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Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2016,06:30    Quote (Leftfield @ Feb. 04 2016,14:12) Law #1: For any creature with legs, the legs in their resting state will be exactly as long as the distance from the creature's body to the ground. Therefore designed. I mean what are the chances, out of all possible leg lengths? Ha! This plant matter has clearly evolved then! -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2016,13:24    Re "2.  Any sufficiently advanced Intelligent Design Theory is indistinguishable from Creationism." Nothing more, nothing less, nothing else? (To borrow a phrase)

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2016,19:21    Now about that furniture in an earlier post - let's hope nobody tries to turn the tables on you!

tsig Posts: 339 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2016,20:53    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 03 2016,17:52) Barfy Arrogant is in the process of writing several reviews of Denton's new rehash of his old book ($7:15 from Amazon). The first one is here. Barry spewage Now that he has banned all but an amputee's handful of opponents, I wonder what we can expect in response. Mullings bowing in deference? Virgil lubricating his lips? Louis (Mapou) leading the charge at the lack of opposition? BA77 wondering why Barry banned him?   Or maybe he will have to grant another "amnesty" to get his hit rates up. Banny arrogants last act will be to ban himself.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,00:11    tsig: "Banny arrogants last act will be to ban himself." Then he'll sock up and come back as as BarryG.  Or maybe Virgin Caine.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,01:08    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 03 2016,17:52) Barfy Arrogant is in the process of writing several reviews of Denton's new rehash of his old book ($7:15 from Amazon). The first one is here. Barry spewage Barry:     Quote That record does not show, as Darwin suggested, a finely graduated organic chain between major Types.  Instead, it shows abrupt appearance of various Types followed by stasis.  Again, using the pentadactyl limb as an example, Denton has no doubt that the limb evolved from the fins of fish.  Yet the fossil record simply does not support the view that the evolution of the limb from the fin occurred gradually over eons of time.  The fossil record is instead conspicuous for the absence of transitional forms from fish fin to pentadactyl limb.   Does Barry live in a universe where Tiktaalik fossils don't exist?  What the hell does he think all the fuss was about when they were discovered?   Barry, we don't ask you to become an expert archaeologist just to comment on a book, but could you at least be dimly aware of the science involved?

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,02:26    Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 06 2016,09:08) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 03 2016,17:52) Barfy Arrogant is in the process of writing several reviews of Denton's new rehash of his old book ($7:15 from Amazon). The first one is here. Barry spewage Barry:       Quote That record does not show, as Darwin suggested, a finely graduated organic chain between major Types.  Instead, it shows abrupt appearance of various Types followed by stasis.  Again, using the pentadactyl limb as an example, Denton has no doubt that the limb evolved from the fins of fish.  Yet the fossil record simply does not support the view that the evolution of the limb from the fin occurred gradually over eons of time.  The fossil record is instead conspicuous for the absence of transitional forms from fish fin to pentadactyl limb.   Does Barry live in a universe where Tiktaalik fossils don't exist?  What the hell does he think all the fuss was about when they were discovered?   Barry, we don't ask you to become an expert archaeologist just to comment on a book, but could you at least be dimly aware of the science involved? Barry Asstalker dimly aware of science? No, he's a loophole in search of gap. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,03:20    I think that should have been expert paleontologist. Blush.

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,06:43    Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 06 2016,03:20) I think that should have been expert paleontologist. Blush. Arkeology / Paley-ontology ... For Arrington, what's the difference?

