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The Ghost of Paley Posts: 1703 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2006,07:18    Quote ... so I take it you've been there then GOP? If I was the liar people make me out to be, I could simply answer "yes" and watch the Yenta spin in circles. But I haven't been to Aussieland, so I'll just lead him to a magic information box! Yeah, that's the ticket. I'm available for further help if anyone needs me.... -------------- Dey can't 'andle my riddim.

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2006,07:34    Quote Only when they harass others, as is often the case in Australia. .. Oh I see, so this is another of your 'assertions'. I've been there by the way - including to Sydney, and I don't recall this being one of their 'worries' mate. So am I right in thinking that you have no need to travel the world to 'broaden your mind' GOP? All you have to do is stay at home and 'trawl the magic box'. So you can pretend to yourself that you are an expert on things - when the reality is that you a bizarre little disembodied entity. Oh I forgot you live in 'Paley's world don't you. Must be a sad place.

The Ghost of Paley Posts: 1703 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2006,08:21    Quote .. Oh I see, so this is another of your 'assertions'. I've been there by the way - including to Sydney, and I don't recall this being one of their 'worries' mate. That's not an M.P., that's a Y.P. Quote So you can pretend to yourself that you are an expert on things - when the reality is that you a bizarre little disembodied entity. No pretend to it. Don't feel too bad, though - it's not easy information to obtain. The Marxist media prefers to cover certain things up, wait for the inevitable reaction, then report said reaction without the necessary context. Like in Cronulla beach, let's say. Oops sorry...we yanks aren't supposed to know the background behind that...<zombie>The riots were due entirely to racism and xenophobia. There was no cause for any anger. Less freedom is the answer. Less freedom is the answer. Less.....</zombie> -------------- Dey can't 'andle my riddim.

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2006,13:32    GOP .. you have the freedom to travel the world - but am I right in thinking you've never actually been anywhere, and see no need to - because you can stay at home and Googletrawl? Even though you have to allow for the Marxist media - although something tells me 'Fox' would be your channel of choice - or are they 'Marxist' in your eyes? Oh I heard about the trouble in Sydney too - but I was interested in your assertion that it is 'often the case' that 'Muslims harrass people in Australia'? Googletrawl for some evidence for that if you want to. I'll stick by my first hand experience if you don't mind... I have also noticed that whenever a specialist starts talking about their field - then Wow! - what a co-incidence - half an hour later you are an expert too. But I'm afraid that people see though a 'Googletrawler' like yourself - I was suspicious when you started quoting a rather obscure paper about the 'White Gene' - I'm sure you were dissapointed when you found it, and the term wasn't quite used in the way that you had hoped. You were found out my friend. I have to admire your balls for the way you pick fights with you intellectual superiors - although I'm afraid they lose respect for you when you run away as soon as things start to get a little hot for you and you are clearly out of your depth. How long have you been keeping these guys waiting at 'Paley's Ghost can back up his assertions' for this 'paper' you are working on? I'm afraid your hit and run tactics don't work any more. Whoever you are, you are a fraud - and you scare no one.

The Ghost of Paley Posts: 1703 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2006,14:43    Quote GOP .. you have the freedom to travel the world - but am I right in thinking you've never actually been anywhere, and see no need to - because you can stay at home and Googletrawl? As with so many other things, you are mistaken: I've been to several foreign countries - England included. But in addition to traveling, I rely on scientific research, news articles, and other people's experiences to shape my world view. And much of this evidence exists on the internet. Quote But I'm afraid that people see though a 'Googletrawler' like yourself - I was suspicious when you started quoting a rather obscure paper about the 'White Gene' - I'm sure you were dissapointed when you found it, and the term wasn't quite used in the way that you had hoped. You were found out my friend. Your inability to absorb information is duly noted. This flaw is reflected in many ways: for example, I notice that you still can't spell "disappointed" despite being corrected on at least one occasion. You chose an apt avatar. Quote I have to admire your balls for the way you pick fights with you intellectual superiors - although I'm afraid they lose respect for you when you run away as soon as things start to get a little hot for you and you are clearly out of your depth. Even if true, how does this make you look? In our only debate, you were clobbered so badly that you've resorted to following me around Panda's Thumb and lying about my politics, to the point where even your ideological allies beg you to quit. Pathetic. Quote I'm afraid your hit and run tactics don't work any more. Whoever you are, you are a fraud - and you scare no one. Then why are you the one that's sweating? -------------- Dey can't 'andle my riddim.

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,00:49    ... all that chasing you around you slippery thing.....

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,00:58    As for the Avatar.. perhaps it didn't occur to you that a little Socratic Irony ... might be involved?  I understand it's a concept many Americans are said to struggle with? What were your impressions of England when you came here by the way? - Perhaps you'd like to give your answers over at that ever-popular thread, the: English Garden Party

tiredofthesos Posts: 59 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,01:42    GoP, if he isn't simply the greatest false troll of all-time, displays perhaps the most unpleasant, deceit-filled horsehokey still allowed to post at PT.  Here, on this thread, we can see him at his nadir (a very, VERY low point indeed, declaring victory for a defeat, in a tone that leaks right through the screen like the girl from "Ringu" except that, instead of horror it provokes absolute disgust.  How can a human be SO dishonest, so mean-spirited, and yet live?  Better he were "a pair of claws, scuttling across..."

