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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: July 27 2015,05:33   

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And this sentence is a thought forming: "When attract and avoid locations When working properly The combined When this happens It was found that to anxiously"

By no definition is that a sentence.

Now it is:

 
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Where the signals from attract and avoid locations combine: the wanting to go both towards and away from the food results in it becoming nervously anxious, skittish, as are real animals with such a dilemma.

It would be helpful if you could cite some animal studies to back up your assertions about animal behavior. It is probably not that germane to the fundamental problems of your project. However, it would be good practice for you in the art of grounding your theoretical principles in real-world data which is freely or affordably available to any investigator. As has been pointed out, a complex computer program, no matter how intriguing its behavior, is no substitute for a well-thought out expository paper laying out what is "under-the-hood" not just programmatically but conceptually. You have to speak for your project. It cannot speak for you.

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Jim_Wynne



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(Permalink) Posted: July 27 2015,08:49   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 26 2015,22:53)
Quote (Texas Teach @ July 26 2015,22:24)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 26 2015,21:43)
And this sentence is a thought forming: "When attract and avoid locations When working properly The combined When this happens It was found that to anxiously"

By no definition is that a sentence.

Now it is:

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Where the signals from attract and avoid locations combine: the wanting to go both towards and away from the food results in it becoming nervously anxious, skittish, as are real animals with such a dilemma.

Another sign of your fundamental failure to understand what you're trying to accomplish.  If this were science and not Gaulin real-science, there would be a footnote along with that poorly-constructed sentence providing reference to studies that show that the animal behavior you cite has been confirmed.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 27 2015,17:35   

Quote (paragwinn @ July 27 2015,05:33)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 26 2015,20:53)
 
Quote (Texas Teach @ July 26 2015,22:24)
   
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 26 2015,21:43)
And this sentence is a thought forming: "When attract and avoid locations When working properly The combined When this happens It was found that to anxiously"

By no definition is that a sentence.

Now it is:

   
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Where the signals from attract and avoid locations combine: the wanting to go both towards and away from the food results in it becoming nervously anxious, skittish, as are real animals with such a dilemma.

It would be helpful if you could cite some animal studies to back up your assertions about animal behavior. It is probably not that germane to the fundamental problems of your project. However, it would be good practice for you in the art of grounding your theoretical principles in real-world data which is freely or affordably available to any investigator. As has been pointed out, a complex computer program, no matter how intriguing its behavior, is no substitute for a well-thought out expository paper laying out what is "under-the-hood" not just programmatically but conceptually. You have to speak for your project. It cannot speak for you.

I tried the applicale keywords in Google Scholar but (unless you know of something applicable) from what I can see I'm not going to find anything overly useful.

The best example of what I am talking about is from watching my wife feed that backyard critters. She does not sit there quietly she's talking to them about how the weather will be that day while arms are moving and around her the squirrels could end up bonked on the head by a big peanut butter & cracker sandwich coming in for a landing. I'm in a way lucky to have had plenty of nervously anxious animals to observe where both attract and avoid stimuli is present at the same time in their environment, a dilemma. It simply would not be normal for a critter at the perimeter of my wife's shock zone (where food falls from the sky or rolling along the ground at them) to not be nervously anxious. The way I see it's the models that do not inherently get jittery that are not all there in regards to normal animal behavior and have more explaining to do.

It's maybe possible for my wife to help conduct an experiment that as closely as possible turns the back yard into a giant hidden shock zone arena but have to use something other than electricity to shock them or the experiment is a no-go. I do have a peizo siren that can be placed in the center, that might not bother the neighbors where the sound is radiated sideways in all directions and not louder than it needs to be. A motor could turn a cue-card or just pole over their head to indicate angular time. Just need an easy way to detect when a critter is inside the zone, then where her phone gets a good enough of a video from up in a tree and squirrel's willing we're all set.

Something simpler might also be possible. But other than a live wild animal experiment of my own I don't know what else I could include for evidence. A number of papers are referenced in program comments and includes the paper for the rat arena and related neurobiology, but not that that exactly. I can maybe ask someone in neuroscience but in this case none are yet sure how to most simply model how our brain navigates itself around. How close it is to real animal behavior and its biology depends on behavioral details the real thing has and lab papers yet to be written that would allow knowing for sure whether I have it right or not.

