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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2009,11:27    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Jan. 07 2009,10:34) Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 07 2009,00:37) (tries to hit gangsta poses) HA HA THIS IS YOU: Hardly. My bandana's more of a fuschia color.

Steviepinhead Posts: 532 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2009,16:04    Quote (C.J.O'Brien @ Dec. 12 2008,14:09)       Quote I'm reading Anathem, the new opus from Neal Stephenson, the author of Cryptonomicon and the "System of the World" books.  It's amazing how many issues that are au currant in our little science-creationist skirmishes that NS manages to render into lively fiction... Yes, good stuff. I've been reading it, too... almost done. What did you think, Stevie? (I'm assuming you've finished it by now) I finally finished Anathem, the latest from Neal Stephenson. That makes it sound like it was a hard slog, which is far from the case.  As always, reading a Stephenson book is quite enjoyable and inevitably thought-provoking.  Finishing a Stephenson book can be less so, however.  I have been less than enthralled with the endings of Cryptonomicon and the "Baroque Cycle" trilogy, for example.  After all kinds of fascinating and intricate build-up, the grand climaxes have, for me, fallen a little flat. Such "realistic" endings may be more modern, less contrived, or whatever.  But, while I don't mind realistic damage, loss, cost, consequence -- however it might be worded -- in my fiction, and don't require the author to contort the incident, characters, and motivations simply to arrive at a predicatable "happy ending," I also don't necessarily look to find humdrum, everyday, back-to-earth, life-doesn't-always-work-out finales, either... In short, Anathem had a more emotionally-satisfying ending than some of Stephenson's previous extravaganzas.  <Possible Spoiler Alert!>  Of course, to achieve this, Stephenson had to carefully weave his principal players through a batch of polycosmic timelines.  In any number of those "other" cosmic timelines, the fate of his principal players was, undoubtably, less satisfying to the captivated reader... I certainly enjoyed Stephenson's play with words in his two invented languages of Orth and Fluccish, as well.  Not quite as challenging as Tolkien's thoroughly-worked out imaginary languages, but fun to grapple with over the course of the volume. Just because this book was big and fat, I laid it down about two-thirds of the way through to concentrate on several other reading projects, including -- most recently -- Orr and Coyne's Speciation and Janet Browne's exemplary life of Darwin, Voyaging. I'm only partway through each of these, but am enjoying both quite a lot:    http://www.amazon.com/Charles....dbs_b_3 http://www.amazon.com/Speciat....&sr=1-1

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2009,20:43    The Oxford Book of Modern Science Writing by Richard Dawkins A book full of essays rather than chapters, with intros by The Big Man hissself.  He included essays by Einstein and Stephen Hawking, and even I understood what the hell they were writing about.  Mostly. Well, ok, a little bit anyway... Nothing about Dover or IDiots - the book is about Science Writig after all.  Sorry Dr. Dembski - please return to your seat.  Yes.  In the back row... PLUS, it's got a realy nice silk-like book marker - I haven't had one of those on a book since back in me old churchin' days. I give it two thumbs up.  I think it will be a nice reference book too. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

BWE Posts: 1902 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2009,02:34    I'm re-reading Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. It turns out to be one of the more formative books in my life. Next to Catch-22 it may be the most. I recommend it for a second read to those who have forgotten the subtleties of Bokonon. -------------- Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered When wished on the morning star Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it Look what it's done so far The Daily Wingnut

Steviepinhead Posts: 532 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 19 2009,14:48    Ah, Catch-22, good memories! Well, I'm not sure Yossarian's memories were all that good, but mine of the book and the times and the ambience are all good.

ppb Posts: 325 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2009,15:01    I just finished reading Chet Reymo's book "Walking Zero: Discovering Cosmic Space and Time Along the PRIME MERIDIAN".  In it he takes a walk of about 200 miles along the prime meridian in England.  He makes stops along the way at Greenwich Observatory, Darwin's home in Downe, and various other places of historic and scientific interest.  While doing so, he describes how our understanding of ourselves and our place in the universe has changed.  Where once we though ourselves at the center of everything, we now know we are a small part of a universe that is exceedingly vast in space and time. While reading it I couldn't help but think of the creationists we deal with.  They are no different than the people who thought the earth was the literal center of the cosmos, and that the sun, moon and stars revolved around it.  To them, the story of mankind is all that matters.  The thought that the universe went along just fine without us for billions of years, and will keep rolling along for billions more after we are gone, is an uncomfortable one for them. We've come a long way in the last 2000 years.  I'm constantly amazed at how much we've learned in the last 40 years that I have been a science geek. ETA: spelling -------------- "[A scientific theory] describes Nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept Nature as She is - absurd." - Richard P. Feynman

