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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2016,12:10   

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Gordon CunninghamJune 17, 2016 at 11:08 am
KF: “hence the sadly destructive power of the closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven and too often polarised mind.”

What is even more sad is that you are willing to assign these characteristics to those who disagree with your viewpoint, often with over-th-top emotion, yet fail to see any of these characteristics in yourself.

What are your attacks on evolution, materialis, and subjective morality, if not the result of a closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven and polarized mind?

I realize that these are hard words to hear, but sometimes they must be heard.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2016,12:11   

I like button would be good: exactly what needs to be said to kf.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2016,12:19   

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I like button would be good: exactly what needs to be said to kf.

That and "I'm going to write you a prescription."

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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2016,14:36   

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I look forward to Montserrat winning the lack-of-self-awareness gold in Rio:
     
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138  kairosfocus June 17, 2016 at 6:24 am
Marfin:

     
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Evidence never looks compelling if you don`t engage with it


hence the sadly destructive power of the closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven and too often polarised mind.

KF

linky

Another example.  The Montserrat God Botherers team is sure to win a ton of gold if they can maintain this level of performance in Rio:    
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PS: Post “Elevatorgate” the new atheists and the like need to ponder very carefully the extent to which they have fallen into the rhetorically very convenient but self-refuting position of selective hyperskepticism. Grand, self-serving question begging dressed up in an intellectual pose that refuses to assess the reasonable degree of evidence likely to be available or actually available and what a responsible, consistent, prudent person would conclude from it with serious issues on the table.

They may even bring home the Zika Virus Cup and spread God's handiwork all over the island.
Gobsmacking thread.

Edited by CeilingCat on June 17 2016,14:38

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2016,16:25   

"Gordon" Humiliates Gordon Part Eleven Million
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Gordon CunninghamJune 17, 2016 at 2:03 pm
KF: “GC, you are here speaking with disregard to the truth, in hope of profiting by what you have said or suggested being perceived as truth.”

KF, let’s rewind the clock so that we have full context. Your response was in response to Marfin who said:

“Sean S. Evidence never looks compelling if you don`t engage with it,so Sean the universe a product of natural or supernatural events,seeing you see no evidence for God you must believe the natural did it, so please explain how the natural did it ,at this point please dont say I dont know or scientist say, please give me the evidence of how nature alone makes a universe and all it contains.If there is only two alternatives and you cannot give compelling evidence or proof for one , why is the other option so difficult for you.”

In your response you only included Marfin’s opening (in bold), completely ignoring the fact that he was demanding a burden of proof for naturalism that he doesn’t demand for God-did-it.

And to remind everyone of your response:

“hence the sadly destructive power of the closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven and too often polarised mind.”

So, unless you were implying that Sean Samis, who Marfin was responding to, is encumbered by a sadly destructive power of the closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven and too often polarised mind., why would you make such a stupid and rude comment?

Why don’t you simply admit that you made an off-the-cuff thoughtless comment and apologize for it?
GC

   
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2016,19:11   

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Gordon CunninghamJune 17, 2016 at 6:09 pm
KF: “First, I spoke to a specific, striking remark that is worth commenting on in its own right.”

You spoke about a specific striking remark, taken out of context, about a third person.

You have three options open to you:

1) explain why Sean Samis is encumbered by a closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven mind, as your comment claimed.

2) apologize for making the stupid comment.

3) not appologize and prove to everyone that you are encumbered by a closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven mind.

My money is on number three. But I am hoping to be surprised.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2016,19:50   

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Gordon CunninghamJune 17, 2016 at 6:09 pm
KF: “First, I spoke to a specific, striking remark that is worth commenting on in its own right.”

You spoke about a specific striking remark, taken out of context, about a third person.

You have three options open to you:

1) explain why Sean Samis is encumbered by a closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven mind, as your comment claimed.

2) apologize for making the stupid comment.

3) not appologize and prove to everyone that you are encumbered by a closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven mind.

My money is on number three. But I am hoping to be surprised.

