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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2012,21:18   

Quote (OgreMkV @ May 12 2012,15:48)
New Sea World photos.

Let me know you can't get to them.  I'm experimenting.

Most of them work fine, but I can't seem to access the gruesome one of the trainer being eaten by the killer whale. If I didn't know better, I'd say there wasn't one in the album. It keeps skipping past it or something.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2012,21:40   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2012,21:18)
Quote (OgreMkV @ May 12 2012,15:48)
New Sea World photos.

Let me know you can't get to them.  I'm experimenting.

Most of them work fine, but I can't seem to access the gruesome one of the trainer being eaten by the killer whale. If I didn't know better, I'd say there wasn't one in the album. It keeps skipping past it or something.

Nothing was as gruesome as the red and blue furred mammals singing and dancing...

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Kattarina98



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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2012,10:18   

@ dvkannon and afarensis

Thanks for the clarification re cave art. Seems the authors of the paper just wanted to write a snappy introduction, thus encroaching on a field of science they have no expertise in (cognitive development). Of course, neither have I. :-))
Did any of you see the film about the Chauvet cave? I loved it.
http://www.wernerherzog.com/index.p....p?id=64


@ OgreMkv

I can't view the pictures. :-(

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Timothy McDougald



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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2012,11:15   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 13 2012,10:18)
@ dvkannon and afarensis

Thanks for the clarification re cave art. Seems the authors of the paper just wanted to write a snappy introduction, thus encroaching on a field of science they have no expertise in (cognitive development). Of course, neither have I. :-))
Did any of you see the film about the Chauvet cave? I loved it.
http://www.wernerherzog.com/index.p....p?id=64


@ OgreMkv

I can't view the pictures. :-(

No, I haven't seen it yet. I hear it is fantastic.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2012,18:02   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2012,07:52)
Aw. I didn't do something epic for my 5000th post. In my defense, that probably occurred around finals week.

Dang! What a milestone! :)



(Dunno what the "F" is for... At least it ain't about OChem...)

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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2012,18:30   

Quote (dvunkannon @ May 12 2012,13:21)
Quote (J-Dog @ May 12 2012,12:08)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2012,07:52)
Aw. I didn't do something epic for my 5000th post. In my defense, that probably occurred around finals week.

Lou FCD - I don't care what all the other posters here think, I think your posts are all epic...!~

Brown-nosing will not be rewarded with POTW.

That's not brown-nosing!  

I call it "Preparation UD" -  thinking of going back to the lab and creating designing an all-new cotton based protoplasmic personality.  And as you all know, "brown-nosing" as you so rudely called it, is an excellent survival tactic.

ps: Thanks for the POTW!!!

Edited by J-Dog on May 13 2012,18:35

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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2012,18:31   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 13 2012,10:18)
@ dvkannon and afarensis

Thanks for the clarification re cave art. Seems the authors of the paper just wanted to write a snappy introduction, thus encroaching on a field of science they have no expertise in (cognitive development). Of course, neither have I. :-))
Did any of you see the film about the Chauvet cave? I loved it.
http://www.wernerherzog.com/index.p....p?id=64


@ OgreMkv

I can't view the pictures. :-(

Yeah.  Mom and Dad did great work!

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2012,18:33   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 13 2012,10:18)
@ dvkannon and afarensis

Thanks for the clarification re cave art. Seems the authors of the paper just wanted to write a snappy introduction, thus encroaching on a field of science they have no expertise in (cognitive development). Of course, neither have I. :-))
Did any of you see the film about the Chauvet cave? I loved it.
http://www.wernerherzog.com/index.p....p?id=64


@ OgreMkv

I can't view the pictures. :-(

A) You can friend me on facebook (if you're on it)
B) I have no idea.

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George



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,07:28   

Where I was last week:


  
dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,08:46   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2012,22:11)
Quote (dvunkannon @ May 12 2012,14:21)
Quote (J-Dog @ May 12 2012,12:08)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2012,07:52)
Aw. I didn't do something epic for my 5000th post. In my defense, that probably occurred around finals week.

Lou FCD - I don't care what all the other posters here think, I think your posts are all epic...!~

Brown-nosing will not be rewarded with POTW.

Shows what you know.

:)

I'm just the straight man...

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,21:17   

Quote (dvunkannon @ May 14 2012,08:46)
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2012,22:11)
Quote (dvunkannon @ May 12 2012,14:21)
 
Quote (J-Dog @ May 12 2012,12:08)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2012,07:52)
Aw. I didn't do something epic for my 5000th post. In my defense, that probably occurred around finals week.