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,07:05    Here's my review of a new book, recently published in Choice.   Quote The following review appeared in the April 2009 issue of CHOICE. 46-4390                 BS651           2008-36623 CIP Forster, John Bellamy.  Critique of intelligent design: materialism versus creationism from antiquity to the present, by John Bellamy Forster, Brett Clark, and Richard York.  Monthly Review, 2008.  140p index ISBN 9781583671733 pbk, $15.95   Although there have been prior authoritative critiques of intelligent design (ID) from the scientific perspective, this is the first from a sociological perspective.  It is overdue, because, as sociologists Forster and York (both, Univ. of Oregon) and Clark (North Carolina State) make clear, the clash between ID and evolutionary theory is a culture war, not a scientific skirmish.  The science was settled long ago; creationism is not a productive scientific paradigm, and ID, the intellectual heir to creationism, adds no new scientific arguments.  ID proponents, particularly the Discovery Institute, vainly cloak their culture-warrior garb in the language of science, thus a sociological treatment of this movement can be informative and insightful.  This volume is both.  The authors indicate that the ID movement is merely a protracted argumentum ad consequentiam, and the undesirable consequence (from the ID perspective) is that their religious paradigm (biblical literalism) is rendered impotent by the fact of evolution.  The Discovery Institute's infamous "wedge strategy" starts by replacing science with religious revelation. But the "thick end of the wedge," as the authors explain, aims to make their religious viewpoint the basis for social sciences/arts/humanities.  This ultimate aim of the ID movement deserves wider attention; this book should perform admirably in that task.  Summing Up: Recommended.  Academic libraries, all levels. -- D. A. Rintoul, Kansas State University -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,07:41    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 15 2009,08:05) Here's my review of a new book, recently published in Choice.     Quote The following review appeared in the April 2009 issue of CHOICE. 46-4390                 BS651           2008-36623 CIP Forster, John Bellamy.  Critique of intelligent design: materialism versus creationism from antiquity to the present, by John Bellamy Forster, Brett Clark, and Richard York.  Monthly Review, 2008.  140p index ISBN 9781583671733 pbk, $15.95   Although there have been prior authoritative critiques of intelligent design (ID) from the scientific perspective, this is the first from a sociological perspective.  It is overdue, because, as sociologists Forster and York (both, Univ. of Oregon) and Clark (North Carolina State) make clear, the clash between ID and evolutionary theory is a culture war, not a scientific skirmish.  The science was settled long ago; creationism is not a productive scientific paradigm, and ID, the intellectual heir to creationism, adds no new scientific arguments.  ID proponents, particularly the Discovery Institute, vainly cloak their culture-warrior garb in the language of science, thus a sociological treatment of this movement can be informative and insightful.  This volume is both.  The authors indicate that the ID movement is merely a protracted argumentum ad consequentiam, and the undesirable consequence (from the ID perspective) is that their religious paradigm (biblical literalism) is rendered impotent by the fact of evolution.  The Discovery Institute's infamous "wedge strategy" starts by replacing science with religious revelation. But the "thick end of the wedge," as the authors explain, aims to make their religious viewpoint the basis for social sciences/arts/humanities.  This ultimate aim of the ID movement deserves wider attention; this book should perform admirably in that task.  Summing Up: Recommended.  Academic libraries, all levels. -- D. A. Rintoul, Kansas State University JBF is one of my favorite thinkers.  will be reading that.  thanks albie -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,07:55    I'm currently awaiting a review copy of The Unlikely Disciple by Kevin Roose (the guy who spent a semester undercover at Liberty Looniversity). The review is for Carnal Nation, and I'll post a link when it's up. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,08:40    Go and vote for your favorite Sarah Palin Book Title. Laugh & Vote Your Favorite -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,09:18    Quote (J-Dog @ May 15 2009,09:40) Go and vote for your favorite Sarah Palin Book Title. Laugh & Vote Your Favorite bwaa Pulp Diction [seattlefan] Carpe per Diem [Rob] My Children are Off Limits, or, a Personal Journey Through the Lives of my Children [MimiC] -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,18:05    Just got a new book for review. Wetware: A computer in every living cell, by computational biologist Dennis Bray. I'm sure that the title seems promising for the ID crowd, but I suspect that the contents will be disappointing for their presuppositions. I'll put a report here when I finish it. -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,20:10    Wow, I didn't know we had a book club. I'll bet there is a sauna hidden around here somewhere too I'm currently rereading Raff's The Shape of Life. Strongly recommended for those who haven't read it. -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,20:31    Quote (afarensis @ May 15 2009,21:10) Wow, I didn't know we had a book club. I'll bet there is a sauna hidden around here somewhere too :D There was, but Daniel drained it for his flud. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 16 2009,00:58    I have such a backlog that I don't even want to make a list. But one new purchase was Andrew Bergman's "Tender Is Levine: A Jack Levine Mystery" The only one we didn't have. 'Jack Levine' is a 1950's middle aged liberal Jewish private investigator. The man I trained under for my PI license was a 1950's (minded) middle aged liberal Irish Catholic private  investigator. Perfect match. Then there are these; Dembski, William and Thomas Schirrmacher (ed.s) 2009 "Tough-Minded Christianity: Honoring the Legacy of John Warick Montgomery" Nashville: B&H publishing. Two other turds that floated to the surface.... Henry M. Morris 1974 "Scientific Creationism" (2006 printing) Green Forest, Ar: Masters Books Alister E. McGrath 2009 "A Fine-Tuned Universe: The Quest for God in Science and Theology" Westminster: John Knox Both were predictable crap. That alone made them very useful. Two very pleasant surprises were;   "The Challenge of Creation: Judaism's Encounter with Science, Cosmology, and Evolution" and "Sacred Monsters" by Rabbi Natan Slifkin (2006: Yashar Books, 2007: Adama Books). -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

