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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 17 2016,13:28   

Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 08 2016,14:48)
Shiiiiiiiiiit, I got banned more than 4 times when Dembski was still running the joint.

I was pre-banned by Dave whatsizname.

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 17 2016,20:52   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 17 2016,21:28)
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 08 2016,14:48)
Shiiiiiiiiiit, I got banned more than 4 times when Dembski was still running the joint.

I was pre-banned by Dave whatsizname.

Same here. Although posting as Vajracchedika (buddhist diamond sutra) probably didn't help.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus
"I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 17 2016,21:18   

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 17 2016,20:52)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 17 2016,21:28)
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 08 2016,14:48)
Shiiiiiiiiiit, I got banned more than 4 times when Dembski was still running the joint.

I was pre-banned by Dave whatsizname.

Same here. Although posting as Vajracchedika (buddhist diamond sutra) probably didn't help.

I got banned posting as LackofFocus and as Rationality's Bane. Some people just have no sense of humour.

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 17 2016,23:14   

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 17 2016,20:52)
   
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 17 2016,21:28)
   
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 08 2016,14:48)
Shiiiiiiiiiit, I got banned more than 4 times when Dembski was still running the joint.

I was pre-banned by Dave whatsizname.

Same here. Although posting as Vajracchedika (buddhist diamond sutra) probably didn't help.

That probably sounded too Mexican to Davetard.

I used to post as ID_is_4_Wankers, but somebody eventually told him.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 18 2016,19:36   

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 17 2016,19:52)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 17 2016,21:28)
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 08 2016,14:48)
Shiiiiiiiiiit, I got banned more than 4 times when Dembski was still running the joint.

I was pre-banned by Dave whatsizname.

Same here. Although posting as Vajracchedika (buddhist diamond sutra) probably didn't help.

Thus ended the moment of zen?

  
paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 18 2016,19:58   

Quote (Henry J @ Nov. 18 2016,17:36)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 17 2016,19:52)
 
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 17 2016,21:28)
   
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 08 2016,14:48)
Shiiiiiiiiiit, I got banned more than 4 times when Dembski was still running the joint.

I was pre-banned by Dave whatsizname.

Same here. Although posting as Vajracchedika (buddhist diamond sutra) probably didn't help.

Thus ended the moment of zen?

Dont worry. Diamond sutras are forever.

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

  
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2016,03:38   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 17 2016,23:14)
 
Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 17 2016,20:52)
       
Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 17 2016,21:28)
       
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 08 2016,14:48)
Shiiiiiiiiiit, I got banned more than 4 times when Dembski was still running the joint.

I was pre-banned by Dave whatsizname.

Same here. Although posting as Vajracchedika (buddhist diamond sutra) probably didn't help.

That probably sounded too Mexican to Davetard.

I used to post as ID_is_4_Wankers, but somebody eventually told him.

I get a laugh out of it every time I see it, a good way to start the day.

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2016,16:59   

OK, which one of you guys has socked up as Fordgreen?

All I can say is "masterful job". Just enough subservience (ass kissing) to get past the censors.

KF stew

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2016,22:38   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 21 2016,16:59)
OK, which one of you guys has socked up as Fordgreen?

All I can say is "masterful job". Just enough subservience (ass kissing) to get past the censors.

KF stew

Do God, Dieu, Gott, Bóg, Dio, Dios, Deus possess similar FiaSC/O values?
What about Father, Son and the Holy Spirit? How do they compare to each other and to Trinity. It's obvious from Gordon Mullings ouevre that the three of them score at least three times better than YHWH and for obvious reasons it's a safe bet that KF's calculation for Allah's will result in zero. Would Satan get negative scores?

Edited by sparc on Nov. 21 2016,22:39

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,03:37   

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Coming Soon-‘Design Disquisitions’ A New ID Blog
November 21, 2016 Posted by Joshua G under Biology, General interest, Intelligent Design, News, Of General Interest
3 Comments

Despite being an ID advocate for several years now (and having an authors account on this forum), I haven’t really taken the time to put pen to paper and write about it, apart from a few lengthy exchanges I had with a close friend and critic of ID. He has since stepped away from the online world, and so the exchange has ended. You can still view my responses to him here, here, here, here, and here. I also published one article where I highlighted various atheists and agnostics who are critical of neo-Darwinism and supportive of ID here.

The last thing I wrote on the subject was two years ago now, however this last year I’ve been wishing to start up a new ID blog. I made this decision for several reasons. One reason is that I simply want a place where I can write and consolidate my thoughts on the matter. I’ve also been meaning to get back into writing in general, and of course, I need a specific topic to focus on. Having said all this, I’m genuinely fascinated with this whole topic, particularly philosophy of science and biology. Yes, there are already plenty of good, active blogs and websites that cover this area so it isn’t as if another one is necessary, but I do think I can add something to the discussion.

