NoName
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| Quote (GaryGaulin @ Oct. 07 2015,17:32) | | Quote (NoName @ Oct. 07 2015,16:13) | | Quote (GaryGaulin @ Oct. 07 2015,16:53) | | Quote (NoName @ Oct. 07 2015,15:36) | | We are talking about how the structure of benzene was discovered -- through an intelligent act that did not involve any 'muscle control system'. |
Considering how you ignored the fact that the discoverer was an intelligent human that relies on muscle control (including circulatory, respiration, digestive system) for survival: you are in worse shape than I first thought.
According to your logic a person who is no longer breathing, has no pulse, and as they say "shit the bed" is actually in fine health. |
Again with this bullshit.
That the particular individual who had the intuition had muscle control systems in abundance is irrelevant.
No muscle control systems were involved in the insight into the structure of benzene.
If your "theory" needs to account for all existing elements that happen to be present, well, you're missing quite a few. Oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, a host of organic and inorganic compounds, gravity, parents, and countless others.
There's nothing special about 'muscle control systems' compared to all the other extraneous factors we might identify that warrants including them in the 'circuit diagram' for intelligence.
You are simply wrong to specify that any and every act of intelligence as such requires a 'motor control system' as an inherent part of the "circuit".
You also continue to evade and avoid the problem of music -- no muscle control systems are involved in hearing.
Ears are not muscles, there is nothing there to control.
Control over attention to some features of sound over others is not muscle control.
Your "theory" has been refuted by the adversity of facts.
Deal with it. |
You are then saying that they would have had no problem at all making a discovery where completely paralyzed and cannot communicate with anyone, along with full loss of the hippocampus and entorhinal cortex regions of their brain in which virtual motor systems are controlled (and network can also be used to map/draw equations) in which case they would be completely "unconscious" and probably unaware of anything. |
You don't know enough to ask that question.
Witness the face that neither the hippocampus nor the entorhinal cortex regions of the brain are muscle control systems.
Your diagram calls out 'muscle control systems' as inherent to the act of intelligence.
I've shown that you are wrong.
Or are you going to insist that had Kekule not described his results, they would never have been gained?
That's conflating different things even beyond your usual habits!
Communicating an act of intelligence is different from the act of intelligence being communicated.
Regardless of whether the latter is required for others to know about the act being communicated.
I'm saying that your diagram is wrong.
I've shown it with evidence.
You have no evidence, only the incredulity of the uneducated and willfully stupid to bring to the 'discussion'.
Come back and raise the point after you've convinced someone, anyone, that any act of intelligence as such requires the active and actual involvement of muscle control systems.
Until then, you're blowing smoke up your own kilt.
You are wrong, you've been shown to be wrong by brute facts.
Deal with it.
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