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,09:00    Quote (N.Wells @ Feb. 06 2016,14:43) Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 06 2016,03:20) I think that should have been expert paleontologist. Blush. Arkeology / Paley-ontology ... For Arrington, what's the difference? For Bazza as an objectivist (or is that objectionable?) bibliophile Paley-ontology sounds to him the same as a Palynologist. Thus for a given set of laws there is a corresponding set of pecuniary opportunities available by deception. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,09:48    Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 06 2016,01:08) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 03 2016,17:52) Barfy Arrogant is in the process of writing several reviews of Denton's new rehash of his old book ($7:15 from Amazon). The first one is here. Barry spewage Barry:       Quote That record does not show, as Darwin suggested, a finely graduated organic chain between major Types.  Instead, it shows abrupt appearance of various Types followed by stasis.  Again, using the pentadactyl limb as an example, Denton has no doubt that the limb evolved from the fins of fish.  Yet the fossil record simply does not support the view that the evolution of the limb from the fin occurred gradually over eons of time.  The fossil record is instead conspicuous for the absence of transitional forms from fish fin to pentadactyl limb.   Does Barry live in a universe where Tiktaalik fossils don't exist?  What the hell does he think all the fuss was about when they were discovered?   Barry, we don't ask you to become an expert archaeologist just to comment on a book, but could you at least be dimly aware of the science involved? I think you are wrong here. Barry is absolutely very, very, very dimly aware of the science he talks about.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,10:09    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 06 2016,17:48) Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 06 2016,01:08) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 03 2016,17:52) Barfy Arrogant is in the process of writing several reviews of Denton's new rehash of his old book ($7:15 from Amazon). The first one is here. Barry spewage Barry:       Quote That record does not show, as Darwin suggested, a finely graduated organic chain between major Types.  Instead, it shows abrupt appearance of various Types followed by stasis.  Again, using the pentadactyl limb as an example, Denton has no doubt that the limb evolved from the fins of fish.  Yet the fossil record simply does not support the view that the evolution of the limb from the fin occurred gradually over eons of time.  The fossil record is instead conspicuous for the absence of transitional forms from fish fin to pentadactyl limb.   Does Barry live in a universe where Tiktaalik fossils don't exist?  What the hell does he think all the fuss was about when they were discovered?   Barry, we don't ask you to become an expert archaeologist just to comment on a book, but could you at least be dimly aware of the science involved? I think you are wrong here. Barry is absolutely very, very, very dimly aware of the science he talks about. Dim and short sighted.Barry is a mole reviewing a mole hill. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,13:34    Quote 14 Barry Arrington February 6, 2016 at 1:29 pm Zachriel: “Actually, Darwin provided several testable reasons why the fossil record would be imperfect” For the uninitiated, I will translate from Zachriel-speak into English: “Actually, Darwin engaged in a prolonged effort in special pleading to try to save his theory from the fossil record, which he knew beyond the slightest doubt not only did not support, but affirmatively refuted, his theory.” Barry does really great in arguments when he's allowed to write the other side too. He's At Least as smart as Jack Chick. Barry Is A Idiot

REC Posts: 638 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,15:07    Barry and Gpuccio are doing their uninformed best, crowing about gaps in fossil record and poorly done blast searches, respectively. Rob Sheldon is perhaps even further off, especially for someone who acts like an expert in physics: "superfluidity was observed and explained in the 20th century as a quantum property of helium-3. What is weird about this paper, is that quantum phenomena aren’t supposed to be observed over distances of millimeters, and with galaxies she’s talking distances of light-years" News undoes this claim by linking to a youtube video of superfluid helium acting on the macro scale, climbing tube walls and making fountains. It is very cool (pun intended). Superfluidity and superconductivity are THE textbook examples of macroscopic quantum phenomena (and the same equations are used to describe the two). If he thinks they only work on the atomic scale, some Japanese train engineers need to chat with him.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2016,19:14    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 06 2016,13:34) Barry does really great in arguments when he's allowed to write the other side too. He's At Least as smart as Jack Chick. Barry Is A Idiot Both belong to the Jack Webb school of debate.  On Dragnet, Joe Friday never lost an argument with a hippy so long as Webb was writing the lines for both of them.

