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CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 19 2015,23:16    Speaking of Time cube,  WWW.TIMECUBE.COM seems to have become some sort of link farm.  I forget who used to own it, but he made the UD crew look relatively sane and capable in comparison.  Anybody know what happened?

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,02:57    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Aug. 19 2015,17:11) Possibly the stupidest thing that. Barry has ever said.   Quote The self-evident is untestable. But I have faith that he will shortly say something even more stupid. He's trying his best to prove you right: A Response to The Materialists’ “Possible Possum” Gambit -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,08:36    Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 20 2015,02:57)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Aug. 19 2015,17:11) Possibly the stupidest thing that. Barry has ever said.     Quote The self-evident is untestable. But I have faith that he will shortly say something even more stupid. He's trying his best to prove you right: A Response to The Materialists’ “Possible Possum” Gambit Is there an absolute stupid, like there's an absolute zero of temperature? Is there an analogue of Charles' Law? Can we call it Coles' Law?

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,09:11    Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 20 2015,06:36) Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 20 2015,02:57)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Aug. 19 2015,17:11) Possibly the stupidest thing that. Barry has ever said.       Quote The self-evident is untestable. But I have faith that he will shortly say something even more stupid. He's trying his best to prove you right: A Response to The Materialists’ “Possible Possum” Gambit Is there an absolute stupid, like there's an absolute zero of temperature? Is there an analogue of Charles' Law? Can we call it Coles' Law? When an opponent's argument has been shredded? eta apostrophe for the possessive. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Cubist Posts: 558 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,11:33    Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 19 2015,23:16) Speaking of Time cube,  WWW.TIMECUBE.COM seems to have become some sort of link farm.  I forget who used to own it, but he made the UD crew look relatively sane and capable in comparison.  Anybody know what happened? Weird: I just visited timecube.com, and the site is visible in all its glory—for, like, maybe 5 seconds, after which the "link farm" stuff takes over the browser window. If you're quick with your browser's "show page source" function, you can copy the text of the site and paste it into a word processing window. And, of course, the Internet Archive has preserved the site, graphics included. Hmmm… the timecube.com source says, in (very small) part, <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11">. If Wikipedia is right about which version of Word was sold under which name, Word 11 is better known as "Office Word 2003".

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,15:49    Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 20 2015,14:36) Is there an absolute stupid, like there's an absolute zero of temperature? Yes: It's when cerebral activity slows to a degree that removes all uncertainty - even Heisenberg's - from the mind of the subject. Technically, it's the point where Brownian Motion in the brain is entirely replaced by a brown motion. -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,16:09    Quote (Amadan @ Aug. 20 2015,15:49) Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 20 2015,14:36) Is there an absolute stupid, like there's an absolute zero of temperature? Yes: It's when cerebral activity slows to a degree that removes all uncertainty - even Heisenberg's - from the mind of the subject. Technically, it's the point where Brownian Motion in the brain is entirely replaced by a brown motion. Considering the source, something IDists rarely do - unless it's KJV Chapter & Verse - I think one is best served by thinking of it as an "ocean of brown motion".  HTH  :) -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,16:21    Quote (Cubist @ Aug. 20 2015,11:33)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 19 2015,23:16) Speaking of Time cube,  WWW.TIMECUBE.COM seems to have become some sort of link farm.  I forget who used to own it, but he made the UD crew look relatively sane and capable in comparison.  Anybody know what happened? Weird: I just visited timecube.com, and the site is visible in all its glory—for, like, maybe 5 seconds, after which the "link farm" stuff takes over the browser window. If you're quick with your browser's "show page source" function, you can copy the text of the site and paste it into a word processing window. And, of course, the Internet Archive has preserved the site, graphics included. Hmmm… the timecube.com source says, in (very small) part, <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11">. If Wikipedia is right about which version of Word was sold under which name, Word 11 is better known as "Office Word 2003". It loaded ok for me earlier and I didn't see the link farm bit. It must be because I use NoScript (script blocker) and Ghostery so I didn't get bounced. My uneducated guess is someone gave it a hackey-poo (don't suppose Gene is very security minded and uses the same email he has pasted all over the site) and added a little script. -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,17:34    Dense: Quote Home » Exoplanets, Extraterrestrial life, News » Earth is outside habitable zone? Earth is outside habitable zone? August 20, 2015 Posted by News under Exoplanets, Extraterrestrial life, News No Comments Kepler has been looking for rocky worlds that could possibly retain liquid water on their surface Well, first, the BBC asks: What makes a planet habitable? Here: Quote Water in liquid form is thought to be a necessity for life on Earth. Based on this, let’s look at the classical definition for the habitable zone as the region around a star, such as our own Sun, where the temperature of any orbiting planet permits water in liquid form. Quote But, as it happens, there are difficulties. What if the planet sports a blanket of white clouds? Clouds are reflective and therefore will cool the planet, acting to push the habitable zone closer to the star. Amusingly, if we calculate this “equilibrium temperature” for the Earth, taking into account its beautifully reflective clouds, then it turns out that we live outside the classical habitable zone! The same calculation for Venus gives an expected equilibrium temperature of about -10̊C, but in reality it is more like 450̊C.What happened? and then she skips to some other quotes. let's see what she cut off from the BBC hmmmm? Quote What if the planet sports a blanket of white clouds? Clouds are reflective and therefore will cool the planet, acting to push the habitable zone closer to the star. Amusingly, if we calculate this "equilibrium temperature" for the Earth, taking into account its beautifully reflective clouds, then it turns out that we live outside the classical habitable zone! The same calculation for Venus gives an expected equilibrium temperature of about -10°C, but in reality it is more like 450°C. What happened? Clouds' reflective qualities cool the planet and mean the habitable zone can be closer to a star Both these planets have greenhouse gases present in their atmospheres, warming the planet up and driving the outer boundary of the habitable zone further away from the star (while clouds drive the inner boundary closer to the star). The very latest habitable zone definitions use simulations of these cloud and greenhouse effects - widening and blurring the crude classical definition. UD linky

