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Paul Flocken Posts: 290 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,12:13    Quote ASaltyDog: “Sorry, no neutral nor common ground here either. I don’t believe there are any natural laws governing tree growth. I do believe God makes trees grow. How do you know there are natural laws governing tree growth?” What would he say if you told him he was a pantheist? -------------- "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.  Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."-John F. Kennedy

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,12:15    I'm sure it would be an excruciatingly long tangential reply, or a glib chewbacca defense. I've considered posting that entire thread over here.  I've wondered a few times if I'm not arguing with the Grand Wizard of Presuppositional Tard and Obfuscation Himself, Alvin P.   Paul have you been reading all of it? -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

dhogaza Posts: 525 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,12:30    Asaltydog - slang for penis - has just gotta be a fun-loving trolling sockpuppet, no?

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,12:33    if so then he sure is a wordy bastard. i tend to think he is probably the real deal.  he knows that ridiculous argument in and out.  the bit about stealing the ideas from your neighbor (referencing the notion of an observable 'real' universe) was a bit over the top.  i wouldn't be able to type all of that b.s. with a straight face.  if i were sockpuppeting, i'd be going the other direction. but.... which one of you guys is ASaltyDog? please tell. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Paul Flocken Posts: 290 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2008,07:16    I tried to get through it, but about a third of the way I realized I had something a great deal more interesting to take care of (my cat had used his box and I needed to clean it).  I doubt recreating the entire thread here would make it anymore palatable an entree. -------------- "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.  Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."-John F. Kennedy

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2008,08:12    Quote I doubt recreating the entire thread here would make it anymore palatable an entree. No it sure wouldn't.  But what a fine example of tard.  The kind you can help. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,08:18    The ever-reliable tardmeister DS opines that it is not true that the US is falling behind in science literacy.   Quote Piffle! The notion that science literacy in the U.S. is substandard is rooted in the results of science surveys that include questions about evolution... So in those surveys they give the “incorrect” answer to questions about the origin of life. And the commenters tard it up pretty well too... linky -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 10 2008,08:40    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Feb. 10 2008,08:18) The ever-reliable tardmeister DS opines that it is not true that the US is falling behind in science literacy.     Quote Piffle! The notion that science literacy in the U.S. is substandard is rooted in the results of science surveys that include questions about evolution... So in those surveys they give the “incorrect” answer to questions about the origin of life. And the commenters tard it up pretty well too... linky Sweet Baby Jesus. Dave's been on a roll lately.... That one's a classic. -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2008,21:50    Anyone been here before? Sweet Baby Jesus with a poop diaper, there is some good stuff in'ar. Two words:  Loma Linda. Oh yeah. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Nomad Posts: 311 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,01:38    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Feb. 11 2008,21:50) Anyone been here before? Sweet Baby Jesus with a poop diaper, there is some good stuff in'ar. Nothing like seeing a collection of tired old apologetics thrown together on one web site, tied together with nuggets of brown like this: Quote Most scientists choose to assume the views held by the majority of their colleagues in the scientific community. I choose instead to assume that the Bible is a good tool for determining what has happened in the past. I do this because of my relationship with Jesus Christ He must be on to something, though.  Whenever I read stuff like that I'm compelled to invoke the name Jesus Christ.  That must prove his point.

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,10:39    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Feb. 11 2008,21:50) Anyone been here before? Sweet Baby Jesus with a poop diaper, there is some good stuff in'ar. Two words:  Loma Linda. Oh yeah. Hundreds of pages, each containing thousands of words, all of which can be summed up with, "The Bible said it, I believe it, that settles it!" Good find. -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

rhmc Posts: 340 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,19:07    my personal favorite: "I agree with DaveScot, how has Darwinian Evolution helped in developing the transistor (or semi-conductor technology), for that matter, how has it done anything in terms of technological advances before or after that?..." pretty funny stuff.

