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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,11:53    well, further abandoning it.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,13:11    Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,11:34) peteFun nails Bully:     Quote Look – it’s going to be hard to admit when you’re wrong when you accuse someone of “insane denialism”. I know you can’t possibly backtrack now. It would indicate that what you call “insane denialism” is actually a reasonable alternative interpretation you failed to foresee, so you really have no “out”. But whatever gets page views, I guess. 126 peteFun November 19, 2015 at 9:44 pm That's Bully: Out on a limb with no way to crawl back.  Don't worry though.  In Barryland, insults constitute an effective reply to any evidence or argument. It's not just that Arrington "failed to foresee" Darwin's Fourth Edition. He failed to read what Darwin said before pronouncing on what Darwin said. So Barry's position now is: What Darwin said <> What Darwin said That sounds familiar. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,14:52    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 20 2015,11:46) dembski more or less abandoning ID. I especially like his first statement: Quote n the last few years, my focus has switched from ID to education... I always thought that education was one of ID's goals? Or was that only forced education?

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,14:53    Quote (midwifetoad @ Nov. 20 2015,13:11) Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,11:34) peteFun nails Bully:       Quote Look – it’s going to be hard to admit when you’re wrong when you accuse someone of “insane denialism”. I know you can’t possibly backtrack now. It would indicate that what you call “insane denialism” is actually a reasonable alternative interpretation you failed to foresee, so you really have no “out”. But whatever gets page views, I guess. 126 peteFun November 19, 2015 at 9:44 pm That's Bully: Out on a limb with no way to crawl back.  Don't worry though.  In Barryland, insults constitute an effective reply to any evidence or argument. It's not just that Arrington "failed to foresee" Darwin's Fourth Edition. He failed to read what Darwin said before pronouncing on what Darwin said. So Barry's position now is: What Darwin said <> What Darwin said That sounds familiar. I predict (or is it postdict?) the bannination of PeteFun. He will be missed.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,16:14    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 20 2015,11:46) dembski more or less abandoning ID. Well, it's been 10 years and evolution is dead, ID has won, etc.  Nothing left to do really. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,16:34    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 20 2015,11:46) dembski more or less abandoning ID. Go to the "About" page and it looks like he's left the Discovery Institute too:   Quote Through 2014, Dembski was a full-time research fellow with Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Cultureas well as Senior Research Scientist with the Evolutionary Informatics Lab I think he's going to miss that stipend.  I wonder if he left voluntarily or if he was "eased out the door".  If he publishes the home phone numbers and email addresses of the Board of Directors of the Discovery Institute we'll know it was the latter.  Personally, I think that even the intellectual powerhouses that helm the Discovery Institute have figured out that if you get booted out of Baylor University and the Southern Evangelical Seminary you are not too shiny a symbol of ID'S intellectual dominance of Science and Culture. One good thing though, "SES awarded him an honorary doctorate in 2011", so he's Dr. Dr. Dr. Dembski now.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,16:55    In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,17:06    Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,14:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. Will design for food.  Farty noises extra. Edited by stevestory on Nov. 21 2015,10:09 -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,17:07    Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,16:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. So the mighty William Dembski has been reduced to Gary Gaulin. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,18:29    Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 20 2015,17:07) Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,16:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. So the mighty William Dembski has been reduced to Gary Gaulin. Looks like no one's ever going to get that bottle of scotch from Dr Dr Dr either.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,19:37    Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 20 2015,16:07) Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,16:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. So the mighty William Dembski has been reduced to Gary Gaulin. Maybe he should hire Gary?

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,20:05    Wait, wasn't "designinference.com" all simply Microsoft Word exported as HTML? Not exactly website design IMO. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,20:10    Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 20 2015,15:06) Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,14:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. Will design for food.  Farty noises extra. POTW -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,21:53    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 20 2015,20:05) Wait, wasn't "designinference.com" all simply Microsoft Word exported as HTML? Not exactly website design IMO. Which was fitting since Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel exported in the idiom of information theory. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2015,23:36    Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,16:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. He must know something about information theory though, how could he otherwise have installed the educational Mount Rushmore background picture on his pages? -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,08:20    What a deluded, god slobbering loon: https://billdembski.com/wp-cont....ust.pdf I would love to debate him. Hey dembski, since you likely read this site I have a challenge for you. Why don't you open comments on your blog, and how about a thread where just you and I can debate your bullshit about atheists and your imaginary 'God' (yahoo-yeshoo-holy-spook)? Surely a courageous expert such as you (LOL) can easily crush me in a debate and show that I'm not really an atheist, eh? -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,08:59    Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 21 2015,00:34) Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 20 2015,11:46) dembski more or less abandoning ID. Go to the "About" page and it looks like he's left the Discovery Institute too:     Quote Through 2014, Dembski was a full-time research fellow with Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Cultureas well as Senior Research Scientist with the Evolutionary Informatics Lab I think he's going to miss that stipend.  I wonder if he left voluntarily or if he was "eased out the door".  If he publishes the home phone numbers and email addresses of the Board of Directors of the Discovery Institute we'll know it was the latter.  Personally, I think that even the intellectual powerhouses that helm the Discovery Institute have figured out that if you get booted out of Baylor University and the Southern Evangelical Seminary you are not too shiny a symbol of ID'S intellectual dominance of Science and Culture. One good thing though, "SES awarded him an honorary doctorate in 2011", so he's Dr. Dr. Dr. Dembski now. With a name like Dembski probably the one of the few times they awarded a Doc to a Yankee. Affirmative action is a bitch. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,09:01    Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 21 2015,01:07) Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,16:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. So the mighty William Dembski has been reduced to Gary Gaulin. Waterloo! -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,09:07    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 20 2015,15:52) Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 20 2015,11:46) dembski more or less abandoning ID. I especially like his first statement: Quote n the last few years, my focus has switched from ID to education... I always thought that education was one of ID's goals? Or was that only forced education? my guess is this translates to "Evil Public Devil Schools are impenetrable to the Truff, now I wanna boost/support/profit from Bible-thumpin homeschoolers/alt schools"

