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k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2012,07:53    Quote (Amadan @ May 10 2012,09:41) Quote (noncarborundum @ May 10 2012,04:58)   Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 08 2012,13:12)     Quote (Patrick @ May 08 2012,12:20) Off topic, but I'm really wondering why people on the Skeptical Zone keep leaving Joe links to pictures of bunnies.  Is there an Internet meme I missed during its five minutes of glory or are rabbits to Joe what clowns are to DaveScot? An internet meme proudly created by our very own Amadan: http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....y205448 And I better not be ninja'ed by him! Edited for spellography Not to step on Amadan's priority or anything, but when I first read his bunny post I wondered if he'd been influenced by this, which I had seen several days earlier and thought was absolutely wonderful. Guilty, M'Lud AH HAH A LAWYER. HOMO! -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2012,08:10    Quote (JLT @ May 10 2012,10:59) BarryA annoys the YECs at UD:     Quote No matter how long and hard you argue with a YEC proponent you will never convince him based on appeals to the evidence.  Yes, he has the same evidence that you do, but he interprets that evidence within a different interpretive framework.  You might think his interpretive framework is flawed, but you cannot say, as a matter of strict logic, that his interpretive framework must necessarily be flawed.  In other words, you must admit that as a matter of strict logic it is possible for light to be slower now than it was in the past.  And given the premise of some YECs that light is in fact slower now than it was in the past is, their conclusions might then follow.   He then proceeds to liken the poor YECs with the evil, evil TEs while simultanously criticising the TEs for ignoring the Bible.     Quote TEs are like YECs in this respect — they cling to a scientific view that runs counter to the obvious evidence because of their prior commitments. [...] Now notice the similarity between TEs and YECs:  Everyone concedes that the universe appears to be billions of years old; everyone concedes that living things appear to have been designed for a purpose.  YECs say the first appearance is an illusion.  TEs  say the second appearance is an illusion. [...] YECs reject the “obvious” conclusion about the age of the universe because of their prior commitments.  Why do TEs reject the “obvious” conclusion about the design of living things?  Further, why do TEs reject that obvious conclusion in the very teeth of the Biblical injunction to regard the appearance of design as proof of God’s existence (Romans 1). Too funny. They all seem to have given up on pretending it is all about science. Although Dembski is still trying:     Quote Theologically speaking, ID imposes few limits and is compatible with God acting at all levels of creation and through all modes of causation. When design is detected, God is active. And when design is not detected, God is still active. This doesn't make ID contentless. Rather, it means that ID is largely neutral with respect to one's doctrine of God, a fact that should not be surprising given that ID is compatible not only with Judeo-Christian theism but also with just about any religious view that regards purpose as basic to reality. ID's content is scientific, not religious or theological. Insofar as it has metaphysical implications, it is in challenging naturalism. LOL. YEP SPEAKERS CORNERS ANY SUNDAYS AFTERNOONS. HOMOS! Then they slink off with their footstool to the nearest greasy flea rag hostel. I like teh gentleman jim ones. Jerky hat, snakeskins, gold tooth and a knitted sweater. ID has got to be the new green human hydrogen bubble....erm energy squeeze Dr. Th. D  fart. Is there a Marine Biologist  Snake Oil Salesman in the house? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

