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IBelieveInGod Posts: 68 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,11:18    Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 06 2011,11:10) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,10:59) Abortion? How many innocent babies have been killed since Roe v. Wade? try   49,551,703 Another red herring... abortion is done by Christians as well as non-Christians. So, you think it's OK to murder doctors who perform abortions? So, you think it's OK to perform violence, including murder, to prevent abortion... which is the law of the land*? * And don't start on "God's Law supercedes Man's Law", don't forget that the Bible says you should follow the Law of the Land... or is that metaphorical too? But abortion is a secular agenda, I have never seen abortion promoted by churches. You seem to think that just because there are Christians having abortions that it somehow makes not a secular agenda. And no I don't agree with violence of any kind against abortion clinics, doctors, etc... So, tell me how many have been killed by violence against abortion clinics and doctors? I've already shown that over 49 million babies have been killed.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,11:28    Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,11:18) So, tell me how many have been killed by violence against abortion clinics and doctors? I've already shown that over 49 million babies have been killed. What, exactly, is the connection between those two things? -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,11:29    IBIG, If abortion was illegal, as I presume you would like it to be, what would be your suggested punishment for those who have illegal abortions? -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,11:53    Biggy, you are a historical ignoramus. Besides all the openly religious wars, of which there have been a sufficient number presented, we may also include every war in which both sides declared that your imaginary friend was on their side.  Guess how many of 'em that was? Christians have done an awful lot of killing in their time, and justified it by their faith.  There is no dodging that bullet at all, my son. Hitler was Catholic, son.  There's no dodging that bullet, either.  Christianity is the primary source of Jewish persecution in history, period.  Go look at the Tsarist pogroms in the Ukraine in the 20th Century and tell me what separates those good Orthodox Christian boys from Hitler's SS. But there is one black mark on the record that didn't make the list (albeit on a technicality): the T'ai Ping Rebellion, China, 1850's.  You can tell how bad it was because the estimates of the people killed by that range from a conservative low of 20 million up to 30 million or so. That one was started by a failed bureaucrat who got a little of the Christian heaven on his mind.  It is spared association with your imaginary friend only because it also got filtered through enough Chinese assumptions that the result was more of a Joseph Smith / Reverend Moon thing...but if you'd asked his followers, guess what they would have told you they were?  Christians.  (This may have helped fuel the Righteous Harmony Fist's bad attitude a few decades later, but I have yet to find anything linking the two, and there was enough to spark the Boxer Rebellion as it was.) Feh.  Even Confucius's goose would be better at this. The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

brobotsb2 Posts: 9 Joined: Jan. 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,12:15    Just for you, little traitors… we're this far from nuking all of you.... http://www.skepticality.com/forum....-1-2011

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,12:36    Ah, IBIG, here's one of your fellow Christians now. Why don't you explain to him how misguided he is... after all, he's promoting violence to remove atheism.  That can't be good and just and God's plan can it? I've got a side bet that you will never engage whatshisface. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,12:38    Ok. Enough of this happy horseshit. I've had it. Time for these religious folks to start telling the truth. I reckon they're hiding something. I reckon they know about who is REALLY running things on this planet. Time to stop beating about the bush. Come on IBIG, tell us about Satan and demonic influences. You know THAT is what is going on. Tell us the truth man. Louis -------------- Bye.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,12:40    Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,11:18) Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 06 2011,11:10) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,10:59) Abortion? How many innocent babies have been killed since Roe v. Wade? try   49,551,703 Another red herring... abortion is done by Christians as well as non-Christians. So, you think it's OK to murder doctors who perform abortions? So, you think it's OK to perform violence, including murder, to prevent abortion... which is the law of the land*? * And don't start on "God's Law supercedes Man's Law", don't forget that the Bible says you should follow the Law of the Land... or is that metaphorical too? But abortion is a secular agenda, I have never seen abortion promoted by churches. You seem to think that just because there are Christians having abortions that it somehow makes not a secular agenda. And no I don't agree with violence of any kind against abortion clinics, doctors, etc... So, tell me how many have been killed by violence against abortion clinics and doctors? I've already shown that over 49 million babies have been killed. And how many babies died at Sodom and Gomorah?  