dnmlthr Posts: 565 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 16 2009,03:40    "The Princeton Companion to Mathematics", edited by Timothy Gowers awaits after this batch of finals. Not really an encyclopedia and not really something you read cover to cover but I'm really looking forward to dig into it. -------------- Guess what? I don't give a flying f*ck how "science works" - Ftk

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 10 2009,11:53    I posted a review of Dennis Bray's book Wetware: A computer in every living cell on Amazon just now. This is an expanded version of the review I sent to Choice, which will appear sometime later this year. The Amazon review will take a couple of days to appear, but I'll append it below. I think that the title of this book will excite the ID and TT crowd, but the contents are sure to disappoint. The author of Spatula Brain will be sorely disappointed, but that probably won't stop her from blogging about it in a particularly obtuse and uncomprehending manner... Quote The premise for this book is that systems of proteins can convey and process information at the level of a single free-living cell. These proteins act as switches or transistors, functioning as the nervous system does for multicellular organisms. Bray presents abundant evidence that this is the case. Several well-studied cellular examples (e.g. bacterial chemotaxis) are used to illustrate the principle that complex behaviors and even the appearance of “consciousness” can be the product of relatively simple combinations of switches and outcomes. This is augmented by discussion of simple robots (e.g. Grey Walter’s “tortoises”) and computer games (e.g. PacMan), illustrating the point that some extremely complex behaviors can result from extremely simple circuits and motors. His insight that “it is much more difficult to infer internal structure from the observation of behavior than to create the structure that gives the behavior in the first place” is a powerful one, and should give pause to anyone who subscribes to the notion of “intelligent design”, or who thinks that cellular activities are “irreducibly complex”. Humans can be easily fooled into believing that human-like attributes can only be attributed to human-like intelligence.. But the notion that a cell is so complex that it must have been designed by a supernatural agent is similar to the response one might imagine if a caveman was confronted by a simple robot. In both cases the object seems beyond comprehension; in both cases the object can actually be described by simple physical laws, circuits and switches. Bray brings the full force of his experience and intellect to this book, showing the way toward a deeper understanding of single-cell behavior, neural net capabilities, and our innate ability to infer consciousness or agency in systems that actually have a very simple network of switches and outcomes. It is important to understand that Bray is not saying that single cells have what we call "consciousness", but they do have properties that could be described as short-term memory, intentions, and learning. Clearly these properties cannot be the result of a brain and nervous system, but must be based in a far simpler circuitry of proteins and environmental cues. Complete appreciation of this book will require some basic biological education; some of that is supplied by the author while other concepts are assumed. His perspective allows us another step away from the brain/mind Descartian dualism that seems to be making a comeback among anti-intellectual and anti-scientific proponents of theological arguments such as intelligent design.   The arguments thus have not only scientific ramifications, but cultural and philosophical ramifications as well. -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2009,09:04    General J.C. Christian's review of Eugene Windchy's tome, The End of Darwinism is available for reading (and voting) on Amazon. This is a book that Pat Buchanan loved, so you know it's a good one! -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Stephen Elliott Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2009,13:44    I picked up Richard Dawkins "The Greatest Show on Earth" yesterday. I am just starting chapter 3 ATM and so far it is almost like reading this site, without the nonsense bits from creationists, LOL cats, dick jokes and references to alcohol and/or mums. Oh, not much like reading here then.

ppb Posts: 325 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 07 2009,08:40    This item  should be of interest to any of you Edgar Allan Poe fans.  They're giving his funeral a do-over. -------------- "[A scientific theory] describes Nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept Nature as She is - absurd." - Richard P. Feynman

