Reciprocating Bill
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Quote (skeptic @ June 17 2007,07:52) | Bill, one question, have you read the book and do you have any real justification for this crap you're spouting beyond hatred? |
That would be two questions, Skept.
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No, I haven't read the book, and I don't think I critiqued the content of the book in any specific terms above. I've read others of Behe's essays, as well as a considerable quantity of both ID literature and the scientific critiques of same (generally, I'm getting somewhat sick of the entire topic, as it is clearly going nowhere fast). As I stated in my post, I generally trust the motives and process of the scientific community, and those who have already reported upon the emptiness of Behe's latest effort.
What my post argues is that community identification, membership, and commitment motivates us all, in part, in choosing sides in debates such as these, that Behe resigned from one community and joined another, and that his actions can be understood in that light. I also asserted that what differentiates the scientific community from that with which Behe identifies is a distributed, community process of theory and research that actually increases knowledge of the natural world.
I also reported my own identification, as well as the fact that I find the extremes of fundamentalist Christianity to be intellectually and aesthetically homely in a manner self-parodied by these album covers (which are real, so far as I can tell). One needn't look that far to find other examples, however; I also find the buildings, music, sets, oratorical style, etc. employed by contemporary mega-churches and televanglists, regardless of how well monied, to be unbelievably cheesy. But then, as indicated above, Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention are my idea of a good time (You didn't see that wink?)
That's all just my opinion - I don't think it reflects hatred, however. I gather you don't agree.
[Edit] So, you think the above is crap. What, you don't think community identification is important? You don't think Behe switched sides? You don't think he is motivated and buffered by his current identification and membership? You don't think science increases our knowledge of the natural world? You think ID does? You find the aesthetics of contemporary fundamentalist Xtianity to be fine, fine, super fine?
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