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Jim_Wynne



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(Permalink) Posted: July 27 2015,17:59   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 27 2015,17:35)
Quote (paragwinn @ July 27 2015,05:33)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 26 2015,20:53)
   
Quote (Texas Teach @ July 26 2015,22:24)
   
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 26 2015,21:43)
And this sentence is a thought forming: "When attract and avoid locations When working properly The combined When this happens It was found that to anxiously"

By no definition is that a sentence.

Now it is:

   
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Where the signals from attract and avoid locations combine: the wanting to go both towards and away from the food results in it becoming nervously anxious, skittish, as are real animals with such a dilemma.

It would be helpful if you could cite some animal studies to back up your assertions about animal behavior. It is probably not that germane to the fundamental problems of your project. However, it would be good practice for you in the art of grounding your theoretical principles in real-world data which is freely or affordably available to any investigator. As has been pointed out, a complex computer program, no matter how intriguing its behavior, is no substitute for a well-thought out expository paper laying out what is "under-the-hood" not just programmatically but conceptually. You have to speak for your project. It cannot speak for you.

I tried the applicale keywords in Google Scholar but (unless you know of something applicable) from what I can see I'm not going to find anything overly useful.

The best example of what I am talking about is from watching my wife feed that backyard critters. She does not sit there quietly she's talking to them about how the weather will be that day while arms are moving and around her the squirrels could end up bonked on the head by a big peanut butter & cracker sandwich coming in for a landing. I'm in a way lucky to have had plenty of nervously anxious animals to observe where both attract and avoid stimuli is present at the same time in their environment, a dilemma. It simply would not be normal for a critter at the perimeter of my wife's shock zone (where food falls from the sky or rolling along the ground at them) to not be nervously anxious. The way I see it's the models that do not inherently get jittery that are not all there in regards to normal animal behavior and have more explaining to do.

It's maybe possible for my wife to help conduct an experiment that as closely as possible turns the back yard into a giant hidden shock zone arena but have to use something other than electricity to shock them or the experiment is a no-go. I do have a peizo siren that can be placed in the center, that might not bother the neighbors where the sound is radiated sideways in all directions and not louder than it needs to be. A motor could turn a cue-card or just pole over their head to indicate angular time. Just need an easy way to detect when a critter is inside the zone, then where her phone gets a good enough of a video from up in a tree and squirrel's willing we're all set.

Something simpler might also be possible. But other than a live wild animal experiment of my own I don't know what else I could include for evidence. A number of papers are referenced in program comments and includes the paper for the rat arena and related neurobiology, but not that that exactly. I can maybe ask someone in neuroscience but in this case none are yet sure how to most simply model how our brain navigates itself around. How close it is to real animal behavior and its biology depends on behavioral details the real thing has and lab papers yet to be written that would allow knowing for sure whether I have it right or not.

So you have an ungrounded assertion, regardless of what you have personally observed in your backyard.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,04:23   

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So you have an ungrounded assertion, regardless of what you have personally observed in your backyard.

Well then too damned bad for you, you piece of shit.

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,05:36   

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So you have an ungrounded assertion, regardless of what you have personally observed in your backyard.

Well then too damned bad for you, you piece of shit.

No, too bad for you.
Your claims, your failures.
Your lack of evidence, your problem.  Not ours.

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,06:29   

And I said too bad for you because with the two papers in the Notes folder included with the IDLab5-Preliminary.zip file considered it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science. It's even getting the right ratio of concordant signaling pairs in the internal representation of the external world, the navigation network.

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,06:39   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 28 2015,07:29)
And I said too bad for you because with the two papers in the Notes folder included with the IDLab5-Preliminary.zip file considered it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science. It's even getting the right ratio of concordant signaling pairs in the internal representation of the external world, the navigation network.

That's not nearly as special as you think it is.
Glen Davidson put it best:
 
Quote (Glen Davidson @ July 25 2015,21:11)
It's pathetic not to have any meaningful results, isn't it?


You're just modeling a model which in turn models nothing.

Glen Davidson


You have no meaningful results because you are modeling a model that is at best fantasy entirely of your own construction.

