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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2015,06:30   

http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2015....en.html

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2015,06:34   

Trying this again:

http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2015.......en.html


ETA: After I posted this my first attempt showed up. Apparently the 'page bug' that is mentioned sometimes prevented the first one from showing up.

Edited by The whole truth on Dec. 21 2015,04:41

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2015,06:47   

I didn't realize that gildo is involved with dembski's so-called "Evolutionary Informatics Lab" and thought that G.D. (the owner of the Encyclopedia of American Loons site) must be wrong so I checked and he's right:

http://www.evoinfo.org/people....e

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2015,12:54   

I see Atom there also. He seems to have disappeared from UD after the WEASEL Wars. I seem to remember he came down against KF in the latching frakas.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2015,18:10   

I just killed some of my brain cells by reading the FAQ page at evoinfo. Among the tard to be found there is this crap:



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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2015,20:22   

My partner just finished teaching her first semester at KU, and wrote up a little bit of the experience on her blog: Why there are still monkeys: lessons from teaching evolution in Kansas.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2015,11:50   

Quote (Learned Hand @ Dec. 30 2015,20:22)
My partner just finished teaching her first semester at KU, and wrote up a little bit of the experience on her blog: Why there are still monkeys: lessons from teaching evolution in Kansas.

It wasn't very long before this showed up in the comments:
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Jennifer , believing in evolution is like believing the dictionary came about by an explosion in a printing press.


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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2015,12:59   

Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Dec. 31 2015,09:50)
Quote (Learned Hand @ Dec. 30 2015,20:22)
My partner just finished teaching her first semester at KU, and wrote up a little bit of the experience on her blog: Why there are still monkeys: lessons from teaching evolution in Kansas.

It wasn't very long before this showed up in the comments:
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Jennifer , believing in evolution is like believing the dictionary came about by an explosion in a printing press.

Wow.  I see he also brings up dogs turning into cats, 2LOT and the Goldilocks zone, in just a couple of paragraphs.  I'm surprised he didn't end with the one about the marine beating up the professor.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2015,15:16   

Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 21 2015,18:10)
I just killed some of my brain cells by reading the FAQ page at evoinfo. Among the tard to be found there is this crap:


Who are they?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2015,18:20   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 31 2015,10:59)
 
Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Dec. 31 2015,09:50)
 
Quote (Learned Hand @ Dec. 30 2015,20:22)
My partner just finished teaching her first semester at KU, and wrote up a little bit of the experience on her blog: Why there are still monkeys: lessons from teaching evolution in Kansas.

It wasn't very long before this showed up in the comments:
   
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Jennifer , believing in evolution is like believing the dictionary came about by an explosion in a printing press.

Wow.  I see he also brings up dogs turning into cats, 2LOT and the Goldilocks zone, in just a couple of paragraphs.  I'm surprised he didn't end with the one about the marine beating up the professor.

"... and that marine's name was... Albert Einstein!!!"  

Checkmate, Darwinists!

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2015,19:47   

Quote (Quack @ Dec. 31 2015,13:16)
Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 21 2015,18:10)
I just killed some of my brain cells by reading the FAQ page at evoinfo. Among the tard to be found there is this crap:


Who are they?

Hi Quack, if by "they" you mean the members of the evolutionary informatics lab (EIL), this link will take you to a page where they are shown:

http://www.evoinfo.org/people.....le....e

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2016,09:33   

Thanks! So much Ph.D. research - I'd love to and can't wait to see more evidence of Intelligent Design. I am among the lucky ones who don't care either way as long as there is life on the planet.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 01 2016,14:29   



Hope all y'all had new years as happy as hers.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 02 2016,12:17   

In case anyone is interested, michael egnor is gushing tard at Recursivity.

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2016,01:29   

Quote (The whole truth @ Jan. 02 2016,12:17)
In case anyone is interested, michael egnor is gushing tard at Recursivity.

That "Yarwain" entity sounds a lot like "Gregory".

