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Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,13:13   

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StephenB: Suppose you were a witness in a murder case and the prosecution was trying to decide if the defendant had opportunity, means, and motive to commit the crime. He is accused of a brutal physical act. The prosecutor begins the process of ascertaining the probability of guilt.

First, he want’s to know if the alleged killer had the opportunity (was he on the scene?) If not, there is no need to proceed further. If so, he moves to the next step to find out if the defendant actually had a murder weapon (means). If not, there is no need to proceeed. If so, he begins to consider possible motives.

Okay, let's apply this to biological origins. To make the analogy work, we need to have a particular suspect on the docket. Let's call him The Lord Almighty Mr. Designer. We have the corpse, but do we have evidence that Mr. Designer was on the scene? No. There is no need to proceed further. Did Mr. Designer have the means? It depends on the capabilities of Mr. Designer, so we have to know something about Mr. Designer. Having a corpse is not sufficient to convict Mr. Designer. Indeed, having a corpse is not sufficient even to establish a corpus delecti—that a crime has actually been committed.

So, StephenB has illustrated for us the necessity of establishing a causal link between the perpetrator, the modus operandi and the corpse.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,13:18   

Maybe someone should post Dimski's home phone number and personal address, just because you have a passion for truth that is.  Only because you are frustrated.  I'm sure he'd understand.

Chris

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,13:40   

And you gotta love how StephenB mutates "ReligionProf" to "Religious Prof".

Freudian slip, no doubt. Except that we know, per FtK, that all religion profs are atheists. How can they be religious?

Oh, that's right. Atheism (and materialism and Darwinism, which are all the same anyway) is a religion.

My bad...

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,13:53   

Sal disses GEB    
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Hofstadter’s book, Godel, Escher, Bach explored the whole issue of what is intelligence. (The subtitle of Hofstadter’s book is “A metaphorical fugue on minds and machines”). After 800 pages, Hofstadter offered no definition of intelligence!!!
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So in a strict sense, even “Darwinian algorithms” in computer science are not really Darwinian. I would suggest the proper term would be “Blythian” not “Darwinian”.

Michalski’s work raises scientific questions such as “what is the implication of No Free Lunch on Machne Learning?”

No Free Lunch theorems still place a bound on what systems with the ability “learn” (such as Michalski’s mahcines) might actually be able to learn. I do not have answers to the implication of No Free Lunch theorems on Michalski’s work but that would be a good topic of exploration for an Evolutionary Informatics research program, exactly the kind of research program which scientists like Robert Marks pioneered.


I like the way Sal is always ready with what should be done. Very little of the doing. He was the same over at his youngcosmos blog. "Expermients need to be done", "one day it might be discovered that..."
And is there some sort of envy there, to want to remove Darwin's very name, replace it with “Blythian”? Does Sal want history to remember his name? He'd better decide what it is first off.

I await developments Sal. And anyway I thought Sal was shutting up and going away? I guess he can't bear to be without the illusion of the limelight.*

*That could be the illusion of the illusion of the limelight, depends on how cynical you are.

Lets compare Sal's body of work against Hofstadter's.

Read the rest. I really rather dislike the spin Sal puts on everything
 
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Un-adulterated Dawkins/Dennett type Darwinism is brainless, mindless, stupid, aimless, blind and undesigned.

Hmm. Is there an elephant in the room?

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,13:56   

oooooooh Carpus delecti



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Rob



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,14:43   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 03 2007,13:53)
Sal disses GEB        
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Hofstadter’s book, Godel, Escher, Bach explored the whole issue of what is intelligence. (The subtitle of Hofstadter’s book is “A metaphorical fugue on minds and machines”). After 800 pages, Hofstadter offered no definition of intelligence!!!

Kinda like his criticism of Elsberry & Shallit's paper, which amounted to, "They didn't mention my favorite definition of CSI."