You continue to exhibit the error of assuming that because you can mimic an observed behavior [leaving aside the painful fact that you have neither], therefore you have elucidated how the behavior is in actual fact caused.
That we can use calculus to model the ideal trajectory of an osprey to catch a fish does not mean that the osprey uses calculus.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,06:45   

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....it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science.


:D

  
Jim_Wynne



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,08:06   

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So you have an ungrounded assertion, regardless of what you have personally observed in your backyard.

Well then too damned bad for you, you piece of shit.

This is how claims are supported in real-science.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,10:43   

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....it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science.


:D

It's the only computer model of its kind.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,13:57   

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But other than a live wild animal experiment of my own I don't know what else I could include for evidence.


you should definitely do that, and film it, from multiple angles.

   
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,15:23   

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But other than a live wild animal experiment of my own I don't know what else I could include for evidence.


you should definitely do that, and film it, from multiple angles.

JoeG, and his shed full of ticks, are just up the road.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2015,18:35   

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....it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science.


:D

It's the only computer model of its kind.

Seriously?

After thinking about it, you're kinda right.

But two other levels of intelligence are represented by the Design and NavNet form, which control body morphology and cell network parameters including timing. Even where it's a form that lets you play Creator/God the other two levels of intelligence must somehow be represented for there to be the variables needed for a morphology to exist. Unless you create your own critter then save the settings to disk the program stays set to the default design I created.

Even though Natural Selection is not a variable: the multiple level model can still qualify as an Evolutionary Algorithm where "evolution" becomes operationally defined in a way that makes it a very intelligent process indeed. We can then say "Roll Over Darwinian Theory!" And I have just the right music and imagery to go with it:
Electric Light Orchestra - Roll Over Beethoven

In any even the only computer model of its kind is expected to antiquate the old ways of modeling living systems and their intelligence and Sal helped.


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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2015,01:58   

I just uploaded an update, same link.

This evening I had time to add the code to this and write the following from program comments:

Code Sample
Calculate Concordant Pairs at each Place in the Network.
For a biological example see "Dynamic Grouping of Hippocampal Neural Activity During Cognitive Control of Two Spatial Frames"
For the code below a "Concordant Pair" is two neighboring sectors between different places staying in time, one on other off.
Both signaling at the same time or not at all makes it a "Discordant Pair" that is not staying in proper time with the other.
In this model there is a "tendency for an excess of concordant cell pairs" of 60% when an information rich map is doing well.
When the program is first started the up to 82% concordance indicates that an attract location exists but no map information.
Much below 60% indicates that the network is having a hard time resolving useful information, it's then more often shocked.
What lowers concordance the most is having too much map information such as room avoids surrounding the attractor location.
At 60% is an ideal amount of map information and condant pairs for the network to solve the spatial logic problem given.
Click the Vector Option "0 and 1" to see readings for both frames/cycles, "1 only" is normally the greater of the two.
This cordance can be used to gauge confidence for another system that adds the cellular behavior that controls timing.
Outer two places in the network are not included in the total shown on the screen, only fully active center is used.
In the ID Lab-5 default cell behavior is set by the TrainBehaviorRAM subroutine below, runtime changed by Data list.
If the cell level behavior were included then that system would intelligently take care of all the tweaking, for us.
In biology the cell level behavior is from a millions of year old genetic level behavior system, which can be added.
The Design form stands in for what would be regulated by growth hormones and other factors influencing a morphology.


I at first thought the 82% reading was a problem until I noticed that 60% was where it went from doing great making a useful map, to getting worse in performance from too much being mapped. This is much more useful than where it started off and stayed just below 60% from propagation timing being right, like I first imagined. This was it can also control when and how many events get mapped, instead of everything in memory for that time frame always being recalled by the program. I was wondering where I could get that improvement from. Might have found it!

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2015,02:01   

was=way typo above. Rest looks good, I need some.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2015,06:35   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 28 2015,04:29)
And I said too bad for you because with the two papers in the Notes folder included with the IDLab5-Preliminary.zip file considered it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science. It's even getting the right ratio of concordant signaling pairs in the internal representation of the external world, the navigation network.