Which now reads:
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Gordon CunninghamJune 17, 2016 at 6:09 pm
[Stop trolling my thread, GC. – WJM]

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2016,01:38   

Quote (CeilingCat @ June 17 2016,14:36)
Quote (JohnW @ June 17 2016,11:31)
I look forward to Montserrat winning the lack-of-self-awareness gold in Rio:
       
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138  kairosfocus June 17, 2016 at 6:24 am
Marfin:

       
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Evidence never looks compelling if you don`t engage with it


hence the sadly destructive power of the closed, indoctrinated, ideologically driven and too often polarised mind.

KF

linky

Another example.  The Montserrat God Botherers team is sure to win a ton of gold if they can maintain this level of performance in Rio:      
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PS: Post “Elevatorgate” the new atheists and the like need to ponder very carefully the extent to which they have fallen into the rhetorically very convenient but self-refuting position of selective hyperskepticism. Grand, self-serving question begging dressed up in an intellectual pose that refuses to assess the reasonable degree of evidence likely to be available or actually available and what a responsible, consistent, prudent person would conclude from it with serious issues on the table.

They may even bring home the Zika Virus Cup and spread God's handiwork all over the island.
Gobsmacking thread.

I guess it would even be more fun if KF provided MP3s of his pompous oeuvre.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2016,10:33   

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I look forward to Montserrat winning the lack-of-self-awareness gold in Rio:


I guess it would even be more fun if KF provided MP3s of his pompous oeuvre.


Helluva band name: KF and the Pompous Oeuvre, now appearing in the Tiki-Wiki Room at the Manjack Heights Motor Inn

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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2016,11:06   

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Quote (JohnW @ June 17 2016,11:31)
I look forward to Montserrat winning the lack-of-self-awareness gold in Rio:


I guess it would even be more fun if KF provided MP3s of his pompous oeuvre.


Helluva band name: KF and the Pompous Oeuvre, now appearing in the Tiki-Wiki Room at the Manjack Heights Motor Inn

Mr. Leathers on steel drum.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2016,11:20   

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Quote (JohnW @ June 17 2016,11:31)
I look forward to Montserrat winning the lack-of-self-awareness gold in Rio:


I guess it would even be more fun if KF provided MP3s of his pompous oeuvre.


Helluva band name: KF and the Pompous Oeuvre, now appearing in the Tiki-Wiki Room at the Manjack Heights Motor Inn

Mr. Leathers on steel drum.

Playing a donkey in a manger. Straw fed neighing all day Sunday.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2016,11:54   

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I look forward to Montserrat winning the lack-of-self-awareness gold in Rio:


I guess it would even be more fun if KF provided MP3s of his pompous oeuvre.


Helluva band name: KF and the Pompous Oeuvre, now appearing in the Tiki-Wiki Room at the Manjack Heights Motor Inn

Mr. Leathers on steel drum.

Playing a donkey in a manger. Straw fed neighing all day Sunday.

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2016,19:14   

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Gordon CunninghamJune 18, 2016 at 6:12 pm
WJM: “Scientists as far back as the mid 1800’s have gathered evidence for disembodied consciousnesses.”

I would certainly like to read some of those. Do you have any links to papers in the last thirty years or so? Hopefully they are something more than anecdotal stories of near death experiences or poltergeists.

I note, GC, that you use the terms “our” and “we”, as if referencing your own views in the collective sense will make them more authoritative and thus more credible.”

I use it in the same way that you do. In reference to things that humans have or have not been able to measure/identify/explain/etc.

When you can demonstrate how the brain can produce consciousness and experience, then you’ll have an argument for causation. Until then, it is nothing more than an atheistic narrative based upon correlation driven by a priori ideological commitments.”

And until you can demonstrate how the supernatural can produce a conciousness and experience independent of the physical brain, all you have is a theistic narrative driven by a priori ideological commitments. But at least the materialist argument has one thing going for it that the supernaturalist side doesn’t. A correlation.


I wonder how long this comment will stand.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,00:34   

William "Mindpowers" Murray got laughed out of TSZ. Hilarious that he is so prolific (and a heavy-handed censor) at UD.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,01:59   

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Another example.  The Montserrat God Botherers team is sure to win a ton of gold if they can maintain this level of performance in Rio:            
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PS: Post “Elevatorgate” the new atheists and the like need to ponder very carefully the extent to which they have fallen into the rhetorically very convenient but self-refuting position of selective hyperskepticism. Grand, self-serving question begging dressed up in an intellectual pose that refuses to assess the reasonable degree of evidence likely to be available or actually available and what a responsible, consistent, prudent person would conclude from it with serious issues on the table.

