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olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,18:10   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 12 2012,18:02)
Hey UDers,

In case you're wondering, yes, eigenstate did respond to Barry, and Barry is lying. Eigenstate preserved his response here, rightly anticipating that Barry might delete it. One of you who is more honest than Barry should post the link on the LNC thread.  Barry might delete it (and you), but you'll know you've done the right thing.

And if AtBC gives you the vapors,  the reply is also cross-posted on Elizabeth Liddle's site: Law of non-contradiction (“LNC” to its friends).

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,18:16   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 12 2012,19:02)
Hey UDers,

In case you're wondering, yes, eigenstate did respond to Barry, and Barry is lying. Eigenstate preserved his response here, rightly anticipating that Barry might delete it. One of you who is more honest than Barry should post the link on the LNC thread.  Barry might delete it (and you), but you'll know you've done the right thing.

I love UD

someone should sock up as "Jupiter" LMFAO

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,18:17   

has anyone registered a new sockpuppet there yet?  I could imagine barry getting his ass cheeks so tightly clinched that he caps enrollment

hey barry don't let me give you any ideas old chap you never had an original thought in your life, your hair died for lack of company

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,18:28   

UDers,

If you think Barry is just having a bad couple of days, think again.  This dishonest behavior has been going on for years.  Check out this episode from 2006, wherein Barry lies about what his opponents have said, then edits one comment and deletes another in an attempted coverup:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....t-60656

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,18:39   

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well, frankly you wouldn't let it go and you were cluttering the thread and thereby making it less useful; and 2. I was, frankly, embarrassed for you (not by you, for you).


so, i frankly edited out the comment where i was embarassed by you embarrassed for you because it was making me look like an asshole cluttering the thread, frankly

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keiths



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,18:45   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 12 2012,16:02)
Hey UDers,

In case you're wondering, yes, eigenstate did respond to Barry, and Barry is lying. Eigenstate preserved his response here, rightly anticipating that Barry might delete it. One of you who is more honest than Barry should post the link on the LNC thread.  Barry might delete it (and you), but you'll know you've done the right thing.

Hey nullasalus, you were pretty hard on Elizabeth Liddle for not speaking up about AtBC:
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If you’d like things to be lively, I suggest you have a look at the antievolution.org forum. Particularly the thread relating to UD.

Then do this: compared the behavior on that thread to the behavior here, by admins and posters alike. Also, notice if Liddle is outraged – outraged! – at what’s going on in that thread. Or if she behaves like a good little girl who keeps her mouth shut and tolerates, or even encourages, what goes on there.

When can we expect you to post a comment at UD condemning Barry's behavior?  Surely you won't be a 'good little boy' who keeps his mouth shut and tolerates such behavior, right?

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,18:49   

And for anyone from UD who is interested in discussing Barry's LNC OP with eigenstate and others of us who can no longer post at UD, you are all very welcome to this thread at The Skeptical Zone.

That includes you, Barry :)

Feel free to cross link any posts back to UD if you like.  It's slighly odd communicating by megaphone from different sites, but there's no reason why it shouldn't work.

ETA: I see olegt has already linked.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,19:51   

Done.  I'm just sacrificing myself as encouragement NOT to go to UD anymore.




P.S.  anyone watching can let me know if I've been banned or not.

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,20:11   

Did Charles just disprove the existence of the God of the Bible--or a mechanism to cause God to look away?

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Certainly there is some scriptural justification for the interpretation of God being the observer who sustains all (Heb 1:3) and holds all things together (Col 1:17).

However, at the quantum level, our earthly experiments demonstrate that we mere mortals can by “observation” (i.e measurement) alter the outcome of a photon’s passage through a slit. But that would seem to necessitate that while we “observe”, God ‘looks away’ so as to not disrupt our observation.

  
olegt



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,20:18   

StephenB is one hilarious nutter:
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–Petrushka: “The problem is that what physics measures doesn’t always conform to the elements of formal logic.”

That is not true at all. Don’t believe everything that uneducated, postmodern scientists tell you.

Will he venture outside UD's gates to Elizabeth's web site? I doubt it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,20:31   

Quote (olegt @ Feb. 12 2012,18:18)
StephenB is one hilarious nutter:
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–Petrushka: “The problem is that what physics measures doesn’t always conform to the elements of formal logic.”

That is not true at all. Don’t believe everything that uneducated, postmodern scientists tell you.