JLT Posts: 740 Joined: Jan. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,03:11    More in-fighting! Tragic Mishap is unhappy with BarryA because:   Quote I would have to agree with butifnot and tjguy. Your description of YEC is horribly out-of-date. I suppose you still think YECs accept the vapor canopy theory of the Flood as well? So he commits the ultimate crime:   Quote   Quote I tried very hard to be respectful while disagreeing. So as long as you’re respectful it’s okay to have no clue what you’re talking about? Which is answered swiftly by BarryA:   Quote Tragic Mishap, you are warned. Tjguy wants to know the rules:   Quote Barry, Just out of curiosity, what are you warning Tragic for? His attitude? His posting a link? Are there rules I’m not familiar with? Thanks. tj Also, all science so far (StephenB):   Quote YEC has a different protocol. It begins with an analysis of God’s word and seeks to harmonize the data with it. Science, though, needs it own room to breathe. If science was simply the act of harmonizing the data to match God’s word, it would not have the power to confirm God’s word. On the other hand, if, with its protocol, science corroborates truths found in Scripture, which has a different protocol, that would be far more impressive. Indeed, that is the case. Truths provided by God through his Divine revelation are consistent with truths apprehended through God’s revelation in nature. Faith and reason are perfectly compatible. TEs do not believe this, to their discredit. Tragic Mishap:   Quote YECs are in the business of Truth. As such, we acknowledge that divine revelation constitutes the highest possible level of truth available. As such, science is flawed if it doesn’t match divine revelation. So the goal of a creation scientist is to match science to divine revelation to make science better. Tjguy doesn't really like ID:   Quote ID too has a framework through which it interprets the evidence. The ID framework is to accept the basic assumptions and conclusions of science that come out of a uniformitarian framework of interpretation – even if it contradicts the Bible. Then they take those conclusions and go back to the Bible and find a way to read long ages into it. This is a new interpretation of the Bible since Charles Lyell and friends began spreading the uniformitarian doctrine. It also gives priority to scientific conclusions over the historical record of the Bible concerning the flood, tower of Babel, and for some even Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden. You said that truths provide by God in the Bible are consistent with truths apprehended through nature. We agree that they should be and that is why we use the interpretive framework that we do. Using your framework, biblical truths and the “truths” of nature are not consistent. StephenB about bible exegesis:   Quote Obviously, we can safely discount anything that liberals pass along to us because we know that they distort the truth and turn it into a lie. Definitely sig worthy.   Quote You say that science is not inerrant and may produce error. Granted. Still, science sometimes gets it right (or comes close) and when it does, it will harmonize with Scripture properly interpreted, that is, Scripture understood as a faithful interpretation of what the author meant to convey. Ah, so that is the difference between YECs and IDists. YECs start with the bible and discard all science that disagrees with it. IDists start with the science and discard all science that disagrees with the bible. Obvious! TARD! -------------- "Random mutations, if they are truly random, will affect, and potentially damage, any aspect of the organism, [...] Thus, a realistic [computer] simulation [of evolution] would allow the program, OS, and hardware to be affected in a random fashion." GilDodgen, Frilly shirt owner

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,03:36    Gil reveals an amazing fact: (Linky leads to UD)   Quote When I was in elementary school back in the 1950s a man came into my classroom and talked to the teacher. I was taken into another room by this man. He gave me puzzles to figure out, and timed me with a stop watch. I thought that this was very weird. After these tests I was returned to my classmates with no explanation. Many years later, upon reflecting about and remembering this event, I asked my mom what this was all about. She told me that as a result of an IQ test I had taken (they did that back in those days) I had scored the highest IQ ever recorded in the local school system at my age level, and my parents were asked to give permission for further testing. Edited by Lou FCD on May 11 2012,09:09 -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

Febble Posts: 310 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,03:50    IQs are age-normed.