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,17:37    when i first heard of the Privileged Planet bs, i thought they might have something interesting. Then I learned that the sun/earth habitable zone is something like from 0.5 AU to 1.5 AU. so, ...not all that special.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,17:45    Quote 72 daveS       August 20, 2015 at 3:04 pm BA77, Affirming the consequent is not the same as assuming the conclusion.   Quote 73 bornagain77August 20, 2015 at 3:10 pm Whatever daveS. Darwinism is a evidence free, mathematical proof free, pseudo-science and I’m sure Darwinists, since they have no real empirical evidence to back up their grandiose claims, have used every logical fallacy in the book to try to support their preposterous theory. The Adventures of Fallacy Man – Existential Comics http://existentialcomics.com/comic......ic....9 The Adventures of Fallacy Man part II – Existential Comics [URL=http://existentialcomics.com/comic/21 Whatever, DaveS!   linky Edited by stevestory on Aug. 20 2015,18:47

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 20 2015,23:49    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 20 2015,15:45)   Quote 72 daveS       August 20, 2015 at 3:04 pm BA77, Affirming the consequent is not the same as assuming the conclusion.     Quote 73 bornagain77August 20, 2015 at 3:10 pm Whatever daveS. Darwinism is a evidence free, mathematical proof free, pseudo-science and I’m sure Darwinists, since they have no real empirical evidence to back up their grandiose claims, have used every logical fallacy in the book to try to support their preposterous theory. The Adventures of Fallacy Man – Existential Comics http://existentialcomics.com/comic......ic....9 The Adventures of Fallacy Man part II – Existential Comics [URL=http://existentialcomics.com/comic/21 Whatever, DaveS!  :p linky "All logical fallacies are equal in the sight of the LORD." - Argumenesis 1:1 -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2015,00:07    I doubt that BA77 ever committed any logical fallacy because that would have required at least some attempt to argue logical. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

rossum Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2015,04:04    Quote (Lethean @ Aug. 20 2015,16:21) It loaded ok for me earlier and I didn't see the link farm bit. It must be because I use NoScript (script blocker) and Ghostery so I didn't get bounced. My uneducated guess is someone gave it a hackey-poo (don't suppose Gene is very security minded and uses the same email he has pasted all over the site) and added a little script. Yes, there's an <iframe ...> added near the end of the page.  My pop-up blocker kills it.  When I turn off the blocker I get the link farm.  I suspect the Gene's HTML is not up to using <iframe ...> I suspect the short delay is while the browser processes all the MS garbage on the page before it reaches the spam insert. rossum -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

Cubist Posts: 558 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2015,05:12    Quote (Lethean @ Aug. 20 2015,16:21)   Quote (Cubist @ Aug. 20 2015,11:33)       Quote (CeilingCat @ Aug. 19 2015,23:16) Speaking of Time cube,  WWW.TIMECUBE.COM seems to have become some sort of link farm.  I forget who used to own it, but he made the UD crew look relatively sane and capable in comparison.  Anybody know what happened? Weird: I just visited timecube.com, and the site is visible in all its glory—for, like, maybe 5 seconds, after which the "link farm" stuff takes over the browser window. It loaded ok for me earlier and I didn't see the link farm bit. It must be because I use NoScript (script blocker) and Ghostery so I didn't get bounced. To test your theory, I visited timecube.com with my browser set to not run Javascript. The link-farm stuff didn't show. Visiting a second time, with Javascript active once again, yielded the link-farm crap. Conclusion: You're right, it's a Javascript thing. Quote My uneducated guess is someone gave it a hackey-poo (don't suppose Gene is very security minded and uses the same email he has pasted all over the site) and added a little script. [nods] Sounds about right to me.

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2015,10:28    Thank God, since an internet without Timecube would be like AtBC without Gary Gaulin. Saner, but somehow sadder for the lack of the intense struggle to bang out really bad ideas. Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2015,16:21    For 300 points and a trip to Hawaii, name this tune: Quote Axel, part of Zachriel’s depravity is that he is a damn liar.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2015,16:46    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 20 2015,16:37) when i first heard of the Privileged Planet bs, i thought they might have something interesting. Then I learned that the sun/earth habitable zone is something like from 0.5 AU to 1.5 AU. so, ...not all that special. Although it moves outward, slowly over the yellow-dwarf stage of our sun, taking tens (or more) of millions of years for this to become significant. (If I understand what I read about this a while ago.)