All this makes at least as much sense after Google translate translated it from English to German, from German to French and back to English several times:
 
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Post "Lift" new atheists, and the need to think in a global way file carefully in practice rhetoric they have position to take, but also hyperskepticism selective refutation. Problem United selfish dressed in intellectual begging attitude refuses to assess the appropriate level of evidence to be made available or can be prepared and would be responsible consistent conservative person serious issues on the table.

I strongly recommend to have it loudly read by Google translate. Just make sure the speaker's language is French.

Edited by sparc on June 19 2016,04:13

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,08:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ June 19 2016,01:34)
William "Mindpowers" Murray got laughed out of TSZ. Hilarious that he is so prolific (and a heavy-handed censor) at UD.

If UD had standards, it wouldn't be UD.  :p

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,09:11   

Kairosdoofus's Risk-Meets-MS Paint graphic reappears

Their headline writing is of the same quality as their fake science:
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VID: Cuddeback discusses Plato’s on unifying virtue, Government and community


Edited by stevestory on June 19 2016,10:11

   
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,13:07   

Lewontin!

And its not posted by KairosFlatus.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,14:26   

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Lewontin!

And its not posted by KairosFlatus.

I just went to that link and saw mung trying to criticize someone's use of synteny.

BTW, "evolve", your comments are good, but you might want to pick a different way to delineate quotes. Programming-style techniques are not usually the best choice. Good content though!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,14:35   

Everyone mark your calendars! June 19, 2016, is the day Intelligent Design won!!!!!!!!1111

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There you have it: “evolution” through “gene loss.” I.e., “evolution” through “loss of information.” Evolution does not PRODUCE “information”; it DESTROYS “information”. You can read about in the book: “Genetic Entropy.”

In sum: the war is over, and we won! Congratulations everyone!


The War is Over!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,14:40   

saved to the wayback machine in case PaV realizes what an imbecile he looks like (not likely)

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,19:09   

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Everyone mark your calendars! June 19, 2016, is the day Intelligent Design won!!!!!!!!1111
...

Can't let this little snippet pass unmentioned:
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We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.”

In fact:

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-PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,19:33   

do the evolutionary biology journal editors turn their keys in now, or wait for a delegation to arrive and take command of the fleet, or what? Nobody told me what to do when we lost!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,19:51   

Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2016,19:33)
do the evolutionary biology journal editors turn their keys in now, or wait for a delegation to arrive and take command of the fleet, or what? Nobody told me what to do when we lost!

I assume we all have to go to church now, too.  Do we just pick one?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,20:13   

I guess they'll be assigned? IDK. Did they distribute a .pdf of our instructions, or are they still just enjoying the celebratory bacchanal?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,21:32   

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do the evolutionary biology journal editors turn their keys in now, or wait for a delegation to arrive and take command of the fleet, or what? Nobody told me what to do when we lost!

We'll just have to admit that hot monkey sex with chimpanzees was the primary hope that ever led to absurdities like Darwinism.  That Nazism and Communism were both our goals in promoting our Godless agenda, and we were only too sad that one caused the other to be destroyed.  Lewontin's quote about the Divine Foot in the door will have to be inscribed onto all of our tombstones, and we must pray that the Divine Foot shall kick our asses as they deserve to be kicked.  Dembski will be officially proclaimed the Juice Newton of Information Theory, and Gordon Mullings will be Chief Philosopher and Theologian of the coming age, while the many gruesome tales of his persecutions and disrespect for his intellect will induce horror and self-loathing among all of the former Darwinists.  

Many of us will no doubt commit suicide (ironically, hastening our commitment to hellfire), rather than to face up to the truth of God and retribution for our lust for same-sex fornication with sheep and other ungulates of various kinds.  BA77 will finally be recognized for the genius that he is on Quantum Physics and all of biology.  Sackcloth and ashes will be our garb for the rest of our lives, while we who are male will politely request that strangers kick us in the nuts for ever doubting the wisdom of the brilliant and pious Barry Arrington.


There is much to do, and we must not delay our endless, yet futile, attempts to atone for our disrespect for God and his Mighty Scientist Defenders of Truth who have finally and forever vanquished our hateful crusade against Divinity and Self-Evident Truth.

