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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,14:44   

atta boy amadan.

ripped apart by flaming mob, not so much.  probably more like proselytized into oblivion by hatemongering soul-botherers trying to get him to admit that jews = science = killed jesus = hitler

what a clusterfuck.  i would love to see them all in the same submarine fighting for the last molecule of oxygen.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 10 2009,17:39   

Saw this piece of crap today. (...for free, no money to the TARDS, mwaahahahahhahaha, suck it.)

It's every bit as chock full of deliberate lies that it is purported to be.

Not misunderstandings, not misguided foolishness, but flat out deliberate lies and distortions. Everyone involved in the production of that piece of garbage propaganda hit job is a disgusting, lying sack of shit, a vomit inducing sleazebag with a dearth of integrity so complete it begs for comparisons to a black hole.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: April 10 2009,17:44   

Quote (Lou FCD @ April 10 2009,18:39)
Saw this piece of crap today. (...for free, no money to the TARDS, mwaahahahahhahaha, suck it.)

It's every bit as chock full of deliberate lies that it is purported to be.

Not misunderstandings, not misguided foolishness, but flat out deliberate lies and distortions. Everyone involved in the production of that piece of garbage propaganda hit job is a disgusting, lying sack of shit, a vomit inducing sleazebag with a dearth of integrity so complete it begs for comparisons to a black hole.

Mos UD

A wretched hive of scum and villainy.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 10 2009,18:14   

Quote (Lou FCD @ April 10 2009,17:39)
Saw this piece of crap today. (...for free, no money to the TARDS, mwaahahahahhahaha, suck it.)

It's every bit as chock full of deliberate lies that it is purported to be.

Not misunderstandings, not misguided foolishness, but flat out deliberate lies and distortions. Everyone involved in the production of that piece of garbage propaganda hit job is a disgusting, lying sack of shit, a vomit inducing sleazebag with a dearth of integrity so complete it begs for comparisons to a black hole.

but now you can actually take and say that with an implicitly latched moral certainty.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 20 2009,17:28   

Sorry to bump this thread and post the same thing I posted on the BW, but I just got to the fact that the video is very relevant regarding Expelled...

Richard Dawkins' talk at the American Atheists 09 convention.

Professor Dawkins

(And yes, I do post Dawkins' videos rather instinctively, within minutes of having started watching them, because, let's face it, the guy is brilliant!)

Edit: changed "fascinating" to "brilliant" as not to confuse the unsuspecting lurker. I DO NOT have a Dawkins altar in my bedroom...










It's in the living room... :p

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: April 20 2009,17:36   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 20 2009,18:28)
Sorry to bump this thread and post the same thing I posted on the BW, but I just got to the fact that the video is very relevant regarding Expelled...

Richard Dawkins' talk at the American Atheists 09 convention.

Professor Dawkins

(And yes, I do post Dawkins' videos rather instinctively, within minutes of having started watching them, because, let's face it, the guy is brilliant!)

Edit: changed "fascinating" to "brilliant" as not to confuse the unsuspecting lurker. I DO NOT have a Dawkins altar in my bedroom...










It's in the living room... :p

What rituals do you perform? :)

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 20 2009,17:42   

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What rituals do you perform? :)


You don't want to know!*

*although constantly beating the crap out of  a stein I brought back from Oktober Fest is part of the ritual... :D

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 20 2009,18:43   

But are those rituals on a daily basis? :p

  
Badger3k



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(Permalink) Posted: April 20 2009,23:32   

I just have to add that I saw copies of "Expelled" in the 2/$10 bin at my local HEB (a super-HEB - grocery store - which is more like wal-mart, selling more than food).  So, on the one hand, they are out for a wider audience.  On the other.... :p

(and this is in the middle of Texas, right by Fort Hood).

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2009,08:30   

Quote (Badger3k @ April 20 2009,23:32)
I just have to add that I saw copies of "Expelled" in the 2/$10 bin at my local HEB (a super-HEB - grocery store - which is more like wal-mart, selling more than food).  So, on the one hand, they are out for a wider audience.  On the other.... :p

(and this is in the middle of Texas, right by Fort Hood).

Do everybody a favor - move them into
1.) 2 / $1.00 bin
0r
2.) Recycle bin

You should do it in honor of Earth Day - I hear those disks are toxic.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2009,23:13   

Guillermo is not the only expelled at grove city

giggle

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GROVE CITY, PA. – A student who appeared in pornographic videos using a pseudonym is appealing his suspension from a Christian college in western Pennsylvania saying the off-campus job wasn't the business of school officials.

