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Ftk Posts: 2239 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,14:52    Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,14:40) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html Crap woman, you're actually citing vox fucking crazy shit day?. Crap woman....read the comments....all the way down to mine.  Several people have accused me of not talking to Christians about my views on abortion.  I certainly have, but there was no way to prove that.   You got your proof now. Certainly doesn't mean I approve of abortion though.  I just don't think some people put much sincere thought into the matter. I can't imagine Vox easily making the decision to watch his wife die in order to save his 5th child if they decided to have another.  Seems to me he's saying it's a cut and dry decision...no questions asked....no remorse. Truth be told, I don't think you put a lot of thought into your views on abortion either. -------------- "Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths"  -forastero

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,14:59    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html So tell me FTK, what should be the punishment for a woman who aborts? Be specific. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:04    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,14:52) Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,14:40) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html Crap woman, you're actually citing vox fucking crazy shit day?. Crap woman....read the comments....all the way down to mine.  Several people have accused me of not talking to Christians about my views on abortion.  I certainly have, but there was no way to prove that.   You got your proof now. Certainly doesn't mean I approve of abortion though.  I just don't think some people put much sincere thought into the matter. I can't imagine Vox easily making the decision to watch his wife die in order to save his 5th child if they decided to have another.  Seems to me he's saying it's a cut and dry decision...no questions asked....no remorse. Truth be told, I don't think you put a lot of thought into your views on abortion either. But you're saying it wouldn't be a cut and dry situation for him.  Who's lying?  You or Vox? -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:10    Quote (blipey @ Jan. 27 2011,16:04)   Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,14:52)   Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,14:40)     Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html Crap woman, you're actually citing vox fucking crazy shit day?. Crap woman....read the comments....all the way down to mine.  Several people have accused me of not talking to Christians about my views on abortion.  I certainly have, but there was no way to prove that.   You got your proof now. Certainly doesn't mean I approve of abortion though.  I just don't think some people put much sincere thought into the matter. I can't imagine Vox easily making the decision to watch his wife die in order to save his 5th child if they decided to have another.  Seems to me he's saying it's a cut and dry decision...no questions asked....no remorse. Truth be told, I don't think you put a lot of thought into your views on abortion either. But you're saying it wouldn't be a cut and dry situation for him.  Who's lying?  You or Vox? Wouldn't that be a dilation and curettage situation? Just askin' -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Ftk Posts: 2239 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:13    Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,14:59) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html So tell me FTK, what should be the punishment for a woman who aborts? Be specific. Are there hearing aides for those who are having trouble hearing what has been said in typonese?  Having trouble with translation or what? -------------- "Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths"  -forastero