And how many babies died during the Great Flood? An entire planet's worth dude... an entire freaking planet... and what's funnier than anything is that God's wrath and wiping the planet clean DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING.  It was a total waste of time, effort, and lifes... because God got pissed off... a perfectly benign, omniscient being got pissed off.  Very interesting. IBIG, have you reflected on my question?  Have you asked youself how much damage you have done here to your own faith (not personal faith, but your religion as a whole)?  No, I'm shocked... -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:29    Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,12:16) madpanda- we are going to torture you and get that atheism out of your deluded little head.. You're dumber than advertised, Mabus.  Have you tried reasoned argument instead of empty threats?  Didn't think so. How are your headaches doing?  Should I have Igor up the voltage on the power drills? The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:30    Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,10:19) Quote Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,10:01) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 05 2011,20:11)   Quote Tell me how many people have been slaughtered by Atheistic Countries, or none Christian countries? You seem to think that those who follow God are the problem. I also have a problem with Religion, and there are many Religions, but there is only one true God, only one that we can have a Relationship with. What an ignorant question that completely misses the point. What country or countries have ever slaughtered people  in the name of atheism? Any? No. Not a one. In fact, I can't think of any single person who's ever been killed in the name of atheism. Yet billions of people have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity alone. Try again, IBIG. Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history Well, that would be your opinion and that's not worth much. Quote Provide your sources the billions have been killed in the name of Christianity? http://articles.exchristian.net/2002....-by.php http://www.ctlibrary.com/ch/1996/issue49/4937.html http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm That's a good start. You can add up the numbers whenever you wish. -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:32    Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 06 2011,12:36) Ah, IBIG, here's one of your fellow Christians now. Why don't you explain to him how misguided he is... after all, he's promoting violence to remove atheism.  That can't be good and just and God's plan can it? I've got a side bet that you will never engage whatshisface. For a change, I'm not going to tease Biggy about his reluctance to deal with the other idiot.  Even Biggy isn't so monumentally stupid as to imagine that there's anything to work with on the other end to that connection.  (That he cannot or will not recognize that there isn't a great deal of difference between his delusions and those of Mabus is beside the point.) On the other hand, I didn't think Biggy would ever have the guts and integrity to come here instead of vomiting all over the BW, so I could very well be in error (again). The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:38    [quote=IBelieveInGod,Jan. 06 2011,10:56][/quote] Quote Did you read the link that I posted? I read the error-filled link. The problem is, once again you aren't paying attention. Neither Mao Zadong nor Stalin killed in the name of atheism. Hitler, OTOH, actually killed in the name of Christianity.  D'Souza, once again, just demonstrates his ignorance. -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:45    Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,11:18) Quote But abortion is a secular agenda, I have never seen abortion promoted by churches. You seem to think that just because there are Christians having abortions that it somehow makes not a secular agenda. Abortion is not a "secular agenda" - what ignorance. Abortion is a medical procedure provided for health and well-being. It isn't even a "promoted" procedure, unlike say...plastic surgery and LASIK, so I have no idea what you're going on about. And Ogre's right...the fact is Christians use the procedure, along with Muslims, Jews, Hindis, Buddhists, agnostics, deists, and atheists, among others. So your argument has no validity. But of course this even completely misses the point - abortions are NOT done in the name of atheism so your claim is moot anyway. -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:48    Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,11:45) [quote=IBelieveInGod,Jan. 06 2011,11:18][/quote] Quote But abortion is a secular agenda, I have never seen abortion promoted by churches. You seem to think that just because there are Christians having abortions that it somehow makes not a secular agenda. Abortion is not a "secular agenda" - what ignorance. Abortion is a medical procedure provided for health and well-being. It isn't even a "promoted" procedure, unlike say...plastic surgery and LASIK, so I have no idea what you're going on about. And Ogre's right...the fact is Christians use the procedure, along with Muslims, Jews, Hindis, Buddhists, agnostics, deists, and atheists, among others. So your argument has no validity. But of course this even completely misses the point - abortions are NOT done in the name of atheism so your claim is moot anyway. "If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

