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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2015,11:39   

Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 28 2015,23:19)
Either that or a positive feedback loop.

Yes and previously controversial Gaia theory pertains to the molecular level feedback loops that help keep our world in perfect harmony.

Related human expressions:

The New Seekers - I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing 1972 with Lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....nrEjJK4

Coca-Cola 70's Christmas Hilltop Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....FvVg0UY

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The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

   
NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2015,11:44   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Aug. 29 2015,12:39)
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 28 2015,23:19)
Either that or a positive feedback loop.

Yes and previously controversial Gaia theory pertains to the molecular level feedback loops that help keep our world in perfect harmony.

Related human expressions:

The New Seekers - I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing 1972 with Lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....nrEjJK4

Coca-Cola 70's Christmas Hilltop Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....FvVg0UY

"Previously" controversial?
Are you now become the arbiter of controversy, having declared this one closed?

It is clear that you haven't a clue about feedback loops, and why positive feedback loops are generally not a good thing.  
But then, there is nothing in the world about which you are not clueless.

That appears to be you on the right in this far more apropos video:
tl;dr Gary

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2015,15:40   

Quote (NoName @ Aug. 29 2015,11:44)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Aug. 29 2015,12:39)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 28 2015,23:19)
Either that or a positive feedback loop.

Yes and previously controversial Gaia theory pertains to the molecular level feedback loops that help keep our world in perfect harmony.

Related human expressions:

The New Seekers - I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing 1972 with Lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....nrEjJK4

Coca-Cola 70's Christmas Hilltop Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....FvVg0UY

"Previously" controversial?
Are you now become the arbiter of controversy, having declared this one closed?

40 years later the flame inside that lights our way still broadcasts brightly into the sky. Intensity only increased by adding digital audio and video broadcasts to our spectrum, for other worlds to more clearly hear and see us. The time it will take to reach them helps make sure their part of the universe has developed electronic technology required to see us from wherever they are in outer space, as we (including from science who from behind the scenes influence human culture) shine by:

Ellie Goulding - Burn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....d0aKWZE

The Discovery Institute dreamed of through science changing culture. And for hoopla sake it's best that I do not declare their controversy closed. The best is yet to come. At the moment all depends on where science goes in regards to operationally defining "reciprocal causation" for biology. The only theory premised for where that leads just happens to be ID theory the DI worded. I'm just a catalyst for what already exists, where the controversy ends on its own after arriving at scientific theory Sal for-real thrives in too. ID is in harmony with the developing message from human intelligent cause still being added the radio wave features of the universe and of living things to come to see and be influenced by. This is all beyond what the DI first imagined possible, but where it's even better than they thought then so be it.

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The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

   
NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2015,15:43   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Aug. 29 2015,16:40)
Quote (NoName @ Aug. 29 2015,11:44)
 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Aug. 29 2015,12:39)
   
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 28 2015,23:19)
Either that or a positive feedback loop.

Yes and previously controversial Gaia theory pertains to the molecular level feedback loops that help keep our world in perfect harmony.

Related human expressions:

The New Seekers - I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing 1972 with Lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....nrEjJK4

Coca-Cola 70's Christmas Hilltop Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....FvVg0UY

"Previously" controversial?
Are you now become the arbiter of controversy, having declared this one closed?

40 years later the flame inside that lights our way still broadcasts brightly into the sky. Intensity only increased by adding digital audio and video broadcasts to our spectrum, for other worlds to more clearly hear and see us. The time it will take to reach them helps make sure their part of the universe has developed electronic technology required to see us from wherever they are in outer space, as we (including from science who from behind the scenes influence human culture) shine by:

Ellie Goulding - Burn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....d0aKWZE

The Discovery Institute dreamed of through science changing culture. And for hoopla sake it's best that I do not declare their controversy closed. The best is yet to come. At the moment all depends on where science goes in regards to operationally defining "reciprocal causation" for biology. The only theory premised for where that leads just happens to be ID theory the DI worded. I'm just a catalyst for what already exists, where the controversy ends on its own after arriving at scientific theory Sal for-real thrives in too. ID is in harmony with the developing message from human intelligent cause still being added the radio wave features of the universe and of living things to come to see and be influenced by. This is all beyond what the DI first imagined possible, but where it's even better than they thought then so be it.

Gibbering insanity, every phrase.

