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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,00:11   

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FierceRollerJune 28, 2016 at 2:50 pm
wd400 has the right of it. “Investigat[ing] alleged corporate fraud on the part of fossil fuel companies” does not equal “criminal prosecution of anyone who dissent’s [sic].” Arrington has misrepresented what the document actually says in a way that makes it sound much broader than it actually is. Lied, in other words.


linky

mahuna absolutely flabbergasted me in the same thread:      
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Originally, the Left Wing was monarchist

I think this is the first time in my life I've seen monarchy defined as left wing.  Is there an award for Outstanding Ignorance?  

The Barry Prize maybe?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,07:22   

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Christianity is built on the fact that we live in a fallen world where death exists.

If no death existed, how in blue blazes could Christ ever defeat death?

Guess who.

Edited to add: Ten or twenty years ago I read about a death penalty debate in some conservative state and according to the article, a pro-death state legislator actually asked, "Where would we be today if Jesus Christ had gotten ten to fifteen for sedition?"
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That guy could just about get a gig as a stand up comedian.....if he followed up with "Just think we'd all be Jewish, Muslim or believe god was Jove"

ETF semantic correction

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,07:38   

If we didn't have foreskins how in the blazes could God have decreed circumcision?

Stupid atheists.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,09:14   

If every creature on earth lived forever prior to a walking, talking snake starting a deluge of death around 4000 years ago we would see mountains of bones as high as pyramids all over the place. Batshitcrazy77 & Barry could walk to heaven if they put them in one big pile.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,10:51   

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FierceRollerJune 28, 2016 at 2:50 pm
wd400 has the right of it. “Investigat[ing] alleged corporate fraud on the part of fossil fuel companies” does not equal “criminal prosecution of anyone who dissent’s [sic].” Arrington has misrepresented what the document actually says in a way that makes it sound much broader than it actually is. Lied, in other words.


linky

mahuna absolutely flabbergasted me in the same thread:          
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Originally, the Left Wing was monarchist

I think this is the first time in my life I've seen monarchy defined as left wing.  Is there an award for Outstanding Ignorance?  

The Barry Prize maybe?

Recipients are presented with an uncut gem.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,11:01   

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If every creature on earth lived forever prior to a walking, talking snake starting a deluge of death around 4000 years ago we would see mountains of bones as high as pyramids all over the place. Batshitcrazy77 & Barry could walk to heaven if they put them in one big pile.

Gordon would join them -- it fulfills their deepest dreams.  Walking to heaven on the bones of those who oppose them.
They would make of the earth a vast wasteland, possibly because it's all their pitiful little minds want to have to deal with.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,11:20   

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If every creature on earth lived forever prior to a walking, talking snake starting a deluge of death around 4000 years ago we would see mountains of bones as high as pyramids all over the place. Batshitcrazy77 & Barry could walk to heaven if they put them in one big pile.

Gordon would join them -- it fulfills their deepest dreams.  Walking to heaven on the bones of those who oppose them.
They would make of the earth a vast wasteland, possibly because it's all their pitiful little minds want to have to deal with.

I suspect Gordon Mullings would have to send out a dove and wait until it returned with a lottery ticket from Florida or pawn his computer before he could join them.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,11:23   

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FierceRollerJune 28, 2016 at 2:50 pm
wd400 has the right of it. “Investigat[ing] alleged corporate fraud on the part of fossil fuel companies” does not equal “criminal prosecution of anyone who dissent’s [sic].” Arrington has misrepresented what the document actually says in a way that makes it sound much broader than it actually is. Lied, in other words.


linky

mahuna absolutely flabbergasted me in the same thread:          
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Originally, the Left Wing was monarchist

I think this is the first time in my life I've seen monarchy defined as left wing.  Is there an award for Outstanding Ignorance?  

The Barry Prize maybe?

Recipients are presented with an uncut gem.

A bushel of foreskins?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,11:55   

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If every creature on earth lived forever prior to a walking, talking snake starting a deluge of death around 4000 years ago we would see mountains of bones as high as pyramids all over the place. Batshitcrazy77 & Barry could walk to heaven if they put them in one big pile.

Gordon would join them -- it fulfills their deepest dreams.  Walking to heaven on the bones of those who oppose them.
They would make of the earth a vast wasteland, possibly because it's all their pitiful little minds want to have to deal with.

Kind of...

I think it's much like the zombie apocalypse fantasies. Every person thinks that they will be the one to save humanity. Every person thinks that they would be that one survivor out of billions of dead and rebuild society in their image.

In reality, of course, every person would be the "stumbling zombie" in the credits sequence.