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2015,18:27    barry flails and bails you can read from there. Nickel summary: Barry: abortion is evil because it stops a beating human heart. MatSpirit: So it would be okay to kill ET since he isn't human? Barry (direct quote): "This is, of course, a deliberate lie on your part. I never said any such thing. I called your ET question a distraction and treated it with contempt. I did not answer it." MatSpirit: No, it was a perfectly fine question. Is it okay to kill ET? no human heart. Barry: You don't get it and I'm not answering your stupid questions. seriously. start reading at the link. I'm not exaggerating. Edited by stevestory on Aug. 21 2015,19:28

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 21 2015,20:44    Does that mean he draws the line at the week of development in which the heart starts beating?

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2015,01:48    I think BornAgain may have inadvertently posted a clue to his mental processes.  Check out the website.   Quote Why Don’t Psychopaths Believe in Dualism? The Role of Opposing Brain Networks Anthony Jack (Case Western Reserve University, Cognitive Science, Cleveland, OH In a theoretical paper linking the attribution of phenomenal consciousness to moral cognition, Robbins and Jack (Philosophical Studies, 2006) predicted that psychopaths would not perceive the problem of consciousness. New experimental evidence is presented which supports this claim: in a group of undergraduates it was found that support for a naturalistic view of the mind is positively correlated with the primary psychopathic trait of callousness. [URL=http://www.sonoran-sunsets.com/goinggreen.html I'm not making fun of the Battster,  by the way.  It just explains a lot.

Learned Hand Posts: 214 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2015,15:10    I think Zachriel broke Barry. He just can't come to terms with the fact that stamping his foot and shouting "Evil! Evil! Evil!" doesn't accomplish anything.

REC Posts: 638 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2015,15:28    Interesting that Barry's rants on abortion come in cycles: http://www.uncommondescent.com/?s=abor....bortion 2015: slew of posts during Republican Primary 2012: several posts 2010: posts coincide with Tea Party midterm election 2008-included this one: Quote BarryA Responds to DaveScot ... Obviously, I take for granted that abortion — the taking of an innocent human life — is immoral.  In the discussion thread I will not debate this topic, as it is beyond the scope of UD. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....vescott Edited by REC on Aug. 22 2015,15:29

Learned Hand Posts: 214 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2015,15:57    Hmmmm. He was involved in a GOP primary campaign last time around, wasn't he? I wonder if he's proving his pro-life bona fides to someone.

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2015,19:48    Just in case anyone has an interest in pointing something out about the picture used in Barry's "Barbarians Inside the Gate" post and the article linked to in "“Kinda cool” to Pull" post: Undercover Anti-Abortion Video Lesson here: Barry, you should really check your sources. -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2015,20:57    Quote (Amadan @ Aug. 20 2015,15:49) Quote (KevinB @ Aug. 20 2015,14:36) Is there an absolute stupid, like there's an absolute zero of temperature? Yes: It's when cerebral activity slows to a degree that removes all uncertainty - even Heisenberg's - from the mind of the subject. Technically, it's the point where Brownian Motion in the brain is entirely replaced by a brown motion. I used to think that there was am absolute limit to stupidity. But now I think that it is an infinite variable and most of the UD crew are deep into the negative values. Perhaps Joey can calculate the lowest value of stupid for us. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 22 2015,22:59    I spent quite a bit of time the 20th, and 21st of the month debunking twaddle from creationist home schooler Megan Fox. I noticed to my delight that D. O'bleary has weighed in on behalf of Ms. Fox. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 23 2015,02:56    Quote (Learned Hand @ Aug. 22 2015,15:57) Hmmmm. He was involved in a GOP primary campaign last time around, wasn't he? I wonder if he's proving his pro-life bona fides to someone. Hopefully to someone who's name is easy to spell. Geb Bush? Ted Cruise? Rand Pawl? -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 23 2015,09:24    Quote (Bob O'H @ Aug. 23 2015,02:56)   Quote (Learned Hand @ Aug. 22 2015,15:57) Hmmmm. He was involved in a GOP primary campaign last time around, wasn't he? I wonder if he's proving his pro-life bona fides to someone. Hopefully to someone who's name is easy to spell. Geb Bush? Ted Cruise? Rand Pawl? If Jeb Bush gets the nomination, Barry's in trouble since Jeb 's real name is John Ellis Bush. Possible campaign slogan: Put a John in the White House. or I'm sure I won't fuck up as bad as my brother.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 23 2015,11:18    Quote (Dr.GH @ Aug. 22 2015,23:59) I spent quite a bit of time the 20th, and 21st of the month debunking twaddle from creationist home schooler Megan Fox. I noticed to my delight that D. O'bleary has weighed in on behalf of Ms. Fox. O'Leary is as clueless as Fox. Wow.

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