There are other factors that make this new blog slightly different to ones already out there. I’m from the UK and not officially affiliated with other ID organisations like the Discovery Institute and so really, mine is an independent one. There have been some pro-design UK blogs in the past but they are now in stasis and as far as I’m aware there isn’t much other commentary coming from my neck of the woods. Of course, I’m fully aware of the excellent work that Centre for Intelligent Design have and are still doing (and I hear they’ll be launching a brand new website in the new year). I have contacts with many involved with C4ID and have taken part in some of their events. But I still feel that there needs to be a little more activity coming from us Brits so hopefully I can help to fill that gap.

To give a few more concrete details about this blog, it’s provisional title is ‘Design Disquisitions’, as I think it accurately captures my intentions behind this endeavour. I intend to use it to explore all aspects of the ID conversation, documenting different perspectives in the debate and turning a critical eye to both sides (even though I do side with the design view). I’ll also be defending ID by responding to critics and documenting the powerful, positive arguments in its favour. I have little interest in the political culture wars that often get dragged in to this issue and I want to focus on the science and philosophy. I love places like Uncommon Descent and Evolution News and Views, yet I think perhaps conservative ethical, political and and other extra-scientific issues get mixed in too much, which distorts the corpus. I’m not saying I necessarily disagree with conservative views on those issues, and of course, ID may have many extra-scientific implications, but for me they are not relevant to ID as a scientific theory.

I’ve already been working hard on this blog throughout the year, so I have quite a bit of material stocked up. I’ve also worked hard at just gathering resources and it’ll be the most thorough storehouse of ID material on the web. As for when it will be online, I’m aiming for January in the new year. Until then I’ve got a lot of work to do!
linky

   
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,03:58   

Is that the same Josh who was Dembski's assistant (in some capacity or other) back in the day? The same Josh who flat out said on UD that yes, ID really is an attempt to sneak back into the classrooms (or something like that)?

That Josh?

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,04:02   

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I have little interest in the political culture wars that often get dragged in to this issue and I want to focus on the science and philosophy.

OK.
 
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I love places like Uncommon Descent and Evolution News and Views...

Literally the next sentence.

  
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,05:54   

Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,03:58)
Is that the same Josh who was Dembski's assistant (in some capacity or other) back in the day? The same Josh who flat out said on UD that yes, ID really is an attempt to sneak back into the classrooms (or something like that)?

That Josh?

Are you thinking of Josh McDowell, or another Josh?

This Josh seems to be Joshua Gidney. Seems to be linked more to Jonathan Mclatchie.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,06:49   

The only assistent I remember is Joel Borofsky of Kansas evolution hearings fame.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,07:16   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 22 2016,00:59)
OK, which one of you guys has socked up as Fordgreen?

All I can say is "masterful job". Just enough subservience (ass kissing) to get past the censors.

KF stew

I was thinking where have I heard that name before? But that turned out to be Winston Smith's insouciant neighbor Tom Parsons.

Could the actual Ford Greene be moonlighting?

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"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus
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Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,07:37   

Quote (sparc @ Nov. 22 2016,12:49)
The only assistent I remember is Joel Borofsky of Kansas evolution hearings fame.

Yeah....that's probably who I'm thinking of.

I wish the search worked.

edit: yep it was Joel.

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It really is ID in disguise. The entire purpose behind all of this is to shift it into schools…at least that is the hope/fear among some science teachers in the area.


Here's Ed Brayton's take on it...

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatc....nt-ex-1

Although I think Steve might have got there first...

http://tinyurl.com/hvldjpt....hvldjpt

Edited by Woodbine on Nov. 22 2016,13:49

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,07:53   

Also - someone tell me what happened to Erasmus?

K.E. hinted at some kind of drama but it escaped me.

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,07:56   

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Joshua G, the awkward problem with blogs is that they are non-economic volunteer projects that tend to last until one or a few individuals get drawn away for various reasons.

Denyse still bitter that nobody ever thought enough of her 5 blogs to 'feed the kitty'.

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,09:23   

Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,07:56)
 
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Joshua G, the awkward problem with blogs is that they are non-economic volunteer projects that tend to last until one or a few individuals get drawn away for various reasons.

Denyse still bitter that nobody ever thought enough of her 5 blogs to 'feed the kitty'.

I was under the impression that she's paid for her UD work.  Am I wrong here?