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,04:13    The inerrant mark of The Man Unjustly Denied Proper Recognition: citing one's IQ beyond the age of about 20. I don't approve of school bullies but I'm beginning to see a role for them in the greater scheme of things . . . -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,04:30    When I studied to become a teacher - a looong time ago - we were told to distrust IQ tests because children raised in a different (sub-)culture might be asked questions completely unrelated to their upbringing. Instead, they might have problem solving skills we don't even dream of. Edited to insert an "s". Edited by Kattarina98 on May 11 2012,04:31 -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,05:39    Quote (JLT @ May 11 2012,01:11) More in-fighting! Tragic Mishap is unhappy with BarryA because:   Quote I would have to agree with butifnot and tjguy. Your description of YEC is horribly out-of-date. I suppose you still think YECs accept the vapor canopy theory of the Flood as well? So he commits the ultimate crime:   Quote   Quote I tried very hard to be respectful while disagreeing. So as long as you’re respectful it’s okay to have no clue what you’re talking about? Which is answered swiftly by BarryA:   Quote Tragic Mishap, you are warned. Tjguy wants to know the rules:   Quote Barry, Just out of curiosity, what are you warning Tragic for? His attitude? His posting a link? Are there rules I’m not familiar with? Thanks. tj Also, all science so far (StephenB):   Quote YEC has a different protocol. It begins with an analysis of God’s word and seeks to harmonize the data with it. Science, though, needs it own room to breathe. If science was simply the act of harmonizing the data to match God’s word, it would not have the power to confirm God’s word. On the other hand, if, with its protocol, science corroborates truths found in Scripture, which has a different protocol, that would be far more impressive. Indeed, that is the case. Truths provided by God through his Divine revelation are consistent with truths apprehended through God’s revelation in nature. Faith and reason are perfectly compatible. TEs do not believe this, to their discredit. Tragic Mishap:   Quote YECs are in the business of Truth. As such, we acknowledge that divine revelation constitutes the highest possible level of truth available. As such, science is flawed if it doesn’t match divine revelation. So the goal of a creation scientist is to match science to divine revelation to make science better. Tjguy doesn't really like ID:   Quote ID too has a framework through which it interprets the evidence. The ID framework is to accept the basic assumptions and conclusions of science that come out of a uniformitarian framework of interpretation – even if it contradicts the Bible. Then they take those conclusions and go back to the Bible and find a way to read long ages into it. This is a new interpretation of the Bible since Charles Lyell and friends began spreading the uniformitarian doctrine. It also gives priority to scientific conclusions over the historical record of the Bible concerning the flood, tower of Babel, and for some even Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden. You said that truths provide by God in the Bible are consistent with truths apprehended through nature. We agree that they should be and that is why we use the interpretive framework that we do. Using your framework, biblical truths and the “truths” of nature are not consistent. StephenB about bible exegesis:   Quote Obviously, we can safely discount anything that liberals pass along to us because we know that they distort the truth and turn it into a lie. Definitely sig worthy.   Quote You say that science is not inerrant and may produce error. Granted. Still, science sometimes gets it right (or comes close) and when it does, it will harmonize with Scripture properly interpreted, that is, Scripture understood as a faithful interpretation of what the author meant to convey. Ah, so that is the difference between YECs and IDists. YECs start with the bible and discard all science that disagrees with it. IDists start with the science and discard all science that disagrees with the bible. Obvious! TARD! What a bunch of fucking loons. I doubt that they can tie their own shoelaces. They're probably not potty trained either. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,05:42    Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 11 2012,01:36) Gil reveals an amazing fact: (Linky leads to UD)   Quote When I was in elementary school back in the 1950s a man came into my classroom and talked to the teacher. I was taken into another room by this man. He gave me puzzles to figure out, and timed me with a stop watch. I thought that this was very weird. After these tests I was returned to my classmates with no explanation. Many years later, upon reflecting about and remembering this event, I asked my mom what this was all about. She told me that as a result of an IQ test I had taken (they did that back in those days) I had scored the highest IQ ever recorded in the local school system at my age level, and my parents were asked to give permission for further testing. POTW Is gildo's head expanding faster than the universe? -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,06:07    Gildo has always been desperately insecure about how he is perceived. See this archetypical post from 2005, the last paragraph in particular. The tragic fuck even provides links to prove he's not a complete fool.....