Of course, the IDists haven't come up with a definition of intelligence either, leaving gaping holes in their pseudologic.  GEB is a classic, and it has far more interesting insights into intelligence (even when not discussing it directly) than anything that IDists have come up with.  People like Albert Voie (whom Sal likes to cite) who talk about Godel without grokking him would do well to read it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,15:54   

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So in a strict sense, even “Darwinian algorithms” in computer science are not really Darwinian. I would suggest the proper term would be “Blythian” not “Darwinian”.

Michalski’s work raises scientific questions such as “what is the implication of No Free Lunch on Machne Learning?”

No Free Lunch theorems still place a bound on what systems with the ability “learn” (such as Michalski’s mahcines) might actually be able to learn. I do not have answers to the implication of No Free Lunch theorems on Michalski’s work but that would be a good topic of exploration for an Evolutionary Informatics research program, exactly the kind of research program which scientists like Robert Marks pioneered.


I like the way Sal is always ready with what should be done. Very little of the doing. He was the same over at his youngcosmos blog. "Expermients need to be done", "one day it might be discovered that..."


Sal is just an IDEA man.

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Rob



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,16:31   

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Sal is just an IDEA man.

Gotta love amateur night at AtBC.  Tracy gets my vote for last comic standing.  Watch for him on Leno.

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,17:16   

StephenB is a promising young tard.
 
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Religious Prof:

Also, if you are going to use religious arguments against ID by suggesting that God could have done it better, why not solve it with a religious answer. God created a universe with perfect design, but the design was later compromised by the effects of original sin.

If you are going to use your religious imagination–go all the way. Don’t just use religion to raise questions and then abandon relgion when it provides the answers.

As with any argument involving the concept of original sin, the only rational response is "Were you there?????"

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,17:17   

That's a good looking young woman and one really great fish.  I did fairly well last weekend:



He was part of a masters degree project tracking migration patterns of various deepwater fish.  He got an accostic transmiter and a shoulder tag and a 6 mile boat ride before release.

Here is a slightly smaller specimen:



Because we had to release them in good shape, I lost more blood than the fish did- even with their minor surgery. (Check out the teeth in the first photo).

Naturally, the really big one got away.  (really scary big)

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Rob



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,17:46   

StephenB chides someone for not reading The Design Inference:  
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Apparently, you are also not aware that Dembski has made an important distinction between “optimum design” and “perfect design.” You can read about it in his book, “The Design Inference.”

It makes no sense to keep shooting all these arrows hoping that one day you will hit a target. Why not just do the reading?

He did the same a week ago:  
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It would be one thing if Ayala had read The Design Inference and said, “I don’t agree with the distinction between “optimum design” and “perfect design.” However, from what I gather, he has not even chartered that territory, much less formulated an intelligent objection to the principles brought forth. Unless I am missing something, I must conclude that he is not only unfair, but also uninformed.

Only one problem:  The Design Inference says nothing about optimum design, optimal design, or perfect design, so I'm wondering if StephenB has read it himself.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,18:35   

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Banned Books Week - at least one dinosaur survived after all
Uncommonly Denyse

...I always say, look at Larry Summers, once Harvard prez, now Unperson. His crime? Only to say what every thinking person actually knows: That the preponderance of men in maths and hard sciences is most likely based in nature, not social prejudice...However human evolution happened, it left more men than women with the types of aptitudes that are rewarded in math and hard sciences.

You know, this post is not exactly self-refuting.

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,19:03   

Crikey. That post by BarryA, baited with high-density tard, has really brought in the lunkers.

The ever-clueless Bornagain77, still resting up after his shellacking on the Cal Lit Review site for Behe's interview, becomes almost AFDave-like in his argumentum ex recto (my bolding)  
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I believe geographic isolation and diversity of species will fall under front-loaded conditions that obey genetic entropy..

Take for instance the human adaptations from the original parent species of humans that is thought to have migrated out of Africa 50,000 years ago. We can readily prove that loss of information (Genetic Entropy) is occurring...

