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J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,09:26    Quote (Lufeld @ Sep. 20 2007,06:17) Quote (J. O'Donnell @ Sep. 20 2007,08:41) Does anyone aside from me think it is utterly hillarious to have a series of links to uncommondescent and evolutionnews and subsequently proclaiming this to be 'media coverage'. You are not alone. Here is a link to an analysis of the "media coverage": Link Lufeld - Thanks for the research and post!   However, You have opened up an entirely new area for the Exciting World of ID Research™ - Self-Flagelation and Manipulation.   If an ID post is posted only on ID sites, does it really count as a post?  And how many angels can actually dance on William Demsbksi's pointy little head?   This may well keep philosophers busy for some minutes trying to get to the "Truth" of the matter. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

dheddle Posts: 545 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,10:09    What have you guys done to UD? Put it back now. This instant. I'm not kidding. Don't make me tell you again! -------------- Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,10:22    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 20 2007,10:09) What have you guys done to UD? Put it back now. This instant. I'm not kidding. Don't make me tell you again! Don't cross us, Heddle. We can do that to ANY website, if you know what I mean and I think you do.   -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

factician Posts: 77 Joined: Aug. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,10:25    Densy: Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link -------------- conspiracyfactory.blogspot.com

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,10:37    Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy: Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link I think this is Granny Spice's way of saying "Girl Power!" -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

factician Posts: 77 Joined: Aug. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,10:40    Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 20 2007,10:37) Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:   Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link I think this is Granny Spice's way of saying "Girl Power!" But it's a weird way of saying it. "We're dumber but we're awesomer!"* I suppose from an ID worshipper, I shouldn't be surprised that lack of intellectual ability is considered an asset. -------------- conspiracyfactory.blogspot.com

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,11:09    Hmm. Taragana's contact phone is in another country. Rackspace.com has both US and European locales. Has UD outsourced its hosting? -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,11:15    Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:40) Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 20 2007,10:37) Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:   Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link I think this is Granny Spice's way of saying "Girl Power!" But it's a weird way of saying it. "We're dumber but we're awesomer!"* I suppose from an ID worshipper, I shouldn't be surprised that lack of intellectual ability is considered an asset. Jesus Christ - Won't someone PLEASE give her a "How To Write For Dummies" book?! This would work for her on so many different levels... -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,11:20    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 20 2007,11:09) Hmm. Taragana's contact phone is in another country. Rackspace.com has both US and European locales. Has UD outsourced its hosting? Wes, Anyone can write plugins for WordPress, and if you're not hosted on WP.com you can install any ones you like.  Taragana just wrote the plugin that gives the "We're down for maintainance" message, and hasn't necessarily ever even heard of UD. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,11:29    OK... I didn't assume that they could be outsourced based upon the Taragana thing alone. Their IP resolves to a Rackspace.com address, and Rackspace has both domestic and foreign locations. But what I should have done right off was plug the IP into the Geo IP lookup, which shows it to be located in Washington, DC. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

dheddle Posts: 545 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,11:36    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 20 2007,10:22)   Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 20 2007,10:09) What have you guys done to UD? Put it back now. This instant. I'm not kidding. Don't make me tell you again! Don't cross us, Heddle. We can do that to ANY website, if you know what I mean and I think you do.  :angry: heddle? I'm dheddle, dammit! -------------- Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,11:49    Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy: Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link "Math is hard!" - Barbie -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,12:00    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Sep. 20 2007,17:49) Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:   Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link "Math is hard!" - Barbie "Math is a meaningless non word, created by someone who decided that Mathematics was somehow not a plural" Pedantic Brit. -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