It is beyond irrelevant what you declare closed or open.
ID is a shadow of a ghost of a failed delusion.
That you cling to it so tightly is merely another symptom of your madness.
Ask the DI if they're satisfied with what they've achieved.  Were you to somehow winkle truth out of those wrinkled liars, you would see the twisted pain of their failures.  You wouldn't recognize it, lest you recognize your own, but that's your problem.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2015,16:02   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Aug. 29 2015,15:40)
Quote (NoName @ Aug. 29 2015,11:44)
 
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Aug. 29 2015,12:39)
   
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 28 2015,23:19)
Either that or a positive feedback loop.

Yes and previously controversial Gaia theory pertains to the molecular level feedback loops that help keep our world in perfect harmony.

Related human expressions:

The New Seekers - I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing 1972 with Lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....nrEjJK4

Coca-Cola 70's Christmas Hilltop Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....FvVg0UY

"Previously" controversial?
Are you now become the arbiter of controversy, having declared this one closed?

40 years later the flame inside that lights our way still broadcasts brightly into the sky. Intensity only increased by adding digital audio and video broadcasts to our spectrum, for other worlds to more clearly hear and see us. The time it will take to reach them helps make sure their part of the universe has developed electronic technology required to see us from wherever they are in outer space, as we (including from science who from behind the scenes influence human culture) shine by:

Ellie Goulding - Burn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....d0aKWZE

The Discovery Institute dreamed of through science changing culture. And for hoopla sake it's best that I do not declare their controversy closed. The best is yet to come. At the moment all depends on where science goes in regards to operationally defining "reciprocal causation" for biology. The only theory premised for where that leads just happens to be ID theory the DI worded. I'm just a catalyst for what already exists, where the controversy ends on its own after arriving at scientific theory Sal for-real thrives in too. ID is in harmony with the developing message from human intelligent cause still being added the radio wave features of the universe and of living things to come to see and be influenced by. This is all beyond what the DI first imagined possible, but where it's even better than they thought then so be it.

My God, what if aliens take Gaulin and the DI as representative of humanity?

Apocalypse, to keep the stupid from spreading.

Glen Davidson

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2015,16:05   

Neither Gaulin nor the DI appear to be particularly infectious.
Gaulin in particular has failed, utterly and completely, to infect so much as a single mind with his swill.
The DI did slightly better for a while, but their swindle has been exposed.  They fare considerably less well than Ken Ham or any of the vast range of televangelists.
They aspire to be ISIS, but barely manage the spittle-flecked fury to keep themselves warm around the dead fires of their failed aspirations.

  
ChemiCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2015,16:39   

I think, just an idea, that Gaulin is trying to say that he is angling for a job with the DI. He can then sink into total anti-science instead of just skimming the surface.

I won't hold my breath whilst the Luskin Circus even acknowledges that Gaulin exists.

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The Discovery Institute dreamed of through science changing culture.


The Disco'tute doesn't do science so you should fit in well if the offer materialises, Gaulin.

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2015,22:06   

Quote (ChemiCat @ Aug. 30 2015,00:39)
I think, just an idea, that Gaulin is trying to say that he is angling for a job with the DI. He can then sink into total anti-science instead of just skimming the surface.

I won't hold my breath whilst the Luskin Circus even acknowledges that Gaulin exists.

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The Discovery Institute dreamed of through science changing culture.


The Disco'tute doesn't do science so you should fit in well if the offer materialises, Gaulin.

The DI might be stupid and crazy  but they're not THAT stupid and crazy.

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ChemiCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2015,08:43   

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The DI might be stupid and crazy  but they're not THAT stupid and crazy.


Are you sure about that?

  
NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2015,09:02   

Quote (ChemiCat @ Aug. 31 2015,09:43)
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The DI might be stupid and crazy  but they're not THAT stupid and crazy.


Are you sure about that?

Well, unlike at least some of the founders of the DI and UD, Gary has a perfect track record of convincing zero people anywhere anytime that he's on to something.
'On something' perhaps, but on to something, nah.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2015,10:34   

Quote (ChemiCat @ Aug. 31 2015,16:43)
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The DI might be stupid and crazy  but they're not THAT stupid and crazy.


Are you sure about that?

Actually that would be a good indicator of the DI's insanity wouldn't it? The fact that they haven't already snapped Gary up when he's obviously doing so well ◔_◔ on this thread may only mean they are tired as well as stupid and insane.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2015,11:40   

Or it could just mean that they don't like his conclusions.

