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Jake Posts: 50 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,09:00    Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ May 08 2007,07:42) For some reason I think there might still be some trolls left unpurged over there.  Will the last loki please turn out the lights on your way out? Oh yeah, definitely. I reckon the Loki trolls currently outnumber the actual posters by a considerable margin. Im not going to name names, but there is just too much irony in some posts there for them to be from genuine posters.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,09:09    Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ May 07 2007,22:41) Quote (phonon @ May 07 2007,18:42) He also says that Judeo-Christianity (wtf IS that anyway) also leads to a free society. Sounds like he and Skeptic read the same books. Alas, Judeo-Christianity actually led to the Divine Right of Kings, which no one but an idiot could describe as "a free society".  Indeed, democracy itself was introduced, in the US and in France, by anticlerical secularists who specifically and deliberately excluded any religious test for government, or any government involvement with religion. I doubt that Tard can explain that away any more than Skeptic can. Does anyone actually practice "Judeo-Christianity"? Is that basically DaveTard's religion? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,09:18    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 08 2007,17:09) Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ May 07 2007,22:41)   Quote (phonon @ May 07 2007,18:42) He also says that Judeo-Christianity (wtf IS that anyway) also leads to a free society. Sounds like he and Skeptic read the same books. Alas, Judeo-Christianity actually led to the Divine Right of Kings, which no one but an idiot could describe as "a free society".  Indeed, democracy itself was introduced, in the US and in France, by anticlerical secularists who specifically and deliberately excluded any religious test for government, or any government involvement with religion. I doubt that Tard can explain that away any more than Skeptic can. Does anyone actually practice "Judeo-Christianity"? Is that basically DaveTard's religion? Religion? I thought DT's Religion was mammon and heat(gunzandmoney), mammon CO2 wingnut warming designers god (Enron on a cross). -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,09:24    Quote I chose non-denominational Protestantism. It makes a great working basis for civil and productive society, the overhead is minimal (ask to be saved and you are saved), I was saved as a child so there’s nothing more that needs doing (once saved always saved), it’s a common religion where I live so its easy to fit in, and so there’s really no downside unless some other religion is right but I don’t have enough evidence to make that determination. Pascal’s Wager to the letter. Okay, DT chose his religion based on a) it's easy, b) it's a way to be like everyone else and c) he's afraid he might go to hell otherwise, even tho he's not really convinced of it. Is this kind of childish belief system and attitude really something to brag about? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,09:30    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 08 2007,17:24) Quote I chose non-denominational Protestantism. It makes a great working basis for civil and productive society, the overhead is minimal (ask to be saved and you are saved), I was saved as a child so there’s nothing more that needs doing (once saved always saved), it’s a common religion where I live so its easy to fit in, and so there’s really no downside unless some other religion is right but I don’t have enough evidence to make that determination. Pascal’s Wager to the letter. Okay, DT chose his religion based on a) it's easy, b) it's a way to be like everyone else and c) he's afraid he might go to hell otherwise, even tho he's not really convinced of it. Is this kind of childish belief system and attitude really something to brag about? From where he comes that counts as a suicide for 72 virgins. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,09:38    Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ May 08 2007,07:42) Truly, the real ID action is now over at Overwhelmingignorance.crap, where a blog post entitled Has This Site Gone Extinct? gets a snappy response in only 13 days, resulting in a fast-paced conversation that so far has flooded the intartubes with 5 total posts over an eyeblink-like 27 days. Hilariously, they conclude that the fetid moribundity of their site has resulted from the recent efforts to ban trolls--while lamenting that they cannot compose a Trolls' Greatest Hits list to whip up enthusiasm for the site, because "unfortunately, unless the data was backed up all those troll posts were zapped."  Hmmm...... "Man, our site would be doing better, if only we hadn't banned all the people who were posting on the site just to mock it, and if only we could recover their deleted comments so there would be something here worth reading." For some reason I think there might still be some trolls left unpurged over there.  