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Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2015,13:45    Re "Where in biology do rooms have shocks?" Why, in the room with the electric eels, obviously!

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2015,14:16    Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2015,13:45) Re "Where in biology do rooms have shocks?" Why, in the room with the electric eels, obviously! :p And in a volcanic arena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....dSF4eck -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2015,14:19    Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2015,11:45) Re "Where in biology do rooms have shocks?" Why, in the room with the electric eels, obviously! :p To be fair to Gary, he did say Quote I have to (as is in biology) reduce the number that are active at the same time. ... which I assume means he'll be reducing the number to zero.  As in biology. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2015,20:20    Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 04 2015,14:16) Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2015,13:45) Re "Where in biology do rooms have shocks?" Why, in the room with the electric eels, obviously! :p And in a volcanic arena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....dSF4eck What does lava have to do with anything you've been discussing?

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2015,21:57    -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2015,22:24    Quote (N.Wells @ July 04 2015,20:20) Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 04 2015,14:16) Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2015,13:45) Re "Where in biology do rooms have shocks?" Why, in the room with the electric eels, obviously! :p And in a volcanic arena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....dSF4eck What does lava have to do with anything you've been discussing? Just like rocks, the only Gary's ideas will go anywhere is if you melt them down. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2015,23:42    Shy Grass -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 05 2015,01:58    Quote (Texas Teach @ July 05 2015,06:24) Quote (N.Wells @ July 04 2015,20:20) Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 04 2015,14:16)   Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2015,13:45) Re "Where in biology do rooms have shocks?" Why, in the room with the electric eels, obviously! :p And in a volcanic arena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....dSF4eck What does lava have to do with anything you've been discussing? Just like rocks, the only Gary's ideas will go anywhere is if you melt them down. Like vapor ware going up in smoke Gary's code can't even be given away. If it was any use hackers would use it to hijack church bank accounts. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 05 2015,17:23    Quote (JohnW @ July 04 2015,14:19) Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2015,11:45) Re "Where in biology do rooms have shocks?" Why, in the room with the electric eels, obviously! :p To be fair to Gary, he did say   Quote I have to (as is in biology) reduce the number that are active at the same time. ... which I assume means he'll be reducing the number to zero.  As in biology. Maybe it might help to mention that I was talking about reducing the number of room preferring place cells that are active at the same time? Earlier today I uploaded another update, which shows its "mind going blank" when the signal from the attract location is overpowered by being surrounded by too many locations signaling to avoid them. To see this happen: uncheck the "Center Barrier" checkbox and check the "Rotating Zone". What I read in science papers suggests that there should not be 100% coverage of an area with the signal from any one type of place cell. It's something needing to be added to the model or else the software normally turns all avoid cells on at the same time, which is analogous to having a perfect photographic memory that can recall all the memories of what happened in a region of space with many places, in a single (fraction of a second) thought. It's possible that the model is now demonstrating what information overload looks like. In one way it has the memory recall of a superhuman genius, but too much information all at once is causing a problem in the network that maps and "sorts it out" into a useful response. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 05 2015,18:57    Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 06 2015,01:23) Quote (JohnW @ July 04 2015,14:19)   Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2015,11:45) Re "Where in biology do rooms have shocks?" Why, in the room with the electric eels, obviously! :p To be fair to Gary, he did say     Quote I have to (as is in biology) reduce the number that are active at the same time. ... which I assume means he'll be reducing the number to zero.  As in biology. Maybe it might help to mention that I was talking about reducing the number of room preferring place cells that are active at the same time? Earlier today I uploaded another update, which shows its "mind going blank" when the signal from the attract location is overpowered by being surrounded by too many locations signaling to avoid them. To see this happen: uncheck the "Center Barrier" checkbox and check the "Rotating Zone". What I read in science papers suggests that there should not be 100% coverage of an area with the signal from any one type of place cell. It's something needing to be added to the model or else the software normally turns all avoid cells on at the same time, which is analogous to having a perfect photographic memory that can recall all the memories of what happened in a region of space with many places, in a single (fraction of a second) thought. It's possible that the model is now demonstrating what information overload looks like. In one way it has the memory recall of a superhuman genius, but too much information all at once is causing a problem in the network that maps and "sorts it out" into a useful response. See a shrink Gary you're delusional. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2015,00:35    I just updated the preliminary again, same url. Controls should now be error free, or I hope so anyway. IDLab5-Preliminary.zip This time the program starts up with the invisible rotating shock zone turned on. Other than the occasional problem from all locations around the food/attractor becoming a place to avoid it's doing rather well. Passes the test of inherently getting out of the way then anxiously waiting behind the shock zone for the food to be in the clear. It's not something I could program in, it has to be a property of how the network propagates waves or will not happen. Ironically one way to solve the problem without losing detail is to map in more than one grid size (resolution), as does a mammal brain. So it's possible that the navigation network already more or less does what it is supposed to do, even though it would still benefit from a more prioritized memory recall. What I have right now is good enough to show that the idea works. Almost there! -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