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,06:37    Quote (Woodbine @ May 11 2012,04:07) Gildo has always been desperately insecure about how he is perceived. See this archetypical post from 2005, the last paragraph in particular. The tragic fuck even provides links to prove he's not a complete fool..... :D I would absolutely love to play a game of chess, in person, with that bloviating gasbag. You're certainly right about his insecurity. I guess having a monstrous IQ (LOL) can't make up for having no balls. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,15:03    Quote (JohnW @ May 09 2012,11:30) I don't think any of us have ever provoked a Gordshite meltdown. Obama just did exactly that. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,15:24    Quote (sparc @ May 11 2012,13:03) Quote (JohnW @ May 09 2012,11:30) I don't think any of us have ever provoked a Gordshite meltdown. Obama just did exactly that. Nah, that's just the regularly-scheduled meltdown.  If it wasn't about Obama's announcement, it would have been about something else. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,15:37    Quote (sparc @ May 11 2012,16:03) Quote (JohnW @ May 09 2012,11:30) I don't think any of us have ever provoked a Gordshite meltdown. Obama just did exactly that. I fail to see how same-sex marriages affect my long ago failed hetero marriage. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,15:52    Quote (khan @ May 11 2012,15:37) I fail to see how same-sex marriages affect my long ago failed hetero marriage. It's not about cheapening any one marriage in particular, it's about cheapen marriage as a whole by allowing more people to experience the misery of failed marriage. See, if we let gays marry then by golly there can be more failed marriages! And conservatives and fundamentalists, being the good "Christians" they are, don't want teh gaz making divorce look bad...err...I mean, are really trying to save the gays from that! -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

NormOlsen Posts: 104 Joined: Nov. 2011 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,15:58    Quote (sparc @ May 11 2012,15:03)   Quote (JohnW @ May 09 2012,11:30) I don't think any of us have ever provoked a Gordshite meltdown. Obama just did exactly that. Heysoos Kristos!  If we ever need proof that there is no intelligent designer, but almost certainly a malevolent God, we have KF's brain.  Case closed.

NormOlsen Posts: 104 Joined: Nov. 2011 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,16:17    Quote (The whole truth @ May 11 2012,06:37)   Quote (Woodbine @ May 11 2012,04:07) Gildo has always been desperately insecure about how he is perceived. See this archetypical post from 2005, the last paragraph in particular. The tragic fuck even provides links to prove he's not a complete fool..... :D I would absolutely love to play a game of chess, in person, with that bloviating gasbag. You're certainly right about his insecurity. I guess having a monstrous IQ (LOL) can't make up for having no balls. He just can't stop talking about how super smart he is: IQ, Puzzle Solving, and Darwinism Quote Many years later, upon reflecting about and remembering this event, I asked my mom what this was all about. She told me that as a result of an IQ test I had taken (they did that back in those days) I had scored the highest IQ ever recorded in the local school system at my age level, and my parents were asked to give permission for further testing. Wow, Gil, tell us again about your checkers program!

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,16:31    Quote and my parents were asked to give permission for further testing. They did a personality test. It proved negative. Edited by Lou FCD on May 11 2012,18:42 -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,16:35    Quote (NormOlsen @ May 11 2012,17:17) Quote (The whole truth @ May 11 2012,06:37)     Quote (Woodbine @ May 11 2012,04:07) Gildo has always been desperately insecure about how he is perceived. See this archetypical post from 2005, the last paragraph in particular. The tragic fuck even provides links to prove he's not a complete fool..... :D I would absolutely love to play a game of chess, in person, with that bloviating gasbag. You're certainly right about his insecurity. I guess having a monstrous IQ (LOL) can't make up for having no balls. He just can't stop talking about how super smart he is: IQ, Puzzle Solving, and Darwinism   Quote Many years later, upon reflecting about and remembering this event, I asked my mom what this was all about. She told me that as a result of an IQ test I had taken (they did that back in those days) I had scored the highest IQ ever recorded in the local school system at my age level, and my parents were asked to give permission for further testing. Wow, Gil, tell us again about your checkers program! If we're comparing shit: 1540 on GRE, and a year of graduate stuff in Math. And ~20 years programming computers for USAF. But I can't play the piano and don't have a frilly shirt (mostly wear jeans and Tshirts). Get over yourself Frilly. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,16:49    Perhaps Gil would have had a happier life if he'd played the frilly shirt and worn the piano. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Timothy McDougald Posts: 1036 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,17:22    Gil Dodgen - first and only graduate* of the DaveScot School of Teh Genius! All teh rest were inuits and homos. -------------- Church burning ebola boy FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me. PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