Will the last loki please turn out the lights on your way out? Wow.  It's been almost 6 days since someone last posted!  I think they must be going for the 40 days and nights thing... Overwhelming Evidence indeed! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,10:39    ALRIGHT SHUT UP AND LISTEN CUASE I'M TALKING. RICHARD *DORK*INGS (HAR HAR) SAYS THAT OUR JEANS ARE SELFISH AND WE DO WHAT THEY TELL US. WELL GUESS WHAT, DORKINGS? MY JEANS ARE MADE BY LEO STRAUSS: THEY ARE DESIGNED NOT MADE BY BLIND SHEER DUMB LUCK CHANCE AKA NOT DESIGN. ITS DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT IS TRUE. ENGONRANCE IS BLISS, WOULDN'T YOU RATHER BE HAPPY THAN RIGHT? MANKINDS PROBLEMS BASICALLY BEGAN WHEN IT EATED THE FRUIT OF KNOWLEDGE FROM TEH DESIGNERS GREEN-HOUSE. IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT THE DESIGNER DOESNT LIKE ITS BEING SECOND GUESSED. HE GAVE YOU THE FRIGGIN MANUAL AND IT MAKES FOR A GOOD SOCIETY. WELL, TEH THE TWO TOWERS BIT DOES. THE FELLOWSHIP OF TEH RING BIT IS A BIT HARSH. ONLY MOROMONITES HAVE A RETURN OF THE KING. IF AN ENTITY IS GOOD FOR HUMANITY IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THEY ARE IMAGEINARY. DO YOU NO WHY YOU LOT GOT CHRISTMAS PRESSIES LAST YEAR? BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T ON SANTAS LIST OF 'BEAN GOOD'. SAME THING APPLIES TO THE DESIGNER. HOMOS. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,11:01    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 08 2007,09:09) Does anyone actually practice "Judeo-Christianity"? Is that basically DaveTard's religion? Dave's thing is Judo-Christianity. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Chris Hyland Posts: 705 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,13:27    Quote the elongation required much more than simple quantitative changes: new features were required, for example, to handle the much higher blood pressure required by the long neck. And of course it's inconcievable that there was a point when the features that handle higher blood pressure were advantageous but not nessecary for survival, and intelligent design makes so much more sense.

franky172 Posts: 160 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,13:28    http://scienceblogs.com/dispatc....sty.php Sal is now attempting to get out of his lie over at Ed Brayton's blog....

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,13:30    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 08 2007,05:31) Why DS believes what he believes:   Quote I chose non-denominational Protestantism. It makes a great working basis for civil and productive society, the overhead is minimal (ask to be saved and you are saved), I was saved as a child so there’s nothing more that needs doing (once saved always saved), it’s a common religion where I live so its easy to fit in, and so there’s really no downside unless some other religion is right but I don’t have enough evidence to make that determination. Pascal’s Wager to the letter. What a Tard. Link Are any christian deities impressed by lazy, cynical beliefs?

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,13:55    Why doesn't he just create his own faith, "Tardism" or some-such? That was he can pick rules and social norms he likes without actually having to believe or engage in any form of intellectual honesty. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,14:43    Quote I chose non-denominational Protestantism. It makes a great working basis for civil and productive society, the overhead is minimal (ask to be saved and you are saved), I was saved as a child so there’s nothing more that needs doing (once saved always saved), it’s a common religion where I live so its easy to fit in, and so there’s really no downside unless some other religion is right but I don’t have enough evidence to make that determination. Pascal’s Wager to the letter. Last I heard, Christians weren't supposed to be proud of being motivated by Pascal's Wager. The more I think about this, the more amazed I am. DT's version of Christianity is the ultimate form of degraded postmodern American Protestantism: "I chose this religion because I like the politics that come with it, it doesn't require any time or energy, and because it's what my neighbors are all doing. Plus, I got saved as a kid so I don't have to do anything from now on. Besides, I'm only doing this to keep out of hell, which I don't really believe in, but hey, better safe than sorry, eh?" I'd be curious to hear what Heddle thinks about Dave's, uh, 'testimonial'.   Quote Why doesn't he just create his own faith, "Tardism" or some-such? Too late. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,15:09    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 08 2007,14:43)     Quote Why doesn't he just create his own faith, "Tardism" or some-such? Too late. DaveScot doesn't want to start up his own religion. IMO he's too lazy, and self-centered, plus he's already an Accolyte in the First Church Of ID, whose believers are known as Dembski-ites, or IDiots.   