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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2009,01:35   

Urggh... I made the mistake of reading some of Casey's text concerning fossils. Casey tried to quotemine Niles Eldredge so as to say that Prothero's book wasn't complete, therefore Prothero's examples must not be trustworthy. Bleccchhh.

Here's something else Niles Eldredge said of Prothero's text, stuff Casey didn't bother to pass along:

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In the same way that visitors to the American Museum’s Dar-
win exhibition (now traveling the world in several iterations) have
tended to resonate deeply with the comparative osteology of ver-
tebrates (“I GET it!,” more than one visitor has announced when
confronted with a series of vertebrate arm skeletons), Prothero’s
clear, compelling and well-illustrated presentation of The Fish
With Legs (the Upper Devonian Tiktaalik) comes replete with a
reconstruction and a cladogram showing where it fits in phylo-
genetically. Other highlights include his discussion of that still-
and-increasingly-marvelous succession of “mammal-like” rep-
tiles from the Permo-Triassic (“Karroo”) of South Africa; early
whales, not only with legs, but also with tell-tale artiodactyl
“double-pulley” astragali pointing to their terrestrial origins; and
insectivorous bats without echolocation—a discovery so new that
that it did not even make it into Prothero’s text.

And of course, Prothero goes to town with that bane of
every creationist’s existence (because, of course, all they re-
ally care about is where we humans came from)—the spectac-
ularly rich, dense, and diverse stratigraphic record of hominids
over the past 4 million years. The hominid fossil record is a
tremendous boon in the unending battle against the anti-evolution
forces.

Simpson would, I think, have been gratified: his “quantum
evolution” explained why it would be unlikely to find such clear-
cut intermediates (living in transitional environments for short
times in highly localized places)—and not that such intermedi-
ates never existed. Finding them is the icing on the cake—not a
refutation of Quantum Evolution.



Do you suppose that was coincidence?

I don't think so.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 27 2009,11:17   

It appears that Casey the DI's attack gerbil is excreting a new tactic, at least I haven't noticed it until his recent scat.

Example:  the Tree of Life is fixed!  Fixed, I say!  Any change to it is admission of a Darwinian retraction.

See what he's doing?  If a report comes out describing how Luskin is related to an onion, then later, with new data, a report comes out describing Luskin distantly related to an onion but closely related to a turnip,

that's a "retraction."  An admission that the Darwinists Got It Wrong.

It's a bird!  It's a plane!  No, it's Superman!

EN&V headline:  Two Out of Three Darwinists Get It Wrong

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2009,10:45   

Quote (XRumerTest @ Mar. 09 2009,10:44)
Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 13 2006,13:06)
Hello. And Bye.

Hello. And Bye.

WTF?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 09 2009,11:39   

It's a spam program, one that can answer CAPTCHAs. Further references or quotations will be deleted.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2009,12:36   

Proof that evolution theory has no applications in medicine:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090305150917.htm

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2009,00:52   

From here:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009....bo.html

to here:

http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2009/02/opponents-not-enemies/

get this:

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Casey Luskin says:
February 26, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Hi Nick,

It’s interesting that you defend Pennock. He cited Antievolution.org as a repository of incivility of ID proponents. I found that most interesting, because that website actually shows precisely the opposite trend: in one single thread on Antievolution.org I personally have been called unprintable names including, “Bizarre ignoramus,” “retarded,” “bigger tard,” “suck-up,” “brown-noser,” “Casey Luskin asphixiate from his head up his glutious maximus first,” “microcephaloc,” “PHALLO-cephalic,” “an insult to dickheads everywhere,” “a baby–well, okay, maybe a toddler,” “Pathetic Loser,” “attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy,” “Discovery Institute’s Chief Lap Poodle,” “Discovery Institute’s Chief Lap Peccary,” “an orc,” “Annoying,” “a miserable loser with no life that just plays on the internet all day,” “an a**,” “a lying sack of sh***,” “a pussy,” “a total loser,” “f***ing crazy,” “attack gerbil Luskin,” “douche bag,” “a**hole,” “the Biggest Douche that anyone that has every met him has ever met,” “so totally gay,” “dorky,” “He also has an unhealthy focus on ‘poster children’,” “an idiot,” “dishonest,” “ignorant cheap poxied floozie,” “fanatic and lunatic,” “A proven liar,” and “incompetent.”