“We found an enormous amount of diversity within and between the African populations, and we found much less diversity in non-African populations,” Tishkoff told attendees today (Jan. 22) at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Anaheim. “Only a small subset of the diversity in Africa is found in Europe and the Middle East, and an even narrower set is found in American Indians.”

As well we can readily see on the morphological level of humans that, since black contains all the information for the other colors, that humans are losing information for skin color (I argue losing information for shape as well).

And right above that, tribune7 (what is it with these guys and the number 7?) gives us an insight into the powerful workings of an IDists mind  
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We can’t forget the things that ID shows — namely that design is the best explanation for certain aspects of organisms.

And it does it objectively, without resort to supernatural explanations.

I guess I missed the "natural explanation" paragraphs in the ID literature...

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,20:42   

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(what is it with these guys and the number 7?)


The Seven

SUSAN: Seven Costanza? You're serious?

GEORGE: Yeah. It's a beautiful name for a boy or a girl...

Susan scoffs.

GEORGE: ...especially a girl. Or a boy.



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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,21:32   

The magic of Tard:

http://www.aproundtable.org/LennoxDebate/comments_thanks.cfm

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,21:45   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 03 2007,19:35)
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Banned Books Week - at least one dinosaur survived after all
Uncommonly Denyse

...I always say, look at Larry Summers, once Harvard prez, now Unperson. His crime? Only to say what every thinking person actually knows: That the preponderance of men in maths and hard sciences is most likely based in nature

Whether you agree or disagree with the things Larry Summers said, only a stupid person would summarize Summers's comments like that.

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,22:36   

Dog bites man, Sal dishonest-fuckwit-with-no place-in-heaven gets caught quotemining:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/compute....-140169

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larrycranston

10/03/2007

10:06 pm
Mr. Cordova,

Did you mean to cut off the quote in the original post? I think the full text is

“In contrast to Darwinian evolution, an intellectual evolution is guided by an ‘intelligent mind,’ that is, by humans who analyze advantages and disadvantages of previous generation of solutions and use the developed understanding in creating next generation of solutions.”

It sounds like he is talking here about something other than the Designer in the broader context of ID. Can you clarify?


Sal, you're not a scoundrel, you just a dishonest tard who can't follow the rules in his 'good book'.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,22:38   

Quote (Rob @ Oct. 03 2007,17:46)
StephenB chides someone for not reading The Design Inference:    
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Apparently, you are also not aware that Dembski has made an important distinction between “optimum design” and “perfect design.” You can read about it in his book, “The Design Inference.”

It makes no sense to keep shooting all these arrows hoping that one day you will hit a target. Why not just do the reading?

He did the same a week ago:    
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It would be one thing if Ayala had read The Design Inference and said, “I don’t agree with the distinction between “optimum design” and “perfect design.” However, from what I gather, he has not even chartered that territory, much less formulated an intelligent objection to the principles brought forth. Unless I am missing something, I must conclude that he is not only unfair, but also uninformed.

Only one problem:  The Design Inference says nothing about optimum design, optimal design, or perfect design, so I'm wondering if StephenB has read it himself.

He get's called on it here:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-140157

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larrycranston

10/03/2007

9:26 pm
StephenB:

It’s been a while since I read The Design Inference, but I don’t recall Dr. Dembski addressing optimum design and perfect design. Can you provide citations?


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,22:55   

Larry is living on borrowed time.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2007,22:56   

I wonder if larrycranston reads AtBC?  ;)

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,00:56   

Wah Wah Baylor epidode XI: WND chimes in...

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57974

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,05:56   

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Wah Wah Baylor epidode XI: WND chimes in...

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57974

The best part of that WhirledNutDaily article is the picture of Bob Marks, surrounded by a pile of books and reprints. Recalling that FtK thinks that the pile-o-books ploy used against Behe at Dover was just "street theatre", I'm sure she will be equally upset by this offensive picture in WND.

Since she has quoted approvingly from their pages in the past, I hope that her open-minded nature will kick in and she will put up something on her blog about this sort of simple-minded propaganda.

