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Stephen Elliott



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2006,04:52   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 25 2006,09:36)
If Larry's blog reduces the number of visitors to UD, DT has a ready-made solution: just slightly decrease the number of people he bans/deletes. Voila! No change in visitorship!

Hah! As if. He would suffer withdrawal symptoms.

I wonder how they would manifest thenselves. I doubt he could get any more vitriolic.

  
jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2006,11:15   

After reading (and posting) a few comments on this blog, I have to admit that one man there impresses me : John A Davison.
I understand your addiction Alan. ;)

The man published in Science, and now he claims that ID is a law that should be followed without question, that evolution is finished (??), exposing this as a fact because HE has some peer reviewed papers, but that he won't read scientific literature because it's a bunch of lies (he was a scientist himself! ) spitting insults in every post like a ten year old kid (how old is he, 70?)... This is just impressive.  :0

Dembski and others (Davescot included) are just evangelists, completely lost in the scientific theories they don't try to understand... But the Davison is unique.
Read again his death threat. He's deadly serious, while other posters are more or less joking or parodying.

I love him so.  :D

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2006,11:21   

Quote (jeannot @ April 25 2006,16:15)
After reading (and posting) a few comments on this blog, I have to admit that one man there impresses me : John A Davison.
I understand your addiction Alan. ;)

The man published in Science, and now he claims that ID is a law that should be followed without question, that evolution is finished (??), exposing this as a fact because HE has some peer reviewed papers, but that he won't read scientific literature because it's a bunch of lies (he was a scientist himself! ) spitting insults in every post like a ten year old kid (how old is he, 70?)... This is just impressive.  :0

Dembski and others (Davescot included) are just evangelists, completely lost in the scientific theories they don't try to understand... But the Davison is unique.
Read again his death threat. He's deadly serious, while other posters are more or less joking or parodying.

I love him so.  :D

He's 77 years old.

I know, I know.

Let this be a lesson: plan your life during retirement better than that. Don't let this happen to you. Don't waste your 'golden years' being a bitter old crank who insults everyone and who absolutely no one takes seriously.

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jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2006,11:31   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 25 2006,16:21)
Let this be a lesson: plan your life during retirement better than that. Don't let this happen to you. Don't waste your 'golden years' being a bitter old crank who insults everyone and who absolutely no one takes seriously.

Stop it Arden, you're scaring me...!  :0

  
improvius



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2006,04:53   

In Larry's latest thread, I managed to convince at leat one person that Luskin is arguing against ID.  Unless, of course, kizzmet is joking.  (In which case I must say he's very convincing, and he got me!;)  This new blog is great fun!

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Many Jews were in comfortable oblivion about Hitler ... until it was too late.
Many scientists will persist in comfortable oblivion about their Creator ... until it is too late.

  
C.J.O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2006,10:18   

Wow. Just wow.
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Kizzzmet said...
cj you wrote:

"And I agree that IC is easy to understand. What is also easy to understand is that we expect such structures to result from natural selection, and, in fact, NS is the only well-understood process that could, in principle, give rise to such features."

The problem is that natural selection doesn't change bodily structures, all it does is decide what survives. Mutation is supposedly what changes bodily structure. Chance mutation somehow built bio technology so complex that we cannot even begin to replicate it nor really understand how any of it works in great detail. A series of mutations built an eye? built a hand? built a nervous system? built wings? built mango seeds? built a rose? How can blind chance mutations build highly sophisticated bio technologically integrated massively complex information storing and reading life forms? That's like believing if you zap an amoeba and it's offspring with radiation for long enough that it will turn into an apple tree by chance. Or if you throw paint at a canvas long enough you'll get the Mona Lisa. It's just plain dumb.

You also wrote:

"A couple of questions, there, kizzmet:
When, in your understanding, did this "unified field of superconcious energy" came into existence?"

Many if not most physicists already believe and have hypothesized about a unified field of energy throughout the universe for some time now. When you want to consider the origin of matter/energy in the universe you have to come to a point where you say matter/energy has always existed. Why? Because if anything exists then there was never a time when nothing existed. This is because if there ever was a time when nothing existed then nothing would ever come into existence because nothing produces nothing. So the conclusion according to the current accepted laws of physics is the matter/energy can not be created nor destroyed. All it does is change into different types of matter/energy.