Sadly, that’s just the beginning. That’s the only thread I’ve tried to catalogue, but that’s the point: it’s just one thread on one of many similar anti-ID websites.

I made only one post to this forum in response, in which I stated:

“I could say much in defense of myself here, but this is neither the time nor the appropriate venue to do so. In this regard, I have one, and only one post to make, and one, and only one thing to say: I forgive you all for how you have treated me here, and most of all I forgive Wesley Elsberry…”



He keeps a list, bless! Casey - less faux martyr, more science, 'kay?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2009,01:24   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 22 2009,08:52)
From here:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009....bo.html

to here:

http://www.thinkingchristian.net/2009/02/opponents-not-enemies/

get this:

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Casey Luskin says:
February 26, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Hi Nick,

It’s interesting that you defend Pennock. He cited Antievolution.org as a repository of incivility of ID proponents. I found that most interesting, because that website actually shows precisely the opposite trend: in one single thread on Antievolution.org I personally have been called unprintable names including, “Bizarre ignoramus,” “retarded,” “bigger tard,” “suck-up,” “brown-noser,” “Casey Luskin asphixiate from his head up his glutious maximus first,” “microcephaloc,” “PHALLO-cephalic,” “an insult to dickheads everywhere,” “a baby–well, okay, maybe a toddler,” “Pathetic Loser,” “attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy,” “Discovery Institute’s Chief Lap Poodle,” “Discovery Institute’s Chief Lap Peccary,” “an orc,” “Annoying,” “a miserable loser with no life that just plays on the internet all day,” “an a**,” “a lying sack of sh***,” “a pussy,” “a total loser,” “f***ing crazy,” “attack gerbil Luskin,” “douche bag,” “a**hole,” “the Biggest Douche that anyone that has every met him has ever met,” “so totally gay,” “dorky,” “He also has an unhealthy focus on ‘poster children’,” “an idiot,” “dishonest,” “ignorant cheap poxied floozie,” “fanatic and lunatic,” “A proven liar,” and “incompetent.”

Sadly, that’s just the beginning. That’s the only thread I’ve tried to catalogue, but that’s the point: it’s just one thread on one of many similar anti-ID websites.

I made only one post to this forum in response, in which I stated:

“I could say much in defense of myself here, but this is neither the time nor the appropriate venue to do so. In this regard, I have one, and only one post to make, and one, and only one thing to say: I forgive you all for how you have treated me here, and most of all I forgive Wesley Elsberry…”



He keeps a list, bless! Casey - less faux martyr, more science, 'kay?

Hahahahahahahaha

Does my ego look big in this sack cloth

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2009,02:33   

Perhaps Casey and Clive Hayden should get together for a bit of mutual martyrbation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2009,04:29   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 22 2009,00:52)
He keeps a list, bless! Casey - less faux martyr, more science, 'kay?

Yeah, Luskin (MS, JD, Esq) used the same list at his Academic Freedom Day talk at OU last month.  He affected the nice little Christian boy pose right before launching into a nasty bit of character assassination on ERV.  Apparently, at the DI, being more Christ-like means pretending you are up there on a cross muttering "Science, Science, why has Thou forsaken me?"

Although, you do have to admire someone who can actually print the "unprintable."  That surely must take a towering intellect.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2009,09:50   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 22 2009,04:29)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 22 2009,00:52)
He keeps a list, bless! Casey - less faux martyr, more science, 'kay?

Yeah, Luskin (MS, JD, Esq) used the same list at his Academic Freedom Day talk at OU last month.  He affected the nice little Christian boy pose right before launching into a nasty bit of character assassination on ERV.  Apparently, at the DI, being more Christ-like means pretending you are up there on a cross muttering "Science, Science, why has Thou forsaken me?"

