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Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2012,09:10    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 27 2012,06:45) According to the study, people who said they were a "born-again" Protestant or Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation, had more hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy") compared to people who identified themselves as Protestants, but not born-again. Memo to self: Get  MRI scan and pick a religious affiliation if result is alarming. -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2012,09:25    yeah. double edged sword there :P -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2012,09:50    The study seems to say that the atrophy is stress related. Fortunately, where I live not being religious is default, so no stress whatsoever. -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

REC Posts: 638 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 27 2012,23:20    I think we need a "reddit shittyaskscience" vs uncommondescent quiz. Designer vs. unintended tard: "DNA must be transcribed to RNA. This involves an extremely complex “machine” called the transcriptome." "If we evolved from apes, why do I have canine teeth?" You decide... Shitty ask science....much lol

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2012,08:22    So UD is finally dying a deserved death? Hmmmm I may break my vows and post over there once before it dies utterly. Louis -------------- Bye.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2012,09:17    Proposed 50 words and concepts to be forbidden in NYC schools: Quote Abuse (physical, sexual, emotional, or psychological) Alcohol (beer and liquor), tobacco, or drugs Birthday celebrations (and birthdays) Bodily functions Cancer (and other diseases) Catastrophes/disasters (tsunamis and hurricanes) Celebrities Children dealing with serious issues Cigarettes (and other smoking paraphernalia) Computers in the home (acceptable in a school or library setting) Crime Death and disease Divorce Evolution Expensive gifts, vacations, and prizes Gambling involving money Halloween Homelessness Homes with swimming pools Hunting Junk food In-depth discussions of sports that require prior knowledge Loss of employment Nuclear weapons Occult topics (i.e. fortune-telling) Parapsychology Politics Pornography Poverty Rap Music Religion Religious holidays and festivals (including but not limited to Christmas, Yom Kippur, and Ramadan) Rock-and-Roll music Running away Sex Slavery Terrorism Television and video games (excessive use) Traumatic material (including material that may be particularly upsetting such as animal shelters) Vermin (rats and roaches) Violence War and bloodshed Weapons (guns, knives, etc.) Witchcraft, sorcery, etc. Quote The word “dinosaur” made the hit list because dinosaurs suggest evolution which creationists might not like, WCBS 880?s Marla Diamond reported. “Halloween” is targeted because it suggests paganism; a “birthday” might not be happy to all because it isn’t celebrated by Jehovah’s Witnesses. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012....d-tests Something to occupy our minds after the death of UD. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2012,09:47    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 28 2012,09:17) Proposed 50 words and concepts to be forbidden in NYC schools: Quote Abuse (physical, sexual, emotional, or psychological) Alcohol (beer and liquor), tobacco, or drugs Birthday celebrations (and birthdays) Bodily functions Cancer (and other diseases) Catastrophes/disasters (tsunamis and hurricanes) Celebrities Children dealing with serious issues Cigarettes (and other smoking paraphernalia) Computers in the home (acceptable in a school or library setting) Crime Death and disease Divorce Evolution Expensive gifts, vacations, and prizes Gambling involving money Halloween Homelessness Homes with swimming pools Hunting Junk food In-depth discussions of sports that require prior knowledge Loss of employment Nuclear weapons Occult topics (i.e. fortune-telling) Parapsychology Politics Pornography Poverty Rap Music Religion Religious holidays and festivals (including but not limited to Christmas, Yom Kippur, and Ramadan) Rock-and-Roll music Running away Sex Slavery Terrorism Television and video games (excessive use) Traumatic material (including material that may be particularly upsetting such as animal shelters) Vermin (rats and roaches) Violence War and bloodshed Weapons (guns, knives, etc.) Witchcraft, sorcery, etc. Quote The word “dinosaur” made the hit list because dinosaurs suggest evolution which creationists might not like, WCBS 880?s Marla Diamond reported. “Halloween” is targeted because it suggests paganism; a “birthday” might not be happy to all because it isn’t celebrated by Jehovah’s Witnesses. [URL=http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/26/war-on-words-nyc-dept-of-education-wants-50-forbidden-words-removed-from-standardized-test s/]http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012....d-tests[/URL] Something to occupy our minds after the death of UD. Man, I just got finished with this at Phrangulya... First, this list is in regards to the standardized test, NOT the curriculum or the text books or that kind of thing. Two, for us assessment people, there are some ways around these kinds of lists.  For example, note that 'common descent', 'natural selection', 'cladograms', etc are not on the list.  So we can't use the "E" word.  Speciation would probably work too. Three, many of these concepts, regardless of the truth or not, are upsetting to students.  This can badly skew the test results and something no one wants is a kid freaking out in the middle of a test.  Yes, it's correct science.  Yes, life is hard and kids need to be aware of it.  But it's still a bad idea to talk about Little Johnny's grandmother dying of leukemia.  In a state like New York, there's guaranteed to be at least a few kids whose beloved grandmother just died and we need to prevent an emotional reaction to the test. Four, trust me, as a science specialist in the assessment industry, there is no way that creationism will get on the tests.  Ain't gonna happen and I don't know anyone who would try it.  I'm somewhat known as the 'evolution' expert in my company, so I get calls about "does this make sense" and "is this right" in regards to evolution-based questions.   In fact, (I just checked), New York standards have evolution as a major key idea with 12 sub-topics. So, I think it really is more about avoiding emotionally charged issues in a testing environment rather than trying to eliminate evolution. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2012,10:07    Quote So, I think it really is more about avoiding emotionally charged issues in a testing environment rather than trying to eliminate evolution. Yes, but you are reading past the sensational headlines, and that's not fair. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 28 2012,10:14    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 28 2012,10:07) Quote So, I think it really is more about avoiding emotionally charged issues in a testing environment rather than trying to eliminate evolution. Yes, but you are reading past the sensational headlines, and that's not fair. Hell, I didn't even read the headlines... or the article.  I get all my news from Comedy Central.  (sad, but true) Everyone wants to vilify testing.  Of course, they don't use it for what it's intended for.  I guess, when all you have is a bat, everything looks like a kneecap. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,08:05    Joe appears to be making death-threats against Nick:   Quote And more evidence that Nick Matzke misrepresents reality- as if we needed more evidence to that effect: Yet another Scopes Monkey Trial on the way in Tennessee Unbelievable- Nick do you ever properly represent anything? Do you realize that people who can read know you are lying? Nick- ever hear of Madeline Murray O’Hare? She had nothing on what I am going to bring down on you and your ilk… My bold. His threat. Link Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick there? Seems clear to me... -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,08:22    Well, according to Joe.... Quote As there has been no news coming out of Los Angeles pertaining to Coppedge vs JPL I can only assume my prediction has come true- this is a very boring trial. I have been in a few trials and I can attest to their boring nature.