Your documentation is quite sparse. There is no description of the conceptual framework ( I'm assuming that framework involves different levels of intelligence?) on which your project is based. There is no explanation as to how the papers included in your Notes folder are relevant to your framework or program. The Theory of Operation document needs clarification in several areas. Your Charts have no label for the Y-axis. I have not run the program since I am on a Linux system presently but you do not provide much detail in what to expect or how the program components reflect aspects of your conceptual framework. Much work needs to be done.

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ChemiCat



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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2015,09:50   

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Much work needs to be done


No paraqwinn, the only "work" that needs doing is "delete all". Simples.

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2015,11:03   

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Quote (Woodbine @ July 28 2015,04:45)
     
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....it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science.


:D

It's the only computer model of its kind.

Seriously?

After thinking about it, you're kinda right.

But two other levels of intelligence are represented by the Design and NavNet form, which control body morphology and cell network parameters including timing. Even where it's a form that lets you play Creator/God the other two levels of intelligence must somehow be represented for there to be the variables needed for a morphology to exist. Unless you create your own critter then save the settings to disk the program stays set to the default design I created.

Even though Natural Selection is not a variable: the multiple level model can still qualify as an Evolutionary Algorithm where "evolution" becomes operationally defined in a way that makes it a very intelligent process indeed. We can then say "Roll Over Darwinian Theory!" And I have just the right music and imagery to go with it:
Electric Light Orchestra - Roll Over Beethoven

In any even the only computer model of its kind is expected to antiquate the old ways of modeling living systems and their intelligence and Sal helped.

And another point goes sailing over Gary's head.

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2015,11:55   

Gary's difficulties may stem from having paid too much attention to the old saw "For every problem there is a solution -- a simple, elegant solution that is also wrong."
What he seems to have taken on board is that if his "theory" is neither simple nor elegant, it perforce cannot be wrong.
Sadly, it is all 3.  Complicated, although not particularly complex, inelegant to the point of incoherence, and wrong throughout.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2015,23:12   

Quote (paragwinn @ July 29 2015,06:35)
Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 28 2015,04:29)
And I said too bad for you because with the two papers in the Notes folder included with the IDLab5-Preliminary.zip file considered it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science. It's even getting the right ratio of concordant signaling pairs in the internal representation of the external world, the navigation network.

Your documentation is quite sparse. There is no description of the conceptual framework ( I'm assuming that framework involves different levels of intelligence?) on which your project is based. There is no explanation as to how the papers included in your Notes folder are relevant to your framework or program. The Theory of Operation document needs clarification in several areas. Your Charts have no label for the Y-axis. I have not run the program since I am on a Linux system presently but you do not provide much detail in what to expect or how the program components reflect aspects of your conceptual framework. Much work needs to be done.

Yes I have more work than I will ever live long enough to finish or can afford. I'm regularly punished for that.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 29 2015,23:23   

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Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 28 2015,04:29)
And I said too bad for you because with the two papers in the Notes folder included with the IDLab5-Preliminary.zip file considered it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science. It's even getting the right ratio of concordant signaling pairs in the internal representation of the external world, the navigation network.

Your documentation is quite sparse. There is no description of the conceptual framework ( I'm assuming that framework involves different levels of intelligence?) on which your project is based. There is no explanation as to how the papers included in your Notes folder are relevant to your framework or program. The Theory of Operation document needs clarification in several areas. Your Charts have no label for the Y-axis. I have not run the program since I am on a Linux system presently but you do not provide much detail in what to expect or how the program components reflect aspects of your conceptual framework. Much work needs to be done.

Yes I have more work than I will ever live long enough to finish or can afford. I'm regularly punished for that.

Remind us how you've been punished, please.  It wasn't keeping you from putting your ideas all over the Internet. Apparently you haven't been locked up.  Are the bad men there with you right now?  Give us a signal, and we'll call for help.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 31 2015,21:19   

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And I said too bad for you because with the two papers in the Notes folder included with the IDLab5-Preliminary.zip file considered it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science. It's even getting the right ratio of concordant signaling pairs in the internal representation of the external world, the navigation network.

Your documentation is quite sparse. There is no description of the conceptual framework ( I'm assuming that framework involves different levels of intelligence?) on which your project is based. There is no explanation as to how the papers included in your Notes folder are relevant to your framework or program. The Theory of Operation document needs clarification in several areas. Your Charts have no label for the Y-axis. I have not run the program since I am on a Linux system presently but you do not provide much detail in what to expect or how the program components reflect aspects of your conceptual framework. Much work needs to be done.