John Gechter, 22, of Philadelphia said he needed the income from his roles in gay porn to pay for school but was suspended for one year from Grove City College, pending his appeal, after a student saw him in a video posted online.

"I absolutely believe this college violated my rights," Gechter told The Herald of Sharon. "They (suspended) me based on my occupation. I was not doing anything illegal."

College spokeswoman Amy Clingensmith said Gechter was suspended because he "exhibited behavior contrary to the values" of the college.

"He also indicated he chose to participate in this behavior knowing it was incongruent with the policies, mission and values of Grove City College," Clingensmith said.

Gechter told the newspaper he has been in about 15 gay porn scenes in the last two years using the screen name "Vincent DeSalvo." In doing the work, he said, he flew to Chicago, Los Angeles, Miami and other places on the weekends.

Gechter, a senior majoring in molecular biology, said he started doing gay porn after he was referred to the industry through a modeling agency late in his sophomore year.

Another student recognized Gechter and copied and pasted some images of him in an e-mail that was sent to some friends April 23. By the next morning, most of the student body and the school admininstration had seen or knew about the e-mail, Gechter said.

Gechter contacted the American Civil Liberties Union and the Pittsburgh Delta Foundation, a gay advocacy group. Delta's president, Gary Van Horn Jr. sent a letter to the school saying Gechter's gay porn work doesn't affect the school because he acted under a pseudonym.

Gechter said he hasn't attended classes in two weeks since appealing the suspension, saying he's afraid of reprisals from students.

But Clingensmith said Gechter has been seen eating in the cafeteria and working out in the gym among other students.


Another student happened to see the video

roflmao

what's worse doing the gay porn or being the fundie that discovers it

pssst hey look what um my friend sent me on teh email

bwaaaaaaa

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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(Permalink) Posted: May 08 2009,07:55   

Vincent DeSalvo

DeSalvo

Salvo

  
sledgehammer



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(Permalink) Posted: May 09 2009,10:10   

So let me get this straight:
At Grove City College, participation in gay porn is cause for expulsion, but participation in intellectual porn, a.k.a. "Expelled", gets you tenure.

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2009,08:38   

Doktor Ben Addresses His Intellectual Peers

   
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Ben Stein - accomplished scholar, attorney, writer and actor who attended Yale Law School — delivered a message of creationism, patriotism and value for humanity to graduates and their families on Saturday, May 9, at Williams Stadium.


Surely they were referring to Expelled's impassioned discussion of patriotism and value for humanity, and how they are despised by the Jew-killing scientists? Because Expelled is about Intelligent Design - y'know, science, not, ah, what'sitcalledagain ... oh yeah creationism.

Umm,, no:

   
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He spoke extensively about his work on “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed,” a documentary exposing the flaws of Darwinism and showing how the scientific community discriminates against scholars who believe in creationism.




As my teenage kids say*

FAIL


* And just because I like to show their friends my prowess in disco dancing. What's not to like?

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2009,10:31   

Quote (Amadan @ May 11 2009,16:38)
Doktor Ben Addresses His Intellectual Peers

   
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Ben Stein - accomplished scholar, attorney, writer and actor who attended Yale Law School — delivered a message of creationism, patriotism and value for humanity to graduates and their families on Saturday, May 9, at Williams Stadium.


Surely they were referring to Expelled's impassioned discussion of patriotism and value for humanity, and how they are despised by the Jew-killing scientists? Because Expelled is about Intelligent Design - y'know, science, not, ah, what'sitcalledagain ... oh yeah creationism.

Umm,, no:

   
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He spoke extensively about his work on “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed,” a documentary exposing the flaws of Darwinism and showing how the scientific community discriminates against scholars who believe in creationism.




As my teenage kids say*

FAIL


* And just because I like to show their friends my prowess in disco dancing. What's not to like?

Your a case,

Wait till they find out your GAY and doing a bio major boyfriend of one your kids girlfriends (the one with the huge TITS!)

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2009,10:50   

Who? The kid or the girlfriend?

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2009,11:06   

Quote (Amadan @ May 11 2009,18:50)
Who? The kid or the girlfriend?

I suspect both now :)

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KCdgw



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2009,11:14   

Quote (Amadan @ May 11 2009,08:38)
Doktor Ben Addresses His Intellectual Peers

   
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Ben Stein - accomplished scholar, attorney, writer and actor who attended Yale Law School — delivered a message of creationism, patriotism and value for humanity to graduates and their families on Saturday, May 9, at Williams Stadium.