Although, you do have to admire someone who can actually print the "unprintable."  That surely must take a towering intellect.

I imagine that Casey hires an agnostic, non-English speaker to type that out safely for him.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2009,10:44   

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“A proven liar,” and “incompetent.”


I don't know about the rest of the list but these two are factually correct...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2009,12:48   

What can we do about the quote-mining? (By "we" I mean everybody, not just us.) It just sickens me. I would never quote-mine Dembski or Luskin or Behe. Plagiarism has gave consequences for journalists (or should), but these guys just keep getting away with misrepresenting the work of others! Ben Stein's stupid film with that chopped-up quote from Darwin and that chopped-up interview of Dawkins and that "speech" before movie extras portraying "Pepperdine University students" is still going around! Quote-mining should be forbidden in publishing and on the internet, but I have no idea how that could be enforced.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 22 2009,22:16   

You know, I've been out there on the Intertubes for quite a few years and the worst, or best, I've ever been called is a "hot hunk of man-scientist stud" by Louis.

Srsly.

OK, maybe Larry Moran called me "tiresome" but consider the source.

So, considering my studly tiresomeness, and my proclivity to make asinine comments, and considering your own collective experiences at being maligned by Moran or others less scholarly, do you think it ever occurs to Casey Luskin, Attack Gerbil for the Liars Institute of America who only employ liars and attack gerbils, that it might be something HE DOES to engender such love?

Possibly?  Maybe?

Gerbil food for thought, at least!

  
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2009,18:01   

No sooner do I have an unkind thought for the Attack Gerbil than he squeaks!

But not at poor old Doc Bill!  No, Gerb goes after Genie Scott!

Run, Genie, run!

The Gerb threatens, "Eugenie Scott better reign in her staff members ..."

Yeah, Genie, reign in those staff members.

No, hang on a moment, shouldn't the Gerb, aka Attorney for Grammar, have said reign OVER those staff members?

Or maybe Mr. Nits for Wits meant RAIN ON those staff member's (parade), one assumes.

Or did our Minister of Gerbil Propaganda mean REIN in those staff members?

We may never know.  We may never, no.  We may nevah, Noah!

how long is a reign in Spain? or

how long is a rein in Spain? or

how long is a rain in Spain?

Oh, and Casey, TITS or GTFO.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2009,18:12   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 23 2009,19:01)
No sooner do I have an unkind thought for the Attack Gerbil than he squeaks!

But not at poor old Doc Bill!  No, Gerb goes after Genie Scott!

Run, Genie, run!

The Gerb threatens, "Eugenie Scott better reign in her staff members ..."

Yeah, Genie, reign in those staff members.

No, hang on a moment, shouldn't the Gerb, aka Attorney for Grammar, have said reign OVER those staff members?

Or maybe Mr. Nits for Wits meant RAIN ON those staff member's (parade), one assumes.

Or did our Minister of Gerbil Propaganda mean REIN in those staff members?

We may never know.  We may never, no.  We may nevah, Noah!

how long is a reign in Spain? or

how long is a rein in Spain? or

how long is a rain in Spain?

Oh, and Casey, TITS or GTFO.

And these are their 'intellectuals'?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2009,20:20   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 23 2009,18:01)
No sooner do I have an unkind thought for the Attack Gerbil than he squeaks!

But not at poor old Doc Bill!  No, Gerb goes after Genie Scott!

Run, Genie, run!

The Gerb threatens, "Eugenie Scott better reign in her staff members ..."

Yeah, Genie, reign in those staff members.

No, hang on a moment, shouldn't the Gerb, aka Attorney for Grammar, have said reign OVER those staff members?

Or maybe Mr. Nits for Wits meant RAIN ON those staff member's (parade), one assumes.

Or did our Minister of Gerbil Propaganda mean REIN in those staff members?

We may never know.  We may never, no.  We may nevah, Noah!

how long is a reign in Spain? or

how long is a rein in Spain? or

how long is a rain in Spain?

Oh, and Casey, TITS or GTFO.