ChemiCat Posts: 532 Joined: Nov. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2015,08:54    Quote Ironically one way to solve the problem without losing detail is to map in more than one grid size (resolution), as does a mammal brain. Are you now claiming to be "modelling" mammals instead of bugs? I don't think so. This is yet another example of why you are not doing science. Another question you will avoid; how many cells make up an insects "brain"?

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2015,17:21    Quote (ChemiCat @ July 07 2015,08:54)   Quote Ironically one way to solve the problem without losing detail is to map in more than one grid size (resolution), as does a mammal brain. Are you now claiming to be "modelling" mammals instead of bugs? I don't think so. This is yet another example of why you are not doing science. Another question you will avoid; how many cells make up an insects "brain"?   Quote (ChemiCat @ July 07 2015,08:54) Another question you will avoid; how many cells make up an insects "brain"? Wikipedia - List of animals by number of neurons -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

Jim_Wynne Posts: 1208 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2015,20:47    Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 07 2015,17:21) Quote (ChemiCat @ July 07 2015,08:54)   Quote Ironically one way to solve the problem without losing detail is to map in more than one grid size (resolution), as does a mammal brain. Are you now claiming to be "modelling" mammals instead of bugs? I don't think so. This is yet another example of why you are not doing science. Another question you will avoid; how many cells make up an insects "brain"?   Quote (ChemiCat @ July 07 2015,08:54) Another question you will avoid; how many cells make up an insects "brain"? Wikipedia - List of animals by number of neurons Gary continues to demonstrate that using Wikipedia as an authoritative source is a defining characteristic of real-science. -------------- Evolution is not about laws but about randomness on happanchance.--Robert Byers, at PT

dazz Posts: 247 Joined: Mar. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2015,00:37    Quote (ChemiCat @ July 07 2015,08:54) [quote] Another question you will avoid; how many cells make up an insects "brain"? It obviously depends on the insect's available virtual address space. A 32 bit bus fruit fly has up to 4G brain cells. I can't believe how biology illiterate some of you are around here. Haven't you learned anything from future Nobel award GG Gaulin? smfh

ChemiCat Posts: 532 Joined: Nov. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2015,04:34    Quote It obviously depends on the insect's available virtual address space. A 32 bit bus fruit fly has up to 4G brain cells. I'm shocked that I didn't work this out! Wait! Does that mean I don't get breakfast?

dazz Posts: 247 Joined: Mar. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2015,05:19    Quote (ChemiCat @ July 08 2015,04:34) Quote It obviously depends on the insect's available virtual address space. A 32 bit bus fruit fly has up to 4G brain cells. I'm shocked that I didn't work this out! Wait! Does that mean I don't get breakfast? Only the allmighty Gaulin can say if you can go grab a byte :p

dazz Posts: 247 Joined: Mar. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2015,05:31    Quote (ChemiCat @ July 07 2015,08:54) Are you now claiming to be "modelling" mammals instead of bugs? GG's buggy bug just digivolved into a pokemon mammal. What an amazing time we live in to witness such amazing discoveries.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2015,07:59    Quote (dazz @ July 08 2015,13:31) Quote (ChemiCat @ July 07 2015,08:54) Are you now claiming to be "modelling" mammals instead of bugs? GG's buggy bug just digivolved into a pokemon mammal. What an amazing time we live in to witness such amazing discoveries. phhhtttt. Gobshite Gopher's gopher isn't a mammal it's a Middle Aged Man Masquerading As Learned (MAMMAL) -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

jeffox Posts: 671 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2015,11:44    Ya ya, and maybe BUG is Beyond Understanding Gaulin.  My 2c. Whatta hoot!