Surely they were referring to Expelled's impassioned discussion of patriotism and value for humanity, and how they are despised by the Jew-killing scientists? Because Expelled is about Intelligent Design - y'know, science, not, ah, what'sitcalledagain ... oh yeah creationism.

Umm,, no:

   
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He spoke extensively about his work on “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed,” a documentary exposing the flaws of Darwinism and showing how the scientific community discriminates against scholars who believe in creationism.




As my teenage kids say*

FAIL


* And just because I like to show their friends my prowess in disco dancing. What's not to like?

Was that a real audience, or a fake one, as Stein used in the film?

KC

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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2009,13:00   

I just snorted sushi out of my nose. Whom do I sue? (Maybe I should call teh attorney, Stein himself?)
     
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Blah, blah accomplished scholar [what? May I ask, what scholarship has he "accomplished?" Maybe he once received, er, a scholarship? That must be it.], attorney, writer and actor who attended Yale Law School — delivered a message of creationism, patriotism and value for humanity to graduates and their families on blah, blah, blah.

Blah, blah, historic because it’s the first Commencement address delivered in sneakers,” Falwell joked [Wassamatah, yer pa who was once a playboy Calypso musician never paraded around in his Bermuda shorts beneath those robes?] as he invited Stein to the podium, just moments after Liberty University conferred an honorary Doctorate of Humanities blah blah. [Humanities, yet. That's my field, and them's fightin' words.]

Stein, 64, spoke of LU founder Dr. Jerry Falwell as a great man and praised the university for its support of Israel, the unborn, family values and morality. [And Israel's prevention of more unborn Palestian Israeli citizens, by trying to pass laws in the Knesset limiting marriage by Israeli citizens who are Palestians?]

“It is a wonderful thing to be in a place where you can say the truth, and one of the truths is that in this country you can say any curse word … on television. The only words you cannot say are God and Jesus Christ — " blah, blah, see anything contradictory here? ;)

He spoke extensively about his work on “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed,” a documentary exposing the flaws of Darwinism and showing how the scientific community discriminates against scholars who believe in creationism.

[I thought ID was not about creationism!] :D

“I realized that the real issues of life were not economic issues, not necessarily material issues, but metaphysical issues,” he said, later explaining how looking at life as merely “animated mud” rather than a God-given blah blah animated mud-flinging.

After his documentary went public, Stein said the reception was fiercely critical blah, blah, "name-calling  blah beyond anything, blah, blah, I’ve worked for Richard Nixon, blah, blah, been called a lot of names,” he said. “But I’ve never seen the [kind of] anger directed at this movie and at yours truly.” [See, that's how you get Ben Stein to finally remember, after his "forgetting" during the UVM debacle, that he actually did this movie - make it all about him!] :)

Stein received a standing ovation for his remarks.

Though Stein does not share all of the same views as Liberty University, Chancellor Falwell said one of the major reasons he invited Stein to speak was because of his documentary.

When Falwell first announced that Stein would be delivering this year’s Commencement address, he said: “His work in exposing how fraudulent science is being used in this country to destroy freedom and advance tyrannical social and political agendas deserves our attention and respect.”


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Was that a real audience, or a fake one, as Stein used in the film?

Does it really matter? :p

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KCdgw



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2009,13:08   

A fake audience would be so much funnier.  Well, to me at least ;)

KC

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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2009,08:18   

Liberty University, where pseudo-intellectual Ben Stein gave the commencement address this year, has banned the campus Democratic club from using university facilities, the university name, etc. Apparently the Democratic club was only recognized last fall, so this experiment with free speech was quite short-lived. The campus Republican club remains untouched. The email to the club's president, announcing this decision by the university administration, contained this gem.
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The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the ‘LGBT’ agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)


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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2009,08:33   

Quote (sledgehammer @ May 09 2009,17:10)
So let me get this straight:
At Grove City College, participation in gay porn is cause for expulsion, but participation in intellectual porn, a.k.a. "Expelled", gets you tenure.

Damn, I'm late on that one!

"Let me get this straight..."

NOT A CHANCE HOMO!!! IT'S GAY PORN!!!!!!!111one11!






Sorry, had to be done...