It's just arrogance fantasy.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,12:15   

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If every creature on earth lived forever prior to a walking, talking snake starting a deluge of death around 4000 years ago we would see mountains of bones as high as pyramids all over the place. Batshitcrazy77 & Barry could walk to heaven if they put them in one big pile.

Gordon would join them -- it fulfills their deepest dreams.  Walking to heaven on the bones of those who oppose them.
They would make of the earth a vast wasteland, possibly because it's all their pitiful little minds want to have to deal with.

I suspect Gordon Mullings would have to send out a dove and wait until it returned with a lottery ticket from Florida or pawn his computer before he could join them.

Gordon needs his computer. I'm sure normal people stopped talking to him years ago.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,12:19   

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MatSpiritJune 29, 2016 at 1:44 am
Bill Cole @ 84: “Were you aware of this? Look like evolutionary skepticism among real live scientists.”

There is? I thought science was a conspiracy of elitist toffs suckling on the government teat while living high off the hog on the taxpayer’s money, pausing occasionally to persecute some poor Christian who dares to question the party line. Wonder where I got that idea?

BC: “Have you heard of the third way? Have you ever looked at this theory critically yourself?”

Vaguely. I’ve seen some chatter about it here and a few other references to it. I think Susan Mazur is into it. I’ve read a couple of her pieces and watched one or two of her interviews and wasn’t impressed with them.

I just Googled “third way” and found http://www.thethirdwayofevolution.com/....ion.com whose front page says,
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… neo darwinism invokes a set of unsupported assumptions about the accidental nature of hereditary variation. Neo-Darwinism ignores important rapid evolutionary processes such as symbiogenesis, horizontal DNA transfer, action of mobile DNA and epigenetic modifications. Moreover, some Neo-Darwinists have elevated Natural Selection into a unique creative force that solves all the difficult evolutionary problems without a real empirical basis…


I’ve heard of Dennis Noble and I’ve read a bit of him online. I haven’t heard of the others.

I’m curious to know why ID would get excited with this. Evolution has absorbed symbiogenesis, horizontal DNA transfer, and epigenetic modifications. I’m not sure what “action of mobile DNA” means unless they mean jumping genes.

They’re all part of modern evolutionary theory, along with Mendelian genetics and dozens of other things Darwin never knew about. I’ve learned about them all from science books, magazines and on line sources.

Just what does ID expect from this conference?


lol

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,12:22   

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nkendallJune 29, 2016 at 11:16 am
Well the horse has already left the barn regardless of the outcome of this symposium. At the risk of being labeled a “quote minor…”

You have Denis Nobel on record saying:

“All the central assumptions of the Modern Synthesis (often called Neo-Darwinism) have been disproven.”

You have James Shapiro in the opening statement of his recent book saying:

“Innovation, not selection, is the critical issue in evolutionary change. Without variation and novelty, selection has nothing to act upon. So this book is dedicated to considering the many ways that living organisms actively change themselves. Uncovering the molecular mechanisms by which living organisms modify their genomes is a major accomplishment of late 20th Century molecular biology. Conventional evolutionary theory made the simplifying assumption that inherited novelty was the result of chance or accident.”

Other comments by Shapiro:

“It is difficult (if not impossible) to find a genome change operator that is truly random in its action within the DNA of the cell where it works. All careful studies of mutagenesis find statistically significant non-random patterns of change, and genome sequence studies confirm distinct biases in location of different mobile genetic elements.”

Shapiro asked rhetorically:

“Do the sequences of contemporary genomes fit the predictions of change by “numerous, successive, slight variations,” as Darwin stated, or do they contain evidence of other, more abrupt processes, as numerous other thinkers had asserted? The data are overwhelmingly in favor of the saltationist school that postulated major genomic changes at key moments in evolution.”

More Shapiro:

“Natural genetic engineering generates different kinds of variation from those produced by classical mutations, one gene at a time. Rearrangements can take place at multiple locations at once and shuffle entire domains from one protein to another, producing novel combinations quickly and abruptly, perhaps even purposefully.”

Act “abruptly and even purposefully”…get that.

And here Shapiro comments on the slim evidence (Luria and Delbrück experiments) that “mutations” are random:

“Given the lethal nature of the selecting virus Luria and Delbrück used, there was in fact no other possible outcome. Infection was invariably lethal, and only preexisting resistant mutants could survive. Nonetheless, this experiment was cited for over six decades as proof that virus infection could not induce a genetic change to resistance. One has to be careful with the word ‘proof’ in science. I always said that conventional evolutionists were hanging a very heavy coat on a very thin peg in the way they cited Luria and Delbrück. The peg broke in the first decade of this century.”