So where did the universal superconscious unified field come from? It was always here. Although the consciousness and mind was in a potential state until some unknown change came about. The universe (infinite universe not the big bang bull) came alive at some point in time a very long time ago. It developed from an ignorant state into a supra intelligent state. This is how it had to happen because knowledge is not inherent in anything. All knowledge has a source and must be acquired. Therefore "God" was born totally ignorant and then developed over a very long period of time until eventually he/she was able to entertain itself. When you're the only conscious entity in existence with nothing to do but exist in infinite space all alone you are highly motivated to change that situation. The earth and similar planets are the result of "God" wanting something to do and intelligent people to relate with.

Then you wrote:

"Was everything in the living world designed, or just things that are IC?"

All the product of design, "God" controls everything and everyone. We and everything else exist within and are a part of and depend on "God" for our existence.

Then you wrote:

"Was everyhting designed at the same time?"

"God" has to actually make a plan and design things just like anyone else, so no it took a long time to design everything. But everything we have experience of on earth was designed trillions of years ago. "God" is very very ancient. Earth is just a tiny planet amongst trillions of similar and better planets with humans on them. Humans are the forms "God" created to enjoy with and to give other people lives to enjoy with. Our bodies are not the product of chance, they are the ultimate enjoying machines (potentially, when you have evolved your consciousnes to the perfected stage then you are given a perfect body and you will live on a perfect planet with no disease, death, old age etc)

Then you asked:

"Why are there so many extinct species?
Thanks so much."

It's all a part of a historical plan. History is not chaotic, it's all planned out and it happens in the same way on countless other earth type planets. The way history on earth has unfolded is for a purpose. It's like a movie in that it plays out according to the script and the director for a purpose. That purpose is to elevate our consciousness, evolve our consciousness. So the ancient earth existed for modern day purposes, for modern day debate. You must remember that until a little over one hundred years ago the very ancient past of earth had never been known by any humans throughout history. It's only in modern society where we have learned about the earth's distant past. What happened millions of years ago on earth was for the purpose of discussing it in modern society, to incite debate on these topics, to show us something e.g. the great age and planning skill of "God".

But ID doesn't have ANYTHING to do with religion.

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improvius



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2006,10:24   

I'm still not totally convinced that kissmet is serious.  That stuff is pretty far out there.

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Quote (afdave @ Oct. 02 2006,18:37)
Many Jews were in comfortable oblivion about Hitler ... until it was too late.
Many scientists will persist in comfortable oblivion about their Creator ... until it is too late.

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2006,16:08   

I'm still not totally convinced that JAD is serious. He draws inferences that boggle the mind. For example ... Oh jesus never mind. for example look at anything the real Mr. JDA has written.

Oh yeah, apparently he wants to be called Dr. He doesn't like being called Mr.

But I am having a problem calling him Dr. I keep forgetting and calling him Mr.

I think he is the real money shot over there. I mean Larry is fun but he isn't the brightest bulb in the shed. JAD on the other hand, He's certifiable. He is also the only one I've ever heard make arguments that sound sciency. (well, behe and dembski sort of sound sciency but they don't have the same curb appeal.

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When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,01:26   

Jeannot, Stephen, BWE

That's how it starts. You think you are the one in control; you think you are the one exercising free will. but it's all been predetermined. I look forward to meeting you in rehab soon!

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,04:17   

Quote (Alan Fox @ April 28 2006,06:26)
Jeannot, Stephen, BWE

That's how it starts. You think you are the one in control; you think you are the one exercising free will. but it's all been predetermined. I look forward to meeting you in rehab soon!

The first step is admitting you have a problem.  :p

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,08:18   

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The first step is admitting you have a problem.

The second step is caring that you have a problem?   :0

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,11:06   

mmm, it seems some posts disappear from Larry's blog.

Someone named Ben wrote a very insightful comment on JAD, but now his post is empty.

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,11:14   

What thread?

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,11:15   

Quote (jeannot @ April 28 2006,16:06)
mmm, it seems some posts disappear from Larry's blog.

Someone named Ben wrote a very insightful comment on JAD, but now his post is empty.

Well, if Ben is a registered user, it's conceivable he edited it himself.

Otherwise, it looks like Larry took only 2 weeks to break his "I-Will-Never-Censor-Anyone" vows.

Did anyone copy it?

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jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,11:18   

Apparently, Ben is not a registered user.

EDIT : Strange, apparently his comment is back. Maybe it was just my web browser, but still...(?)

