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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 28 2015,23:13   

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And by the by. Satan is not that particular alien’s name. Satan really means the accuser or adversary. His real name is Morning Star or, as given in Latin by the Church of Rome, Lucifer. He’s full of hate against both humans and the hosts of Yahweh. Yahweh is the big Kahuna of all the aliens. He claimed to have been the first one and that all the others, including other aliens and humans, came long after. But not before Yahweh of Hosts had a technological singularity of sorts from which the universe was born. That was the Big Daddy of all singularities. LOL.

You see, we Christians, we have stories to tell you about aliens. Besides, they’re right here. And they’ve been here long before we showed up. We are the late comers in this part of the Galaxy. What are they doing here? Glad you ask. They engineered the Solar system, terraformed the earth and seeded it with living organisms in order to conduct a grand experiment, one that is still ongoing. And guess what? We are the subject of the experiment.

Like I said, we got alien stories to tell. Grand stories.


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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,01:49   

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You see, we Christians, we have stories to tell you about aliens. Besides, they’re right here. And they’ve been here long before we showed up. .


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Crazy, and more crazy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,03:07   

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And by the by. Satan is not that particular alien’s name. Satan really means the accuser or adversary. His real name is Morning Star or, as given in Latin by the Church of Rome, Lucifer. He’s full of hate against both humans and the hosts of Yahweh. Yahweh is the big Kahuna of all the aliens. He claimed to have been the first one and that all the others, including other aliens and humans, came long after. But not before Yahweh of Hosts had a technological singularity of sorts from which the universe was born. That was the Big Daddy of all singularities. LOL.

You see, we Christians, we have stories to tell you about aliens. Besides, they’re right here. And they’ve been here long before we showed up. We are the late comers in this part of the Galaxy. What are they doing here? Glad you ask. They engineered the Solar system, terraformed the earth and seeded it with living organisms in order to conduct a grand experiment, one that is still ongoing. And guess what? We are the subject of the experiment.

Like I said, we got alien stories to tell. Grand stories.


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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,09:16   

Unphased by Mapou's lunacy KF enters the thread to warn us of the very real existence of demons.

Even William 'last beacon of rationality' J Murray believes his wife is being abducted by aliens.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,09:43   

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He thinks he’s refuted the Big Bang, when in fact he has simply revealed his ignorance of freshman physics. And yet he is so confident, he gives speeches about this stuff! That’s not what I look for in a president.

Carson’s understanding of the physics of the universe is no worse than that of famous physicists such as Hawking. Hawking believes in the possibility of time travel, for crying out loud! This is a man who still uses “continuous fields” physics even though any moron walking down the street can figure out that the universe is necessarily discrete.
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,09:45   

Batsh^t77 demonstrates a profound inability to reason  abstractly.....
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Thus since Atheists deny the reality of Good and Evil altogether, and yet the argument from evil requires an objective standard of good that has been departed from in its premises, then the ‘argument from evil’ collapses in on itself....


And Jesus wept.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,10:14   

you might be the only person who actually reads BatShit77.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,11:06   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 29 2015,10:14)
you might be the only person who actually reads BatShit77.

Some people are masochists.

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,11:18   

Well, you know when you've run out of cigarettes and rather than drag your arse to the shop you find yourself fashioning them from the butts in the ashtray....it's kinda like that.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,11:47   

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The vapidity of their lobbying can be gauged by their intended palliative concerning the accident at Fukushima, to the effect that bananas have potassium in them – as if th problem of clean, safe power could be generated by banana-fuelled power plants.


Dafuq????????

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,12:16   

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The vapidity of their lobbying can be gauged by their intended palliative concerning the accident at Fukushima, to the effect that bananas have potassium in them – as if th problem of clean, safe power could be generated by banana-fuelled power plants.


Dafuq????????

Forget cigarette butts that stuff is the pure crack cocaine of ID. One puff and your gone!

