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Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,11:35    Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32) Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science! Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. All praise the God of small engine repairs (aka miracles).

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,12:11    Quote I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. For UD, that's like an actual science experiment.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,12:29    Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,12:11) Quote I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. For UD, that's like an actual science experiment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....bSMnJko -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,12:41    Quote 137 PaVSeptember 29, 2016 at 11:27 am wd400: Quote I can’t believe I have to say this again, but no one is claiming CO2 is the only influence on climate. Just the one that is responsible for recent warming. Framed like what a true Darwinist would do in the face of contradicting evidence. But, wd400, CO2 keeps going up, and temperatures, as reliably measured by satellites, have been the same for 20 years. And computer models can’t ‘correct’; any error present at the beginning, only gets worse. To see how a model either gets it right, or is forever wrong, here’s something I linked to before: 2001 Graph from NASA. The AGW argument was wrong from the beginning. And now there’s proof that it is wrong: the temperatures themselves. temperatures have been the same for 20 years you dumb darwinists.

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,12:58    I'm praying for the glaciers.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,13:14    Quote (Woodbine @ Sep. 29 2016,10:58) I'm praying for the glaciers. Put outboard motors on them and you might get a response. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,13:59    Quote War on cancer could benefit from design perspective? September 29, 2016 Posted by News under Cell biology, Intelligent Design, Medicine, News No Comments From Oregon State U: Quote Researchers have discovered a mechanism of intercellular communication that helps explain how biological systems and actions – ranging from a beating heart to the ability to hit a home run – function properly most of the time, and in some scenarios quite remarkably. So some people who never do any research, and sit around on a blog explaining how Jesus fixed their boat engine, think the people at Oregon State, who are doing productive scientific research, would really benefit from thinking more like the bloggers. durr Edited by stevestory on Sep. 29 2016,14:59

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,14:05    Quote 7 Barry ArringtonSeptember 29, 2016 at 12:42 pm Quote When we are asked why eggs turn to birds or fruits fall in autumn, we must answer exactly as the fairy godmother would answer if Cinderella asked her why mice turned to horses or her clothes fell from her at twelve o’clock. We must answer that it is MAGIC. It is not a ‘law,’ for we do not understand its general formula. It is not a necessity, for though we can count on it happening practically, we have no right to say that it must always happen. It is no argument for unalterable law (as Huxley fancied) that we count on the ordinary course of things. We do not count on it; we bet on it. We risk the remote possibility of a miracle as we do that of a poisoned pancake or a world-destroying comet. We leave it out of account, not because it is a miracle, and therefore an impossibility, but because it is a miracle, and therefore an exception. All the terms used in the science books, ‘law,’ ‘necessity,’ ‘order,’ ‘tendency,’ and so on, are really unintellectual, because they assume an inner synthesis, which we do not possess. The only words that ever satisfied me as describing Nature are the terms used in the fairy books, ‘charm,’ ‘spell,’ ‘enchantment.’ They express the arbitrariness of the fact and its mystery. A tree grows fruit because it is a MAGIC tree. Water runs downhill because it is bewitched. G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy The point Chesterton makes is both obvious and irrefutable. Yet it somehow escapes our materialist friends. Barry's probly proud of this shit.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,14:25    Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32)   Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!   Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. It was Satan who clogged that jet!

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,14:25    Quote 8 Truth Will Set You FreeSeptember 29, 2016 at 1:07 pm BA @ 7: “The point Chesterton makes is both obvious and irrefutable. Yet it somehow escapes our materialist friends.” Why does this “obvious and irrefutable” truth escape them? The short answer can be found in 2 Thessalonians 2:11. The groundbreaking new Intelligent Design science is coming fast and furious these days. durr