The Ghost of Paley Posts: 1703 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,05:28    Hey, leave Eliot out of this! When he's not writing about his %^$# cats, the lad shows ability. -------------- Dey can't 'andle my riddim.

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,09:45    GOP is actually a 'Lab Bench Experiment' of mine... I am very cruel and unsophisticated - I find an anonymous life-form and then poke it to see what happpens??? apart from the predictable squirming - I don't see much. Others have tried more respectable ways of getting information.. but they are very patient with him - he can always use the 'runny nose' excuse. (As someone who has kept a responsible job together whilst suffering from debilitating and life-threatening asthma - I'll hope you forgive the 'cheap shot'. Gop - you are obviously capable of critical thought, - and consider yourself to be quite clever. Has it ever occurred to you to put your talents to the common good? give something of your time for nothing perhaps? in return you might learn from those less fortunate than yourself... I'm an Atheist - I don't need a reason to do that kind of thing - I understand you are a Christian? - aren't you supposed to do that kind of thing automatically? ... just wondering?

The Ghost of Paley Posts: 1703 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,10:07    Quote Has it ever occurred to you to put your talents to the common good? give something of your time for nothing perhaps? in return you might learn from those less fortunate than yourself... How do you know that I don't help the less fortunate? Quote I'm an Atheist - I don't need a reason to do that kind of thing - I understand you are a Christian? - aren't you supposed to do that kind of thing automatically? ... just wondering? I do because I want to, not because I have to. -------------- Dey can't 'andle my riddim.

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,11:33    Nothing about you can be kown all the time you hide behind an Avatar GOP... So I'm free to work from the information I have from your posts.... I suppose that, if: someone wins a Nobel prize for something that helps the poor, or disadvantaged, in years to come and says: "  .. and I am the Nobel winning scientist formerly known as GOP!" .. then I could be proved wrong... hmmm.... do you mind if I stay with my view that you are are a; sad little racist fraud; until I get some empirical evidence to the contrary? Is there anything you have ever done that you are proud enough to put your real name to for example?

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,11:41    Hey Gop!.. let's choose a 'good cause'and see if we can 'do something' together.. I'll let you nominate  a cause that we both might agree on.. if I don't agree .. I have to get a turn .. and so on until we can both agree on one 'common cause' how about giving it a try? wouldn't it be fun to put our 'brainpower'  together for the common good'?

The Ghost of Paley Posts: 1703 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2006,15:50    How about this cause? Quote I also believe that America should buy out those crusty South African farmers and work with the World Bank to train replacement black farmers. The Mugabe policy that the South African government is currently pursuing will result in mass starvation and the entire destabilization of South Africa. And when that happens, the libs will wring their hands and blame Whitey. While black people starve. -------------- Dey can't 'andle my riddim.

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2006,00:49    .. sounds fair enough on the surface.. ... but by 'crusty' do you mean 'white'? I understood that the ANC were fairly happy with their farmers and weren't proposing massive land reform? ...i'm all for spending a bit on training and education though... I'm no fan of Mugabe by the way - although I happened to go to school with one of his nieces when she was a refugee - really sweet girl. Is there a specific charity working in the area you are describing or is this just an idea?

The Ghost of Paley Posts: 1703 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2006,07:51    Quote ... but by 'crusty' do you mean 'white'? Of course the farmers are white; the effects of apartheid don't vanish at the pop of a champaign cork. The question is how to redress these inequities. Until recently, the ANC has let the better angels of its conscience guide its land reform policy, but sluggish economic growth and intransigent farmers have blocked progress. Most farmers will probably accept fair market value for their plots, but absent foreign aid, the money is lacking. A little carrot-and-sticking would work wonders here, and I suspect that Caporegime Bush can provide the <ahem> motivation. Our resources, alas, continue to be frittered away on Neocon opium visions. -------------- Dey can't 'andle my riddim.

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2006,07:57    Look you two, I'm sure the South African government and peoples are grateful for your advice, but does Mr P. really have time for this with his "guts to gametes" to prepare. And what about Cogzoid and Ericmurphy!

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2006,12:40    Sorry Mr Fox - I have tried to point out to 'Mr Ghost of Paley' that he should stop wittering on here and get on with his paper for you - but I didn't think my efforts were appreciated? Mr Cogzoid does say very rude things about my 'content-free posts' and doesn't appreciate I'm trying to help.. Oh!well.. anyway not sure about 'Guts to Gametes' - but Mr Gop has had time to get himself a funky little avatar, so I suppose he's achieved something this week. I am intrigued to see if he has a human side, and whether we might ever find it possible to find some common ground, and even provoke each other into doing something for the common good. As long as he thinks about that in his spare time I suppose that would be okay wouldn't it?

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