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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2016,02:52   

Hmm...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release....826.htm

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: July 25 2016,17:09   

LUCA and protons and such

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Genes that do the same thing in a human and a mouse are generally related by common descent from an ancestral gene in the first mammal. So by comparing their sequence of DNA letters, genes can be arranged in evolutionary family trees, a property that enabled Dr. Martin and his colleagues to assign the six million genes to a much smaller number of gene families. Of these, only 355 met their criteria for having probably originated in Luca, the joint ancestor of bacteria and archaea.

Genes are adapted to an organism’s environment. So Dr. Martin hoped that by pinpointing the genes likely to have been present in Luca, he would also get a glimpse of where and how Luca lived. “I was flabbergasted at the result, I couldn’t believe it,” he said.


The 355 genes pointed quite precisely to an organism that lived in the conditions found in deep sea vents, the gassy, metal-laden, intensely hot plumes caused by seawater interacting with magma erupting through the ocean floor.


Edited by stevestory on July 25 2016,18:14

   
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: July 26 2016,10:05   

This could cause science deniers to want to vent...

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: July 26 2016,12:14   

Quote (Henry J @ July 26 2016,18:05)
This could cause science deniers to want to vent...

Or "Then why are there still clostridia and methanogens, Evobots?"

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: July 26 2016,14:00   

So global warming isn't going to kill off all life after all.

Why all the fuss?

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: July 26 2016,17:25   

Quote (midwifetoad @ July 26 2016,13:00)
So global warming isn't going to kill off all life after all.

Why all the fuss?

Not for another billion and something years, anyway, according to a Wiki article on yellow dwarf life cycle. And that gives us some leeway.

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: July 27 2016,08:56   

Quote (Henry J @ July 27 2016,01:25)
Quote (midwifetoad @ July 26 2016,13:00)
So global warming isn't going to kill off all life after all.

Why all the fuss?

Not for another billion and something years, anyway, according to a Wiki article on yellow dwarf life cycle. And that gives us some leeway.

OH SO YOU ARE NOT WAITING FOR TEH RAPTURE HOMO!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU MAKE DONALD UNHAPPY.

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Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2016,22:03   

Animals learning to communicate what they desire?

Horse Feathers!

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 24 2016,23:49   

Three symbol vocabulary? Smaller vocabulary than that of a parrot I read about a few years ago,  but still quite interesting!

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2016,03:26   

The sparrow with four sexes

(original non-tinyurl link: http://www.nature.com/news.........21018)

Edited by sparc on Nov. 24 2016,03:27

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jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2017,13:27   

Hi all, it's been a while since I last posted here. I thought I should mention some new paper of ours that's been quoted by IDers as some proof against "darwinian speciation":

https://www.evolutionnews.org/2017.......ciation
???

This is the paper in question.
http://www.pnas.org/content....4.short

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2017,14:45   

I guess insects doing horizontal transfers bugs some people?

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2017,12:34   

Quote (jeannot @ April 27 2017,11:27)
This is the paper in question.
http://www.pnas.org/content....4.short

Thanks for the heads up.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 24 2017,19:25   

Ima just leave this here.

ETA money shot: "Scientists theorize alternate universe where people listen to them."

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