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,14:43    Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 29 2016,12:25) Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32)   Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!     Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. It was Satan who clogged that jet! Because the designer of billions of galaxies gives a crap about two guys in a boat. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,14:52    It's miraculous that we exist! Only if we didn't exist would we have reason to doubt that there is a God. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,15:02    Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,14:05) Quote 7 Barry ArringtonSeptember 29, 2016 at 12:42 pm Quote When we are asked why eggs turn to birds or fruits fall in autumn, we must answer exactly as the fairy godmother would answer if Cinderella asked her why mice turned to horses or her clothes fell from her at twelve o’clock. We must answer that it is MAGIC. It is not a ‘law,’ for we do not understand its general formula. It is not a necessity, for though we can count on it happening practically, we have no right to say that it must always happen. It is no argument for unalterable law (as Huxley fancied) that we count on the ordinary course of things. We do not count on it; we bet on it. We risk the remote possibility of a miracle as we do that of a poisoned pancake or a world-destroying comet. We leave it out of account, not because it is a miracle, and therefore an impossibility, but because it is a miracle, and therefore an exception. All the terms used in the science books, ‘law,’ ‘necessity,’ ‘order,’ ‘tendency,’ and so on, are really unintellectual, because they assume an inner synthesis, which we do not possess. The only words that ever satisfied me as describing Nature are the terms used in the fairy books, ‘charm,’ ‘spell,’ ‘enchantment.’ They express the arbitrariness of the fact and its mystery. A tree grows fruit because it is a MAGIC tree. Water runs downhill because it is bewitched. G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy The point Chesterton makes is both obvious and irrefutable. Yet it somehow escapes our materialist friends. Barry's probly proud of this shit. And we've wasted all of this time and resources actually looking into why eggs hatch into birds or fruits fall in autumn, only to learn nothing.   Had we researched the production of the proper magic wands (or ID gee-whiz numbers) we'd be far ahead of where we are now. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,15:36    Quote (Glen Davidson @ Sep. 29 2016,16:02) Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,14:05) Quote 7 Barry ArringtonSeptember 29, 2016 at 12:42 pm   Quote When we are asked why eggs turn to birds or fruits fall in autumn, we must answer exactly as the fairy godmother would answer if Cinderella asked her why mice turned to horses or her clothes fell from her at twelve o’clock. We must answer that it is MAGIC. It is not a ‘law,’ for we do not understand its general formula. It is not a necessity, for though we can count on it happening practically, we have no right to say that it must always happen. It is no argument for unalterable law (as Huxley fancied) that we count on the ordinary course of things. We do not count on it; we bet on it. We risk the remote possibility of a miracle as we do that of a poisoned pancake or a world-destroying comet. We leave it out of account, not because it is a miracle, and therefore an impossibility, but because it is a miracle, and therefore an exception. All the terms used in the science books, ‘law,’ ‘necessity,’ ‘order,’ ‘tendency,’ and so on, are really unintellectual, because they assume an inner synthesis, which we do not possess. The only words that ever satisfied me as describing Nature are the terms used in the fairy books, ‘charm,’ ‘spell,’ ‘enchantment.’ They express the arbitrariness of the fact and its mystery. A tree grows fruit because it is a MAGIC tree. Water runs downhill because it is bewitched. G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy The point Chesterton makes is both obvious and irrefutable. Yet it somehow escapes our materialist friends. Barry's probly proud of this shit. And we've wasted all of this time and resources actually looking into why eggs hatch into birds or fruits fall in autumn, only to learn nothing.   Had we researched the production of the proper magic wands (or ID gee-whiz numbers) we'd be far ahead of where we are now. Glen Davidson Yup.  With egg on our faces and cursing fig trees for not bearing out of season.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,17:34    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 29 2016,11:35) Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32) Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!   Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. All praise the God of small engine repairs (aka miracles). Too bad those kids in Aleppo don't have boat motors.  But it's nice that William's god has time for him. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,17:57    Quote (Texas Teach @ Sep. 29 2016,15:34) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 29 2016,11:35)   Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32)   Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!     Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. All praise the God of small engine repairs (aka miracles). Too bad those kids in Aleppo don't have boat motors.  But it's nice that William's god has time for him. Earth: War! God: Earth: Disease! God: Earth: Famine! God: Earth: Poverty! God: Earth: Dodgy low-speed jet on my carburetor! God: Poof! -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,19:43    mysterious ways, and the like.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2016,20:33    Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 29 2016,14:25) Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32)   Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!     Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. It was Satan who clogged that jet! My money is on god clogging the engine because bfast was having unnatural desires towards his fishing buddy.

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2016,05:50    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 29 2016,20:33)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 29 2016,14:25)   Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32)       Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!       Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. It was Satan who clogged that jet! My money is on god clogging the engine because bfast was having unnatural desires towards his fishing buddy. -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

fusilier Posts: 252 Joined: Feb. 2003 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2016,06:43    Quote (Lethean @ Sep. 30 2016,06:50) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 29 2016,20:33)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 29 2016,14:25)     Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32)       Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!         Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. It was Satan who clogged that jet! My money is on god clogging the engine because bfast was having unnatural desires towards his fishing buddy. POTW Hell, POT MONTH! -------------- fusilier James 2:24

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2016,07:23    Quote (Lethean @ Sep. 30 2016,11:50)