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2009,16:57    I just finished Sir Terry Pratchett's last offering: Unseen Academicals. I'll give it a 4.5/5 While the main plot is about football (soccer for you Yankees), 60% of the novel is about very funny and interesting sub-plots, which Sir Pterry handles, as always, masterly. Anhk-Morpork is evolving, and with it the usual cast of all time favorites. And for the first time, Vetinary gets drunk! A must read! -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2009,10:57    This might make a nice Christmas present: The Fossil Hunter Dinosaurs, Evolution, and the Woman Whose Discoveries Changed the World by Shelley Emling, Palgrave Macmillan 2009 ISBN 978-0-230-61156-6 A biography of Mary Anning whose discoveries around the British coastal town of Lyme Regis helped establish paleontology among sciences. The book describes Anning's life set in the context of Georgian society and the limits she experienced due to class, religious prejudice and gender. Written in a lively and easy to read style (with the occasional snark against creationism), it is a good read for interested laypersons. I guess it could appeal to kids from the age of 12 upwards, too. It comes with period drawings of fossils she discovered (Plesiosaurus and Pterodactylus). -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2009,15:31    I've just posted a brief review on Amazon of Stephen Rothman's new book; Life Beyond Molecules and Genes: How our Adaptations Make Us Alive, published by the Templeton Foundation. If you don't have time to read the review, here's a summary. I didn't like it. -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

ppb Posts: 325 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 04 2010,11:05    I'm in the middle of reading this book: I find out yesterday that I should be reading this book: It's the Abraham Lincoln Doris Kearns Goodwin won't tell you about!   Sure, she'll talk about the rail splitter, the Great Emancipator.   But did you know that our sixteenth President was also a Vampire Hunter?  It's true! * Soon to be a Major Motion Picture from director Tim Burton. ** * For certain values of "true".   I mean, how do we know what's really true?   Did Washington cross the Delaware?  Who knows!   Were you there?!? *** ** Sweet! *** NO! -------------- "[A scientific theory] describes Nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept Nature as She is - absurd." - Richard P. Feynman

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2010,09:52    This is one of the pictures in "Alpha" by Jens Harder, a hardcover comic about the history of our planet - 350 pages of sometimes scientific, sometimes phantastic drawings, black on white, red, or yellow, painstakingly inked. And it's only the first of two volumes; it ends with the first humans. He tries to be as scientifically accurate as possible. Of course ideal for kids, but also for adults who share his enthusiasm for science and its wonders. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alpha-directions-Jens-Harder/dp/2742781021 Strangely, I could not find it on Amazon.com. -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2010,15:33    P.S. I've got the German original, Amazon sells the French translation. -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

dvunkannon Posts: 1377 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2010,21:08    I'm almost through with Nick Lane's "Life Ascending: The Ten Great Inventions of Evolution". Very good summaries of current thinking on various topics. My only quibble is how often he says "it seems that X only evolved once" when what he means is "of all the times that X evolved, all current life descends from one instance". The book is entertaining enough that I've purchased his two previous books, "Oxygen" and "Power, Sex, and Suicide" (about mitochondria). -------------- I’m referring to evolution, not changes in allele frequencies. - Cornelius Hunter I’m not an evolutionist, I’m a change in allele frequentist! - Nakashima

Bjarne Posts: 29 Joined: Dec. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 05 2010,16:46    Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 03 2010,16:52) This is one of the pictures in "Alpha" by Jens Harder, a hardcover comic about the history of our planet - 350 pages of sometimes scientific, sometimes phantastic drawings, black on white, red, or yellow, painstakingly inked. And it's only the first of two volumes; it ends with the first humans. He tries to be as scientifically accurate as possible. Of course ideal for kids, but also for adults who share his enthusiasm for science and its wonders. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alpha-directions-Jens-Harder/dp/2742781021 Strangely, I could not find it on Amazon.com. Hmm, this might be the perfect birthday present for my dad. Though € 50 is a bit much for a comic book for my taste. Is it worth the money? I've just begun reading "The Greatest shown on Earth" in the hope of finding inspirations for future Biology classes. So far it looks quite promising in this respect. Furthermore, I read Lovecraft's "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward" for the 4th or 5th time. Its really a nice book in my eyes.

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2010,06:41    Quote (Bjarne @ July 05 2010,16:46) Hmm, this might be the perfect birthday present for my dad. Though € 50 is a bit much for a comic book for my taste. Is it worth the money? I think it is - it's huge, approximately 20 by 30 cm, elegant lay-out, expensive paper, and the drawings are real artwork. -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

Bjarne Posts: 29 Joined: Dec. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2010,15:45    Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 06 2010,13:41) Quote (Bjarne @ July 05 2010,16:46) Hmm, this might be the perfect birthday present for my dad. Though € 50 is a bit much for a comic book for my taste. Is it worth the money? I think it is - it's huge, approximately 20 by 30 cm, elegant lay-out, expensive paper, and the drawings are real artwork. Thanks. Its now definitely on the list of possible presents. :)

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