And after all, how they feel about a conclusion is their primary criteria for whether to accept it or not.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,07:51   

That's funny (not ha-ha), both Gaulin and the Time-cube guy disappear at the same time.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,08:10   

Quote (ChemiCat @ Sep. 04 2015,08:51)
That's funny (not ha-ha), both Gaulin and the Time-cube guy disappear at the same time.

Has anyone ever seen the two of them in the same place at the same time?
Just wonderin'  ;->

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,10:24   

Quote (NoName @ Sep. 04 2015,16:10)
Quote (ChemiCat @ Sep. 04 2015,08:51)
That's funny (not ha-ha), both Gaulin and the Time-cube guy disappear at the same time.

Has anyone ever seen the two of them in the same place at the same time?
Just wonderin'  ;->

Obviously a conspiracy. They've both been ignored by the NSA so they've collaborated and disappeared deliberately to Roswell to start a delinquent church. Letters to various government bodies begging for handouts are being prepared as we speak.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,10:43   

Quote (k.e.. @ Sep. 04 2015,11:24)
Quote (NoName @ Sep. 04 2015,16:10)
Quote (ChemiCat @ Sep. 04 2015,08:51)
That's funny (not ha-ha), both Gaulin and the Time-cube guy disappear at the same time.

Has anyone ever seen the two of them in the same place at the same time?
Just wonderin'  ;->

Obviously a conspiracy. They've both been ignored by the NSA so they've collaborated and disappeared deliberately to Roswell to start a delinquent church. Letters to various government bodies begging for handouts are being prepared as we speak.

And we all know how very very good at fund raising Gary is.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,10:51   

Quote (NoName @ Sep. 04 2015,18:43)
Quote (k.e.. @ Sep. 04 2015,11:24)
Quote (NoName @ Sep. 04 2015,16:10)
 
Quote (ChemiCat @ Sep. 04 2015,08:51)
That's funny (not ha-ha), both Gaulin and the Time-cube guy disappear at the same time.

Has anyone ever seen the two of them in the same place at the same time?
Just wonderin'  ;->

Obviously a conspiracy. They've both been ignored by the NSA so they've collaborated and disappeared deliberately to Roswell to start a delinquent church. Letters to various government bodies begging for handouts are being prepared as we speak.

And we all know how very very good at fund raising Gary is.

No problem he's going to call the DISCOtute and get them to send a media bandwagon and a lawyer to sue Wes for being mean to him.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,16:43   

edit--mibad. wrong thread.

Edited by stevestory on Sep. 04 2015,18:26

   
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,17:12   

I expected to find the Spanish Inquisition in that list, but didn't find it!

ETA - the note I was referring to went and moved to another thread.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,18:40   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 04 2015,16:43)
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sean samisSeptember 4, 2015 at 3:07 pm
I think this debate between kairosfocus and myself is coming to its effective end. Our arguments are beginning to become repetitious; I’ve seen all KF has, and all I can do is remind him of why he is wrong. I’m sure KF feels exactly the same way about me and mine.

Now kairosfocus is so frustrated at his inability to change my mind that KF’s beginning to insinuate that I must be evil. That is a sign that this needs to end.

Wide-spread belief in kairosfocus’s “world-root-level” grounding of morality does absolutely no good for preventing evil.

It did not stop the thousands of Germans who committed the Holocaust, or the thousands of Polish, Russian, French, Dutch etc. collaborators who were accomplices in that crime.

It did not stop 19th century pogroms in Imperial Russia. It didn’t stop the African Slave Trade or Southern lynchings or Jim Crow laws. It didn’t stop the Wars of Religion in Europe, nor mass-murder of Jews in medieval Germany, nor witch burnings, heretic burnings, and on and on and on.

It doesn’t stop Christians from getting abortions today, a problem so great that some churches and denominations struggle to find ways to minister to members who’ve gotten abortions.

It doesn’t stop conservative politicians who take money away from programs intended to serve poor children and mothers so they can lower taxes for the wealthy. Strangly; “godless” Europeans have fewer abortions than we Religious Americans do. And they take better care of their children too. Are those related facts? Probably.

In any event, belief in kairosfocus’s “world-root-level” grounding of morality does absolutely no good for preventing any of these evils. Is the solution to the crisis of abortion to proclaim “Ontology!”? Will that change hearts and minds?