Lou FCD - I don't care what all the other posters here think, I think your posts are all epic...!~

Brown-nosing will not be rewarded with POTW.

Shows what you know.

:)

I'm just the straight man...

...and a straight shooter too.  No wonder you don't have posting privaleges at UD! :)

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2012,21:30   

Quote (George @ May 14 2012,08:28)
Where I was last week:


That's just cool.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: May 15 2012,17:56   

How wonderful! :)

There is a park in the Midwest with this fireplace:


I have begged Rev. Barky to take me there, but first we gotta get the Glastron Beagle out of storage. ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: May 15 2012,19:26   

Quote (Kristine @ May 15 2012,17:56)
How wonderful! :)

There is a park in the Midwest with this fireplace:


I have begged Rev. Barky to take me there, but first we gotta get the Glastron Beagle out of storage. ;)

"Hey Kristine - I'm feeling a litle chilly.  Throw another Christrian onto the fire, would you please?"*



* Kristine's picture and post as reported by the Brand New UD News Desk.  D. O'Leary reporting.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 17 2012,08:46   

HELP!!

I'm working on this project and the discussion revolves around changes to the C-14/C-12 ratio because of magnetic field changes, increasing and decreasing the cosmic radiation, resulting in more or less C-14 in the atmosphere.

Now, my question is... if the amount of C-14 in the atmosphere increases, shouldn't that lower the radiocarbon date (before calibration)?

This sounds right to me, but I'm having trouble showing it mathematically.

Any resources or help would be greatly appreciated.  And if I'm mistaken and the C-14 is smaller, do let me know.

edit:
FOUND IT!

I found the C-14/age curve and it show the inverse relationship.

Edited by OgreMkV on May 17 2012,09:20

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Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: May 17 2012,12:16   

Quote (OgreMkV @ May 17 2012,08:46)
HELP!!

I'm working on this project and the discussion revolves around changes to the C-14/C-12 ratio because of magnetic field changes, increasing and decreasing the cosmic radiation, resulting in more or less C-14 in the atmosphere.

Now, my question is... if the amount of C-14 in the atmosphere increases, shouldn't that lower the radiocarbon date (before calibration)?

This sounds right to me, but I'm having trouble showing it mathematically.

Any resources or help would be greatly appreciated.  And if I'm mistaken and the C-14 is smaller, do let me know.

edit:
FOUND IT!

I found the C-14/age curve and it show the inverse relationship.

All radiocarbon dates use 1950 as the reference for "now", because of C-14 from nuclear bomb fallout.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: May 17 2012,21:01   

Wow, three days after teh house is listed, and Rev. Barky has an offer. :)

ETA to wave at IanBrown_101!

Edited by Kristine on May 17 2012,21:04

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(Permalink) Posted: May 18 2012,07:46   

Wolfie can has puppies!!! (4 boys, 5 girls)

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: May 18 2012,08:40   

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Wolfie can has puppies!!! (4 boys, 5 girls)

Huzzah! When do we get to "Awwwww..." over teh pitchers?!?!

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: May 18 2012,09:02   

Quote (fnxtr @ May 18 2012,08:40)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 18 2012,05:46)
Wolfie can has puppies!!! (4 boys, 5 girls)

Huzzah! When do we get to "Awwwww..." over teh pitchers?!?!

sigh... the missus says I can't have a dog that weighs more than her and eats more per day than our family... double sigh.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 18 2012,09:30   

Quote (fnxtr @ May 18 2012,08:40)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 18 2012,05:46)
Wolfie can has puppies!!! (4 boys, 5 girls)

Huzzah! When do we get to "Awwwww..." over teh pitchers?!?!

Don't forget to buy them a skateboard! ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: May 18 2012,20:22   

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@ Daniel:

I would like to add to the following quote from Bill:
 
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Recall that the problem with supernatural causation is that any observation can be reconciled with it. Because any observation can be reconciled with it, it is incapable of making testable predictions.

This is the case because we know zero about the designer. This problem can only be solved when we have actual candidates for being the designer, candidates from wich we know the capabilities and limitations. This is exactly how real world design detection (in archeology) works.


Really, it is like the evolutionary predecessors to a flat earth: javascript:emoticon(':O')

http://arthuriandaily.wordpress.com/2012.......t-earth :O

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 18 2012,20:24   

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 27 2008,16:32)
@ Daniel:

I would like to add to the following quote from Bill:
 
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Recall that the problem with supernatural causation is that any observation can be reconciled with it. Because any observation can be reconciled with it, it is incapable of making testable predictions.