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,09:28   

Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,15:53)
Also - someone tell me what happened to Erasmus?

K.E. hinted at some kind of drama but it escaped me.

Erasmus didn't didn't say anything to me however long ago that was now, 2009 maybe. When Heddle showed up the other day and asked if he missed anything interesting I thought he may have missed Erasmus, who I thought was pretty damn funny. But taking a random look back through some of those posts, Heddle was there as well. So no drama really, he disappeared not long after I added one of his gems to my sig. I wildly speculate his wife pulled the plug, mine certainly would have.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus
"I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,09:36   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 22 2016,17:23)
Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,07:56)
 
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Joshua G, the awkward problem with blogs is that they are non-economic volunteer projects that tend to last until one or a few individuals get drawn away for various reasons.

Denyse still bitter that nobody ever thought enough of her 5 blogs to 'feed the kitty'.

I was under the impression that she's paid for her UD work.  Am I wrong here?

So she's a failure at click bait too? God if i was getting paid to drive in eyeballs to that broom closet I'd be posting all the usual nutjob fake news stuff. It worked for Breitbart.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus
"I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,10:32   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 22 2016,15:23)
Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,07:56)
 
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Joshua G, the awkward problem with blogs is that they are non-economic volunteer projects that tend to last until one or a few individuals get drawn away for various reasons.

Denyse still bitter that nobody ever thought enough of her 5 blogs to 'feed the kitty'.

I was under the impression that she's paid for her UD work.  Am I wrong here?

My guess is the amount of money she gets from UD has declined in proportion with ID.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,11:57   

There's no way to get a good idea of UD's stats, and sometimes the comments are relatively busy, but there's a pallor over there.

   
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,15:07   

Quote (k.e.. @ Nov. 22 2016,07:28)
Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,15:53)
Also - someone tell me what happened to Erasmus?

K.E. hinted at some kind of drama but it escaped me.

Erasmus didn't didn't say anything to me however long ago that was now, 2009 maybe. When Heddle showed up the other day and asked if he missed anything interesting I thought he may have missed Erasmus, who I thought was pretty damn funny. But taking a random look back through some of those posts, Heddle was there as well. So no drama really, he disappeared not long after I added one of his gems to my sig. I wildly speculate his wife pulled the plug, mine certainly would have.

I miss 'Ras. He was my birthday twin.

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Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,15:10   

Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,06:56)
 
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Joshua G, the awkward problem with blogs is that they are non-economic volunteer projects that tend to last until one or a few individuals get drawn away for various reasons.

Denyse still bitter that nobody ever thought enough of her 5 blogs to 'feed the kitty'.

Within that same comment by Denyse, I find the following a revealing admission:
 
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Hunter is a DI fellow but that is a somewhat loose relationship that mainly commits the parties to not dissing each other in public.


No telling what happens in private with Mister Leathers.

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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,16:16   

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Nov. 22 2016,13:10)
Within that same comment by Denyse, I find the following a revealing admission:
   
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Hunter is a DI fellow but that is a somewhat loose relationship that mainly commits the parties to not dissing each other in public.

That there is comedy gold. I nominate Denyse for POTW.

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,17:08   

Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,10:32)
Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 22 2016,15:23)
Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 22 2016,07:56)
   
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Joshua G, the awkward problem with blogs is that they are non-economic volunteer projects that tend to last until one or a few individuals get drawn away for various reasons.

Denyse still bitter that nobody ever thought enough of her 5 blogs to 'feed the kitty'.

I was under the impression that she's paid for her UD work.  Am I wrong here?

My guess is the amount of money she gets from UD has declined in proportion with ID.

Which is why I predict another amnesty in the near future.

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,17:14   

Hunter has been ver busy lately on his blog. There have been no simultaneous posting at UD in a long while so he must still be personna non grata. But he does have Joe as a frequent commenter, increasing the intellectual gravitas of the site.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,21:03   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 22 2016,18:08)
Which is why I predict another amnesty in the near future.

there's only so many times they can pull that. I bet a lot of commenters have permanently moved on.

UD's problem is its personnel can't perform its function. You can't pretend to be Serious Science Site if all you've got is barry, kf, and ba.

   
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2016,21:25   

Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 22 2016,21:03)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 22 2016,18:08)
Which is why I predict another amnesty in the near future.

there's only so many times they can pull that. I bet a lot of commenters have permanently moved on.

UD's problem is its personnel can't perform its function. You can't pretend to be Serious Science Site if all you've got is barry, kf, and ba.

And it seems that KF is the only one writing OPs. If you can call them that. As entertaining as that can be, KF can't sustain a blog. I'm surprised that he can sustain his own heart beat.

  
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