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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2009,08:35   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 23 2009,09:18)
Liberty University, where pseudo-intellectual Ben Stein gave the commencement address this year, has banned the campus Democratic club from using university facilities, the university name, etc. Apparently the Democratic club was only recognized last fall, so this experiment with free speech was quite short-lived. The campus Republican club remains untouched. The email to the club's president, announcing this decision by the university administration, contained this gem.  
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The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the ‘LGBT’ agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)

So basically, for supporting basic human rights.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2009,08:37   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 23 2009,15:18)
Liberty University, where pseudo-intellectual Ben Stein gave the commencement address this year, has banned the campus Democratic club from using university facilities, the university name, etc. Apparently the Democratic club was only recognized last fall, so this experiment with free speech was quite short-lived. The campus Republican club remains untouched. The email to the club's president, announcing this decision by the university administration, contained this gem.  
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The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the ‘LGBT’ agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)

I'd be a student there, I'd.....I.....well, I wouldn't be a student there, for a start!

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2009,09:55   

Hey, i might start to think that I'm the ultimate topic killer. I kinda like that...

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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2009,10:23   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 23 2009,08:18)
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The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the ‘LGBT’ agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)

What the fuck does that even mean? The argument that one's sexual orientation or gender identity could be morally wrong is at least comprehensible (even if I totally disagree), but how could even the most deluded homophobe convince themselves that it is a "hate crime"?

If someone is gay or transgendered or whatever, who, exactly, is the victim?

Tell me I'm just reading it wrong.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2009,10:54   

Quote (Lowell @ May 23 2009,10:23)
 
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 23 2009,08:18)
   
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The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the ‘LGBT’ agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)

What the fuck does that even mean? The argument that one's sexual orientation or gender identity could be morally wrong is at least comprehensible (even if I totally disagree), but how could even the most deluded homophobe convince themselves that it is a "hate crime"?

If someone is gay or transgendered or whatever, who, exactly, is the victim?

Tell me I'm just reading it wrong.

Nope, I can't tell you that.

But it's possible that the logic goes something like this. Lots of right-wingers are opposed to the very concept of defining certain crimes as hate crimes, arguing that if you kill a gay person, you should be prosecuted under standard murder statutes. You shouldn't be punished under some other hate crime statute, hate is a "thought crime" and nobody should be punished for thought crimes...

This ignores the reason that hate crime statutes came into being; local jurisdictions were pretty lax in punishing someone who harmed a gay person, or a black person, and federal prosecutors could get involved if there was an appropriate hate crime statute at the federal level.

Or that sentence could mean something else entirely. Who knows?

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Lowell



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2009,11:13   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 23 2009,10:54)
Quote (Lowell @ May 23 2009,10:23)
   
Quote (Albatrossity2 @ May 23 2009,08:18)
     
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The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the ‘LGBT’ agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)

What the fuck does that even mean? The argument that one's sexual orientation or gender identity could be morally wrong is at least comprehensible (even if I totally disagree), but how could even the most deluded homophobe convince themselves that it is a "hate crime"?

If someone is gay or transgendered or whatever, who, exactly, is the victim?

Tell me I'm just reading it wrong.

Nope, I can't tell you that.

But it's possible that the logic goes something like this. Lots of right-wingers are opposed to the very concept of defining certain crimes as hate crimes, arguing that if you kill a gay person, you should be prosecuted under standard murder statutes. You shouldn't be punished under some other hate crime statute, hate is a "thought crime" and nobody should be punished for thought crimes...

This ignores the reason that hate crime statutes came into being; local jurisdictions were pretty lax in punishing someone who harmed a gay person, or a black person, and federal prosecutors could get involved if there was an appropriate hate crime statute at the federal level.

Or that sentence could mean something else entirely. Who knows?

Okay. I see what you're saying. Thanks, Alby.

I guess they meant the group is contrary to the mission of the university because it "supports . . . hate crime laws, which include sexual orientation and gender identity . . . ."

It's still stupid, but at least it's comprehensible.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2009,17:41   

I was just looking at Netflix and, influenced by the latest Ben Stein sighting, I looked up Expelled. Under the poster for the movie, I was told how Netflix users liked the film:

Average of raters like you: 1.7 stars
Average of 166,095 ratings: 3.6 stars

Looks like Netflix has me pegged.

The movie is available for instant viewing over the internet. Does anyone know if the filmmakers get any money for such downloads? What about getting the DVD in the mail?

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: July 16 2009,18:00   

Headline:

Ben Stein - Predatory Bait and Switch Merchant

Predatory Bait & Switch Merchant

Created... or Designed?

And good comments - I think most people have caught up to the lying shill..

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