Eugene Koonin:

“Major transitions in biological evolution show the same pattern of sudden emergence of diverse forms at a new level of complexity. …. The cases in point include the origin of complex RNA molecules and protein folds; major groups of viruses; archaea and bacteria, and the principal lineages within each of these prokaryotic domains; eukaryotic super-groups; and animal phyla. In each of these pivotal nexuses in life’s history, the principal “types” seem to appear rapidly and fully equipped with the signature features of the respective new level of biological organization. No intermediate “grades” or intermediate forms between different types are detectable.”

Koonin then goes on to defend these statements in his paper.

I suppose neo-Darwinists can imagine that these folks are just wrong despite the long list of references to recent scientific research they cite. But even if unaware of any of these comments, anyone equipped with common sense and intuition could discern three clear trends indicating that neo-Darwinism is wrong: 1) Far greater levels of complexity—“astounding,” “astonishing,” “unimagined complexity”—2) this far greater complexity occurring over very brief periods of time and 3) this greater complexity occurring over brief periods of time and happening repeatedly. There is a pattern here, a repeated pattern of rapid accrual of the same types of complexity is a signature of design, not chance.

And this is to say nothing about the vast quantities of novel complex specified information exhibited by the human mind in dreams and thought streams, not to mention during near death experiences where the content is ineffable and when the brain doesn’t even appear to be fully functioning. And all this rich novel, complex information arises instantaneously and spontaneously in the mind (not strictly the brain).

It is all over my materialist friends who may be listening in. Here is my advice to you…get on the right side of history. Don’t be one of those persons who embraces a theory that is becoming a fossil of a bygone age till its last breath. Open your minds…and your hearts. Biological sciences have been in the dark ages for the past century…time for a renaissance, an enlightenment—“design” will be the watchword of the 21st century. And in the end it will have been all these fine folks on this forum that will have ushered in such an enlightenment.


derp

And if you think that didn't demolishviscerate Darwin, we'll find some quotes about "mind-blowing complexity" and surely That'll be Game Over!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,12:50   

can someone explain to me why Dionisio has been posting over and over on one thread by himself since February?

The last 86 posts in that thread have been him.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,12:53   

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...And in the end it will have been all these fine folks on this forum that will have ushered in such an enlightenment.


derp

And if you think that didn't demolishviscerate Darwin, we'll find some quotes about "mind-blowing complexity" and surely That'll be Game Over!

I'm sure Noble, Shapiro and Koonin give full acknowledgement to the paradigm-destroying scientific advances of Arrington, Mullings and O'Leary.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,13:10   

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wd400June 29, 2016 at 11:40 am
What is it about this topic that makes people lose their minds so readily.

The question for any investigaton would amount “did directors have evidence for the likely impacts of fossil fuels on climate, which they knowingly witheld”. It’s not about wether director though climate change was not real.

I did have to laugh at this though
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Furthermore, what does it mean to claim something is a “scientific reality”? Aren’t all scientific models provisional in nature? Since when did science become a method for establishing what “reality” is?

I’m pretty sure it’s a scientific reality that smoking causes cancer, no?
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asauberJune 29, 2016 at 12:02 pm
“I’m pretty sure it’s a scientific reality that smoking causes cancer”

My parents were smokers and neither has cancer.

This is what we are up against. People like WD40 who can’t see any reality beyond their political memes.

Andrew
and people wonder why i quit teaching

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,13:57   

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Assuming, only for the sake of argument that:

1. that giraffes were designed, and
2. creationists are practicing actual science;

… then what will creationist scientists do NEXT to study the origin of giraffes?

A. Are creation scientists trying to determine how giraffes were designed? How are they doing this?

By this I am asking how the designer determined what physiological changes were needed to make a viable giraffe and what genetic or other biological changes were needed to effectuate these physiological changes.

B. Are creation scientists trying to determine how the first giraffes were manufactured and assembled? How are they doing this?

C. Are creation scientists trying to confirm their theories about A or B? How are they doing this?

D. How does the conclusion that giraffes were designed help us understand the biology of giraffes?

sean s.


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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,14:38   

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can someone explain to me why Dionisio has been posting over and over on one thread by himself since February?

The last 86 posts in that thread have been him.


  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,15:00   

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can someone explain to me why Dionisio has been posting over and over on one thread by himself since February?

The last 86 posts in that thread have been him.


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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,15:03   

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sean samisJune 29, 2016 at 12:42 pm
Assuming, only for the sake of argument that:

1. that giraffes were designed, and
2. creationists are practicing actual science;

… then what will creationist scientists do NEXT to study the origin of giraffes?

A. Are creation scientists trying to determine how giraffes were designed? How are they doing this?

By this I am asking how the designer determined what physiological changes were needed to make a viable giraffe and what genetic or other biological changes were needed to effectuate these physiological changes.

B. Are creation scientists trying to determine how the first giraffes were manufactured and assembled? How are they doing this?