Yes I have more work than I will ever live long enough to finish or can afford. I'm regularly punished for that.

Remind us how you've been punished, please.  It wasn't keeping you from putting your ideas all over the Internet. Apparently you haven't been locked up.  Are the bad men there with you right now?  Give us a signal, and we'll call for help.

The punishment comes from annoying critics like you who need evidence galore in a science field where there are a number of theories for how hippocampal areas of the brain work, which I doubt you would on your own even care about and with my busy day job for a couple hundred dollars a week I don't have time or resources to explain all I know about them to you. In any event US public school teachers are mandated to use their best educated professional scientific judgment in regards to cognitive models that are around, not be a vigilante against something just because it's ID friendly.

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ChemiCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2015,06:47   

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The punishment comes from annoying critics like you who need evidence galore in a science field......


Our mistake Gaulin, we thought that science needed evidence. Your "Real-without- evidence science" had us all fooled.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2015,10:46   

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And I said too bad for you because with the two papers in the Notes folder included with the IDLab5-Preliminary.zip file considered it's now the most supported computer model of its kind in all of science. It's even getting the right ratio of concordant signaling pairs in the internal representation of the external world, the navigation network.

Your documentation is quite sparse. There is no description of the conceptual framework ( I'm assuming that framework involves different levels of intelligence?) on which your project is based. There is no explanation as to how the papers included in your Notes folder are relevant to your framework or program. The Theory of Operation document needs clarification in several areas. Your Charts have no label for the Y-axis. I have not run the program since I am on a Linux system presently but you do not provide much detail in what to expect or how the program components reflect aspects of your conceptual framework. Much work needs to be done.

Yes I have more work than I will ever live long enough to finish or can afford. I'm regularly punished for that.

Remind us how you've been punished, please.  It wasn't keeping you from putting your ideas all over the Internet. Apparently you haven't been locked up.  Are the bad men there with you right now?  Give us a signal, and we'll call for help.

The punishment comes from annoying critics like you who need evidence galore in a science field where there are a number of theories for how hippocampal areas of the brain work, which I doubt you would on your own even care about and with my busy day job for a couple hundred dollars a week I don't have time or resources to explain all I know about them to you. In any event US public school teachers are mandated to use their best educated professional scientific judgment in regards to cognitive models that are around, not be a vigilante against something just because it's ID friendly.

Let's see ..... 40 hours work for $200 is $5 per hour right? Gee Gary can't you make more money cleaning cars or something INSTEAD OF CRYING ON TEH INNERNETS? ....oh I get it you are crying here for free

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NoName



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2015,11:17   

It's  pretty funny watching Gary complain that being held to the same standards as everyone else amounts to 'punishment'.

But it's even funnier to hear him whine that being worthless has to be worth something.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2015,16:11   

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The punishment comes from annoying critics like you who need evidence galore in a science field......


Our mistake Gaulin, we thought that science needed evidence. Your "Real-without- evidence science" had us all fooled.

The problem is from those who need more evidence than exists in all of science and are themselves unable to present evidence of their own that needs to be accounted for in the theory.

The theory already accounts for all evidence I know of that exists in all of science. It's not my fault you have nothing scientifically relevant to add.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2015,16:46   

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The theory already accounts for all evidence I know of that exists in all of science.

wow.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2015,17:13   

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Quote (GaryGaulin @ Aug. 01 2015,17:11)
The theory already accounts for all evidence I know of that exists in all of science.

wow.

And the only thing you need to do (for me to have to take you seriously) is provide scientific evidence indicating that something relevant cannot be accounted for by the model.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 01 2015,17:35   

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Quote (GaryGaulin @ Aug. 01 2015,17:11)
The theory already accounts for all evidence I know of that exists in all of science.

wow.

And the only thing you need to do (for me to have to take you seriously) is provide scientific evidence indicating that something relevant cannot be accounted for by the model.

Nothing relevant can be accounted for by your software nor by your "theory".  You've run away from every challenge raised.  At this point your bluster is almost as laughable as your "theory".

  
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