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,12:17   

Axel:

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I can understand how Hitler came to the conclusion that the Nordic races could, in worldly terms, be described as a superior race. The Jews are God’s own ‘one off'; I don’t think you can contextualize them in normal human terms.


It goes on.....

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,12:22   

denews:

 
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NewsSeptember 29, 2015 at 8:52 am
bFast, should acceptance or non-acceptance of “evolution” matter more to such a person’s fitness for office than achievements in relation to the public welfare? The original question was, why should that matter.


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But, previously on TARDFEST:

 
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There seems to be a lot of chatter on the news and the Internet about the candidates’ beliefs about origins. While many in the media are using this as a test of scientific savvy (and a way to discredit people they don’t like), I think there are deeper reasons why the question of origins is important to an election.

In a recent article on the Classical Conversations website, I show how the question of origins relates directly to some of the foundational questions of governance, and how different views affect those questions and outcomes.


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KF

 
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In quick response, if a candidate gets his ideas on the nature of humanity — thus, necessarily, morality — from a priori atheistical evolutionary materialism or its fellow travellers, the clear evidence of the past 100 years [not to mention 2350 years — spell that ALCIBIADES (who we should learn a lot more about, by way of a highly relevant caution from history . . .) ], is that that candidate is a potentially serious hazard to the property, liberty, safety and even lives of his potential constituents; not to mention those of people in neighbouring countries.


There's also some tortured babies in there, of course.



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,12:30   

Gordie:

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For instance, I have recently personally witnessed demonisation manifesting in levitation, in a semi-public situation, with many other eyewitnesses.


Yes, and I have personally witnessed demonization by KF.

Should we conclude that KF is demonic, then?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,13:02   

link?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,13:13   

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link?

Link

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Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,13:42   

This by Coyne bothers me (comment 2 by BA, quot[min]ing Coyne, "Dr. No on Evolution"):

 
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[T]ruth be told, evolution hasn’t yielded many practical or commercial benefits. Yes, bacteria evolve drug resistance, and yes, we must take countermeasures, but beyond that there is not much to say. Evolution cannot help us predict what new vaccines to manufacture because microbes evolve unpredictably. But hasn’t evolution helped guide animal and plant breeding? Not very much. Most improvement in crop plants and animals occurred long before we knew anything about evolution, and came about by people following the genetic principle of ‘like begets like’. Even now, as its practitioners admit, the field of quantitative genetics has been of little value in helping improve varieties. Future advances will almost certainly come from transgenics, which is not based on evolution at all.

(Jerry Coyne, “Selling Darwin: Does it matter whether evolution has any commercial applications?,” reviewing The Evolving World: Evolution in Everyday Life by David P. Mindell, in Nature, 442:983-984 (August 31, 2006).)


Of course it is a quotemine, and Coyne went on to mention evolution's explanatory value.  Here is the same, but with more context.  I believe that he has backed away from it some since then, as well.  But even Coyne's mention of the explanatory value of evolution shorts the practical value of having an explanatory model like evolution.  The comparison I'd like to make is with language evolution.

Now clearly our understanding that English evolved from Germanic roots (with a heavy French influx in vocabulary) and, those from Indo-European hasn't led to many directly practical or economic benefits, but understanding English necessarily involves understanding at least its more recent evolution.  Why do we have the plural "mice" for "mouse," and why are wedded couples pronounced "man and wife" (wife used to simply mean "woman")?

Of course one needn't understand language evolution in order to use language.  But how would anyone really come to understand English without recognizing language and how it evolved, or teach it properly without such an understanding?  Likewise, a neurologist needn't really accept evolution (even more so since brain evolution isn't as well understood as evolution of most of the rest of the body), but I'd hate for Carson to try to explain the descent of the testes without using (unintelligent) evolution to do so.  As for a president, I wouldn't think that accepting evolution would be essential, but one hates to see one in scientific denial in partial control of the science budget (imagine O'Leary budgeting science research).  