Or, we might just deny it all yet again, just as we have done in the past in order to keep the Divine Foot from getting into the door, in spite of overwhelming evidence of design.  But is this still possible after PaV's post?  Haven't we all just about given in after reading WJM's posts, telling it like it is, that all atheists/Darwinists were as gullible and stupid as he was as an atheist (and still is as a theist--but I shall have to repent for such a parenthetical statement, yet I had to deny deny deny once more for old times' sake)?  The intellect, the sheer honesty of their approach to all of science by admitting the primacy and and precedence of God, plus the indubitable miracles that are our souls, will make denial even after PaV's post to be possible only for the most irredeemable materialist, God-hating, anti-humanitarian, and youth-corrupting souls.

Yet I predict that some of us have reached that state.  Can it be that some of us may yet destroy more souls after today?  Let us hope so.

Glen Davidson

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2016,22:48   

Quote (Glen Davidson @ June 19 2016,19:32)
Quote (stevestory @ June 19 2016,19:33)
do the evolutionary biology journal editors turn their keys in now, or wait for a delegation to arrive and take command of the fleet, or what? Nobody told me what to do when we lost!

We'll just have to admit that hot monkey sex with chimpanzees was the primary hope that ever led to absurdities like Darwinism.  That Nazism and Communism were both our goals in promoting our Godless agenda, and we were only too sad that one caused the other to be destroyed.  Lewontin's quote about the Divine Foot in the door will have to be inscribed onto all of our tombstones, and we must pray that the Divine Foot shall kick our asses as they deserve to be kicked.  Dembski will be officially proclaimed the Juice Newton of Information Theory, and Gordon Mullings will be Chief Philosopher and Theologian of the coming age, while the many gruesome tales of his persecutions and disrespect for his intellect will induce horror and self-loathing among all of the former Darwinists.  

Many of us will no doubt commit suicide (ironically, hastening our commitment to hellfire), rather than to face up to the truth of God and retribution for our lust for same-sex fornication with sheep and other ungulates of various kinds.  BA77 will finally be recognized for the genius that he is on Quantum Physics and all of biology.  Sackcloth and ashes will be our garb for the rest of our lives, while we who are male will politely request that strangers kick us in the nuts for ever doubting the wisdom of the brilliant and pious Barry Arrington.


There is much to do, and we must not delay our endless, yet futile, attempts to atone for our disrespect for God and his Mighty Scientist Defenders of Truth who have finally and forever vanquished our hateful crusade against Divinity and Self-Evident Truth.

Or, we might just deny it all yet again, just as we have done in the past in order to keep the Divine Foot from getting into the door, in spite of overwhelming evidence of design.  But is this still possible after PaV's post?  Haven't we all just about given in after reading WJM's posts, telling it like it is, that all atheists/Darwinists were as gullible and stupid as he was as an atheist (and still is as a theist--but I shall have to repent for such a parenthetical statement, yet I had to deny deny deny once more for old times' sake)?  The intellect, the sheer honesty of their approach to all of science by admitting the primacy and and precedence of God, plus the indubitable miracles that are our souls, will make denial even after PaV's post to be possible only for the most irredeemable materialist, God-hating, anti-humanitarian, and youth-corrupting souls.

Yet I predict that some of us have reached that state.  Can it be that some of us may yet destroy more souls after today?  Let us hope so.

Glen Davidson

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2016,03:02   

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do the evolutionary biology journal editors turn their keys in now, or wait for a delegation to arrive and take command of the fleet, or what? Nobody told me what to do when we lost!

As an evolutionary biology editor, I have precise instructions. But my accountant has told me not to comment further.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2016,03:23   

PAV the Donald Trump of the Intelligent Design creationism:  
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Here is basically the first page of the article (which is all I had access to)

 
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In sum: the war is over, and we won!

Quite convincing, indeed.

Edited by sparc on June 20 2016,04:15

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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2016,07:00   

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William "Mindpowers" Murray got laughed out of TSZ. Hilarious that he is so prolific (and a heavy-handed censor) at UD.

If UD had standards, it wouldn't be UD.  :p

If UD had standards, there would be endless arguments as to whether flag burning ought to be protected by the First Amendment.

Perhaps we can set light to Barry the Archbanner.

  
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