C. Are creation scientists trying to confirm their theories about A or B? How are they doing this?

D. How does the conclusion that giraffes were designed help us understand the biology of giraffes?

sean s.


linky

This is the line I tend to push (when I can be bothered).

Beyond 'It's designed!' there really is no 'Step - 2' to ID/Creationism. There's no way on Earth any of the ID 'scientists' are going to even attempt to ask those questions while they're in possession of a cherished tome that gives the only acceptable answers.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,15:08   

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can someone explain to me why Dionisio has been posting over and over on one thread by himself since February?

The last 86 posts in that thread have been him.

The bigger question is what made Querius interupt Dionisio's permanent Complex complexityorgasm during which he ejaculated hundreds of unheard and unanswered comments.

I was wondering about that already back in 2015.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,15:16   

You know how in the movies, they show the mental ward, and several of the patients are off doing some OCD thing, like one guy's counting the tiles, while someone else slowly rips a magazine into paper strips, and someone else is babbling repetitively?

Well at UD we've got Dionisio's endless 'complex complexity', bornagain just obsessively cutting and pasting random 'quantum mechanics' shit in every thread, KF is screeching about gays and colour of law and strawmen, and can't finish a sentence unless he counts 10 adverbs and adjectives, Barry wanders through and talks over the other mental patients and then wanders out the door for a while....

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,15:48   

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You know how in the movies, they show the mental ward, and several of the patients are off doing some OCD thing, like one guy's counting the tiles, while someone else slowly rips a magazine into paper strips, and someone else is babbling repetitively?

Well at UD we've got Dionisio's endless 'complex complexity', bornagain just obsessively cutting and pasting random 'quantum mechanics' shit in every thread, KF is screeching about gays and colour of law and strawmen, and can't finish a sentence unless he counts 10 adverbs and adjectives, Barry wanders through and talks over the other mental patients and then wanders out the door for a while....

Barry is Nurse Ratchet.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2016,20:35   

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A. Are creation scientists trying to determine how giraffes were designed? How are they doing this?

Thou shalt keep in mind that this is a rather tall order!

  
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A. Are creation scientists trying to determine how giraffes were designed? How are they doing this?

Thou shalt keep in mind that this is a rather tall order!

No-one's prepared to stick their neck out.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2016,00:27   

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A. Are creation scientists trying to determine how giraffes were designed? How are they doing this?

Thou shalt keep in mind that this is a rather tall order!

No-one's prepared to stick their neck out.

Except to look up their own asses

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A. Are creation scientists trying to determine how giraffes were designed? How are they doing this?

Thou shalt keep in mind that this is a rather tall order!

No-one's prepared to stick their neck out.

It will take a long time for them to swallow their pride.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2016,07:43   

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A. Are creation scientists trying to determine how giraffes were designed? How are they doing this?

Thou shalt keep in mind that this is a rather tall order!

No-one's prepared to stick their neck out.

It will take a long time for them to swallow their pride.

OH HAHAHAHAHAHA :)

Nice to see you're still around Zac.

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wd400June 29, 2016 at 11:40 am
What is it about this topic that makes people lose their minds so readily.

The question for any investigaton would amount “did directors have evidence for the likely impacts of fossil fuels on climate, which they knowingly witheld”. It’s not about wether director though climate change was not real.

I did have to laugh at this though
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Furthermore, what does it mean to claim something is a “scientific reality”? Aren’t all scientific models provisional in nature? Since when did science become a method for establishing what “reality” is?

I’m pretty sure it’s a scientific reality that smoking causes cancer, no?
 
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asauberJune 29, 2016 at 12:02 pm
“I’m pretty sure it’s a scientific reality that smoking causes cancer”

My parents were smokers and neither has cancer.

This is what we are up against. People like WD40 who can’t see any reality beyond their political memes.

Andrew
and people wonder why i quit teaching

That's a great shame. Now is a great time to be teaching Physics. I suspect we are on the edge of some great discoveries. With the standard model model of particle physics possibly about to be expanded in view of the new LHC measurements now couldn't be a better time to exite students.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2016,09:38   

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With the standard model model of particle physics possibly about to be expanded in view of the new LHC measurements now couldn't be a better time to exite students.

Yeah, after hearing for decades that general relativity is "the" theory of gravity, and a while back I saw an article that said it has competition! Something called the four vector potential model of gravity.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2016,10:30   

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With the standard model model of particle physics possibly about to be expanded in view of the new LHC measurements now couldn't be a better time to exite students.

Yeah, after hearing for decades that general relativity is "the" theory of gravity, and a while back I saw an article that said it has competition! Something called the four vector potential model of gravity.

That's  still relativistic and based on Newton's & Einstein's equations which both inform the standard model.

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