Or not.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,06:04   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Oct. 03 2007,19:03)
Bornagain77 :  
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I believe geographic isolation and diversity of species will fall under front-loaded conditions that obey genetic entropy..

Woa, that sure sounds sciency.  :O
How do you test that hypothesis?

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,06:16   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 04 2007,01:56)
Wah Wah Baylor epidode XI: WND chimes in...

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57974

The author packs a lot into a short paragraph:
     
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Maybe it's because for so many years the logical alternative to Darwin's theory of evolution, which is grounded on such foundations as random selection and survival of the fittest, has been disregarded and ridiculed by the scientific community. And intelligent design, as it is called, presumes the existence of God, or at least an outside intelligence influencing life, according to a critic of the university.

There is so much here. I like "random selection." Why not also "natural mutation?" Spencer/Huxley's 140 year old sound bite. The notion that ID is necessarily the "logical alternative" to evolutionary theory. And (*moment of embarassment*), the frank admission that ID presumes the existence of God.

That's a lot of errortainment to pack into one paragraph. (He did get the "disregarded and ridiculed by the scientific community" part right.)

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,06:53   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Oct. 04 2007,13:56)
       
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 04 2007,00:56)
Wah Wah Baylor epidode XI: WND chimes in...

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57974

The best part of that WhirledNutDaily article is the picture of Bob Marks, surrounded by a pile of books and reprints. Recalling that FtK thinks that the pile-o-books ploy used against Behe at Dover was just "street theatre", I'm sure she will be equally upset by this offensive picture in WND.

Since she has quoted approvingly from their pages in the past, I hope that her open-minded nature will kick in and she will put up something on her blog about this sort of simple-minded propaganda.

Or not.


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GAVE US FTK and WND YOU HOMOS!!!

THE BEST PART?

THE BEST PART WAS WHERE ROERT J. MARKS II WENT FROM A PETULANT TWO EYED CHEESE EATING ZOMBIE TO A ONE EYED PETULANT CHEESE EATING ZOMBIE WITH A SQUINT.





HE HAS DESIGNS ON YOUR MIND AND WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO GET IT.

ZEND IN ZEE HEFFTEEKAY ZOMBOT MINUH ME.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,07:05   

Pah! That looks like a pile of phone books to me. Let your fingers do the walking! (do you need an opposable thumb?)

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,07:12   

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Pah! That looks like a pile of phone books to me. Let your fingers do the walking! (do you need an opposable thumb?)

Last time I saw fingers like that was in an Opium Den in Penang.

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,07:21   

Didn't R.J. Marks the Turd show up to defend his god for nothing dad?

FTK?

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,08:50   

Ok, now I know where I saw that face before.



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2007,09:00   

Denyse :

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....re-2715


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Many worlds theory supports intelligent design?
O'Leary
The blog, Anarchic Harmony , operated by William J. Murray, is worth a look. About many world’s theory (= every time you turn right instead of left, a new universe is created in which you turned left) Murray writes,

I thought you might be interested in an argument I came up with in a new blog about how the MWI theory, which scientists are now starting to invoke in order to explain the anthropic principle and the origin of life, supports ID theory and indicates it would in fact be a better scientific model to use in many cases.

Say what?

The MWI argument is that out of infinite non-productive variations of universes we have one (or more, but we’re in this one) that by chance is so ordered and specific that it has generated product (intelligent, conscious life forms with incredibly specified, complex biologies that are manifest from coded instructions) that utterly defies random, non-directed modeling, as well as an anthropic universe that utterly defies random, non-directed modeling.

Even if our universe is the necessary chance result of infinite, many-world iterations of universes, intelligent design would necessarily be a far better model of description and analysis than non-directed models in many scientific ventures, because an ID model would more accurately described the incredibly ordered, improbable patterns of chance outcomes in this particular universe.


....


TEH STUPID IT HURTS.

I wonder if the "engineers" at UD will see this isn't how it works. You don't design a billion bridges then pick the best one to span the river..

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