nmgirl Posts: 92 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,13:56    Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,11:18) Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 06 2011,11:10) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,10:59) Abortion? How many innocent babies have been killed since Roe v. Wade? try   49,551,703 Another red herring... abortion is done by Christians as well as non-Christians. So, you think it's OK to murder doctors who perform abortions? So, you think it's OK to perform violence, including murder, to prevent abortion... which is the law of the land*? * And don't start on "God's Law supercedes Man's Law", don't forget that the Bible says you should follow the Law of the Land... or is that metaphorical too? But abortion is a secular agenda, I have never seen abortion promoted by churches. You seem to think that just because there are Christians having abortions that it somehow makes not a secular agenda. And no I don't agree with violence of any kind against abortion clinics, doctors, etc... So, tell me how many have been killed by violence against abortion clinics and doctors? I've already shown that over 49 million babies have been killed. IBIG, you use the word "church" instead of Christian now.  I say a Christian is not a church.  Too many churches forget the meaning of Christ's message.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,15:04    Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 06 2011,13:48) Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,11:45) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,11:18)   Quote But abortion is a secular agenda, I have never seen abortion promoted by churches. You seem to think that just because there are Christians having abortions that it somehow makes not a secular agenda. Abortion is not a "secular agenda" - what ignorance. Abortion is a medical procedure provided for health and well-being. It isn't even a "promoted" procedure, unlike say...plastic surgery and LASIK, so I have no idea what you're going on about. And Ogre's right...the fact is Christians use the procedure, along with Muslims, Jews, Hindis, Buddhists, agnostics, deists, and atheists, among others. So your argument has no validity. But of course this even completely misses the point - abortions are NOT done in the name of atheism so your claim is moot anyway. "If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." Amen Brother!   To further mngirl's comment. As there are reported to be approximately 38,000 Christian denominations. ( Christianity Today – General Statistics and Facts of Christianity Today) Now, are there 37,999 denominations that are wrong? -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,15:20    Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,15:05) there is only one way to deal with you fuckers... SILENCING... [/B]]http://www.headlinezone.com/index.php?showtopic=18354[B][/b] What an exquisitely Christian answer to things you don't like.  Well done, lad, well done. The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,15:27    Now, that's a great idea! Hey, IBIG, tell me how I can get a succubus.  Tall and blonde if you don't mind. Thx.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,15:32    Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 06 2011,15:27) Now, that's a great idea! Hey, IBIG, tell me how I can get a succubus.  Tall and blonde if you don't mind. Thx. with large tracts of land. Hey IBIG, you might want to explain to whatshisface how violence is wrong for a Christian... -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Badger3k Posts: 861 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,17:02    Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 06 2011,10:32) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,10:19) Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,10:01) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 05 2011,20:11)   Quote Tell me how many people have been slaughtered by Atheistic Countries, or none Christian countries? You seem to think that those who follow God are the problem. I also have a problem with Religion, and there are many Religions, but there is only one true God, only one that we can have a Relationship with. What an ignorant question that completely misses the point. What country or countries have ever slaughtered people  in the name of atheism? Any? No. Not a one. In fact, I can't think of any single person who's ever been killed in the name of atheism. Yet billions of people have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity alone. Try again, IBIG. Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history Provide your sources the billions have been killed in the name of Christianity? Salem Witch Trials Inquisition Pakistan Governor First Crusade 1095–1099 Siege of Jerusalem Crusade of 1101 Norwegian Crusade 1107–1110 Second Crusade 1147–1149 Third Crusade 1187–1192 Fourth Crusade 1202–1204 Albigensian Crusade Children's Crusade Fifth Crusade 1217–1221 Sixth Crusade 1228–1229 Seventh Crusade 1248–1254 Eighth Crusade 1270 Ninth Crusade 1271–1272 Northern Crusades Crusades of the Teutonic Order Swedish Crusades Wendish Crusade Stedinger Crusade Aragonese Crusade Alexandrian Crusade Mahdian Crusade Crusades in the Balkans Crusade against the Tatars Hussite Crusade Children's Crusade Anti-Abortion Violence Christian Yugoslav government led by the popular leader Slobodan Milosevic slaughtered huge numbers of ethnic Albanian Muslims Biblical references Worldwide Flood Sodom and Gomorrah Isrealite takeover of Canaan (Deuteronomy 20:17) Numbers 31:15-18 exodus, chapter 34, verses 11-14 leviticus, chapter 26, verses 7-9 How's that for a start? But those weren't Real Christians!  He already said so.  Seriously, it sounds like he's getting his history from Barton, or Berlinsku (sp?). -------------- "Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

Badger3k Posts: 861 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,17:22    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 06 2011,11:28) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,11:18) So, tell me how many have been killed by violence against abortion clinics and doctors? I've already shown that over 49 million babies have been killed. What, exactly, is the connection between those two things? 49 million babies?  In what sense?  Is he counting blastocysts?  That's the usual way that these jokers do it.  I haven't heard of any abortions performed on babies, you know, the things that have been born and are out of the womb.  It has been preformed on fetuses of various stages of development, however, as well as blastocysts (and any other stages I might have missed, zygotes?). I assume that Biggie is also against fertilization, as that results in a lot of dead zygotes.  I assume he would be against crimes involving women who may be pregnant, including women who smoke or drink (endangering the health of the "baby").  I can't see the death penalty as a penalty, though, since he is all "right to life"....right? What about the biggest abortionist of all - God?  Billions of fetuses spontaneously abort every year (or even day, perhaps, if we include all the animals).  What is his punishment?  Oh yeah, to have Biggie as a worshiper and representative here on Earth... ETA - I think the connection is that there is this moral relativism, or something like it.  Haven't read the responses yet, so I'm eager to see how this is justified.  It's like watching a Corman flick, or Sleepaway Camp. -------------- "Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,17:27    Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 06 2011,17:02) Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 06 2011,10:32) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,10:19)   Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,10:01)   Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 05 2011,20:11)     Quote Tell me how many people have been slaughtered by Atheistic Countries, or none Christian countries? You seem to think that those who follow God are the problem. I also have a problem with Religion, and there are many Religions, but there is only one true God, only one that we can have a Relationship with. What an ignorant question that completely misses the point. What country or countries have ever slaughtered people  in the name of atheism? Any? No. Not a one. In fact, I can't think of any single person who's ever been killed in the name of atheism. Yet billions of people have been slaughtered in the name of Christianity alone. Try again, IBIG. Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history Provide your sources the billions have been killed in the name of Christianity? Salem Witch Trials Inquisition Pakistan Governor First Crusade 1095–1099 Siege of Jerusalem Crusade of 1101 Norwegian Crusade 1107–1110 Second Crusade 1147–1149 Third Crusade 1187–1192 Fourth Crusade 1202–1204 Albigensian Crusade Children's Crusade Fifth Crusade 1217–1221 Sixth Crusade 1228–1229 Seventh Crusade 1248–1254 Eighth Crusade 1270 Ninth Crusade 1271–1272 Northern Crusades Crusades of the Teutonic Order Swedish Crusades Wendish Crusade Stedinger Crusade Aragonese Crusade Alexandrian Crusade Mahdian Crusade Crusades in the Balkans Crusade against the Tatars Hussite Crusade Children's Crusade Anti-Abortion Violence Christian Yugoslav government led by the popular leader Slobodan Milosevic slaughtered huge numbers of ethnic Albanian Muslims Biblical references Worldwide Flood Sodom and Gomorrah Isrealite takeover of Canaan (Deuteronomy 20:17) Numbers 31:15-18 exodus, chapter 34, verses 11-14 leviticus, chapter 26, verses 7-9 How's that for a start? But those weren't Real Christians!  He already said so.  Seriously, it sounds like he's getting his history from Barton, or Berlinsku (sp?). Biggy's qualifications to proclaim such a thing and have it accepted as valid are (how shall I put this?) not exactly possessed of either sterling quality or solid foundation.  