lands of the North that are rapidly moving into a post-Christian age. And the spiritual earthquakes connected to that process are sending tidal wave surges of dechristianisation into our region.

(Just for starters, do we know what this generation of teachers in our schools are teaching our children, especially at secondary level? Just maybe, there is a reason why so many youngsters are turning away from the gospel and the church across the teen years! And, are we equipped to help them answer the sort of issues and challenges they are meeting in history, social studies, sex education, science, current affairs, debate competitions, news and views programming, Facebook, and more? Just yesterday evening, I had to deal with an assignment for my son that is so loaded ideologically, that it is astonishing. And the teacher in question is thinking in terms of "right" answers that are not, probably does not even realise the many worldview level and theoretical issues that lurk behind the apparently simple questions and obvious answers that are being taught to our kids. Much less the consequences.)

I believe it is time for us to come together and see if and how we can pull something serious together.

That is going to need some serious decisions, including institutional support, technical support and funding, in the context of agreeing that we have to create a strategic regional initiative, or face the withering of the church in the Caribbean, to everyone's detriment. Also, we have to face the challenge of growing up into our potential in the global mission of the church. That includes helping to call the most troubled regions in the world to repentance and renewal, to peace and god-blessed progress.

On these thoughts, too, I invite comment.

Grace to all

Gordon

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,00:21   

Just to record it, DeNews is once again having trouble with numbers.
Her headline reads:
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Pit of Bones human evolution date is out by 200,000 years?

...while the first sentence is:
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Not six mya but only 4 mya, different experts claim.

Commenter Bilbo I has a bit of fun:
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This is at least the third time someone has messed up the numbers in a big way. I suspect that it’s the same person doing it. My suggestion is that before they post anything involving numbers that they have one of the other moderators double-check it for them. It could avoid some embarrassment.

UD link

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,00:54   

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This is at least the third time someone has messed up the numbers in a big way. I suspect that it’s the same person doing it. My suggestion is that before they post anything involving numbers >ever again< that they have one of the other moderators double-check it for them >talk them out of it<. It could avoid some embarrassment.


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Edited.  Because.

Edited by noncarborundum on June 12 2012,00:56

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,02:02   

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group....144

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...Here, we can see a case from a regional blog, triggered by the push towards homosexualisation of marriage...


emphasis mine

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,04:21   

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It has indeed been argued that genetic programing makes some people homosexual and others heterosexual, and many have been led to accept it, never mind the subsequent back-tracking proponents of genetic theories have had to make. A read-through of just the introductory summary of the just linked, will suffice to show that instead: genes are the foundation for our ability to act in human ways, and form habits (including sexual ones), but there is little reason to believe that genetic programming determines sexual orientations and habits. For, as minded creatures, we are not merely plants growing as the seed and the soil and sun determine. Our genes make us sexual -- male and female, but do not determine our sexual habits.


Perhaps you'd care to discuss this KF? For example, why would people make the choice to be gay knowing that it would cause them to be harassed in their community?

It's as absurd as saying that you chose your race KF.

No wonder you won't leave your ivory castle, you know you can't defend the indefensible.

So what should we do with teh gay KF? Lock them up? Beat them until they change their mind?

You are generating alot of hate KF, alot....

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,05:06   

Sal Cordova reveals that painstaking research done by fellows of the Discovery Institute disproves evilutionist Steven Matheson: Intronic RNAs are not junk, they do have a function after all. Thank you, ID scientists!

Oh wait - who are the authors of that paper actually?

Steve Matheson in 2008:  
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... design proponents would have left the entire bloody genome unstudied while giving lectures and writing books on the impossibility of evolution. ...


Edit: Horrible grammar fixed - more or less.

Edited by Kattarina98 on June 12 2012,05:07

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,06:41   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 12 2012,10:21)
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It has indeed been argued that genetic programing makes some people homosexual and others heterosexual, and many have been led to accept it, never mind the subsequent back-tracking proponents of genetic theories have had to make. A read-through of just the introductory summary of the just linked, will suffice to show that instead: genes are the foundation for our ability to act in human ways, and form habits (including sexual ones), but there is little reason to believe that genetic programming determines sexual orientations and habits. For, as minded creatures, we are not merely plants growing as the seed and the soil and sun determine. Our genes make us sexual -- male and female, but do not determine our sexual habits.


Perhaps you'd care to discuss this KF? For example, why would people make the choice to be gay knowing that it would cause them to be harassed in their community?

It's as absurd as saying that you chose your race KF.

No wonder you won't leave your ivory castle, you know you can't defend the indefensible.