Will he venture outside UD's gates to Elizabeth's web site? I doubt it.

kuartus, who is an ID supporter, refers StephenB over here:

Quote (kuartus @ Feb 12, 2012 20:22)
StephenB,

What do you make of eigenstates answer over at Atbc?


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,21:21   

Part of StephenB's response to eigenstate:  
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Statistics cannot measure the “probability” that something can exist and not exist at the same time and under the same formal circumstances. It isn’t a probability question at all; it is a yes or no question based on logical “possibilities.”

Does this make sense? I'm leaning towards 'yes and no'.

eta: Response time is limited per SB:
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This is nonsense at the highest possible level. As I often point out, the lights are going out in Western Civilization. I really don’t know how much time we have left.


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,21:54   

Quote (paragwinn @ Feb. 13 2012,03:21)
eta: Response time is limited per SB:  
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This is nonsense at the highest possible level. As I often point out, the lights are going out in Western Civilization. I really don’t know how much time we have left.

His sandwich board says the same thing.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,22:00   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 13 2012,12:51)
Done.  I'm just sacrificing myself as encouragement NOT to go to UD anymore.




P.S.  anyone watching can let me know if I've been banned or not.

And yea, it came to pass:

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ogreMk5 is no longer with us.


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,22:07   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Feb. 12 2012,22:00)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 13 2012,12:51)
Done.  I'm just sacrificing myself as encouragement NOT to go to UD anymore.




P.S.  anyone watching can let me know if I've been banned or not.

And yea, it came to pass:

 
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ogreMk5 is no longer with us.

I've been banned!  Yay me.

I'm sure Joe will spend all of his time posting things from my blog on UD now that I can't answer him.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,22:11   

StephenB:
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Incidentally, a blogger named Keiths (didn’t he hang out with us for a while), at the website in question, points out that a five-year-old would know that a physical object cannot exist and not exist at the same time. Indeed.

That same blogger challenges Barry to learn some quantum mechanics, arguing that superposition can invalidate the laws of logic. Well, I am prepared to debate that point, but I would first ask Keiths the following question: How does the five year old KNOW (rightly so) that a physical object cannot exist and not exist at the same time? Anybody?

StephenB,

That was olegt, not me. (I see your reading comprehension is about as good as your reasoning).  Why don't you come over here, where discussion is free and open, and see if you can defend your ideas against Oleg and the rest of us, without Barry's protection?

We'd love to have you.  We'd even give you your very own thread here, as is our custom.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,22:40   

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<span style='font-family:Comic Sans MS'>?Petrushka: ?The problem is that what physics measures doesn?t always conform to the elements of formal logic.?

That is not true at all. Don?t believe everything that uneducated, postmodern scientists tell you.</span>

Well of course measurements don't conform to formal logic. Logic is about relationships among statements; measurement is generating a statement from an observed magnitude of something.

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2012,22:59   

Quote (paragwinn @ Feb. 12 2012,21:21)
Part of StephenB's response to eigenstate:    
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Statistics cannot measure the “probability” that something can exist and not exist at the same time and under the same formal circumstances. It isn’t a probability question at all; it is a yes or no question based on logical “possibilities.”

Does this make sense? I'm leaning towards 'yes and no'.

We can plot the answer on a Bloch-head sphere.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,00:49   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 12 2012,18:28)
UDers,

If you think Barry is just having a bad couple of days, think again.  This dishonest behavior has been going on for years.  Check out this episode from 2006, wherein Barry lies about what his opponents have said, then edits one comment and deletes another in an attempted coverup:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....t-60656

Barry's been a dishonest bully for a lot longer than that.

This story from 1997, for instance:  
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The thin-skinned Arrington, after winning the election, slapped Palmer and Burton with a lawsuit, asking for a public apology and $10,000 because they'd called him a bully. The suit, which has been inching toward a settlement, had an immediate chilling effect on Arrington's foes.

The amazing self-refuting SLAP suit.

If you can't ban 'em, sue 'em.

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,00:55   

Quote (paragwinn @ Feb. 12 2012,21:21)
Part of StephenB's response to eigenstate:      
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Statistics cannot measure the “probability” that something can exist and not exist at the same time and under the same formal circumstances. It isn’t a probability question at all; it is a yes or no question based on logical “possibilities.”

Does this make sense? I'm leaning towards 'yes and no'.

eta: Response time is limited per SB:    
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This is nonsense at the highest possible level. As I often point out, the lights are going out in Western Civilization. I really don’t know how much time we have left.