Dobzhansky was clearly more correct, that nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.  I've seen Massimo-Piglucci argue against that claim (physiology makes no sense without referencing evolution?), as if it were an absolute claim, rather than an aphorism.  Well, his problem.  We know biology via evolution, and it is useful to know biology.  

Why have medical researchers cared about the mouse genome more so than, say, the chicken genome?  Because the extent and ways in which mice have diverged from us matters to medical research that often tests on mice prior to human testing.  It's "just explanation," but that explanation has practical effects in science, in fact.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,14:11   

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KF,
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Just like, the utter lack of evidence of a gorilla sitting across the table from me is evidence of the falsity of such a claim as that one is there.


Sure, I agree that this claim is falsifiable. However, I really doubt that there is any way to falsify the claim I gave in my post #1. Any unfortunate event such as a natural disaster, a mass killing, etc., will likely be interpreted by someone as the act of demons or Satan.

On another note, I’ve heard all sorts of stories, but have seen no convincing evidence. Dr Torley referred to an alleged incidence of levitation which lasted for 30 minutes, yet apparently no one bothered to take any photos or video.

Cameras are ubiquitous these days. If these incidents are indeed happening, why isn’t anyone snapping a photo with their smartphone?

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,14:45   

Sig for sale:


Denyse(News):
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"By the way, if one does really believe in Darwinian evolution, why pay taxes for any government at all?"


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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,15:00   

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Sig for sale:


Denyse(News):  
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"By the way, if one does really believe in Darwinian evolution, why pay taxes for any government at all?"


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Now why didn't I think of that?

Oh right, decent intelligence, education, etc.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 29 2015,16:01   

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Sig for sale:


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"By the way, if one does really believe in Darwinian evolution, why pay taxes for any government at all?"


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Denyse, meet Kent.  Kent, meet Denyse.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,00:49   

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... (imagine O'Leary budgeting science research).  


Just imagine what boost to ID research we would see

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,01:14   

Quote (Woodbine @ Sep. 29 2015,09:16)
Unphased by Mapou's lunacy KF enters the thread to warn us of the very real existence of demons.

Even William 'last beacon of rationality' J Murray believes his wife is being abducted by aliens.

You don't want to be God with followers like them.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,05:37   

Quote (Glen Davidson @ Sep. 29 2015,10:30)
Gordie:

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For instance, I have recently personally witnessed demonisation manifesting in levitation, in a semi-public situation, with many other eyewitnesses.


Yes, and I have personally witnessed demonization by KF.

Should we conclude that KF is demonic, then?

Glen Davidson

Yes.

de·mon·ic
adjective
of, resembling, or characteristic of demons or evil spirits.
"demonic possession"
synonyms: devilish, fiendish, diabolical, satanic, Mephistophelean, hellish, infernal; evil, wicked
"demonic powers"
fiercely energetic or frenzied.
"in a demonic hurry"
synonyms: frenzied, wild, feverish, frenetic, frantic, furious, manic, like one possessed

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,06:07   

Hello.

I am new here but my name was not new here.

Last year, one of your posters had posted one of my science books, about Biology and you discussed many things about me. I am sorry that I did not have time to come here.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....st=1170

Yes, I am Edgar Postrado. I am the founder, father and discoverer of the real intelligence and the new Intelligent Design <id>.

Yes, I’ve written many science books after I discovered all of them. Yes, they were not well proofread since I am a freelance scientist. I don’t receive money from taxes and grants. Thus, I cannot pay those professional editors for their editing. I am doing it alone since, well, my new discoveries are all around you. They are too obvious. But I tell you that ToE has the best grammars but the worst science.

Yes, I am a member of CARM and I met Gary Gaulin there.

The last time I talked to Gary was two months ago in the other forum. I told him to quit/drop his ID since he did not actually talking intelligence since he too did not know the real intelligence. He would probably ask my help to explain his ID.

Yes, I attempted peer-reviews. But the reviewers were dumb and incompetent. You can read my entire documentations in my coming new science book titled, “Peer-Review and the new Intelligent Design <id>: a documentary”.