JAM Posts: 517 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2016,02:08    Quote (REC @ Feb. 06 2016,14:07) Barry and Gpuccio are doing their uninformed best, crowing about gaps in fossil record and poorly done blast searches, respectively. gpuccio is pretending that putting modern organisms on the x-axis and connecting the dots entitles him to treat the x-axis as time. Michael Denton, anyone?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2016,13:28    Quote 168 Zachriel February 7, 2016 at 1:18 pm jerry: The forces that produced this phrase in an example of how an intelligent cause works. The pressing of the keyboard symbols is an intelligent process. So you’re saying the designer of life typed it out on a keyboard. How was the output of the keyboard converted into a biological form? Quote 169 Alicia Cartelli February 7, 2016 at 1:26 pm “intelligent beings can certainly do non intelligent things” …like look for the evolution of a protein everywhere except where the protein is most likely to have actually evolved? Yeah, you’d never be able to publish in a real scientific journal, but maybe BioComplexity will take you! linky

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2016,13:32    Quote 158 RexTugwell February 7, 2016 at 10:27 am Alicia, your use of cutesy names like pucci and mungy betrays an impotent fury that’s just sad to watch. Whatever the reason for your bitterness, you should grow up. Quote 159 Alicia Cartelli February 7, 2016 at 10:34 am Oh Rexy, UD is just a playground for idiots and I treat it as such. Get over yourself linky

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2016,13:49    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 07 2016,13:32) Quote 158 RexTugwell February 7, 2016 at 10:27 am Alicia, your use of cutesy names like pucci and mungy betrays an impotent fury that’s just sad to watch. Whatever the reason for your bitterness, you should grow up. Quote 159 Alicia Cartelli February 7, 2016 at 10:34 am Oh Rexy, UD is just a playground for idiots and I treat it as such. Get over yourself linky Considering what he's called Bill and me on my blog... kettle, though art black. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2016,19:02    Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 07 2016,21:49) Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 07 2016,13:32) Quote 158 RexTugwell February 7, 2016 at 10:27 am Alicia, your use of cutesy names like pucci and mungy betrays an impotent fury that’s just sad to watch. Whatever the reason for your bitterness, you should grow up.   Quote 159 Alicia Cartelli February 7, 2016 at 10:34 am Oh Rexy, UD is just a playground for idiots and I treat it as such. Get over yourself linky Considering what he's called Bill and me on my blog... kettle, though art black. Well Rex should count his lucky stars he doesn't have an unfortunate  name like Wayne Kerr. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2016,19:50    Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 07 2016,13:49)     Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 07 2016,13:32)     Quote 158 RexTugwell February 7, 2016 at 10:27 am Alicia, your use of cutesy names like pucci and mungy betrays an impotent fury that’s just sad to watch. Whatever the reason for your bitterness, you should grow up.       Quote 159 Alicia Cartelli February 7, 2016 at 10:34 am Oh Rexy, UD is just a playground for idiots and I treat it as such. Get over yourself linky Considering what he's called Bill and me on my blog... kettle, though art black. I knew my job would be easy. All of the following comments by Rexy were all made to merely one article at Ogre's place. (linky) Let the hypocrisy shine ! Oops, Smiley, this one ain't for you. It's for some fella named "hole truth." Physician Tugsy, Heal Thyself !   (imgur album) -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2016,20:10    ... and it should be noted that in that series of comments, not once did Ogre or anyone else (not even the whole truth!) called RexTugwell Rexy or Tugsy or anything else. (Also, still really want one of those edit button thingys like all the cool kids have.) -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