So what should we do with teh gay KF? Lock them up? Beat them until they change their mind?

You are generating alot of hate KF, alot....

KF finds the gays scary and wants you to feel scared, and as we all know, fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

But I guess that's what KF is counting on.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,06:45   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 11 2012,16:16)
Gordo responds to my posts:
 
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PS: I see further sneers and smears, as I glanced at back-links. As well as attempted outing and belittling dimunitives. If the folks at Anti Evo want my actual views on origins, they know I have laid them out at length in the always linked from my handle here at UD. And, from here on at IOSE, this in ways that I think will help break the Lewontinian spell. It would also be interesting to hear them explain how I am LEADING here at IOSE with a case of origins science done right. It would be interesting for them to explain how my discussion of the explanation of H-R diagrams of stellar clusters with main sequence turnoffs and the like are to be translated into their favourite — and irresponsible — conflation of the design inference with creationism and debates over Bishop Ussher’s timeline. And no, I do not need to wade into a malarial fever swamp to defend myself, I have spoken for record here, and that is enough to raise serious questions on their willfully neglected duties of care.


Gordo, a few things.

I don't want your actual view on origins. I know it. God did it. You say so yourself in the post I just quoted.

IOSE is just a few web pages that nobody is interested in. You are "leading" a group of zero. Nobody cares, nobody is interested in your "cell". It's not "origin science done right" as it's not science at all. It's just your opinion on actual scientists work.

There is no Lewontinian spell to be broken. Miracles are not science, it's as simple as that.

Your "discussion" of stellar clusters is meaningless as you cannot even say how old the universe is because "were you there"?

And sure, you don't have to come here to defend yourself. And we all know why, you are unable to argue your case on the merits and you are unable to admit error. That does not work with actual scientists (of whom I am not one however), especially those who know better then you on your specialist subject (whatever that actually is).

So, Gordo, what has your IOSE actually *achieved*? What has your thousands of words about "origins" *achieved*?

I'll tell you, absolutely nothing.

A picture paints a thousand words



The dimunitive Gordo hard at work belittling himself.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,06:55   

Quote (BillB @ June 12 2012,14:41)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 12 2012,10:21)
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It has indeed been argued that genetic programing makes some people homosexual and others heterosexual, and many have been led to accept it, never mind the subsequent back-tracking proponents of genetic theories have had to make. A read-through of just the introductory summary of the just linked, will suffice to show that instead: genes are the foundation for our ability to act in human ways, and form habits (including sexual ones), but there is little reason to believe that genetic programming determines sexual orientations and habits. For, as minded creatures, we are not merely plants growing as the seed and the soil and sun determine. Our genes make us sexual -- male and female, but do not determine our sexual habits.


Perhaps you'd care to discuss this KF? For example, why would people make the choice to be gay knowing that it would cause them to be harassed in their community?

It's as absurd as saying that you chose your race KF.

No wonder you won't leave your ivory castle, you know you can't defend the indefensible.

So what should we do with teh gay KF? Lock them up? Beat them until they change their mind?

You are generating alot of hate KF, alot....

KF finds the gays scary and wants you to feel scared, and as we all know, fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

But I guess that's what KF is counting on.

Does Gordo get this?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,07:25   

While it's a generous offer to invite gordo here, it's never going to be accepted by the chicken-shit monster of Montserrat.

For Record: gordon elliott mullings of Manjack Heights, Montserrat is akin to a vampire. He cloisters himself in a coffin of fearful darkness and depravity and won't come out into the light because a deadly stake of reason would be driven through his insane, ignorant, sanctimonious, willfully dishonest sermons by people with intelligence and rational character.

When gordo's not exposing his theocratic fundamentalist fangs and slobbering his self-righteous venomous drool on his own dead websites he cowardly dwells in a moldy graveyard (UD) that is a sanctuary for a small mob of mouth-foaming zombies who, like gordo, will eagerly stoop to any lie or other despicable act in their attempts to push their furtive dominionist agenda (under the guise of "ID") and to try to suck the lifeblood out of reason, freedom, rationality, and the scientific pursuit of knowledge.

Oh, and gordo's wife must be the most unsatisfied woman on Earth.

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,07:58   

Gil
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Dennis Prager mentioned this yesterday on his radio show. He commented about how when people glom on to a theory and use it to explain everything (e.g., class struggle for the Marxist, evolution for the Darwinist), you know you’re being taken for a ride.

At least ID proponents don’t claim that ID explains everything. They’re perfectly willing to concede that Darwinian mechanisms can account for some things. But for Darwinists, evolution explains everything, and they will concede nothing to design, no matter how obvious the evidence for it, or how ludicrous their storytelling becomes.