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:16    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,15:52) Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,14:40) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html Crap woman, you're actually citing vox fucking crazy shit day?. Crap woman....read the comments....all the way down to mine.  Several people have accused me of not talking to Christians about my views on abortion.  I certainly have, but there was no way to prove that.   You got your proof now. Certainly doesn't mean I approve of abortion though.  I just don't think some people put much sincere thought into the matter. I can't imagine Vox easily making the decision to watch his wife die in order to save his 5th child if they decided to have another.  Seems to me he's saying it's a cut and dry decision...no questions asked....no remorse. Truth be told, I don't think you put a lot of thought into your views on abortion either. He (or you) would consider someone die to crap out a 5th child? Shit, I've put a lot of thought into my views on abortion; what thought have you put into forcing me (or anyone else) to being forced to give birth? I also don't kill endangered species. When's the last time you actually had a thought? -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:17    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,15:13) Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,14:59) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html So tell me FTK, what should be the punishment for a woman who aborts? Be specific. Are there hearing aides for those who are having trouble hearing what has been said in typonese?  Having trouble with translation or what? Alright, let me rephrase it for you. 1.  You believe that abortion is murder. 2.  You (I assume) believe that murder is a sin. 3.  You believe that sinners should be punished. So, what punishment do you believe abortionists should receive? Or, is your concept of divine justice a bit shaky? -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:25    SarahsDaughter 1/27/11 8:50 AM Quote Perhaps it's equivalent to Faith, trusting God in all things, and Thy will be done, if she's a Christian mom. yeah right.  anyone who believes that happy horseshit wouldn't even flush the toilet, fuck it, Thy Will Be Done. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:27    never mind i just read a few more comments and SarahsDaugher might be the head of that braintrust -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:30    VD Quote 1. No, she made her choice when she decided to risk getting pregnant. If a woman doesn't wish to risk pregnancy, she should not get pregnant. It's not rocket science. 2. Not to the point of murdering others. See the organ transplant point above. 3. In other words, she's already had an opportunity to live her life. She's even already propagated. Regardless of whether we look at it from a logical, an evolutionary, or a moral perspective, the child's life should take priority... assuming it is an option. If the child simply isn't going to live, so be it. But if the child has a chance, that chance should not be taken away from him. who the fuck cares what he thinks?  Oh, yeah, Rich HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR YOU STARTED THIS THREAD HAR -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:37    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 27 2011,16:27) never mind i just read a few more comments and SarahsDaugher might be the head of that braintrust Have noticed I'm getting very profane & unladylike; shall stop for now. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:41    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Jan. 27 2011,16:30) VD Quote 1. No, she made her choice when she decided to risk getting pregnant. If a woman doesn't wish to risk pregnancy, she should not get pregnant. It's not rocket science. 2. Not to the point of murdering others. See the organ transplant point above. 3. In other words, she's already had an opportunity to live her life. She's even already propagated. Regardless of whether we look at it from a logical, an evolutionary, or a moral perspective, the child's life should take priority... assuming it is an option. If the child simply isn't going to live, so be it. But if the child has a chance, that chance should not be taken away from him. who the fuck cares what he thinks?  Oh, yeah, Rich HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR YOU STARTED THIS THREAD HAR As long as we're being virtuous: I've donated 172 units of blood; & am now being aged off the marrow donor list. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:49    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,14:52) Truth be told, I don't think... Fixed that for you. :p But you don't judge...only your imaginary friend does that, right?  Amazing how what your imaginary friend doesn't like is always so in line with your own squicked-out viewpoint.  Truly incredible. Does your imaginary friend permit an exception in case of rape, incest, the health and welfare of the mother, or delays caused by small minded bureaucratic twits? The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Ftk Posts: 2239 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:54    Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,15:16) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,15:52) Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,14:40)   Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html Crap woman, you're actually citing vox fucking crazy shit day?. Crap woman....read the comments....all the way down to mine.  Several people have accused me of not talking to Christians about my views on abortion.  I certainly have, but there was no way to prove that.   You got your proof now. Certainly doesn't mean I approve of abortion though.  I just don't think some people put much sincere thought into the matter. I can't imagine Vox easily making the decision to watch his wife die in order to save his 5th child if they decided to have another.  Seems to me he's saying it's a cut and dry decision...no questions asked....no remorse. Truth be told, I don't think you put a lot of thought into your views on abortion either. He (or you) would consider someone die to crap out a 5th child? Shit, I've put a lot of thought into my views on abortion; what thought have you put into forcing me (or anyone else) to being forced to give birth? I also don't kill endangered species. When's the last time you actually had a thought? Either you have no reading comprehension at all...or you just skim comments on this thread and the Vox thread.  Bug off, love.  Your not paying one bit of attention and you obviously don't take any of this very seriously or you would read before you spout off. -------------- "Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths"  -forastero