MichaelJ Posts: 462 Joined: June 2009 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,17:38    Quote (Kattarina98 @ May 11 2012,19:30) When I studied to become a teacher - a looong time ago - we were told to distrust IQ tests because children raised in a different (sub-)culture might be asked questions completely unrelated to their upbringing. Instead, they might have problem solving skills we don't even dream of. Edited to insert an "s". I remember seeing a show that said that Inuits did badly because they would stop at an question they didn't know rather than go onto another question

NormOlsen Posts: 104 Joined: Nov. 2011 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,18:18    Apologies to Kattarina98, I didn't scroll back far enough to see that you had already (beautifully) covered Gil's latest fit of braggadocio.

JLT Posts: 740 Joined: Jan. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,18:30    Quote (sparc @ May 11 2012,21:03)     Quote (JohnW @ May 09 2012,11:30) I don't think any of us have ever provoked a Gordshite meltdown. Obama just did exactly that.     Quote And yes, the evil that is now upon us, homosexualisation of marriage and family -- thus, of community, education and law -- in defiance of the patent creation order, is the full moral equivalent of slavery. Quote Likewise, we should note the implication of "members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together."  It should be quite clear from reading between the lines that Mr Obama has long immersed himself in the ideology of the homosexualist activist sub-culture. Quote So, should the law now be perverted to pretend that marriage -- a key aspect of creation order for humanity (as the very complementarity of the sexes testifies) --  can be extended by human fiat to same sex unions, that will be what is taught in school, and what will be enforced by the police, by force of law. If you disagree, you will be deemed the moral equivalent of a racist bigot, and subjected to criminal prosecution. Indeed, eventually, you will be seen as a scapegoat for social ills. Quote And of course, that ugly issue will be twisted about to blame the victims of the persecution: fanatical bigots, wanting to turn the clock back, hating those who are different from themselves, etc etc.  Sadly, we have been down this sad and dangerous road to persecution before, and Stephen has had many who have followed in his shoes. Worse, even this will be twisted in hostile minds to say that there is a stubbornly hostile and probably insane persecution complex here KF's mind must be a dark and frightening place. "Insane" definitely was on the list of adjectives that I considered while reading that. Although I enjoyed the part about Obama being immersed in the "homosexualist activist sub-culture". As expected, it's all the fault of those evil scientists:     Quote Yes, the erosion of the moral fabric of our society traces to the imposition of evolutionary materialism in the name -- and under the false colours of  --"science." -------------- "Random mutations, if they are truly random, will affect, and potentially damage, any aspect of the organism, [...] Thus, a realistic [computer] simulation [of evolution] would allow the program, OS, and hardware to be affected in a random fashion." GilDodgen, Frilly shirt owner

Badger3k Posts: 861 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,18:56    Quote (khan @ May 11 2012,15:37) Quote (sparc @ May 11 2012,16:03) Quote (JohnW @ May 09 2012,11:30) I don't think any of us have ever provoked a Gordshite meltdown. Obama just did exactly that. I fail to see how same-sex marriages affect my long ago failed hetero marriage. It's like prayer (per Dembski, I think, although it may have been Behe) - same-sex marriage works backwards through time to affect all marriages. -------------- "Just think if every species had a different genetic code We would have to eat other humans to survive.." : Joe G