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,09:08    Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 20 2015,18:07) Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,16:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. So the mighty William Dembski has been reduced to Gary Gaulin. I can't tell who's insulted the more.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,09:48    Why Darwinism Is Failing

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,09:49    2nd comment on that thread Quote 2 wd400 November 20, 2015 at 7:15 pm Nah, I spend most of today “mapping genomes” as an evolutionary biologist. It’s only through the methods of evolutionary biology that many of the results you talk about here are even known. As to this Quote Darwin’s faithful are thus reduced to endless terminological squabbles about what “stasis” or “primitive” mean. No evolutionary biologists squabble about the meanings of these words. That you are Barry don’t know their biological meaning is hardly our fault. ouchie

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,09:51    Quote 14 Mapou November 20, 2015 at 10:05 pm It’s funny how Lizzy speaks with such authority, as if her words should be taken at face value and respected because they are coming from a superior being. I got news for you, Ms. dirt worshiper. In the end, you’re nothing but a clueless, math-challenged, dirt worshiper and you belong to a [DELETED] cult of other equally clueless dirt worshipers. 😀 UDEditors: No profanity. Why the fuck not?

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,09:58    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 21 2015,17:08) Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 20 2015,18:07) Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 20 2015,16:55) In the "Design" section, Dembski lists his current employment: "Entrepreneur who builds educational software and websites." Yup, he's going to miss that Discovery Institute stipend. So the mighty William Dembski has been reduced to Gary Gaulin. I can't tell who's insulted the more. POTW!+ -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,11:47    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 21 2015,09:51) Quote 14 Mapou November 20, 2015 at 10:05 pm It’s funny how Lizzy speaks with such authority, as if her words should be taken at face value and respected because they are coming from a superior being. I got news for you, Ms. dirt worshiper. In the end, you’re nothing but a clueless, math-challenged, dirt worshiper and you belong to a [DELETED] cult of other equally clueless dirt worshipers. 😀 UDEditors: No profanity. Why the fuck not? It was just a typo. He meant to say <b>No inanity</b>.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,13:09    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 21 2015,19:47) Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 21 2015,09:51) Quote 14 Mapou November 20, 2015 at 10:05 pm It’s funny how Lizzy speaks with such authority, as if her words should be taken at face value and respected because they are coming from a superior being. I got news for you, Ms. dirt worshiper. In the end, you’re nothing but a clueless, math-challenged, dirt worshiper and you belong to a [DELETED] cult of other equally clueless dirt worshipers. 😀 UDEditors: No profanity. Why the fuck not? It was just a typo. He meant to say <b>No inanity</b>. I'm pretty sure they include that for free it's on record. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Cubist Posts: 558 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,15:00    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Nov. 20 2015,20:05) Wait, wasn't "designinference.com" all simply Microsoft Word exported as HTML? Not exactly website design IMO. Maybe, maybe not. The actual designinference.com website is currently off the net, but its remains are preserved at the Internet Archive, and it looks to me like it's pretty much bog-standard WordPress. Which is also not much of a testimonial to the Great Design Power of the Isaac Newton of Information Theory, of course…

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,17:42    Quote 14 Alicia Cartelli November 21, 2015 at 5:28 pm So barry, do you think the fossil record contains every species to ever live on this planet? “If the record agreed with this theory he would have no reason to call it “extremely imperfect” would he.” …just when I thought you couldn’t get any more ignorant. UD--come see what extremely blinkered people think about Science!

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,17:46    seversky: Quote Show me one evolutionist who claims that Darwin believed the fossil record offers “perfect support” for his theory otherwise this reads as rank Alinskyite strawmandering. That's twice i've seen him call Barry 'Alinskyite'. Barry's going to ban Seversky or stroke out, no idea which first. linky

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2015,18:49    Unless Barry can produce a complete and unbroken family tree I'm going to have to throw out this 'shagging=babies' liberal claptrap our kids are being taught.

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