Very little time - about until evolution crumbles.  First the sun turns into a red giant and swallows the earth, then ...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,01:32   

Perhaps the UDers got their QM from the Columbia Institute of Quantum Mechanics:


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,03:36   

Quote (Raevmo @ Feb. 12 2012,11:36)
Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 12 2012,12:28)
 
Quote (REC @ Feb. 11 2012,19:54)
Watching from a distance might be more fun:

From KF-
   
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ES; If you have done any significant experimental work, you will know that we routinely trichotomise observed effects, on investigator intervention, random scatter and laws of necessity, just for one instance.


1) KF has done significant experimental work?
2) WTF is "trichotomise?" Is that like lobotimize X3? Or one more than a dichotomy?
3) How does one 'intervene' with a 'law of necessity?" The only use I know of for law of necessity is legal/ethical in terms of self-preservation

Random paragraph generator?

In response to number 1: NO.

I've done some serious digging to see if gordo has ever done anything besides spewing dictatorial sermons and condemning atheists/evolutionary materialists/methodological naturalists, etc., and I've found just one thing that he was involved in in any way. It's just a very basic outline for the next several years that the government of Montserrat drew up a couple of years ago and it has a list of contributors at the end and gordo is listed as a "consultant". Frankly, I think that they were just being nice by adding his name and that "consultant" sounded better than 'irritating, obnoxious, meddling asshole'.

If he were anywhere near as important as he thinks and says he is there would be papers, projects, plans, etc., that would have his name in them. I've looked at Montserrat and Jamaica government records, government employees, science projects in those countries, projects that have to do with the volcano and the environment in Montserrat, engineering and construction projects in Montserrat and Jamaica, and all kinds of other stuff including, but not limited to, the names of business owners, other business directories, phone books, and all of the news outlets, websites, and forums that pertain to Montserrat and other Caribbean Islands. He's virtually a ghost, except on some blogs where he has puked up tons of convoluted vomit.

I don't believe that he even has a job as a janitor, let alone a job of any kind in science. He also likes to call himself a physicist, yet he has no track record in that either. From what I've seen, I think that he must get his money from fleecing gullible sheeple, and/or from welfare. Chances are, he gets disability payments because he's way too aggravating and mentally deranged to be hired by anyone.

gordo is a phony baloney liar and bullshitter, and is nowhere near being a scientist or physicist. All he does is sit in his basement and spew his bile on the internet. And it's likely his mom's basement.

By the way, in case anyone is wondering, Montserrat has a population of about 4500 people. That's for the whole island. If gordo were prominent there, his name would be prominent there.

I believe Gordon really does have an MSc in physics from some Jamaican university. I once Googled him and found a link to his thesis - something about a multi-channel device of some kind if memory serves. He is obviously crazy but he is not entirely unintelligent. A bit like Hitler if you like.

It appears that he does have an MSc, but from what I've found he hasn't done anything since then but spew his insanity on the internet.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,03:57   

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 12 2012,22:11)
StephenB:
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Incidentally, a blogger named Keiths (didn’t he hang out with us for a while), at the website in question, points out that a five-year-old would know that a physical object cannot exist and not exist at the same time. Indeed.

That same blogger challenges Barry to learn some quantum mechanics, arguing that superposition can invalidate the laws of logic. Well, I am prepared to debate that point, but I would first ask Keiths the following question: How does the five year old KNOW (rightly so) that a physical object cannot exist and not exist at the same time? Anybody?

StephenB,

That was olegt, not me. (I see your reading comprehension is about as good as your reasoning).  Why don't you come over here, where discussion is free and open, and see if you can defend your ideas against Oleg and the rest of us, without Barry's protection?

We'd love to have you.  We'd even give you your very own thread here, as is our custom.

If anyone here is still alive over there, perhaps they could post a link to the LNC thread on The Skeptical Zone:

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....7

in case people don't want to click on AtBC :)

In particular, I notice that Bruce David is on that thread, and it would be sort of nice if he knew where we'd got to.  He's a decent guy.

Actually it would be good if some ID-supporting UD lurkers knew where we'd got to.  At least one has turned up at TSZ, and it would be great if a few more would follow.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,04:12   

Someone challenges KF to stand up and be counted:  
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KF,
 
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I would be interested to see such, if it exists.

I agree and I am glad to see that eigenstates response was cross posted at Elizabeth Liddles site here. It certainly seems odd that his reply didn’t get through here although I see that several people have attempted to post links from this thread to eigenstates reply for you and others to see. Unfortunately is seems those comments have also disappeared.