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 03 2016,16:12   

Quote (timothya @ Jan. 02 2016,23:29)
Quote (The whole truth @ Jan. 02 2016,12:17)
In case anyone is interested, michael egnor is gushing tard at Recursivity.

That "Yarwain" entity sounds a lot like "Gregory".

Yeah, I too thought of Gregory (who comments a lot at TSZ) as I read Yarwain's comments. I kinda doubt that they're the same person though because Gregory is way more belligerent than Yarwain.

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2016,14:28   

For those following the adventures of Bozo Haram in Oregon:

Twitter - Bundy Erotic Fanfic

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The small improvised washtub was filled with two things: Cletus... and Cheetos. "C'mon, Ammon," he purred. "Snack time."


Edited by Amadan on Jan. 07 2016,20:29

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2016,15:30   

Quote (Amadan @ Jan. 07 2016,14:28)
For those following the adventures of Bozo Haram in Oregon:

Twitter - Bundy Erotic Fanfic

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The small improvised washtub was filled with two things: Cletus... and Cheetos. "C'mon, Ammon," he purred. "Snack time."

Why stop at fan fiction? Someone needs to start a Go Fund Me campaign to raise money for the sole purpose of sending phallic shaped chocolate pastries to these loons.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2016,13:03   

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Why stop at fan fiction? Someone needs to start a Go Fund Me campaign to raise money for the sole purpose of sending phallic shaped chocolate pastries to these loons.


Vegans are sending food. Isn't that torture enough?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2016,18:27   

Shocking news from the Yee-hawdist Occupation:

At Bundy encampment, outsider says militants 'attacked' his group
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BURNS -- Violence broke out at the Bundy compound Wednesday night between its militant occupants and members of an outside group whose leader says he wants to get women and children out of the compound.

[ beheaded snip]

That's when the trouble started.

Arthur said Cooper punched him in the back of the head, then attacked his comrade, who goes by the name of J Dog. The group retreated, and J Dog went to the hospital.


Say it ain't so!!

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2016,18:34   

Sure his name wasn't D-Money, or Shifty?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 08 2016,18:42   

Quote (Amadan @ Jan. 08 2016,18:27)
Shocking news from the Yee-hawdist Occupation:

At Bundy encampment, outsider says militants 'attacked' his group
 
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BURNS -- Violence broke out at the Bundy compound Wednesday night between its militant occupants and members of an outside group whose leader says he wants to get women and children out of the compound.

[ beheaded snip]

That's when the trouble started.

Arthur said Cooper punched him in the back of the head, then attacked his comrade, who goes by the name of J Dog. The group retreated, and J Dog went to the hospital.


Say it ain't so!!

Any word on whether he was carrying Ebola or church burning supplies?

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2016,01:45   

I looked but couldn't find a thread where these links would be completely appropriate so I'm posting them here. If there is a more appropriate thread, will a moderator please move them to it?

Religious decline does not equal moral decline, says researcher:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....117.htm

Religious upbringing linked to less altruism, study of children suggests:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....916.htm

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2016,01:57   

Quote (The whole truth @ Jan. 17 2016,01:45)
I looked but couldn't find a thread where these links would be completely appropriate so I'm posting them here. If there is a more appropriate thread, will a moderator please move them to it?

Religious decline does not equal moral decline, says researcher:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....117.htm

Religious upbringing linked to less altruism, study of children suggests:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....916.htm

Color me surprised. Not.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2016,11:15   

The bathroom wall is the best place for that sort of thing. It's where i post stuff like that.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2016,02:42   

Hi all – just a driveby post which I’ll repost at TSZ/ATBC (whichever one you’re not reading right now). I’m currently attending the ConspiraSea Cruise, which I know is of interest to the regulars. I’m submitting updates as I write them to my wife, who’s kindly formatting them and putting them up on her blog, Violent Metaphors. The first one’s up now and more will be coming later in the week. No creationism action but plenty of anti-vaxers and GMO fearmongering and legal mumbo-jumbo.