Paul Flocken Posts: 290 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,21:12    Not strictly idc'ism: I just googled for the phrase 'oil is fungible'.  As I started typing, the toolbar returned the first possible completed phrase--'oil is not a fossil fuel'.  This piqued my curiosity enough to click on it and lo I found some marvelous tard I had not encountered previously.  I am not a wingnut connoisseur, so I don't know how long this @$$hattery has been going on but they put this out only last week. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59991 The marvelous tard in particular?  The great discovery that hydrocarbons are not ORGANIC!!! Quote The abiotic theory of the origin of oil directly challenges the conventional scientific theory that hydrocarbons are organic in nature, -------------- "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie--deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.  Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."-John F. Kennedy

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2008,21:58    Quote (Paul Flocken @ Feb. 12 2008,21:12) Not strictly idc'ism: I just googled for the phrase 'oil is fungible'.  As I started typing, the toolbar returned the first possible completed phrase--'oil is not a fossil fuel'.  This piqued my curiosity enough to click on it and lo I found some marvelous tard I had not encountered previously.  I am not a wingnut connoisseur, so I don't know how long this @$$hattery has been going on but they put this out only last week. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59991 The marvelous tard in particular?  The great discovery that hydrocarbons are not ORGANIC!!!   Quote The abiotic theory of the origin of oil directly challenges the conventional scientific theory that hydrocarbons are organic in nature, If you want to mine more Tard from the abiotic oil woo, check out the customer reviews for Black Gold Stranglehold. Apparently, the authors of the book use "zillions" as an actual mathematical number. -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,12:24    I was tarding around on Frequently Axed But Never Satisfactorily Developed into an Ontological Argument CreationWiki page.... Quote Biological distribution Why is there the present distribution of animals and plants in the world? How is it that marsupials are restricted to Australia and nearby islands and the Americas, monotremes to Australia, and few placental mammals are native to Australia? Why are tomatoes and potatoes native to the Americas only? (This is not a question merely of how they could have arrived there, it is also of why only there.) Answer: Natural selection, which creationists accept as a selective, not a creative process. The other areas, for one reason or another, had proved unsuitable for the organisms to survive. What an answer.  I will now accept that on tests.  Fuck biogeography, all we need is nature selected it so and creationists accept that in this case. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,19:00    Pharyngula featured this gem the other day: Quote Really do you believe both human eyes evolved with 3d focusing... at the same time- TWO SIMULTANEOUS randomly formed eyes? The evolution theory is even more weird as each male AND female 'randomly' developed the same two type eyes, That's four SIMULTANEOUS randomly formed eyes, dual random simulataneousness/duplicated! ...not to mention the probability of his evolving the ability to type without the need for a brain. -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