Would my alternative, a moral system based on the mandate of the Golden Rule and founded on Reason and Facts of Nature do better? I think so because it does not try to leverage beliefs in deities. Deities have been and are used to justify all manner of horror because “God said so, and God’s ways are mysterious.” All those horrors I mentioned above were supported by religious leaders in the name of their God.

And now we have Godly believers who won’t take their children to doctors, who throw acid at little children, who destroy antiquities, who induce children to become sex-slaves and child-soldiers and suicide bombers, who go to the funerals of fallen soldiers and cheer the weapons that killed them.

Think of all the conflict zones in the world; how many are driven by religious disagreements? Most are. I cannot think of a war in all of history where religious leaders on either side (much less BOTH sides!) were like: “Hold on there! This is wrong!” Mark Twain’s War Prayer got it right.

My morality replaces God with Reason and Facts. Oh for sure people can and will dispute Reason and Facts (just like they do theistic ideas) but because reason and facts are accessible to all, there is no claiming that “Reason’s ways are mysterious”; reasons ways are reasonable by definition. Facts are facts.

My alternative is not perfect, but that’s not the standard we need meet. We just need better. And boy! Do we need better!

Kairosfocus is part of the team that runs UD (or so it appears) so I will give him the last word on this thread.

Thank you all for your kind attention.

sean s.


linky

My Methodist training taught me that Reason and Facts come from God, which is to be visualized as a 24/7 Creator that is somehow everywhere and in everything (i.e. living things). We have free-will to choose for ourselves with brains designed for reasoning with facts. Much has to do with what gives us purpose that lives on in future generations, or not, which in the theory is described in scientific detail that gets into the salmon and alligators.

Logically speaking: "Reason and Facts" morality cannot replace "God". Only waste time while getting yourselves upset by trying to convince the UD crew otherwise. They might have a religion filled way of explaining things, but at least they have the true/false level of detail 100% right.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,18:46   

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 04 2015,16:43)
edit--mibad. wrong thread.

Oh. I was wondering why it was posted in this thread. It seemed weird, like you posted in the wrong thread. But the theory helps explain why that sort of thing exists and around here that's the more topical than usual.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 04 2015,21:58   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Sep. 04 2015,18:40)
Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 04 2015,16:43)
 
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sean samisSeptember 4, 2015 at 3:07 pm
I think this debate between kairosfocus and myself is coming to its effective end. Our arguments are beginning to become repetitious; I’ve seen all KF has, and all I can do is remind him of why he is wrong. I’m sure KF feels exactly the same way about me and mine.

Now kairosfocus is so frustrated at his inability to change my mind that KF’s beginning to insinuate that I must be evil. That is a sign that this needs to end.

Wide-spread belief in kairosfocus’s “world-root-level” grounding of morality does absolutely no good for preventing evil.

It did not stop the thousands of Germans who committed the Holocaust, or the thousands of Polish, Russian, French, Dutch etc. collaborators who were accomplices in that crime.

It did not stop 19th century pogroms in Imperial Russia. It didn’t stop the African Slave Trade or Southern lynchings or Jim Crow laws. It didn’t stop the Wars of Religion in Europe, nor mass-murder of Jews in medieval Germany, nor witch burnings, heretic burnings, and on and on and on.

It doesn’t stop Christians from getting abortions today, a problem so great that some churches and denominations struggle to find ways to minister to members who’ve gotten abortions.

It doesn’t stop conservative politicians who take money away from programs intended to serve poor children and mothers so they can lower taxes for the wealthy. Strangly; “godless” Europeans have fewer abortions than we Religious Americans do. And they take better care of their children too. Are those related facts? Probably.

In any event, belief in kairosfocus’s “world-root-level” grounding of morality does absolutely no good for preventing any of these evils. Is the solution to the crisis of abortion to proclaim “Ontology!”? Will that change hearts and minds?

Would my alternative, a moral system based on the mandate of the Golden Rule and founded on Reason and Facts of Nature do better? I think so because it does not try to leverage beliefs in deities. Deities have been and are used to justify all manner of horror because “God said so, and God’s ways are mysterious.” All those horrors I mentioned above were supported by religious leaders in the name of their God.

And now we have Godly believers who won’t take their children to doctors, who throw acid at little children, who destroy antiquities, who induce children to become sex-slaves and child-soldiers and suicide bombers, who go to the funerals of fallen soldiers and cheer the weapons that killed them.