This is the case because we know zero about the designer. This problem can only be solved when we have actual candidates for being the designer, candidates from wich we know the capabilities and limitations. This is exactly how real world design detection (in archeology) works.


Really, it is like the evolutionary predecessors to a flat earth:

http://arthuriandaily.wordpress.com/2012.......t-earth :O

  
dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2012,13:01   

Quote (OgreMkV @ May 17 2012,09:46)
HELP!!

I'm working on this project and the discussion revolves around changes to the C-14/C-12 ratio because of magnetic field changes, increasing and decreasing the cosmic radiation, resulting in more or less C-14 in the atmosphere.

Now, my question is... if the amount of C-14 in the atmosphere increases, shouldn't that lower the radiocarbon date (before calibration)?

This sounds right to me, but I'm having trouble showing it mathematically.

Any resources or help would be greatly appreciated.  And if I'm mistaken and the C-14 is smaller, do let me know.

edit:
FOUND IT!

I found the C-14/age curve and it show the inverse relationship.

I'm not sure I buy the argument that a change in the Earth's magnetic field strength would change the amount or energy of cosmic rays entering the atmosphere and creating  C-14.

It seems to me that a variation in field strength would only affect the the distribution of incidence into the atmosphere (towards or away from the magnetic poles) but not cause charged particles to hit/avoid the planet or be more/less energetic. Since the C-14 is created in the upper atmosphere (I'm assuming) I would expect it to be thoroughly mixed and therefore just as likely to get incorporated (or not) in organic matter as C-14 created in the tropics.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2012,15:16   

Quote (dvunkannon @ May 21 2012,13:01)
Quote (OgreMkV @ May 17 2012,09:46)
HELP!!

I'm working on this project and the discussion revolves around changes to the C-14/C-12 ratio because of magnetic field changes, increasing and decreasing the cosmic radiation, resulting in more or less C-14 in the atmosphere.

Now, my question is... if the amount of C-14 in the atmosphere increases, shouldn't that lower the radiocarbon date (before calibration)?

This sounds right to me, but I'm having trouble showing it mathematically.

Any resources or help would be greatly appreciated.  And if I'm mistaken and the C-14 is smaller, do let me know.

edit:
FOUND IT!

I found the C-14/age curve and it show the inverse relationship.

I'm not sure I buy the argument that a change in the Earth's magnetic field strength would change the amount or energy of cosmic rays entering the atmosphere and creating  C-14.

It seems to me that a variation in field strength would only affect the the distribution of incidence into the atmosphere (towards or away from the magnetic poles) but not cause charged particles to hit/avoid the planet or be more/less energetic. Since the C-14 is created in the upper atmosphere (I'm assuming) I would expect it to be thoroughly mixed and therefore just as likely to get incorporated (or not) in organic matter as C-14 created in the tropics.

Cosmic ray variations due to the Earth’s magnetic field

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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2012,21:11   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ May 21 2012,16:16)
Quote (dvunkannon @ May 21 2012,13:01)
Quote (OgreMkV @ May 17 2012,09:46)
HELP!!

I'm working on this project and the discussion revolves around changes to the C-14/C-12 ratio because of magnetic field changes, increasing and decreasing the cosmic radiation, resulting in more or less C-14 in the atmosphere.

Now, my question is... if the amount of C-14 in the atmosphere increases, shouldn't that lower the radiocarbon date (before calibration)?

This sounds right to me, but I'm having trouble showing it mathematically.

Any resources or help would be greatly appreciated.  And if I'm mistaken and the C-14 is smaller, do let me know.

edit:
FOUND IT!

I found the C-14/age curve and it show the inverse relationship.

I'm not sure I buy the argument that a change in the Earth's magnetic field strength would change the amount or energy of cosmic rays entering the atmosphere and creating  C-14.

It seems to me that a variation in field strength would only affect the the distribution of incidence into the atmosphere (towards or away from the magnetic poles) but not cause charged particles to hit/avoid the planet or be more/less energetic. Since the C-14 is created in the upper atmosphere (I'm assuming) I would expect it to be thoroughly mixed and therefore just as likely to get incorporated (or not) in organic matter as C-14 created in the tropics.

Cosmic ray variations due to the Earth’s magnetic field

Thank you for helping me learn something new!

I assume the neutron monitors are observing neutrons that are a byproduct of the cosmic rays. As neutral particles, the earth's magnetic field should not deflect them at all.