keiths Posts: 2195 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,20:03    Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Feb. 11 2008,21:50) Anyone been here before? Sweet Baby Jesus with a poop diaper, there is some good stuff in'ar. Two words:  Loma Linda. Oh yeah. Here Mikey explains how God banished the demons that were making him afraid of flying:   Quote But what could I do? I was in the plane, holding on, with people all around. If I started speaking out I was sure I would find myself in the funny farm for sure. What I eventually decided to do was to pray to God quietly in my mind. So I bowed my head and closed my eyes and started talking to God. I apologized for not being able to say out loud: "demons, in the name of Jesus, you leave me!" I seemed to know that God knew both my situation and my fears and I felt a security I hadn't felt before. I knew from my reading of the Bible, that sin separates us from God. So I began asking for forgiveness for what I have done in my life. If there was anything that would separate me from God, I asked that He would forgive me. Now I began to talk to God about my fright of flying and my lack of Christian grace. Would he answer my prayer? I started asking Him that if evil angels were indeed tormenting me, giving me uncontrollable fear, that God would force them away from me! When I finally closed my prayer and said amen! I noticed something happening! In the space of about 3 or 4 seconds, I felt my whole body relax. And after that I noticed that I was no longer afraid! Sure I was nervous but I was no longer having to try to hold up the plane with my feelings! For the first time I could relax my muscles! What a feeling! I was actually able to read my Bible for the rest of the trip. I had never been actually able to read anything in a plane before, I was so nervous I could not concentrate on anything. But now, I was almost comfortable. For your information, today I am a private pilot. I have flown in very bumpy weather with my plane bouncing around to the extent that I had trouble getting my hands on the right instruments when I needed to change the radio etc. yet I wasn't overly afraid! You will be able to see, when I start, the progression of my home-made sport aircraft which is also on my web pages. I praise God for what He has done for me! Quote UPDATE: It looks like will not be building that sport aircraft after all. Because I have chosen to pursue Creation Research, I have little money for flying anymore. In the future I will have an easy way for those who wish to donate money to the Molecular History Research Center. Not so I can fly, but that I can continue on with my research. I guess God is willing to banish the evil angels that cause a fear of flying, but not the ones that keep money from flowing into creationist bank accounts. Bummer. -------------- And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,20:58    Quote (keiths @ Mar. 16 2008,20:03) Quote UPDATE: It looks like will not be building that sport aircraft after all. Because I have chosen to pursue Creation Research, I have little money for flying anymore. In the future I will have an easy way for those who wish to donate money to the Molecular History Research Center. Not so I can fly, but that I can continue on with my research. I guess God is willing to banish the evil angels that cause a fear of flying, but not the ones that keep money from flowing into creationist bank accounts. Bummer. In light of certain events in 2001, a religious nut boasting about building an airplane probably evokes some suspicious glances and phone calls to shady government agencies. -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,21:13    it was either build a personal UFO or work on creation research.  roflmao. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,23:06    This one was mentioned on the UD thread the other day, but it's SO GOOD it deserves to be honored even more: By legendary UD tard Jerry: Quote There are thousands of ID studies done every year. They are in the mainstream biology and evolution journals. They are just not identified as such. Read DaveScot’s comment just above. Any research study that compares genomes of animals qualifies as an ID study despite the intentions of the researchers. ID predicts that genomes of species in the same family or genera will not have any meaningful differences that can be attributed to gradualism. This proposition is confirmed over and over again. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,01:05    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 16 2008,23:06) This one was mentioned on the UD thread the other day, but it's SO GOOD it deserves to be honored even more: By legendary UD tard Jerry:   Quote There are thousands of ID studies done every year. They are in the mainstream biology and evolution journals. They are just not identified as such. Read DaveScot’s comment just above. Any research study that compares genomes of animals qualifies as an ID study despite the intentions of the researchers. ID predicts that genomes of species in the same family or genera will not have any meaningful differences that can be attributed to gradualism. This proposition is confirmed over and over again. That quote is too funny. In addition to the "real scientists be damned" attitude, while Jerry is implying that intent means squat, Granny Spice is at her new blog arguing that intent is of utmost importance. Say it with me, friends: -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,06:52    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 16 2008,23:06) By legendary UD tard Jerry:     Quote There are thousands of ID studies done every year. They are in the mainstream biology and evolution journals. They are just not identified as such. Read DaveScot’s comment just above. Any research study that compares genomes of animals qualifies as an ID study despite the intentions of the researchers. ID predicts that genomes of species in the same family or genera will not have any meaningful differences that can be attributed to gradualism. This proposition is confirmed over and over again. Someone needs to tell Jerry that if that really IS an ID prediction, it doesn't hold up. The genes of dogs and cats of different breeds are very similar, and yet the outward appearance of these breeds is so different that a naive person (e.g. those at UD) might say that they are different species. From that WaPo article linked above   Quote When the researchers examined the genes of what are thought to be distinct breeds, they were unable to find significant differences among many of them. That seems to me, at least, to be fairly consistent with gradualism. Small genetic changes can make huge differences in phenotype. Larger genetic changes could presumably make larger changes... -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Patashu Posts: 6 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,17:28    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 14 2008,12:24) I was tarding around on Frequently Axed But Never Satisfactorily Developed into an Ontological Argument CreationWiki page.... Quote Biological distribution Why is there the present distribution of animals and plants in the world? How is it that marsupials are restricted to Australia and nearby islands and the Americas, monotremes to Australia, and few placental mammals are native to Australia? Why are tomatoes and potatoes native to the Americas only? (This is not a question merely of how they could have arrived there, it is also of why only there.) Answer: Natural selection, which creationists accept as a selective, not a creative process. The other areas, for one reason or another, had proved unsuitable for the organisms to survive. What an answer.  I will now accept that on tests.  Fuck biogeography, all we need is nature selected it so and creationists accept that in this case. I wonder how you'd explain non-native animals thriving in an environment they're newly exposed to by this route. After all, if they tried to get there before and they're so successful in that environment they'd have stayed there then.