He may bleat all he wishes, but his abuse of the No True Scotsman fallacy is too blatant to ignore. The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Badger3k Posts: 861 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,17:37    Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,13:38) [quote=IBelieveInGod,Jan. 06 2011,10:56][/quote]   Quote Did you read the link that I posted? I read the error-filled link. The problem is, once again you aren't paying attention. Neither Mao Zadong nor Stalin killed in the name of atheism. Hitler, OTOH, actually killed in the name of Christianity.  D'Souza, once again, just demonstrates his ignorance. He used D'Souza?  Crap, that error-filled tome is strong enough to fertilize the Midwest, but the stench would take weeks to dissipate.  No wonder he's confused. -------------- "Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

Wolfhound Posts: 468 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,17:45    Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 06 2011,14:48) Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,11:45) Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,11:18)   Quote But abortion is a secular agenda, I have never seen abortion promoted by churches. You seem to think that just because there are Christians having abortions that it somehow makes not a secular agenda. Abortion is not a "secular agenda" - what ignorance. Abortion is a medical procedure provided for health and well-being. It isn't even a "promoted" procedure, unlike say...plastic surgery and LASIK, so I have no idea what you're going on about. And Ogre's right...the fact is Christians use the procedure, along with Muslims, Jews, Hindis, Buddhists, agnostics, deists, and atheists, among others. So your argument has no validity. But of course this even completely misses the point - abortions are NOT done in the name of atheism so your claim is moot anyway. "If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." "If you're against abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE!"  -- My bumpersticker -------------- I've found my personality to be an effective form of birth control.

Wolfhound Posts: 468 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,17:46    Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,16:05) there is only one way to deal with you fuckers... SILENCING... [/B]]http://www.headlinezone.com/index.php?showtopic=18354[B][/b] So sorry about your small penis. -------------- I've found my personality to be an effective form of birth control.

prong_hunter Posts: 45 Joined: May 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,18:13    IBIG! You said, "Okay let’s see you create non-living matter from nothing, and then let’s see you create life from that non-living matter, and then I will talk with you:):):) If it is so easy for life to have come about from non-living matter without the intervention of a Creator, then it should be so much easier for science to CREATE life in a lab:):):) And I’m supposed to be delusional?" How come the US government has granted a patent for ABIOGENESIS? So talk to me. I've just shown you what you said can't be done.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,18:28    Quote (prong_hunter @ Jan. 06 2011,16:13) IBIG! You said, "Okay let’s see you create non-living matter from nothing, and then let’s see you create life from that non-living matter, and then I will talk with you:):):) If it is so easy for life to have come about from non-living matter without the intervention of a Creator, then it should be so much easier for science to CREATE life in a lab:):):) And I’m supposed to be delusional?" How come the US government has granted a patent for ABIOGENESIS? So talk to me. I've just shown you what you said can't be done. Holy crap that's stupid: "We can't do it, so it must have been God." That's about as enlightened as sacrificing virgins to the volcano god. Of course, if/when life is ever created from primordial elements, we'll get the "Intelligence was involved" argument. Yawn. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,18:41    Nope, IBIG is Teh Xstian. There can be only one... and IBIG is what it is teh bomb. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,18:53    Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 06 2011,21:27) Now, that's a great idea! Hey, IBIG, tell me how I can get a succubus.  Tall and blonde if you don't mind. Thx. No one understands that IBIG's REAL mission is to defeat the agents of Satan. I want to hear about it. I don't know why he's being so shy. Tell us all about it IBIG. Tell us about demonic influences. Louis -------------- Bye.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,19:39    Quote (Louis @ Jan. 06 2011,18:53) Quote (Doc Bill @ Jan. 06 2011,21:27) Now, that's a great idea! Hey, IBIG, tell me how I can get a succubus.  Tall and blonde if you don't mind. Thx. No one understands that IBIG's REAL mission is to defeat the agents of Satan. I want to hear about it. I don't know why he's being so shy. Tell us all about it IBIG. Tell us about demonic influences. Louis Yes, IBIG, tell us about the demons in your head telling you to convince people that religion is wrong. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

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