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midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,17:29    This is more fun than Gary's thread. Less whining. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,17:37    Yet two brands of equivalent kookery. -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,17:54    I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,18:05    Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,14:56) Quote (Arctodus23 @ Jan. 02 2014,14:49) This is a thread to discuss how the Earth's 100 million years old, and life originated millions of years after the Earths creation. As well as call everyone a Damned evolutionist, according to Martinez. Let the shit flow! Are we acquainted from some other discussion web site like Talk.Origins? If so, what was your name over there? Take a guess. -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

Ray Martinez Posts: 24 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,19:22    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis.

Ray Martinez Posts: 24 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,19:24    Quote (Arctodus23 @ Jan. 06 2014,18:05)   Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,14:56)   Quote (Arctodus23 @ Jan. 02 2014,14:49) This is a thread to discuss how the Earth's 100 million years old, and life originated millions of years after the Earths creation. As well as call everyone a Damned evolutionist, according to Martinez. Let the shit flow! Are we acquainted from some other discussion web site like Talk.Origins? If so, what was your name over there? Take a guess. I literally have no idea. That's why I'm asking.

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,19:44    Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. There, fixed it for you. -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,19:46    Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. Citation please. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

timothya Posts: 280 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,20:31    I thought the eel migration thing was taken as evidence for continental drift. -------------- "In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread." Anatole France

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,20:38    Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. Umm... wouldn't migratory birds that landed in the middle of the fucking Atlantic Ocean just bloody die? Don't you hate it when logic interrupts your pretty story. Tell us again how species never, ever change... and let's talk about Lenski's work. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,20:38    Quote (timothya @ Jan. 06 2014,20:31) I thought the eel migration thing was taken as evidence for continental drift. Yeah, they drifted right to the bottom.  Checkmate, Darwinists! -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,20:43    Ray, tell us about the book again. Can you show us a draft? -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,22:15    I'm confused. Did coconuts originate in Atlantis, and how would the eels carry them? -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,22:23    Quote Simple "refutations' to a useful paradigm accomplish nothing until a more useful, scientifically productive model comes along. Yup. As long as a concept gives a useful approximation, it continues to be used - just look how Newton's laws are used whenever the result of a calculation can be assumed to be within the margin of error for the purpose of that calculation. Henry

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2014,22:35    Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 06 2014,22:15) I'm confused. Did coconuts originate in Atlantis, and how would the eels carry them? They could grip by the husk. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Quack Posts: 1961 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,06:46    Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. Saragossa or Sargasso? Doesn't look like you've done much research. -------------- Rocks have no biology.               Robert Byers.

gnome de net Posts: 8 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,09:56    Quote (Quack @ Jan. 07 2014,06:46) Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. Saragossa or Sargasso? Doesn't look like you've done much research. The Saragossa Sea was discovered during his extensive research; its [not it's] secret location will be one of the many revelations in his forthcoming book, doncha know?

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,11:56    Quote (gnome de net @ Jan. 07 2014,07:56) Quote (Quack @ Jan. 07 2014,06:46)   Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. Saragossa or Sargasso? Doesn't look like you've done much research. The Saragossa Sea was discovered during his extensive research; its [not it's] secret location will be one of the many revelations in his forthcoming book, doncha know? Finally, a testable ID prediction: Spain is under water. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,12:41    I wonder if that's Ray's original error or if we could trace the source of his BS to somewhere.... -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,15:53    Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 07 2014,12:41) I wonder if that's Ray's original error or if we could trace the source of his BS to somewhere.... As far as I can trace it back is '05, to his t.o. writings. -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

gnome de net Posts: 8 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,16:02    The earliest Google search result is Jul 17, 1996.  Since it's frequently the misappellation of the Sargasso Sea, [due to the more-familiar English spelling of the Spanish city Zaragoza?], the error probably has a long history predating the internet.

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,16:21    Quote (gnome de net @ Jan. 07 2014,16:02) The earliest Google search result is Jul 17, 1996.  Since it's frequently the misappellation of the Sargasso Sea, [due to the more-familiar English spelling of the Spanish city Zaragoza?], the error probably has a long history predating the internet. I would like to see the page to which (not the Google search result, but the page) you refer. Is it any cre-evo site he's trolling? -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

Ray Martinez Posts: 24 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,17:26    Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 06 2014,20:38)     Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. Umm... wouldn't migratory birds that landed in the middle of the fucking Atlantic Ocean just bloody die? Yes, that's the point; these flew to where they thought land existed (Atlantis) because it did exist; that's why they flew there. And I misspelled "Sargasso." If all you guys can nail me for is a misspelling then it's time you hit the road and log off.

Ray Martinez Posts: 24 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,17:29    Quote (Quack @ Jan. 07 2014,06:46)   Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Saragossa Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. Saragossa or Sargasso? Doesn't look like you've done much research. Unlike evolution, for example, I've never claimed to have done any research in this area.

Ray Martinez Posts: 24 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,17:32    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,19:46)   Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:22)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 06 2014,17:54) I wanna hear more about these eels that prove Atlantis! There's evidence not only of eels but migratory birds that head for a location in the Sargasso Sea. Since no land exists at this location some have theorized that land did exist at said location: the land of Atlantis. Citation please. MIGHT be here (I don't really know): http://www.amazon.com/Atlanti....9207420

Ray Martinez Posts: 24 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,17:34    Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,19:24)   Quote (Arctodus23 @ Jan. 06 2014,18:05)     Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 06 2014,14:56)       Quote (Arctodus23 @ Jan. 02 2014,14:49) This is a thread to discuss how the Earth's 100 million years old, and life originated millions of years after the Earths creation. As well as call everyone a Damned evolutionist, according to Martinez. Let the shit flow! Are we acquainted from some other discussion web site like Talk.Origins? If so, what was your name over there? Take a guess. I literally have no idea. That's why I'm asking. Still waiting....

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,17:41    http://etb-darwin.blogspot.com/2012....ry.html Hey, Ray, look at this! -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

Ray Martinez Posts: 24 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,17:58    Quote (Arctodus23 @ Jan. 07 2014,17:41) http://etb-darwin.blogspot.com/2012.......ry.html Hey, Ray, look at this! So what's the main point(s), Eddie?

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,18:01    Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 07 2014,17:58) Quote (Arctodus23 @ Jan. 07 2014,17:41) http://etb-darwin.blogspot.com/2012.......ry.html Hey, Ray, look at this! So what's the main point(s), Eddie? Just to let you know, I`m not Eddie. Does ****0**9 sound familiar.\? -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

Arctodus23 Posts: 322 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2014,18:03    Quote (Ray Martinez @ Jan. 07 2014,17:58) Quote (Arctodus23 @ Jan. 07 2014,17:41) http://etb-darwin.blogspot.com/2012.......ry.html Hey, Ray, look at this! So what's the main point(s), Eddie? Just to let you know, I`m not Eddie. Does ****0**9 sound familiar? -------------- "At our church’s funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL "So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

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