  
Mr_Christopher



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,11:24   

Isn't Larry a Holocaust denier, or revisionist?  When is he going to share on that subject?

Chris

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,11:25   

He's just getting warmed up. He'll get there.

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When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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The Wayward Hammer



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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2006,12:04   

I finally got around to reading Larry's blog.  What a fun mess.  JAD is a nasty old crank with nothing left to say other than the world passed him by.  His titanic jousts with DaveSnot are worth the price of admission.

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: May 01 2006,04:16   

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>>>>Larry, it ain't our problem if you ain't bright enough to understand why the reconciliation of faith and science doesn't mean that science is religion.<<<<
(Larry replies)
What is your problem is that you are not bright enough to understand the points that I made in my opening post.


This is why is it fun to bait, er, discuss ID and evolution with Larry.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

The Daily Wingnut

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: May 01 2006,13:39   

I thought Larry wasn't getting the attention he deserved. So I went hunting for something good, and found the following example of Larry's penetrating intellect.

(From one of Chris Hyland's recent interactions with Lare-Dog:)

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Larry:"And I have heard that some discoveries in genetics do not support evolution theory."

Chris: Do you have any citations for this?

Larry: Not at the moment -- it was just hearsay. But I know that scientists have tended to gloss over data that contradicts evolution theory, so I found it easy to believe the claim that some discoveries in genetics do not support evolution theory. I would not be surprised to find out that this is true.


As usual, IDC folks get the kind of heroes they deserve...

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 01 2006,13:41   

LOL

   
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: May 01 2006,18:17   

Or this gem:
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>>>>And, in answer to your comment above, If my religion tells that 2+2=3, should they avoid math in school or say that, even though I certainly have a right to my religion.<<<< (that was my question he is quoting)

Well, why don't you start arguing "teach the controversy" in support of teaching your belief that 2+2=3 ?

That was his answer to my question :D

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: May 02 2006,07:22   

2+2=3 for very small values of 2. :)

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2006,06:22   

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The next shithead who calls me ignorant of the law or biology is going to be scorched by a reply that will be the biggest flame that he ever got.
Larry's enjoying his newfound fame. So are a bunch of people.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

The Daily Wingnut

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2006,06:56   

I briefly forgot about that guy.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2006,07:03   

and within a minute of going there I'm cracking up

colin says
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You misunderstand the case. That is hardly surprising; having read your posts, you are as bewilderingly ignorant of the law as you are of biology...

(and his post goes on for pages explaining what's wrong with Larry's argument)

then
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Anonymous said...

   Colin, it's really much easier to summarize Larry's posts on law and biology:

   "Larry, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about."

   There, that sums it up nicely.

   Wednesday, May 03, 2006 3:16:48 PM


larry:
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>>>>>You misunderstand the case. That is hardly surprising; having read your posts, you are as bewilderingly ignorant of the law as you are of biology.<<<<<<

The next shithead who calls me ignorant of the law or biology is going to be scorched by a reply that will be the biggest flame that he ever got.

colin:
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Colin said...

   The next shithead who calls me ignorant of the law or biology is going to be scorched by a reply that will be the biggest flame that he ever got.

   That's very nice. But if people constantly tell you that you don't understand those topics, isn't it just possible that they are right? You really, truly don't comprehend the law in this case.

Larry:
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Larry Fafarman said...

   Colin said ( 5/03/2006 10:05:43 PM ) --

   >>>>But if people constantly tell you that you don't understand those topics, isn't it just possible that they are right?<<<<<

   No.


LOL!

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2006,07:14   

Larry's now calling his critics 'shitheads'? Tsk tsk tsk. So much for his short-lived 'moral high ground'.  :D

"Everyone everywhere repeatedly tells me I have no idea what I'm talking about in terms of the law or biology. But I know that they're all wrong. I just know. Besides, John Davison said he likes me!"

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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2006,08:24   

It's.  It's horrible.  I just had a quick peek to see what Larry was up to, and just had to read all of the thread with Colin the Lawyer (and JAD, of course).  It's like a Jeffrey Archer novel.  You know it's crap, but you can't stop yourself.

Bob
P.S. for hockey fans: Finland managed to amass 39 minutes of penalties in the first period of their match against Latvia.  And the score was still 0-0.

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2006,10:57   

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I briefly forgot about that guy.


So you're not "anonymous" then?

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P.S. for hockey fans:


?

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 07 2006,11:44   

when he first started the blog i posted a few comments, but nothing in weeks.

   
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