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Quote (GaryGaulin @ Jan. 30 2016,17:32) | Quote (The whole truth @ Jan. 29 2016,10:03) | gary, how are extirpations and extinctions explained by your so-called 'ID theory'?
Are you claiming that the behaviors (whatever they may be) of female alligators are "certain features of the universe" that were/are designed-created by your chosen, so-called god, or that female alligators design-create "certain features of the universe" (their behaviors)?
How about male alligators?
You said: "The most likely candidate for causal forces that have the capacity to arrange matter for a purpose is the consciousness causing “behavior of matter”."
As N. Wells pointed out, you don't explain that. What "consciousness" are you talking about and what causes the "consciousness"? |
The scientific fields that study extinctions are in in the area of paleontology and geology, where extinction events are used to pinpoint a specific geological time where all around the planet new species suddenly appear in the strata above that geological layer.
I am only obliged to explain how to from the behavior of matter on up model the "intelligent cause" that would likewise experience crashes followed by relatively fast recovery (by new biological designs) after an equal magnitude environmental catastrophe happening in the model's virtual world.
The way the model has to go from one emergent intelligence level to the next likewise makes consciousness emergent from the "behavior of matter". That alone does not explain how consciousness works, but it's a valuable clue as to where to start in search for more answers.
For modeling purposes it is not necessary for intelligence to be consciously aware of its internal signals such as those for shock and pain. The virtual critters will still respond as though they were conscious.
And in regards to other things you might like the rant I just posted at UD that someone named Donald took note of: http://www.uncommondescent.com/evoluti....-596364
I'm working on a response back, |
N. Wells is right, gary, I'm asking about any and all extinctions, and extirpations (local extinctions). I also didn't ask about only long past extinctions, so your remarks about paleontology and geology are irrelevant to what I asked you, and there are plenty of scientists studying long past, recent, and potential extinctions (whether local or total) who are not paleontologists or geologists. In many cases a variety of scientists cooperate in the study of extinctions or potential extinctions.
Here, let me make my questions about extirpations/extinctions more thorough:
How does your so-called 'ID theory' explain any and all local and total extinctions, in the past, present, and future? According to your so-called 'ID theory', how and why do any and all extinctions occur? According to your so-called 'ID theory', how and why are extinctions not prevented by the 'intelligence' within the biological entities that go extinct? According to your so-called 'ID theory', why does 'the designer' cause or allow extinctions?
Your responses to my other questions are also inadequate, incoherent, irrelevant, or non-existent.
I'll pass on going to UD. Post your rant and responses to it here if you want me to read it.
ETA another question.
ETA: or potential extinctions
Edited by The whole truth on Jan. 31 2016,02:27
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