Sorry for the literally copy-and-pasted comment; internet is not cheap at sea. Which is annoying, but on the other hand, I have internet at sea, which is borderline miraculous. A miracle I’m parceling out precious minutes at a time, logging on to reload pages and drop prewritten comments/emails.

Anyway, we’d be delighted if you’d stop by Violent Metaphors to take a look and drop a comment—especially positive ones. Not for the sake of my ravening ego, but because I’m sure people from the cruise are reading (although not many and not often, given the data rates) and it’d be nice to show more positive, friendly engagement from the skeptic community. After all, the attendees are decent human beings. Some of the speakers make my hair stand up a bit, but more on that at VM when I’ve had a chance to write it up.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 28 2016,07:03   

Many thanks for your efforts, LH. To maintain sanity in those surroundings (you do, don't you?) is quite admirable.

Come to mention it, any chance you could ask your travelling companions what type of flag you need for a court of Admirable Law?

Some pals and I occasionally dip a toe into our local variant of your Sovereign Citizen/Tax Protestor wingnuttery. Over here, they tend to follow the lead of their UK counterparts and characterise themselves as 'Freemen on the Land'. Our recent [and ongoing] Financial Unpleasantness has led many desperate people saddled with debts to pay attention to the grifters and charlatans who trade in this stuff. One of the more entertaining regional variations that we have is a fantasy of the resurrection [or continuing, but hidden, persistence] of Brehon Law. After all. "Common Law" is an alien British invention, and "Natural Law" has been corrupted by the Illuminati who run Vatican Inc.

Fun stuff, provided you disregard the poor unsuspecting marks who get taken in and discarded by the gobshites who peddle this stuff.

Your reports are very interesting, well written and (most importantly) empathetic. I could not do that, and I commend you for it.

Edited by Amadan on Jan. 28 2016,13:07

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 01 2016,15:27   

Just stumbled across this.

http://reason.com/archive....surgenc

I don't suppose the source will generate much enthusiasm here, but I have argued for some time that nukes are the only near term  [<20 years] way of getting off fossil fuel.

Looks like nuclear will be entering the mix within ten years.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2016,15:38   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 02 2016,06:27)
Just stumbled across this.

http://reason.com/archive....surgenc

I don't suppose the source will generate much enthusiasm here, but I have argued for some time that nukes are the only near term  [<20 years] way of getting off fossil fuel.

Looks like nuclear will be entering the mix within ten years.

What is the energy situation in the US? In Australia since GFC our energy use has dropped. This is due to many reasons including drop in industrial production, increase of residential solar and people just using less power. This has resulted in that when we close some of the older coal plants they wont be replaced.

Given that it takes 15 years to build a plant even in a friendly regulatory environment, there is a risk that the demand wont be there. I think that China is an exception due to its growth and the problems with air pollution.

Also unfortunately most groups pushing for a post fossil fuel world are anti-nuclear and national score cards are based on percentages of renewables used - not on percentages of non-fossil fuel energy.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2016,19:02   

Quote (MichaelJ @ Feb. 05 2016,23:38)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Feb. 02 2016,06:27)
Just stumbled across this.

http://reason.com/archive....surgenc

I don't suppose the source will generate much enthusiasm here, but I have argued for some time that nukes are the only near term  [<20 years] way of getting off fossil fuel.

Looks like nuclear will be entering the mix within ten years.

What is the energy situation in the US? In Australia since GFC our energy use has dropped. This is due to many reasons including drop in industrial production, increase of residential solar and people just using less power. This has resulted in that when we close some of the older coal plants they wont be replaced.

Given that it takes 15 years to build a plant even in a friendly regulatory environment, there is a risk that the demand wont be there. I think that China is an exception due to its growth and the problems with air pollution.

Also unfortunately most groups pushing for a post fossil fuel world are anti-nuclear and national score cards are based on percentages of renewables used - not on percentages of non-fossil fuel energy.

Very detailed picture of China's energy use and 24 planned Nuculeer Power stations.

The sheer scale of the volumes are astonishing. The take away is that even with all their effort to get away from fossil fuels the CO2 levels in in 2030 will still be twice 2005 levels.

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