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,19:15    Quote (JLT @ May 11 2012,19:30) Quote (sparc @ May 11 2012,21:03)       Quote (JohnW @ May 09 2012,11:30) I don't think any of us have ever provoked a Gordshite meltdown. Obama just did exactly that.       Quote And yes, the evil that is now upon us, homosexualisation of marriage and family -- thus, of community, education and law -- in defiance of the patent creation order, is the full moral equivalent of slavery.   Quote Likewise, we should note the implication of "members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together."  It should be quite clear from reading between the lines that Mr Obama has long immersed himself in the ideology of the homosexualist activist sub-culture.   Quote So, should the law now be perverted to pretend that marriage -- a key aspect of creation order for humanity (as the very complementarity of the sexes testifies) --  can be extended by human fiat to same sex unions, that will be what is taught in school, and what will be enforced by the police, by force of law. If you disagree, you will be deemed the moral equivalent of a racist bigot, and subjected to criminal prosecution. Indeed, eventually, you will be seen as a scapegoat for social ills.   Quote And of course, that ugly issue will be twisted about to blame the victims of the persecution: fanatical bigots, wanting to turn the clock back, hating those who are different from themselves, etc etc.  Sadly, we have been down this sad and dangerous road to persecution before, and Stephen has had many who have followed in his shoes. Worse, even this will be twisted in hostile minds to say that there is a stubbornly hostile and probably insane persecution complex here KF's mind must be a dark and frightening place. "Insane" definitely was on the list of adjectives that I considered while reading that. Although I enjoyed the part about Obama being immersed in the "homosexualist activist sub-culture". As expected, it's all the fault of those evil scientists:       Quote Yes, the erosion of the moral fabric of our society traces to the imposition of evolutionary materialism in the name -- and under the false colours of  --"science." How the fuck can you guys read that shit? Seriously, that douchenozzle is so goddamned stupid he gives me a headache halfway through the first paragraph of every single one of his barely-contained masturbatory rants of self-loathing homosexuality. It's like peering into the tormented soul of some poor brain-dead sap chained in the lower levels of Dante's Inferno. And worse than all that, he's fucking boring on an epic scale. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

clamboy Posts: 299 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,22:10    Quote (JLT @ May 11 2012,18:30) Quote (sparc @ May 11 2012,21:03)       Quote (JohnW @ May 09 2012,11:30) I don't think any of us have ever provoked a Gordshite meltdown. Obama just did exactly that.       Quote And yes, the evil that is now upon us, homosexualisation of marriage and family -- thus, of community, education and law -- in defiance of the patent creation order, is the full moral equivalent of slavery.   Quote Likewise, we should note the implication of "members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together."  It should be quite clear from reading between the lines that Mr Obama has long immersed himself in the ideology of the homosexualist activist sub-culture.   Quote So, should the law now be perverted to pretend that marriage -- a key aspect of creation order for humanity (as the very complementarity of the sexes testifies) --  can be extended by human fiat to same sex unions, that will be what is taught in school, and what will be enforced by the police, by force of law. If you disagree, you will be deemed the moral equivalent of a racist bigot, and subjected to criminal prosecution. Indeed, eventually, you will be seen as a scapegoat for social ills.   Quote And of course, that ugly issue will be twisted about to blame the victims of the persecution: fanatical bigots, wanting to turn the clock back, hating those who are different from themselves, etc etc.  Sadly, we have been down this sad and dangerous road to persecution before, and Stephen has had many who have followed in his shoes. Worse, even this will be twisted in hostile minds to say that there is a stubbornly hostile and probably insane persecution complex here KF's mind must be a dark and frightening place. "Insane" definitely was on the list of adjectives that I considered while reading that. Although I enjoyed the part about Obama being immersed in the "homosexualist activist sub-culture". As expected, it's all the fault of those evil scientists:       Quote Yes, the erosion of the moral fabric of our society traces to the imposition of evolutionary materialism in the name -- and under the false colours of  --"science." Good lord n' butter, it's the monologue li'l Suzie recites to her friends in several Chick tracts!