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,15:56    Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 27 2011,16:49) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,14:52) Truth be told, I don't think... Fixed that for you. :p But you don't judge...only your imaginary friend does that, right?  Amazing how what your imaginary friend doesn't like is always so in line with your own squicked-out viewpoint.  Truly incredible. Does your imaginary friend permit an exception in case of rape, incest, the health and welfare of the mother, or delays caused by small minded bureaucratic twits? The MadPanda, FCD Her imaginary friend has a very large penis. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Ftk Posts: 2239 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,16:00    Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 27 2011,15:49) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,14:52) Truth be told, I don't think... Fixed that for you. :p But you don't judge...only your imaginary friend does that, right?  Amazing how what your imaginary friend doesn't like is always so in line with your own squicked-out viewpoint.  Truly incredible. Does your imaginary friend permit an exception in case of rape, incest, the health and welfare of the mother, or delays caused by small minded bureaucratic twits? The MadPanda, FCD lol....we've gone over all that too... Hun, I honestly think you have a serious God fixation.  Get past it....might make your life less stressful. -------------- "Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths"  -forastero

blipey Posts: 2061 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,16:02    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,15:54) Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,15:16) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,15:52)   Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,14:40)   Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,13:57) http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011....ty.html Crap woman, you're actually citing vox fucking crazy shit day?. Crap woman....read the comments....all the way down to mine.  Several people have accused me of not talking to Christians about my views on abortion.  I certainly have, but there was no way to prove that.   You got your proof now. Certainly doesn't mean I approve of abortion though.  I just don't think some people put much sincere thought into the matter. I can't imagine Vox easily making the decision to watch his wife die in order to save his 5th child if they decided to have another.  Seems to me he's saying it's a cut and dry decision...no questions asked....no remorse. Truth be told, I don't think you put a lot of thought into your views on abortion either. He (or you) would consider someone die to crap out a 5th child? Shit, I've put a lot of thought into my views on abortion; what thought have you put into forcing me (or anyone else) to being forced to give birth? I also don't kill endangered species. When's the last time you actually had a thought? Either you have no reading comprehension at all...or you just skim comments on this thread and the Vox thread.  Bug off, love.  Your not paying one bit of attention and you obviously don't take any of this very seriously or you would read before you spout off. FTK espousing reading???  Is this the same FTK that tried valiantly to defend Behe's right not to read things?  Hilarious.  Even more hilarious because she doesn't know why it's funny. -------------- But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,16:07    Her imaginary friend has no optouts. The Bitch has to breed. Oh shit, am I being unkind to the big daddy in the sky? -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,16:44    FtK    1/27/11 4:30 PM   Quote Spacebunny: 1/27/11 4:14 PM:   Quote FtK: 1/27/11 4:07 PM: . But, you have no control over their final judgement. That is left to God alone.   Quote No one claimed otherwise dear - could you be a bit more of hysterical hand waving female? Doubtful. You are particularly pathetic in this regard because you come in here going on and on with your opinions, but when someone disagrees and shares theirs, you go all hypersonic and can't handle it, and telling people what they can and can't not do (I have no right to say something? Really?) and condemning them with ad hom attacks. Really dear. Go, take a deep calming breath and get over yourself. Love, you didn't just share your opinions...u placed judgement and condemnation on others who don't feel as you do. I didn't do that. I said you have a choice on the matter and neither of our choices is supported in biblical black and white. As for your condescending "female" remark...par for the course at this site. Any woman disagreeing with the great Vox is a no no. There was nothing "hypersonic" about my post. You have a right to say whatever you like...you don't have the right to judge in a situation like this....that right is reserved for God. The ad homs were to give you a bit of your own medicine...I've watched you throw them at people easily in the past. EDIT -bah quotes are wrong - may fix later. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:21    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,16:00) Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 27 2011,15:49) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,14:52) Truth be told, I don't think... Fixed that for you. :p But you don't judge...only your imaginary friend does that, right?  Amazing how what your imaginary friend doesn't like is always so in line with your own squicked-out viewpoint.  Truly incredible. Does your imaginary friend permit an exception in case of rape, incest, the health and welfare of the mother, or delays caused by small minded bureaucratic twits? The MadPanda, FCD lol....we've gone over all that too... Hun, I honestly think you have a serious God fixation.  Get past it....might make your life less stressful. You don't seem to think very much, period. I don't have a fixation on your imaginary friend.  I do have an acute awareness of the problems caused by delusional people who use their imaginary friends as an excuse to be small-minded judgmental inquisitors and stick their prejudices and presuppositions into other people's lives. There is a difference between the two, not that you seem to grasp this. Just as you fail to grasp that your stance is neither consistent nor particularly moral (in that you seem quite happy to impose costs on others that you are unwilling to bear yourself, and to deny your responsibility in imposing them). But as long as you don't judge other people's choices, I guess that's okay, isn't it? The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:22    Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,15:56) Her imaginary friend has a very large penis. You owe me a new monitor.  This one's got coffee all over it. The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Ftk Posts: 2239 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:32    Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 27 2011,16:44) FtK    1/27/11 4:30 PM   Quote Spacebunny: 1/27/11 4:14 PM:   Quote FtK: 1/27/11 4:07 PM: . But, you have no control over their final judgement. That is left to God alone.   Quote No one claimed otherwise dear - could you be a bit more of hysterical hand waving female? Doubtful. You are particularly pathetic in this regard because you come in here going on and on with your opinions, but when someone disagrees and shares theirs, you go all hypersonic and can't handle it, and telling people what they can and can't not do (I have no right to say something? Really?) and condemning them with ad hom attacks. Really dear. Go, take a deep calming breath and get over yourself. Love, you didn't just share your opinions...u placed judgement and condemnation on others who don't feel as you do. I didn't do that. I said you have a choice on the matter and neither of our choices is supported in biblical black and white. As for your condescending "female" remark...par for the course at this site. Any woman disagreeing with the great Vox is a no no. There was nothing "hypersonic" about my post. You have a right to say whatever you like...you don't have the right to judge in a situation like this....that right is reserved for God. The ad homs were to give you a bit of your own medicine...I've watched you throw them at people easily in the past. EDIT -bah quotes are wrong - may fix later. Well, she's right about my definition of judge if you read further down the thread.   Doesn't matter....she's welcome to her choice....I find nothing biblical about it.  So, one would have to base it on what their own family would want done in that situation.   I've talked to my husband and boys about this very issue.  They don't feel the same way as the Vox family does.  They want me to stay with them, and allow their little sibling go with the Lord.   I also threw in an ad hom that I'm not proud of, but SP and I have never been on the best since the time I disagreed with her quite a while ago, so I let one rip.  My bad. -------------- "Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths"  -forastero