Still, the variation is 0.5 of some unit for 12 hours? Because low energy cosmic rays got through a weakened field. Are these low energy cosmic rays of the right energy to create C-14?

Accepting the possibility that there could be an effect, it seems that times of pole reversal and disappearance of the earth's field might leave a signal in C-12/C-14 ratios, but most of those events have happened too long ago for the C-14 to survive.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2012,21:52   

Quote (dvunkannon @ May 21 2012,21:11)
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ May 21 2012,16:16)
Quote (dvunkannon @ May 21 2012,13:01)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ May 17 2012,09:46)
HELP!!

I'm working on this project and the discussion revolves around changes to the C-14/C-12 ratio because of magnetic field changes, increasing and decreasing the cosmic radiation, resulting in more or less C-14 in the atmosphere.

Now, my question is... if the amount of C-14 in the atmosphere increases, shouldn't that lower the radiocarbon date (before calibration)?

This sounds right to me, but I'm having trouble showing it mathematically.

Any resources or help would be greatly appreciated.  And if I'm mistaken and the C-14 is smaller, do let me know.

edit:
FOUND IT!

I found the C-14/age curve and it show the inverse relationship.

I'm not sure I buy the argument that a change in the Earth's magnetic field strength would change the amount or energy of cosmic rays entering the atmosphere and creating  C-14.

It seems to me that a variation in field strength would only affect the the distribution of incidence into the atmosphere (towards or away from the magnetic poles) but not cause charged particles to hit/avoid the planet or be more/less energetic. Since the C-14 is created in the upper atmosphere (I'm assuming) I would expect it to be thoroughly mixed and therefore just as likely to get incorporated (or not) in organic matter as C-14 created in the tropics.

Cosmic ray variations due to the Earth’s magnetic field

Thank you for helping me learn something new!

I assume the neutron monitors are observing neutrons that are a byproduct of the cosmic rays. As neutral particles, the earth's magnetic field should not deflect them at all.

Still, the variation is 0.5 of some unit for 12 hours? Because low energy cosmic rays got through a weakened field. Are these low energy cosmic rays of the right energy to create C-14?

Accepting the possibility that there could be an effect, it seems that times of pole reversal and disappearance of the earth's field might leave a signal in C-12/C-14 ratios, but most of those events have happened too long ago for the C-14 to survive.

The cosmic rays are charged, after interacting with the atmosphere they produce secondary particles, said neutrons.

As you say, geomagnetic reversal is not visible for C-14, but there are cosmogenic isotopes, which I learned about via climate and when some IDiot was arguing here about radiodating (specifically strontium).  I had to look it up - forastero.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 22 2012,13:49   

Sorry to bring this crap here, but at some point, you know, elephant in the room, mammoth in the porcelaine shop...

Louis at Pharyngula:

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Given that Abbie’s position on the matter is so utterly awful it’s not even wrong, this does not bode well. If you’d care to expand on what you mean and what position this is and why you hold it, I at least will listen. It’s pretty old hat around here though, I wouldn’t expect a great deal of sympathy from me or anyone. On this at least, Abbie done fucked up and done fucked up again and again.

Louis


How has Abbie done fucked up? And done fucked up again? Please?

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(Permalink) Posted: May 22 2012,16:18   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ May 22 2012,13:49)
Sorry to bring this crap here, but at some point, you know, elephant in the room, mammoth in the porcelaine shop...

Louis at Pharyngula:

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Given that Abbie’s position on the matter is so utterly awful it’s not even wrong, this does not bode well. If you’d care to expand on what you mean and what position this is and why you hold it, I at least will listen. It’s pretty old hat around here though, I wouldn’t expect a great deal of sympathy from me or anyone. On this at least, Abbie done fucked up and done fucked up again and again.

Louis


How has Abbie done fucked up? And done fucked up again? Please?

It appears to be more of the cult of PZ.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 22 2012,16:54   

FYI - I just had a go at commenting on one of James Barham's entries over at TheBestSchools.org blog.

http://www.thebestschools.org/bestsch....italism

I registered, entered my comment and waited. The familiar (to those who have posted at UD) "Your comment is awaiting moderation." message appeared over my text. I waited.

But lo! Today my text is gone. It looks like Barham has learned a few things from DeNews and the rest of the UD/DI crowd.

Based on how often Barham's blog is quoted at UD, the appearance of DO'L as a contributor at TBS, and the fawning bio of Barham currently up at ENV, it would appear that the DI link farm has been expanded.

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