He can exercise his storm-tropper mentality as a Moderator/ blog-banner, yet, when teh ID thing finally blow up, he can hope that he is far enough away from Dembski not to get splattered when the fecal matter hits the fan.   So, rather than founding a First Tard Unification Church, tard will have to suffice as the #1 sacrament of the Dembski-ite. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,15:19    Quote It has always been my contention that DT holds to ID, "frontloading," yes, that fits with much of his commentary shortly after his online exchanges with Davison. also fits with his arguments with Davison a couple years back about frontloading (since Davison's PEH isn't about frontloading, but Dave thought it was). OTOH, you rarely see him argue explicitly for frontloading much any more; maybe he just thinks it too obvious to comment on?  Or is there some conflict with the IDeologues' mantra that makes them curtail discussion of frontloading I've missed? ...and my interest in knowing the answer is fading.... fading.... gone. Quote DT's version of Christianity is the ultimate form of degraded postmodern American Protestantism I think you really nailed that one. the "who really gives a shit" church of america. Dave's not religious, just bored. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,15:30    Quote (J-Dog @ May 08 2007,15:09)   Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 08 2007,14:43)       Quote Why doesn't he just create his own faith, "Tardism" or some-such? Too late. DaveScot doesn't want to start up his own religion. Actually, my point was merely that Dave long ago formed his own faith of 'tardism', if by that you mean a worldview entirely consisting of his own egomania. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,15:34    Quote (Ichthyic @ May 08 2007,15:19) Dave's not religious, just bored. Dave, JAD, and LifeEngineer (from ARN) have convinced me to never retire.  Not that I would necessarily fall into the same abyss as them, but you never know. -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,15:47    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 08 2007,15:30) Quote (J-Dog @ May 08 2007,15:09)   Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 08 2007,14:43)         Quote Why doesn't he just create his own faith, "Tardism" or some-such? Too late. DaveScot doesn't want to start up his own religion. Actually, my point was merely that Dave long ago formed his own faith of 'tardism', if by that you mean a worldview entirely consisting of his own egomania. Yes, I see what you mean.  There is no god but DaveScot, and DaveScot is his prophet. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,16:22    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ May 08 2007,09:09)   Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ May 07 2007,22:41)     Quote (phonon @ May 07 2007,18:42) He also says that Judeo-Christianity (wtf IS that anyway) also leads to a free society. Sounds like he and Skeptic read the same books. Alas, Judeo-Christianity actually led to the Divine Right of Kings, which no one but an idiot could describe as "a free society".  Indeed, democracy itself was introduced, in the US and in France, by anticlerical secularists who specifically and deliberately excluded any religious test for government, or any government involvement with religion. I doubt that Tard can explain that away any more than Skeptic can. Does anyone actually practice "Judeo-Christianity"? Is that basically DaveTard's religion? Maybe it's the recent converts from Jews for Jesus?   Quote One of the most important Jewish principles of faith is the belief in one God and one God only with no partnership of any kind (see Devarim 6:4), and belief in Jesus as deity, son of God, or Christ, is held as incompatible with Judaism. ... According to a common belief in Judaism, these "indications" are based on mistranslations and Jesus did not fulfill the qualifications for Jewish Messiah. The vision of God as a trinity is seen by Judaism as a deviation from monotheism and therefore is rejected. ... "[a] note about Jews for Jesus, Messianic Jews, Hebrew Christians, and similar groups: Jews in these groups who have converted to Christianity but continue to observe various Jewish practices are no longer considered part of the Jewish community in the usual sense." Maybe they celebrate Hanukkah AND Christmas. Lucky kids. http://snltranscripts.jt.org/89/89iharry.phtml "On Moische! On Herschel! On Schlomo! It's Hanukkah Harry 8 nights a year! On Moische! On Herschel! On Schlomo! Means that Hanukkah Harry is here! Delivering Toys to Jewish girls and Jewish boys We dance the horah around the menorah 'Cuz Hanukkah Harry is Here!" -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,16:39    DaveScot is a tard prophet:   Quote Is it supposed to “help” in some manner? I thought going where the evidence leads is just something that intellectually honest people do as a matter of course whether where it leads helps or not. Or you could go where the lack of evidence leads. Isn't that what ID is all about?   