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:38    I have just read that VD thread. I am utterly disgusted. The hypocritical, sanctomonious moralising by inarticulate religious bigots is unimaginable. Bed time I think. I'm going to read something edifying and hope that when I wake in the morning it will allllll be better. Louis -------------- Bye.

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:46    Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 27 2011,18:22) Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,15:56) Her imaginary friend has a very large penis. You owe me a new monitor.  This one's got coffee all over it. The MadPanda, FCD Sorry there. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Ftk Posts: 2239 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:48    Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 27 2011,17:21) Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,16:00) Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 27 2011,15:49)   Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,14:52) Truth be told, I don't think... Fixed that for you. :p But you don't judge...only your imaginary friend does that, right?  Amazing how what your imaginary friend doesn't like is always so in line with your own squicked-out viewpoint.  Truly incredible. Does your imaginary friend permit an exception in case of rape, incest, the health and welfare of the mother, or delays caused by small minded bureaucratic twits? The MadPanda, FCD lol....we've gone over all that too... Hun, I honestly think you have a serious God fixation.  Get past it....might make your life less stressful. You don't seem to think very much, period. I don't have a fixation on your imaginary friend.  I do have an acute awareness of the problems caused by delusional people who use their imaginary friends as an excuse to be small-minded judgmental inquisitors and stick their prejudices and presuppositions into other people's lives. There is a difference between the two, not that you seem to grasp this. Just as you fail to grasp that your stance is neither consistent nor particularly moral (in that you seem quite happy to impose costs on others that you are unwilling to bear yourself, and to deny your responsibility in imposing them). But as long as you don't judge other people's choices, I guess that's okay, isn't it? The MadPanda, FCD You're right...I judge...I wasn't considering all aspects of judgement.  My mistake...had one thing on my mind. *To form an opinion or evaluation. (this i do in regard to abortion.) *To act or decide as a judge. (this I don't do, and I leave it to God.) I apologize for the confusion. "Amazing how what your imaginary friend doesn't like is always so in line with your own squicked-out viewpoint.  Truly incredible." Uh, no.  This I never claimed to be true.  I can't know His mind other than what I read in scripture, and some of it is not in black and white. "I do have an acute awareness of the problems caused by delusional people who use their imaginary friends as an excuse to be small-minded judgmental inquisitors and stick their prejudices and presuppositions into other people's lives." And, likewise, I have an acute awareness of the problems caused by a faction of non-religious, small-minded judgmental inquisitors who stick their prejudices and presuppositions into other people's lives. -------------- "Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths"  -forastero