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,22:41    Quote (khan @ May 11 2012,16:35)   Quote (NormOlsen @ May 11 2012,17:17)   Quote (The whole truth @ May 11 2012,06:37)       Quote (Woodbine @ May 11 2012,04:07) Gildo has always been desperately insecure about how he is perceived. See this archetypical post from 2005, the last paragraph in particular. The tragic fuck even provides links to prove he's not a complete fool..... :D I would absolutely love to play a game of chess, in person, with that bloviating gasbag. You're certainly right about his insecurity. I guess having a monstrous IQ (LOL) can't make up for having no balls. He just can't stop talking about how super smart he is: IQ, Puzzle Solving, and Darwinism     Quote Many years later, upon reflecting about and remembering this event, I asked my mom what this was all about. She told me that as a result of an IQ test I had taken (they did that back in those days) I had scored the highest IQ ever recorded in the local school system at my age level, and my parents were asked to give permission for further testing. Wow, Gil, tell us again about your checkers program! If we're comparing shit: 1540 on GRE, and a year of graduate stuff in Math. And ~20 years programming computers for USAF. But I can't play the piano and don't have a frilly shirt (mostly wear jeans and Tshirts). Get over yourself Frilly. Come the senior year in college, a lot of people from the dorm I'd been in took the GRE. After the results got mailed around, one of the women from the dorm cornered me after a biology lab and went on and on about her freaking amazing score on the test. She elaborated on how graduate schools would be fighting over her application and generally how a high GRE score was just the ticket to paradise everybody should want. I could have let her go on, said goodbye, and she would have been a happy camper. But no, I had to do something else. I asked her about a question in the math section, one that didn't appear to have the correct answer listed in the choices. She thought about it, then recalled which one she had picked as most likely. Then we had this exchange: Her: So you took the test, too. What score did you get? Me: [Score numbers] Her: I hate you. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,23:30    Quote (The whole truth @ May 11 2012,06:37)     Quote (Woodbine @ May 11 2012,04:07) Gildo has always been desperately insecure about how he is perceived. See this archetypical post from 2005, the last paragraph in particular. The tragic fuck even provides links to prove he's not a complete fool..... I would absolutely love to play a game of chess, in person, with that bloviating gasbag. You're certainly right about his insecurity. I guess having a monstrous IQ (LOL) can't make up for having no balls. Well, numero uno, that people do not buy it is not so perplexing, not since I spent time at NASM hearing parents misinterpret the exhibits for the kiddies and saying things like, "The plane's exhaust pushes the plane through the air." Simple concepts continue to elude the general pop in many sciences. But, more importantly, number two: I find, whilst skulking about new territories for IDists, such as the comments at Inside Higher Ed, etc., that they are no longer correcting those who mistake ID for theistic evolution (e.g., "God guided evolution" or "Well, I think God had something to do with it," etc.). Yes, this still goes on, and quite frequently, too, even years after Kitzmiller. They - and I do not know if this is Gil and Co. - are quick to correct anyone who says that ID is creationism, but comments that confuse ID with "I accept evolution but believe in God" are left to slide. Which is interesting, because theistic evolutionists are not acceptable to the UDudes. Interesting? Yes. An evolution of tactics? Probably. Perplexing? No. More like, desperate. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2012,23:35    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 11 2012,22:41) Come the senior year in college, a lot of people from the dorm I'd been in took the GRE. After the results got mailed around, one of the women from the dorm cornered me after a biology lab and went on and on about her freaking amazing score on the test. She elaborated on how graduate schools would be fighting over her application and generally how a high GRE score was just the ticket to paradise everybody should want. I could have let her go on, said goodbye, and she would have been a happy camper. But no, I had to do something else. I asked her about a question in the math section, one that didn't appear to have the correct answer listed in the choices. She thought about it, then recalled which one she had picked as most likely. Then we had this exchange: Her: So you took the test, too. What score did you get? Me: [Score numbers] Her: I hate you. You know Wes, there are employers that would *love* to have someone with your capabilities on board! -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

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