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,17:59    This is not a quotation of tard, but a great quote from a fellow anti-tard warrior. Louis I believe I know someone who has perfected an argument that you absolutely love.  This probably belongs on the self-immolation er skeptic's thread, but since that is farther back than I care to explore I shall post it here henceforth and anon and never think of that other thread again. Norm is a young earth creationists playing science denial games and musing is knocking heads while smiling sweetly the whole time.  It's great but most of the tards know better than to play with her.   musing writes Quote norm p post 581, what is amusing is that I also believe that the Bible, or at least portions thereof, are inspired by God. But I will make no claim to be able to prove this objectively, nor do I have anywhere near the foolhardiness to claim the broad scope of objective truth to the Bible which you seem very comfortable in making, and in making without any supporting data. And then you do seem puzzled when we call you on it. musing is a very entertaining tard fighter that inhabits the fundagelical weblog of world magazine.  the kind of crap that posts stuff by Marvin Olasky who is a fan of D'OL.  and so the world goes. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2008,23:42    THANKS WILLY WALLA THIS ONE IS CLASSIC, CHIEF.  THIS IS THE WALL OF MANY COUP MY FRIEND, CONSIDER IT HONORABLE. Quote What if scientists decode DNA and it is found to have a cypher: “©4004 BC YHVH.” Oh, nevermind, even that would not convince an evolutionist; he would simply assert this was proof of common descent. Ever hearing, never understanding, ever seeing, never perceiving. By William Wallace on Mar 14, 2008 -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 13 2008,11:36    christ this is good. BA^77 you marvelous fool, PM me.  This Is The Good Shit. Quote This following studies offer the first tentative “baby steps” in that direction of proof for Theistic ID. Page 187 “Your Eternal Self” Hogan In the studies, random number generators (RNGs) around the world were examined after events that affected great numbers of people whether the numbers began to show some order during the events. During widely televised events that have captured the attention of many people, such as Princess Diana’s de^ath and the 9/11 tragedies, the combined output of the 60 RNGs around the world showed changes at the exact moments of the announcements of the events that could not be due to chance. To add control to their study researchers identified an event they knew was about to happen that would have an impact on large numbers of people and set up a study to measure the effects on RNGs in different parts of the world……. Oct 3, 1995 OJ Simpson verdict was chosen: around the time that the TV preshows began, at 9:00 AM Pacific Time, an unexpected degree of order appeared in all RNGs. This soon declined back to random behavior until about 10;00 AM, which is when the verdict was supposed to be announced. A few minutes later, the order in all 5 RNGs suddenly peaked to its highest point in the two hours of data precisely when the court clerk read the verdict. — For me this is verifiable repeatable evidence that overcomes the insurmountable problems that “random chance” has posed to Darwinism and offers proof of principle for the position held by Theistic IDers. ahhhhhh.  that's right.  sweet dark warm enveloping sleep of teh tard.   [passes out, needle in arm] -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2008,09:16    I was reading the discussion on why so few Christians are involved in science when compared to atheists over at Heddle's Palace of Love when I stumbled upon this gem from Crandaddy: Quote It just seems that a Christian should be drawn away from interest in material things. Augustine's affinity with the ideas of the neoplatonists who despised the material world and yearned for union with the divine strikes me as a perfectly reasonable Christian sentiment. Couple with this the utter uselessness of methodological naturalism in apologetics except for validating scriptural claims (and then only if we presuppose that scriptural claims even exist) and I am left in hopeless confusion as to why any Christian could take great interest in science--at least spiritual interest. And this, as any true Christian should know, is that which is of greatest interest. Crandaddy Gosh, where to begin? Anyhow..It's in this thread: Really Smart Scientists don’t Believe in God -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

Peter Henderson Posts: 298 Joined: Aug. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 17 2008,11:04    How about this one on aliens being subject to original sin from AiG (UK)'s Paul Taylor: http://www.answersingenesis.org/article....omer-et Quote Funes’s musings had a clear theological flavour. “Some aliens could even be free from original sin,” he opined. Such opinions fly in the face of Scripture. Isaiah 45, which refers to God’s creation of the heavens and the earth, makes it clear that it was the earth that was formed to be inhabited. No other heavenly body is referred to in such a way. But if there were alien intelligences, they could not be free from original sin. Romans 8:22 reminds us that “the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.” It would seem odd for these poor alien intelligences to be affected by the sin of another intelligent being on one obscure planet somewhere else in the universe. Although my faith would not be shaken if I encountered an alien, these passages lend support to the idea that humans are the only intelligences in the universe, and Earth is the only place where God has created life. I would assume that according to Paul Taylor SETI is pointless ? Just when you thought it couldn't get any sillier

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k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 02 2008,12:07    Quote Quote To pro-life, pro-family proponents, in an age where a man can be arrested for proclaiming sodomy to be a sin, or who can be fired from a teaching position for daring to discuss God, these tactics will sound eerily familiar.   hmm.  Expelled has matured into the marketplace of memes? .....Life is a bitch, for dull roots Teh Wasteland APRIL is the cruellest month, breeding   Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing   Memory and desire, stirring   Dull roots with spring rain... etc -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

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