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:52    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,23:48) [SNIP] And, likewise, I have an acute awareness of the problems caused by a faction of non-religious, small-minded judgmental inquisitors who stick their prejudices and presuppositions into other people's lives. ORLY? And where, when and how, do they do this? By not falling to their knees and living how you and your god-soaked fellow travellers tell them to? Please. Your cluelessness is only matched by your wanton paranoia. Louis -------------- Bye.

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:54    Does your god have hair around his anus? -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,17:57    Quote (khan @ Jan. 27 2011,23:54) Does your god have hair around his anus? Mine used to but he waxes and bleaches. Does that count? All this arse talk has made me think of a sketch by the excellent Aussie comic Steve Hughes on a mildly related topic. Teh NSFW Funneh Louis ETA: P.S. I needed comedy to enlighten me. The darkness of mood brought on by reading the VD thread could have caused unrest. I have sufficient money for plane tickets and a will to batter some fools. I thought it best to have a laugh instead. -------------- Bye.

MadPanda, FCD Posts: 267 Joined: Nov. 2010 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,18:27    Quote (Ftk @ Jan. 27 2011,17:48) Uh, no.  This I never claimed to be true.  I can't know His mind other than what I read in scripture, and some of it is not in black and white. And now we're back to those oh so very dreary questions "how do you know?" and "why should we accept your interpretation over someone else's?" Your claim to know your imaginary friend's mind is pretty funny, though.  Are you a mind reader of mythical proportions as well? The MadPanda, FCD -------------- "No matter how ridiculous the internet tough guy, a thorough mocking is more effective than a swift kick to the gentleman vegetables with a hobnailed boot" --Louis

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2011,18:28    Quote (Louis @ Jan. 27 2011,18:38) I have just read that VD thread. I am utterly disgusted. The hypocritical, sanctomonious moralising by inarticulate religious bigots is unimaginable. Bed time I think. I'm going to read something edifying and hope that when I wake in the morning it will allllll be better. Louis It's a bizarre thread, to be sure. I got through about a quarter of it, and can't go further. Anyone there raise the following obvious theological point? Vox cites the following as the governing commandment from Christianity: "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Vox's OP and the ensuing discussion, so far as I was able to stomach it, concerns the actions of the hospital, not the mother, and then the reaction of the church to the hospital's choice. Yet Jesus didn't say "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man compel another man to lay down his life for his friends." So the exhortation has no bearing upon the hospital's behavior - as the hospital lays down little in so compelling a woman's sacrifice. Further, dying for another because one is compelled to - and I gather the Catholic church would so compel women if it had its peculiar druthers - is not "laying down one's life for another." Perhaps some Christian women have taken Jesus' words to heart and chosen to put themselves at risk of death for the lives of their unborn babies - genuinely offering to lay down their lives for another. But that's just the point: If there are such women, the "laying down of their lives" inheres in the choice to do so. If it isn't a chosen action, then it isn't the action Jesus exhorts at all. So, from every direction, Vox is completely out to lunch to in claiming that the above commandment is the governing passage from Christianity in this instance. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

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