DiEb Posts: 312 Joined: May 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2016,03:52    Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 06 2016,16:09)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 06 2016,17:48)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 06 2016,01:08)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 03 2016,17:52) Barfy Arrogant is in the process of writing several reviews of Denton's new rehash of his old book ($7:15 from Amazon). The first one is here. Barry spewage Barry:           Quote That record does not show, as Darwin suggested, a finely graduated organic chain between major Types.  Instead, it shows abrupt appearance of various Types followed by stasis.  Again, using the pentadactyl limb as an example, Denton has no doubt that the limb evolved from the fins of fish.  Yet the fossil record simply does not support the view that the evolution of the limb from the fin occurred gradually over eons of time.  The fossil record is instead conspicuous for the absence of transitional forms from fish fin to pentadactyl limb.   Does Barry live in a universe where Tiktaalik fossils don't exist?  What the hell does he think all the fuss was about when they were discovered?   Barry, we don't ask you to become an expert archaeologist just to comment on a book, but could you at least be dimly aware of the science involved? I think you are wrong here. Barry is absolutely very, very, very dimly aware of the science he talks about. Dim and short sighted.Barry is a mole reviewing a mole hill. It's this time of the year: the quaterly silly season is overdue... Over there at TSZ are some more figures... Edited by DiEb on Feb. 08 2016,09:54

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2016,12:35    Quote (Lethean @ Feb. 07 2016,18:10) ... and it should be noted that in that series of comments, not once did Ogre or anyone else (not even the whole truth! called RexTugwell Rexy or Tugsy or anything else. (Also, still really want one of those edit button thingys like all the cool kids have.) Dang, that must have been an off day for me. P.S. For what it's worth, which probably isn't much, I feel that Lethean should get an edit button. It seems odd to me that edit buttons aren't given to everyone. If it's abused, it can be withdrawn. Can a time limit be put on editing a comment? Say, 30 minutes? ETA: checked enable emoticons. Edited by The whole truth on Feb. 08 2016,10:37 -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2016,16:02    Quote (The whole truth @ Feb. 08 2016,10:35) P.S. For what it's worth, which probably isn't much, I feel that Lethean should get an edit button. It seems odd to me that edit buttons aren't given to everyone. If it's abused, it can be withdrawn. The standing rule is that it takes a fixed number of comments before triggering some of the board's options. The "edit" function is one. "Smilies" are another. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2016,16:04    Quote (Lethean @ Feb. 07 2016,18:10) ... and it should be noted that in that series of comments, not once did Ogre or anyone else (not even the whole truth!) called RexTugwell Rexy or Tugsy or anything else. (Also, still really want one of those edit button thingys like all the cool kids have.) As I recall, the edit function becomes available after 75 posts. I could be off a bit since it was a long time ago. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2016,16:51    My recollection is I had to ask. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2016,16:57    I think it is safe to say that I took, um, liberties with Tugwell's name but nothing really insulting.  I mean, I never called him Mrs. Klinghoffer. Rexy Wexy Tugs Well Tug Swell Tuggy Tuggy Wuggy Rex von Wankmeister Sir Wanksalot Possibly others.  I thought he enjoyed the attention!

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2016,20:06    Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 09 2016,00:57) I think it is safe to say that I took, um, liberties with Tugwell's name but nothing really insulting.  I mean, I never called him Mrs. Klinghoffer. Rexy Wexy Tugs Well Tug Swell Tuggy Tuggy Wuggy Rex von Wankmeister Sir Wanksalot Possibly others.  I thought he enjoyed the attention! I wasn't going to start diddling with Rex's name, it would be too low a blow. But since someone else did,I can't resist! Rex means King in latin so ... Rex (King of the tuggers) Tugsbest. Wrecks Tugger Tugger Bugger Rex Smugwell Ex Rugbuggerer Tex Rub well Tex Rug botherer Mex Tex ex swell Rex Bugswill Reg Tuxstain(er) Whilst I haven't reached the heights of Doc Bill,  having an edit button means I could. Hehehe. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2016,09:27    Quote Larry Moran needs to do some more reading February 9, 2016 Posted by vjtorley under Intelligent Design 9 Comments I had intended to write a post on whales as products of Intelligent Design. But the whales will have to wait. In the space of just three hours, Professor Larry Moran has put up two remarkably silly posts. And in both cases, Professor Moran could have spared himself the embarrassment if he had done just […] linky

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