Think of all the conflict zones in the world; how many are driven by religious disagreements? Most are. I cannot think of a war in all of history where religious leaders on either side (much less BOTH sides!) were like: “Hold on there! This is wrong!” Mark Twain’s War Prayer got it right.

My morality replaces God with Reason and Facts. Oh for sure people can and will dispute Reason and Facts (just like they do theistic ideas) but because reason and facts are accessible to all, there is no claiming that “Reason’s ways are mysterious”; reasons ways are reasonable by definition. Facts are facts.

My alternative is not perfect, but that’s not the standard we need meet. We just need better. And boy! Do we need better!

Kairosfocus is part of the team that runs UD (or so it appears) so I will give him the last word on this thread.

Thank you all for your kind attention.

sean s.


linky

My Methodist training taught me that Reason and Facts come from God, which is to be visualized as a 24/7 Creator that is somehow everywhere and in everything (i.e. living things). We have free-will to choose for ourselves with brains designed for reasoning with facts. Much has to do with what gives us purpose that lives on in future generations, or not, which in the theory is described in scientific detail that gets into the salmon and alligators.

Logically speaking: "Reason and Facts" morality cannot replace "God". Only waste time while getting yourselves upset by trying to convince the UD crew otherwise. They might have a religion filled way of explaining things, but at least they have the true/false level of detail 100% right.

Hooray!!! Moar bible verses!!!11!!!11!!!!11!!!11.....!!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2015,07:04   

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My Methodist training taught me that Reason and Facts come from God, which is to be visualized as a 24/7 Creator that is somehow everywhere and in everything (i.e. living things).


Yet more un-evidenced assertions from the master of assertions.

I offer odds that we get onto discussing "objective morality" next.

It's all about the science, isn't it Gaulin.[sarcasm, as you won't realise this].

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2015,08:22   

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We have free-will to choose for ourselves with brains designed for reasoning with facts.

More assertions without evidence.  You haven't presented any evidence that brains are designed, nor that the most primitive brains reason with facts rather than simply coordinating evolved, genetically hard-wired, responses to specific stimuli.  Free will does not have a hyphen, and is another assertion here, albeit one that I agree with.

 
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Much has to do with what gives us purpose that lives on in future generations, or not, which in the theory is described in scientific detail that gets into the salmon and alligators.
And you continue to use really bad examples for your claims: most salmon die on spawning; male alligators happily eat baby alligators; and while we can find purposes that extend to future generations, most organisms have no such capability.  Lineages that fail to reproduce necessarily end, so every lineage that exists is an unbroken chain of successful reproductions - there isn't anything inherently forward-looking or purposeful in that.  It can simply be the result of a contingent history.

 
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but at least they have the true/false level of detail 100% right.
 What?  Whatever you mean, you haven't presented any evidence that they've got anything right at all.

  
ChemiCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2015,01:50   

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They might have a religion filled way of explaining things, but at least they have the true/false level of detail 100% right.


My brain shut down to protect itself from the stupidity and I missed the last sentence.

Gaulin, what does this mean? That they are 100% right and 100% wrong at the same time?

It's all about the science!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2015,12:16   

You see what happened here.

Methodist training + science exposure = desperate attempts at reconciliation in a faulty mind.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2015,15:35   

So he's a Methodist actor?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2015,03:17   

No more like a rhythm Methodist failure.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2015,08:56   

I'll highlight the true/false:
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Sep. 04 2015,18:40)
Logically speaking: "Reason and Facts" morality cannot replace "God". Only waste time while getting yourselves upset by trying to convince the UD crew otherwise. They might have a religion filled way of explaining things, but at least they have the true/false level of detail 100% right.

Science helps make it possible to have a more detailed view of how whatever created us works, but science mixed with free-will does not replace what in religion is called "God" or "Creator".

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2015,09:22   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Sep. 07 2015,09:56)
I'll highlight the true/false:
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Sep. 04 2015,18:40)
Logically speaking: "Reason and Facts" morality cannot replace "God". Only waste time while getting yourselves upset by trying to convince the UD crew otherwise. They might have a religion filled way of explaining things, but at least they have the true/false level of detail 100% right.

Science helps make it possible to have a more detailed view of how whatever created us works, but science mixed with free-will does not replace what in religion is called "God" or "Creator".

It is not necessary to replace a nullity.

  
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