Quote Sometimes the evidence leads to a brick wall that cannot be seen over, around, or through. That’s just the way cookie crumbles. And that's where ID comes in.   Quote I don’t disbelieve in the big bang or black holes just because they end in just such a brick wall. If intelligent design by an unidentified and possibly unidentifiable designer is the best explanation for certain phenomena then that’s just the way it is. Especially if the "evidence" for intelligent design is a lack (or not) of evidence for non-intelligent design.   Quote Not knowing what’s inside black holes, what’s beyond the edge of the observable universe, or what came before the big bang are things I can’t change. I’m not so certain I can’t know the immediate origin of life on earth, one way or another. So I'll just defer to my default position, which is that some quite intelligent guy poofed it there. Better safe than sorry, right? Freudian slip?   Quote Different religions and philosophers have different views of gods, but what they all agree upon for some cause to be “god” is that it is personal, and creator. So green cockroach, giant old bearded man, a being with lion head and hore body, or whatever. These have nothing at all to do with my argument. Someone spends too much time at the zoo. And I've never heard of sex tourism to Botswana. Borne is his tardentity   Quote markf: “Because there is no evidence for this thing and it doesn’t solve any of the problems that bewilder me.” What you really mean is, “there is no evidence I wish to acknowledge”. You yourself are evidence. IS that what they mean by self evident? JT75 didn't think it through   Quote Let’s put the discussion in terms of being and existence. You are saying that the universe began existing without any cause for its beginning to be. Can this be held as a consistent view of causality? Of course just replace the word "universe" with "god" and you get the same result. And no, JT, no one is saying it didn't have a cause, they are just saying they don't know what it was. You should listen to your prophet's sermon about brick walls a few posts up. -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,17:46    READY, FIRE, AIM! http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-120498 Quote Make up some small stickers that read “Pseudo” (using a personal computer & printer with mailing labels would be cheap & easy) and place them in front of “Science”. No need to let slightly flawed signs go to waste when the correction is so easy!   So instead of Quote “Intelligent Design: War on Science” you'd replace 6 characters with "Pseudo” presumably leaving the space after, for: Quote "Intelligent Design: Pseudo Science” Please, no-one buy Dave any fireworks or sharp things. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

C.J.O'Brien Posts: 395 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,18:01    I was born a sharp thing, Spews. I know where to put teh stickers: that's what I auto-diddled for Michael Dell on his desktop. Homo. -dt -------------- The is the beauty of being me- anything that any man does I can understand. --Joe G

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,19:00    DT has an update on the wonder drug DCA. Here we can learn, among other insights, about some of the side-effects of DCA. Quote Reversible peripheral neuropathy (tingling in the extremities that goes away after ceasing DCA) is reported by a few people taking higher dosages (25mg/kg) after several weeks. Managing blood pH so it stays neutral to alkaline seems to be a key for both making DCA more effectacious against cancer and eliminating the reversable neuropathy. DCA is an acid and tends to lower blood pH. The myelin sheath around nerves is compromised by the high acid level. Managing diet by eating high alkaline foods or supplementation with things like milk of magnesia and monitoring blood pH through inexpensive home testing of urine and saliva seems to be working. But if you go to the literature (cited on the same site that DT extols), you find a slightly different story. Most alarming is that all of the patients in a clinical trial of DCA who were given a dose of 25 mg/day had to be taken off the drug due to neurological symptoms. You find that the alleged effect of DCA on myelin is only seen in vitro at doses of 1-20 mM (which would be difficult to achieve in a live human). You note that the studies involving effects of DCA in vitro also involved adjusting the pH of the medium so that it was not acidic. You wonder how much DCA would have to be ingested to change your blood pH; it seems likely that the dose would be lethal. You wonder why folks bother to consult those educated physicians, when they can find excellent medical help online from an ex-Marine whose alleged high IQ doesn't seem to kick in when it comes to basic chemistry or biology... -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,19:27    Good Job, FtK! http://www.uncommondescent.com/biology/dca-update-ii/#comment-120503 Quote 1 Forthekids 05/08/2007 7:17 pm This is seriously OT, and probably won’t make it through moderation, but I’m going to throw it out there anyway because I want to know… How does everyone here feel about ‘separation of church and state’? I roam various forums and am *forever* being told that the DI and ID supporters want to do away with the SOCAS due to The Wedge. Truth be told, there are a few sentences in the Wedge that could be construed to that affect. So, what are the opinions about the SOCAS from those who frequent this site? Please be honest and elaborate… Dave, I apologize for this OT comment. You’ll probably delete it, and that’s fine. Just thought I’d give it a shot. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,21:06    The link is to a site that makes Overwhelming Evidence look like a hotbed of blogging activism. WARNING:  Ignore the crazed-looking eyes, and focus on the jam-packed schedule... no wonder it's so hard to focus on new research.  At least Kristine is not here to see how low "He" has sunk... http://www.designinference.com/ -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,21:12    Quote (Richardthughes @ May 08 2007,19:27) Good Job, FtK! http://www.uncommondescent.com/biology/dca-update-ii/#comment-120503 Quote 1 Forthekids 05/08/2007 7:17 pm This is seriously OT, and probably won’t make it through moderation, but I’m going to throw it out there anyway because I want to know… How does everyone here feel about ‘separation of church and state’? I roam various forums and am *forever* being told that the DI and ID supporters want to do away with the SOCAS due to The Wedge. Truth be told, there are a few sentences in the Wedge that could be construed to that affect. So, what are the opinions about the SOCAS from those who frequent this site? Please be honest and elaborate… Dave, I apologize for this OT comment. You’ll probably delete it, and that’s fine. Just thought I’d give it a shot. FTK - Way To Go!  I am damned proud of you!   Excellent start!   Keep it up, and we will all (well most!) be glad to help with follow-up questions, but I think you will do fine, if you keep an open mind, and don't let your little ID / DI buddies get away with dodging. You Go Girl! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,21:43    Quote (J-Dog @ May 08 2007,21:12) 7:17 pm This is seriously OT, and probably won’t make it through moderation, but I’m going to throw it out there anyway because I want to know… How does everyone here feel about ‘separation of church and state’? I roam various forums and am *forever* being told that the DI and ID supporters want to do away with the SOCAS due to The Wedge. Truth be told, there are a few sentences in the Wedge that could be construed to that affect. So, what are the opinions about the SOCAS from those who frequent this site? Please be honest and elaborate… Dave, I apologize for this OT comment. You’ll probably delete it, and that’s fine. Just thought I’d give it a shot. Notice, though, that FTK did NOT take my advice and simply ask the simple question -- instead, she baited the hook to try and hear what she wanted to hear. She should have taken my advice and just asked the simple question, without any extras, and let the chips fall where they may. But I think deep down inside, she already KNEW what she would hear --- and she doesn't want to hear it. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2007,23:07    Quote (J-Dog @ May 08 2007,21:12) Quote (Richardthughes @ May 08 2007,19:27) Good Job, FtK! http://www.uncommondescent.com/biology/dca-update-ii/#comment-120503   Quote 1 Forthekids 05/08/2007 7:17 pm This is seriously OT, and probably won’t make it through moderation, but I’m going to throw it out there anyway because I want to know… How does everyone here feel about ‘separation of church and state’? I roam various forums and am *forever* being told that the DI and ID supporters want to do away with the SOCAS due to The Wedge. Truth be told, there are a few sentences in the Wedge that could be construed to that affect. So, what are the opinions about the SOCAS from those who frequent this site? Please be honest and elaborate… Dave, I apologize for this OT comment. You’ll probably delete it, and that’s fine. Just thought I’d give it a shot. FTK - Way To Go!  I am damned proud of you!   Excellent start!   Keep it up, and we will all (well most!) be glad to help with follow-up questions, but I think you will do fine, if you keep an open mind, and don't let your little ID / DI buddies get away with dodging. You Go Girl! OH NOES FTK - THE SERVER GLITCHED YOUR POST AWAY! It was a good one. I am *very* proud of you. You'll be a sternberging elboa shimmy-nazi in no time. Ps - don't forget to burn a church. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 09 2007,00:19    Richard rejoice!  The Server is your friend.  Trust the Server: http://www.uncommondescent.com/religio....d-state FTK's post was only removed so that it didn't spoil the full weight of Tardiness. Bob -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 09 2007,00:20    Fair play to DaveScot - he's given it a post, although the wedgie content has gone.. for the time being. http://www.uncommondescent.com/religio....d-state -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

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