Somebody ask, what things?

http://www.uncommondescent.com/human-e....-426313

If evolution can only break things, what is he talking about?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,11:20   

Steve Matheson resigns over allegations of sexual involvement with a student.  Not surprisingly,
Sal kicks off the Schadenfreude-fest at UD.

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I hope for Steve’s sake, the allegations are false and that he’ll return to debating the ID and UD community. He has a fine intellect, and he was the source of many lively scientific exchanges.


Such sincerity!  It's touching really.

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,11:54   

Quote (NormOlsen @ June 12 2012,11:20)
Steve Matheson resigns over allegations of sexual involvement with a student.  Not surprisingly,
Sal kicks off the Schadenfreude-fest at UD.

 
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I hope for Steve’s sake, the allegations are false and that he’ll return to debating the ID and UD community. He has a fine intellect, and he was the source of many lively scientific exchanges.


Such sincerity!  It's touching really.

Slimy Sal must have an archive full of records about the persons who have pwned him in online discussions, bearing a grudge for years. As soon as he imagines he has found a weakness he pounces.

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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,12:49   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 12 2012,12:54)
Quote (NormOlsen @ June 12 2012,11:20)
Steve Matheson resigns over allegations of sexual involvement with a student.  Not surprisingly,
Sal kicks off the Schadenfreude-fest at UD.

   
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I hope for Steve’s sake, the allegations are false and that he’ll return to debating the ID and UD community. He has a fine intellect, and he was the source of many lively scientific exchanges.


Such sincerity!  It's touching really.

Slimy Sal must have an archive full of records about the persons who have pwned him in online discussions, bearing a grudge for years. As soon as he imagines he has found a weakness he pounces.

That reminded me to check and, sure enough, he still hasn't answered Jerad's question about how to test for a designer who operates without any constraints.  (No link to UD, on purpose.)

  
Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,16:01   

Quote (NormOlsen @ June 12 2012,11:20)
Steve Matheson resigns over allegations of sexual involvement with a student.  Not surprisingly,
Sal kicks off the Schadenfreude-fest at UD.

   
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I hope for Steve’s sake, the allegations are false and that he’ll return to debating the ID and UD community. He has a fine intellect, and he was the source of many lively scientific exchanges.


Such sincerity!  It's touching really.


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By the way, this blog was posted also under “academic freedom”.

Calvin College sent out this letter to the students and media outlets to uphold students rights from abuse of office by professors.

What I’ve failed to mentions is that the letter was to help uphold students rights, and there has been a violation of students rights and hence academic freedom.

I feel very sorry for Steve, but there is a victim in this affair whose name is not known and whose academic freedom has been infringed on. Calvin published the story and made it widely available in the hope of furthering academic freedom.

Calvin felt that reporting of this story would help protect students rights, and I stand with them in that regard.


I'm going to puke now.

If you really want to read it at UD: http://tinyurl.com/7hqskzq....7hqskzq

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NormOlsen



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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,16:43   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ June 12 2012,16:01)
 
Quote (NormOlsen @ June 12 2012,11:20)
Steve Matheson resigns over allegations of sexual involvement with a student.  Not surprisingly,
Sal kicks off the Schadenfreude-fest at UD.

       
Quote
I hope for Steve’s sake, the allegations are false and that he’ll return to debating the ID and UD community. He has a fine intellect, and he was the source of many lively scientific exchanges.


Such sincerity!  It's touching really.


   
Quote
By the way, this blog was posted also under “academic freedom”.

Calvin College sent out this letter to the students and media outlets to uphold students rights from abuse of office by professors.

What I’ve failed to mentions is that the letter was to help uphold students rights, and there has been a violation of students rights and hence academic freedom.

I feel very sorry for Steve, but there is a victim in this affair whose name is not known and whose academic freedom has been infringed on. Calvin published the story and made it widely available in the hope of furthering academic freedom.

Calvin felt that reporting of this story would help protect students rights, and I stand with them in that regard.


I'm going to puke now.

If you really want to read it at UD: http://tinyurl.com/7hqskzq....7hqskzq

"Think of the children!"
What's really amazing is that Sal thinks anyone will buy his rationalizations.  Even UD regulars ForJah and Starbuck are calling him a turd for this one.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2012,17:53   

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Over the past week by God's grace I have had a sense of release to work on this unit, thanks for the prayers.

I really wonder if Mr Leathers (or maybe, Mrs Hand Lotion) was involved.   On second thought, I really don't...I need to bleach my brain....

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