BRING THEM ON! Yes, I will bring them here if you want but please, bring your weapons too since every time I used the new Intelligent Design <id> in any debate, they all failed to answer.

One thing I can sure you are that: the era of ToE has already ended.

I wish that you could give me a chance to share my new discoveries here but I forewarn you that I cannot share everything since I had published them on my science books in Amazon as e-books. But I can help you to understand the new Intelligent Design <id> and why you are wrong in science. Please, make a new thread for me and let us see who has science.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,06:14   

[Grabs snacks; settles in]

This should is be fun.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,06:19   

From the Ben Carson thread at UD:

gordo: "DS, I speak to a case where I (a trained scientific person)..."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"...am eyeball, mark I with responsible others, under circumstances where people trying to take pictures would have been out of place. If you have a problem with that, no photographic evidence will suffice. And in fact, I checked; the phenomena I saw were not particularly unusual in former days. And, there were aspects I am not talking about that have revised my evaluation of things I once saw as innocent jokes. Moreover, on my own observations etc, I have a very different evaluation of the likelihood of other cases. E.g. I now take much more seriously the reports of poltergeist phenomena at a state house in another island, so much so that soldiers dreaded going there as guards. What I have seen and what has come to me from reliable witnesses and even victims, is consistent with the Gospels and Acts as well as sober minded reports of exorcisms. In general I only will say so much, I have no intention of glorifying malevolent, deceitful powers delighting in ugly intimidatory spectacles and torturing victims; instead I will glorify One whose very name is that of hope and release. That name, of the judicially murdered, Crucified One who rose from the dead with 500 unstoppable witnesses, is the name and paradigmatic case we should give careful heed to. Echoing Ps 95, the inspired writer pleads, today, if you hear his voice, harden not your hearts. KF"

gordo is insane, carson is insane, batshit77 is insane, and all of the other IDiot-creobots are insane.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,06:21   

ADDITIONAL INFO:

I have a degree in Civil Engineering (BSCE) and I received two scholarships in my univ student. Thus, I am not inferior to all of you academically, thus, be aware of whom you are debating in science. I did my homework and I hope that you did too.

Yes, the new replacement for ToE is called "Biological Interrelation, BiTs" and you can read it from one of my science books titled, "Biology of the new Intelligent Design <id>".

I've been in online debate forum for almost 15 years, thus, I knew already your arguments...if you are supporters of ToE, or old ID or Creationism or religious fanatics...thus, be aware of that. I did my homework since that how an scholar does.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,06:31   

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[Grabs snacks; settles in]

This should is be fun.

No, it won't.  

Unless by "fun" you mean discussion of dropping eggs through layers of toilet paper, and adding more layers until the egg doesn't break the TP, therefore "the new<id> (not ID.)"

Or poking lab rats with peanutbutter-coated sticks and since the rats back away, therefore Jesus.

And then there was the one about how hens could possible evolve an innate behavior to brood chicks, since ... sorry, my mind is busy boggling right now and I can't finish.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 30 2015,06:35   

Quote (fusilier @ Sep. 30 2015,06:31)
Quote (Mindrover @ Sep. 30 2015,07:14)
[Grabs snacks; settles in]

This should is be fun.

No, it won't.  

Unless by "fun" you mean discussion of dropping eggs through layers of toilet paper, and adding more layers until the egg doesn't break the TP, therefore "the new<id> (not ID.)"

Or poking lab rats with peanutbutter-coated sticks and since the rats back away, therefore Jesus.

And then there was the one about how hens could possible evolve an innate behavior to brood chicks, since ... sorry, my mind is busy boggling right now and I can't finish.

Oh my old friend in CARM...fusilier...

It was your fault (and some of your comrades in CARM) of not using the explanatory power of ToE to stop my new discoveries! YOU should HAD USED the 160 years researched power of ToE to smash my new discoveries so that I could already shut up and accept ToE!

Now, you will surely see how I crush your arguments and science. It is too painful for you to bear it...

  
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