dheddle Posts: 545 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,12:08    Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 20 2007,12:00)     Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Sep. 20 2007,17:49)     Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:       Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link "Math is hard!" - Barbie "Math is a meaningless non word, created by someone who decided that Mathematics was somehow not a plural" Pedantic Brit. Now, now... It's biology, not biologies It's chemistry, not chemistries It's math, not maths It's Darwinism, not Darwinisms (heh) It's computer science, not computer sciences* Only Physics, as it should, warrants the "royal we." -------- *But that wouldn't matter anyway, because of the old adage: any discipline with the word science in its name, isn't. -------------- Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,12:09    In the continuing saga of the downward spiral of UD, we now resolve to a standard 404 error. Sweet. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,13:08    Quote tribune7: On a completely unrelated topic since someone in the next room is blaring the Beatles, these lyrics just caught my ear: You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You tell me that it’s evolution Well, you know We all want to change the world Darwinism really isn’t about science. That's not biological evolution (Darwin), but social evolution (Marx & Lenin). John Lennon was preaching against using some utopian dream of the future to justify violence today. The FBI had the same problem and apparently thought Lennon was out to overthrow the U.S. government (which from his own poetry was clearly not the case). They were apparently confusing him with the other Lenin. You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You tell me that it’s evolution Well, you know We all want to change the world But when you talk about destruction Don’t you know that you can count me out Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right all right, all right You say you got a real solution Well, you know We’d all love to see the plan You ask me for a contribution Well, you know We’re doing what we can But when you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell is brother you have to wait Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right all right, all right Ah ah, ah, ah, ah, ah… You say you’ll change the constitution Well, you know We all want to change your head You tell me it’s the institution Well, you know You better free you mind instead But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right all right, all right all right, all right, all right all right, all right, all right -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,13:54    Since we have not heard anything from the UD camp, I thought I make make things easier for them when Dr. Dr. Dembski pulls out of his funk, steps down from the ledge and tries to explain his total pantsing at the OK Corral*:                  TOP TEN DEMBSKI EXCUSES                       for Getting Pwned 10.) All part of the Evil Darwinist Conspiracy out to get him 9.) Satan out to get him 8.) He was set-up by Satan-worshipping Darwinist Conspirators(aka Trinity Baptist Elders) 7.) Off his game because he was worried about OJ 6.) His Mom didn't love him. 5.) OK cheerleaders threated to give him a wedgie, right before he took the stage. 4.) Intelligent design? Oh Snap - I thought you meant Unintelligent Design! 3.) Concerned that Ohio National Guard would start shooting again. 2.) Hawt Co-Ed in front row used a mysterious force and a push-up bra to distract him. 1.) And the #1 Excuse for getting Pwned - THE DESIGNER DESIGNED IT THAT WAY! *OK Corral line stolen borrowed form Factician? or some other fine ATBC blogger -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,14:04    Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 20 2007,13:54) Since we have not heard anything from the UD camp, I thought I make make things easier for them when Dr. Dr. Dembski pulls out of his funk, steps down from the ledge and tries to explain his total pantsing at the OK Corral*:                  TOP TEN DEMBSKI EXCUSES                       for Getting Pwned 10.) All part of the Evil Darwinist Conspiracy out to get him 9.) Satan out to get him 8.) He was set-up by Satan-worshipping Darwinist Conspirators(aka Trinity Baptist Elders) 7.) Off his game because he was worried about OJ 6.) His Mom didn't love him. 5.) OK cheerleaders threated to give him a wedgie, right before he took the stage. 4.) Intelligent design? Oh Snap - I thought you meant Unintelligent Design! 3.) Concerned that Ohio National Guard would start shooting again. 2.) Hawt Co-Ed in front row used a mysterious force and a push-up bra to distract him. 1.) And the #1 Excuse for getting Pwned - THE DESIGNER DESIGNED IT THAT WAY! *OK Corral line stolen borrowed form Factician? or some other fine ATBC blogger Well, that Ohio National Guard line certainly dates you... I think you forgot one - He was hoping that a rumble would break out between the Trinity Baptist folks and the pro-science crowd, resulting in a tasering and more publicity on YouTube. He wants to be at least as famous as John Kerry! -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,14:13    Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 20 2007,10:37) Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:   Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link I think this is Granny Spice's way of saying "Girl Power!" Uh oh. Denyse just may have her permanent nickname. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,14:16    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 20 2007,12:08) Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 20 2007,12:00)     Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Sep. 20 2007,17:49)       Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:         Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link "Math is hard!" - Barbie "Math is a meaningless non word, created by someone who decided that Mathematics was somehow not a plural" Pedantic Brit. Now, now... It's biology, not biologies It's chemistry, not chemistries It's math, not maths It's Darwinism, not Darwinisms (heh) It's computer science, not computer sciences* Only Physics, as it should, warrants the "royal we." -------- *But that wouldn't matter anyway, because of the old adage: any discipline with the word science in its name, isn't. Indeed, virtually no one in the US says 'maths'. Plus: the field is 'linguistics', 'linguistic' is an adjective. And despite what Supersport says, 'faith' is NOT a verb. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,14:26    Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 20 2007,13:54) 3.) Concerned that Ohio National Guard would start shooting again. Ohio National Guard? Bah!  We once sent out the Oklahoma National Guard, accessorized with a tank, to deal with knuckle-headed Texans.  See here. EDIT:Also here.   Quote *OK Corral line stolen borrowed form Factician? or some other fine ATBC blogger I suppose it would be poor form of me to mention that you used "Uncommon Descent into Madness" over at Pharyngula yesterday without attribution?   -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

someotherguy Posts: 398 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,14:27    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 20 2007,12:08) Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 20 2007,12:00)     Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Sep. 20 2007,17:49)       Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:         Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link "Math is hard!" - Barbie "Math is a meaningless non word, created by someone who decided that Mathematics was somehow not a plural" Pedantic Brit. Now, now... It's biology, not biologies It's chemistry, not chemistries It's math, not maths It's Darwinism, not Darwinisms (heh) It's computer science, not computer sciences* Only Physics, as it should, warrants the "royal we." -------- *But that wouldn't matter anyway, because of the old adage: any discipline with the word science in its name, isn't. But oddly enough, as Buffy has shown us, it's magics, not magic. -------------- Evolander in training