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2015,11:51    Quote (jeffox @ July 08 2015,09:44) Ya ya, and maybe BUG is Beyond Understanding Gaulin.  My 2c. Whatta hoot!  :)  :)  :) Superior Intelligent Life-Like Insect, Built Up by Gary Gaulin, Expert Researcher.   SILLIBUGGER. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

dazz Posts: 247 Joined: Mar. 2015 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2015,12:22    Hahahaha, that's hilarious guys :D

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2015,05:45    Here is some exciting news relating to biological RAM, from Sal Cordova! http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....p....p=28378 -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2015,06:59    Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 12 2015,06:45) Here is some exciting news relating to biological RAM, from Sal Cordova! http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....p....p=28378 Two sets of two-word phrases that never belong together -- 'exciting news' and 'Sal Cordova'. Look, Gary, we already know that it is a badly stretched analogy to compare biological memory to RAM. The further into the details one gets, the more the analogy breaks down. But then again, this only the tip of the iceberg of ignorance and fatuous bloviating that makes up your pretense at an intellectual life.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2015,11:51    Quote One thing the ENCODE consortium drove home is that DNA acts like a Dynamic Random Access memory for methylation marks. That is to say, even though the DNA sequence isn’t changed, like computer RAM which isn’t physically removed, it’s electronic state can be modified. At least Sal is staying current, in what's now going on in science. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2015,12:01    Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 12 2015,12:51) Quote One thing the ENCODE consortium drove home is that DNA acts like a Dynamic Random Access memory for methylation marks. That is to say, even though the DNA sequence isn’t changed, like computer RAM which isn’t physically removed, it’s electronic state can be modified. At least Sal is staying current, in what's now going on in science. False to fact. As is the implication that you are likewise 'staying current'. Unless you mean the flow of electricity you waste with your time on the web. Note that it doesn't take 'current science' to refute your nonsense.  Studies done in the 1920's pretty thoroughly refute, on an evidential basis, any modeling of biological memory as a form of RAM. These studies have not been meaningfully superseded; still less have they been refuted.  Evidence tends to be like that.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2015,16:22    Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 12 2015,06:45) Here is some exciting news relating to biological RAM, from Sal Cordova! http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....p....p=28378 first comment on that site: Quote Steve Schaffner on July 11, 2015 at 6:52 pm said: This conjecture seems wholly divorced from any known biological mechanisms. There is no analogue in biology for an operating system’s ability to access arbitrary sites in memory by address; all regulatory systems involving DNA ultimately depend on features of the DNA sequence itself. Quite a lot is known about many regulatory pathways, including developmental pathways, and none of them involve the kind of mechanism proposed here. Your suggestion appears to invoke an unknown process to explain nothing in particular. Moreover, under this proposal, the specific sequence of repetitive DNA is critically important, since it only functions if it’s identical to other elements. But most repetitive DNA shows no signs of selective constraint, as would be the case if this were true. I don’t see any justification for taking this idea seriously.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2015,17:52    Quote (stevestory @ July 12 2015,16:22) Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 12 2015,06:45) Here is some exciting news relating to biological RAM, from Sal Cordova! http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....p....p=28378 first comment on that site: Quote Steve Schaffner on July 11, 2015 at 6:52 pm said: This conjecture seems wholly divorced from any known biological mechanisms. There is no analogue in biology for an operating system’s ability to access arbitrary sites in memory by address; all regulatory systems involving DNA ultimately depend on features of the DNA sequence itself. Quite a lot is known about many regulatory pathways, including developmental pathways, and none of them involve the kind of mechanism proposed here. Your suggestion appears to invoke an unknown process to explain nothing in particular. Moreover, under this proposal, the specific sequence of repetitive DNA is critically important, since it only functions if it’s identical to other elements. But most repetitive DNA shows no signs of selective constraint, as would be the case if this were true. I don’t see any justification for taking this idea seriously. Ignorance is bliss. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

Jim_Wynne Posts: 1208 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2015,17:53    Quote (stevestory @ July 12 2015,16:22) Quote (GaryGaulin @ July 12 2015,06:45) Here is some exciting news relating to biological RAM, from Sal Cordova! http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....p....p=28378 first comment on that site: Quote Steve Schaffner on July 11, 2015 at 6:52 pm said: This conjecture seems wholly divorced from any known biological mechanisms. There is no analogue in biology for an operating system’s ability to access arbitrary sites in memory by address; all regulatory systems involving DNA ultimately depend on features of the DNA sequence itself. Quite a lot is known about many regulatory pathways, including developmental pathways, and none of them involve the kind of mechanism proposed here. Your suggestion appears to invoke an unknown process to explain nothing in particular. Moreover, under this proposal, the specific sequence of repetitive DNA is critically important, since it only functions if it’s identical to other elements. But most repetitive DNA shows no signs of selective constraint, as would be the case if this were true. I don’t see any justification for taking this idea seriously. HaHa, GG's stuff in a nutshell: "Your suggestion appears to invoke an unknown process to explain nothing in particular." -------------- Evolution is not about laws but about randomness on happanchance.--Robert Byers, at PT

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: July 12 2015,18:33    I need to go back to not bothering with the assholes in this forum. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

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