You left off the best part of Luskin's statement:

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Eugenie Scott better reign in her staff members or the NCSE will not only lose its religion-friendly image—it may land some school districts or state boards of education in court if their advice is followed.


I guess I should have warned you to turn down your irony meters before reading that, eh. Actually, there is another goody in there (umm, those of you who still have irony meters left should turn them down):

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Now I don’t think that science should adopt supernatural explanations...


:O


Edit: To add a Link

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2009,21:11   

Hey, Casey Luskin, I'm calling you out, you pathetic Gerbil.

You are illiterate.

Get a dictionary, dude, or take a class at the local junior college up there in dumb bunny Washington.

Seriously, you are an embarrassment to propagandists everywhere.

Proofread much, Casey you bucktoothed, caterpillar eyebrowed moron?  Hey, Casey, I didn't realize that Cheerios granted JD degrees.  Can I haz one?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2009,21:39   

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And these are their 'intellectuals'?


They can has grammar school?

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,07:10   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 23 2009,04:16)
You know, I've been out there on the Intertubes for quite a few years and the worst, or best, I've ever been called is a "hot hunk of man-scientist stud" by Louis.

Srsly.

[SNIP]

I deny this utterly. Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, if there is conclusive proof!

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,13:49   

Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 23 2009,21:39)
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And these are their 'intellectuals'?


They can has grammar school?

Henry

They certainly don't seem to have had a comprehensive education.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,16:42   

Quote (afarensis @ Mar. 23 2009,20:20)
   
Quote

Eugenie Scott better reign in her staff members or the NCSE will not only lose its religion-friendly image—it may land some school districts or state boards of education in court if their advice is followed.


I guess I should have warned you to turn down your irony meters before reading that, eh. Actually, there is another goody in there (umm, those of you who still have irony meters left should turn them down):

       
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Now I don’t think that science should adopt supernatural explanations...


:O


Edit: To add a Link

Now that's some sweet and serious tard. It took me fifteen minutes to gather my composure. I think ID's finnish fans deserve to suffer-, I mean, hear of this as well.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,17:16   

He has now corrected the reign/rain/rein error.  Indeed it never existed and was just another ploy by immoral Darwinists to make him look illiterate

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,17:32   

Quote (Quidam @ Mar. 24 2009,17:16)
He has now corrected the reign/rain/rein error.  Indeed it never existed and was just another ploy by immoral Darwinists to make him look illiterate

Agreed -

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Posted by Casey Luskin on March 23, 2009 7:48 AM


Komputer agrees.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,17:44   

AFAIK, I'm the only one on the Entire Intertubes who pointed out the error which means Casey reads this thread and my more flattering assassinations of his caricature.

What, no H/T from the DI?

I'm insulted!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,19:33   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 24 2009,17:44)
AFAIK, I'm the only one on the Entire Intertubes who pointed out the error which means Casey reads this thread and my more flattering assassinations of his caricature.

What, no H/T from the DI?

I'm insulted!

For what it's worth, you did get a hat tip from me :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,21:02   

Thanks, Bones, my life is complete!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 01 2009,09:09   

Today, Google released Caddie, "he world's first Cognitive Autoheuristic Distributed-Intelligence Entity."

Caddie produced all by itself this remarkable Web Site

and I can only describe it as the first concrete example of Intelligent Design.

Why I'm mentioning it on this thread is that if Casey Luskin designed a web site, this would be it!  You know, maybe we've got ID all wrong after all!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2009,17:58   

YOU DONT KNOW ME.  I AM ON AN AIRPLANE.  TITS.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2009,18:03   

Quote (ERV @ April 17 2009,17:58)
YOU DONT KNOW ME.  I AM ON AN AIRPLANE.  TITS.

Rhiggs said Casey didn't understand, but Casey has a master's degree... in earth science!

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2009,20:44   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 17 2009,18:03)
Quote (ERV @ April 17 2009,17:58)
YOU DONT KNOW ME.  I AM ON AN AIRPLANE.  TITS.

Rhiggs said Casey didn't understand, but Casey has a master's degree... in earth science!

And the world's longest plane flight.





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