Occam's Toothbrush Posts: 555 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,14:28    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 20 2007,15:16) And despite what Supersport says, 'faith' is NOT a verb. Oh yeah?  Faith you, pal. -------------- "Molecular stuff seems to me not to be biology as much as it is a more atomic element of life" --Creo nut Robert Byers ------ "You need your arrogant ass kicked, and I would LOVE to be the guy who does it. Where do you live?" --Anger Management Problem Concern Troll "Kris"

jeannot Posts: 1201 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,14:48    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Sep. 20 2007,11:49) Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:   Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link "Math is hard!" - Barbie "Syntagmatics is not easy either" - Densey

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,15:03    Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 20 2007,14:26) Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 20 2007,13:54) 3.) Concerned that Ohio National Guard would start shooting again. Ohio National Guard? Bah!  We once sent out the Oklahoma National Guard, accessorized with a tank, to deal with knuckle-headed Texans.  See here. EDIT:Also here.     Quote *OK Corral line stolen borrowed form Factician? or some other fine ATBC blogger I suppose it would be poor form of me to mention that you used "Uncommon Descent into Madness" over at Pharyngula yesterday without attribution?   ;) 1.  Colbert is everywhere!  EDIT:Also here. 2.  re:  Proper attribution - Oh Noes! I must have a breakdown in the chem-detardifyer!  I will get that into repair immediately, thank you. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,15:50    Quote (J-Dog @ Sep. 20 2007,10:15)     Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:40)       Quote (carlsonjok @ Sep. 20 2007,10:37)       Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy: Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link I think this is Granny Spice's way of saying "Girl Power!" But it's a weird way of saying it. "We're dumber but we're awesomer!"* I suppose from an ID worshipper, I shouldn't be surprised that lack of intellectual ability is considered an asset. Jesus Christ - Won't someone PLEASE give her a "How To Write For Dummies" book?! This would work for her on so many different levels... Writing for dummies? Isn't that precisely what she's doing? Working for her, I'd say. In an attempt to appeal to as many guys as possible (their numbers dropping the way her slang-speak fell flat) she's trying to be "blonde" now. I've seen this before. It too shall, er, pass. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,16:05    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 20 2007,11:22) Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 20 2007,10:09) What have you guys done to UD? Put it back now. This instant. I'm not kidding. Don't make me tell you again! Don't cross us, Heddle. We can do that to ANY website, if you know what I mean and I think you do.  :angry: Remember that UD genius who said that what probably happened was, Marks submitted his paper to peer review, and the reviewers read it, and, realizing it would be 'too devastating' to darwinism, they did (unexplained) and had Marks's lab destroyed? Wonder how that guy explains UD's downtime?

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,16:14    We know that UD has erased egregiously embarrassing bits before. Its current state simply could be taking that policy to its logical conclusion. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

factician Posts: 77 Joined: Aug. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,16:39    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 20 2007,16:14) We know that UD has erased egregiously embarrassing bits before. Its current state simply could be taking that policy to its logical conclusion. Not quite.  Dembski's books are still available on Amazon.com. -------------- conspiracyfactory.blogspot.com

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 20 2007,16:44    Quote (dheddle @ Sep. 20 2007,18:08) Quote (IanBrown_101 @ Sep. 20 2007,12:00)     Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Sep. 20 2007,17:49)       Quote (factician @ Sep. 20 2007,10:25) Densy:         Quote Anyone who thinks that the fact that girls are not as good as boys in math means that girls do not rule is obviously not in contact with many girls. Ummm...  Huh? Link "Math is hard!" - Barbie "Math is a meaningless non word, created by someone who decided that Mathematics was somehow not a plural" Pedantic Brit. Now, now... It's biology, not biologies It's chemistry, not chemistries It's math, not maths It's Darwinism, not Darwinisms (heh) It's computer science, not computer sciences* Only Physics, as it should, warrants the "royal we." -------- *But that wouldn't matter anyway, because of the old adage: any discipline with the word science in its name, isn't. Ah, but they aren't plurals. Maths is. Mathematics, variety of different mathematical principles. -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

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