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2016,12:01    Quote (Lethean @ Sep. 30 2016,05:50) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 29 2016,20:33)     Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 29 2016,14:25)     Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32)         Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!         Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. It was Satan who clogged that jet! My money is on god clogging the engine because bfast was having unnatural desires towards his fishing buddy. Since you are obviously refering to Gordon Mullings: Did Barry withdraw KairosFocus's posting privileges? According to UD's archives his latest post is from February. Or did I miss another constitutional crisis on Montserrat? Edited by sparc on Sep. 30 2016,12:01 -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2016,12:30    Quote (sparc @ Sep. 30 2016,12:01) Quote (Lethean @ Sep. 30 2016,05:50)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Sep. 29 2016,20:33)     Quote (CeilingCat @ Sep. 29 2016,14:25)       Quote (JohnW @ Sep. 29 2016,11:32)         Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2016,09:05) The Ubiquitous Miracles Of Our Existence September 29, 2016 Posted by William J Murray under Intelligent Design 1 Comment i can't keep up with all the ID science these days Moar science!           Quote 1  bFast  September 29, 2016 at 9:38 am “I’m not aware of a god blatantly intervening in the world, as some people say happens.” Hmmm. I was just out on a river hunting with a friend. One day our outboard motor refused to start. Both my friend and I are rather mechanical, so we worked on the problem. We found that we could get the motor to start if we had lots of throttle on. In fact, it would run fast very well. However, it would immediately die when we tried to slow it to an idle. This was a particular problem because you had to slow it to an idle to shift from neutral to drive. Our mechanical sense cased us to conclude that the low speed jet in the carburetor was plugged. We decided to overhaul the carburetor in the field. However, we didn’t have sufficient tools to remove the carb so that we could work on it. We were hooped. I said to my friend, “let me try something”. I prayed a quick prayer asking Jesus to fix the motor, and I pulled the cord. Vrooom. First pull. And the problem was gone forever. I kinda agree with daveS. If my God didn’t sometimes blatantly intervene in my world, I really doubt that I would be one of his followers. It was Satan who clogged that jet! My money is on god clogging the engine because bfast was having unnatural desires towards his fishing buddy. Since you are obviously refering to Gordon Mullings: Did Barry withdraw KairosFocus's posting privileges? According to UD's archives his latest post is from February. Or did I miss another constitutional crisis on Montserrat? He posted an OP on Sept 13.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 01 2016,08:51    Quote 102 daveSOctober 1, 2016 at 7:47 am KF, So I gather your answer to my question in #88 is that yes, God cannot create complete infinities because that is logically impossible. This does surprise me a little. It doesn’t seem as obviously logically impossible to me as creating a square circle. I think quite a few eminent Christian thinkers in the past have actually believed the universe to be infinite, so the impossibility wasn’t obvious to them either. For my part, I didn’t know there was any obvious problem with God creating an infinite collection of things all at once, rather than one (or maybe finitely many) at a time, as if counting through N. lol Edited by stevestory on Oct. 02 2016,00:15

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 01 2016,20:39    Conservative theists think they can out-logic the being they claim designed and invented logic.   Pay them no heed, for they are tards, unable to work out the consequences of their own beliefs.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 01 2016,23:19    Quote (CeilingCat @ Oct. 01 2016,21:39) Conservative theists think they can out-logic the being they claim designed and invented logic.   Pay them no heed, for they are tards, unable to work out the consequences of their own beliefs. Anything of the form "Lemme take my Monkey++ brain and cogitate for a few moments and then inform you specifically of what the Super-Incomprehensible Being Who Created Everything Ever must necessarily be like and do." should be quickly dismissed, and probly set on fire, with posterity in mind.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 02 2016,22:30    Quote Hugh Ross: Worldview implications of gravitational waves Posted by News under Cosmology, Physics, Religion, Science From Hugh Ross at Salvo: ... Inevitably, worldviews will come into play, but scientific testing can and should overcome preconceived ideas. How did our universe come to exist? Was it by chance? For a fair-minded person, the understanding to be gained by these advances promises to remove any remaining doubts about the validity of the biblically predicted big bang creation model. Science all the way.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 02 2016,22:44    Boy, the ol' creative juices at UD are really fermenting.  This is BornAgain77 quoting that giant of intellects, William Lane Craig:   Quote Mathematics and Physics – A Happy Coincidence? – Dr. Craig – video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....AA4dgGg 1. If God did not exist the applicability of mathematics would be a happy coincidence. 2. The applicability of mathematics is not a happy coincidence. 3. Therefore, God exists. You'll have to follow the link for the verse and music to go along with that.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2016,00:06    Quote (CeilingCat @ Oct. 02 2016,23:44) Boy, the ol' creative juices at UD are really fermenting.  This is BornAgain77 quoting that giant of intellects, William Lane Craig:   Quote Mathematics and Physics – A Happy Coincidence? – Dr. Craig – video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....AA4dgGg 1. If God did not exist the applicability of mathematics would be a happy coincidence. 2. The applicability of mathematics is not a happy coincidence. 3. Therefore, God exists. You'll have to follow the link for the verse and music to go along with that. Quote 1. If God did not exist the applicability of mathematics would be a happy coincidence. Gibberish. Quote 2. The applicability of mathematics is not a happy coincidence. Gibberish. Quote 3. Therefore, God exists. is there a Bulwer-Lytton contest for attempts at logic?

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2016,10:27    Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 03 2016,00:06) is there a Bulwer-Lytton contest for attempts at logic? The Nimoy-Quinto contest?

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