We could be uncharitable to eigenstate and conclude that he didn’t actually post his reply here, but simply claimed to have, then claimed to have been banned in order to smear the moderators of this blog. But as you charitably pointed out it could also be a simple error on his part, or an error in the site – I would imagine that given Mr Arringtons statement above that eigenstate would be given the right to post the first comment, some system would have been put in place for this thread to place all comments in moderation until eigenstates appeared in the que, and could be published. Perhaps this system was to blame.

On the other hand we have the problem of commentators linking to eigenstates reply being banned, and the comments vanishing. We might infer from this that Mr Arrington is being less than honest, perhaps even that he simply decided to pretend that eigenstate never posted a reply in order to smear eigenstate. It would be truly sad if this were the case and I hope that distinguished contributors like yourself would be brave enough to stand up to this type of behaviour – although I understand that it would probably get you banned as well (assuming that the inference about Mr Arrington was correct of course).

With that in mind I will try an experiment – posted below is eigenstates reply, which he claimed to have posted here already. If this post of mine disappears, and I am banned, we have more reason to infer that Mr Arrington is, for whatever reason, playing games rather than pursuing honest debate. In which case I would encourage you to try the experiment yourself, post eigenstates reply here, and see if it (and perhaps you) remain on this site!

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Eigenstates reply was included, and a link to it on Elizabeths site.

Barry is probably asleep right now, hopefully that will mean the comment persists long enough for KF and others to have good look.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,04:26   

Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 12 2012,19:16)
What's wrong with this picture? arrington is bitching about an alleged lack of freedom of speech (for christians), yet look at his draconian moderation at UD. He obviously doesn't like gay people either, and of course wants to legislate away any freedoms for them and anyone else he doesn't approve of.  

arrington farted:

"I am currently reading Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg, in which he makes a strong case that liberalism (modern liberalism, not classical liberalism) should be placed on the same pole of the political spectrum as fascism, not the opposite pole as is commonly done, because there is a strong authoritarian/totalitarian streak running through modern liberalism/progressivism.

Ironically, those liberals and progressives who agitate most strongly for “personal autonomy”
when they are pushing for special civil rights protections for persons engaging in deviant sexual behavior,
really only believe in personal autonomy for their friends. If you try to express views counter to theirs, they will use every means at their disposal to silence you.

Witness the so-called civil rights commissions in your country, which have effectively made it a crime to teach certain parts of the Christian scriptures."

insane prudish tard

And speaking of "authoritarian/totalitarian", look at a mirror, and at your fellow religious zombies, barry.

These librul heathens?


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,04:31   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Feb. 13 2012,06:59)
Quote (paragwinn @ Feb. 12 2012,21:21)
Part of StephenB's response to eigenstate:    
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Statistics cannot measure the “probability” that something can exist and not exist at the same time and under the same formal circumstances. It isn’t a probability question at all; it is a yes or no question based on logical “possibilities.”

Does this make sense? I'm leaning towards 'yes and no'.

We can plot the answer on a Bloch-head sphere.

phht

It's a Bloch on the landscape

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,04:34   

the whole truth
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It appears that he does have an MSc, but from what I've found he hasn't done anything since then but spew his insanity on the internet.

According to Wikipedia, Montserrat got clobbered by hurricane Hugo in 1989.  140 MPH winds damaged 90% of the structures on the island and killed the tourist trade.

In 1995, the Soufriere Hills volcano, which had been dormant for centuries, erupted.  It covered the capitol, Plymouth, in more than 12 metres (39 ft) of mud, destroyed its airport and docking facilities, and rendered the southern half of the island uninhabitable.  Half the population left the island.

Today, the population is 5,879 (down from 13,000) and there are virtually no jobs.  The island is supported by the British government to the tune of 25 million pounds per year or about 4,200 pounds per inhabitant, about $6500 USD.

I imagine Gordon manages to snag some part of that.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,04:35   

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Quote (keiths @ Feb. 12 2012,19:02)
Hey UDers,

In case you're wondering, yes, eigenstate did respond to Barry, and Barry is lying. Eigenstate preserved his response here, rightly anticipating that Barry might delete it. One of you who is more honest than Barry should post the link on the LNC thread.  Barry might delete it (and you), but you'll know you've done the right thing.

I love UD

someone should sock up as "Jupiter" LMFAO

Would

Luke N. Contrador be obvious?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,06:27   

With the new paper on Peppered Moths in mind, check this out:

arrington the arrogant IDiot

And notice that the ban hammer comes out in comment number 13.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2012,06:30   

The "no longer with us" search: http://www.google.co.uk/search?....h+us%22

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