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,08:51    that boy has tried every one who has ever known him, i'd reckon -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

utidjian Posts: 185 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,09:55    A Casey Luskin sighting on the Daily Show: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch......terview About 2:54 in to the video. -------------- Being laughed at doesn't mean you're progressing along some line. It probably just means you're saying some stupid shit -stevestory

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,11:26    Ogre, I've got a question that maybe you can answer.  Our lovely state has been field testing the new STAAR exams (and keeping me from having any days to teach).  Since the kids know it doesn't count, many of them have put zero effort into doing it.  For example, one coach at a recent academic competition told me half his class raised their hands that they were finished immediately after he finished the instructions.  Is there actually some way to get useful data out of that, or are they just wasting our time? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,11:57    Quote (Texas Teach @ Mar. 29 2012,11:26) Ogre, I've got a question that maybe you can answer.  Our lovely state has been field testing the new STAAR exams (and keeping me from having any days to teach).  Since the kids know it doesn't count, many of them have put zero effort into doing it.  For example, one coach at a recent academic competition told me half his class raised their hands that they were finished immediately after he finished the instructions.  Is there actually some way to get useful data out of that, or are they just wasting our time? Nope, if the students don't take it seriously, then it's a waste of effort. It should be readily obvious to the statisticians too.   STAAR is an End-Of-Course test right?  In that case (and this is just my opinion), I'd like to see students get no credit for the course until they pass the test. If students pass the test, the first time in early April, then they are done with that class and can go home.  If not, then teachers use the results of the test to develop tutorials aimed at those students and test again in 4 weeks or so.  (BTW: I'm working on a project that will allow much greater detail in determining why a student got a question wrong, allowing a more refined tutorial program. EOC tests test the curriculum, so if teachers are 'teaching to the test', then they are teaching the curriculum... unlike the TAKS in which 3 entire years of curriculum were boiled down into 8 questions, 4 of which were always of the same type... which could be taught. I don't know if that answers your question though... -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,16:09    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 29 2012,06:05) Joe appears to be making death-threats against Nick:     Quote And more evidence that Nick Matzke misrepresents reality- as if we needed more evidence to that effect: Yet another Scopes Monkey Trial on the way in Tennessee Unbelievable- Nick do you ever properly represent anything? Do you realize that people who can read know you are lying? Nick- ever hear of Madeline Murray O’Hare? She had nothing on what I am going to bring down on you and your ilk… My bold. His threat. Link Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick there? Seems clear to me... And joe recently said: "That said ,Madelyn Murray O'Hair is nothing compared to what I have coming. So keep chanting that I have nothing- I am sure people said the same thing about O'Hair, and look what she did..." It looks as though joe is either making death threats or he is going to become an atheist activist. The latter is much less likely. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,16:38    Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 29 2012,23:09) Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 29 2012,06:05) Joe appears to be making death-threats against Nick:     Quote And more evidence that Nick Matzke misrepresents reality- as if we needed more evidence to that effect: Yet another Scopes Monkey Trial on the way in Tennessee Unbelievable- Nick do you ever properly represent anything? Do you realize that people who can read know you are lying? Nick- ever hear of Madeline Murray O’Hare? She had nothing on what I am going to bring down on you and your ilk… My bold. His threat. Link Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick there? Seems clear to me... And joe recently said: "That said ,Madelyn Murray O'Hair is nothing compared to what I have coming. So keep chanting that I have nothing- I am sure people said the same thing about O'Hair, and look what she did..." It looks as though joe is either making death threats or he is going to become an atheist activist. The latter is much less likely. Maybe he's referring to the initial suspicions upon her disapearence that she had embezzled AA, in which case I guess he really means, well... Nope, I've got nothing. -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,16:59    Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 29 2012,11:57) Quote (Texas Teach @ Mar. 29 2012,11:26) Ogre, I've got a question that maybe you can answer.  Our lovely state has been field testing the new STAAR exams (and keeping me from having any days to teach).  Since the kids know it doesn't count, many of them have put zero effort into doing it.  For example, one coach at a recent academic competition told me half his class raised their hands that they were finished immediately after he finished the instructions.  Is there actually some way to get useful data out of that, or are they just wasting our time? Nope, if the students don't take it seriously, then it's a waste of effort. It should be readily obvious to the statisticians too.   STAAR is an End-Of-Course test right?  In that case (and this is just my opinion), I'd like to see students get no credit for the course until they pass the test. If students pass the test, the first time in early April, then they are done with that class and can go home.  If not, then teachers use the results of the test to develop tutorials aimed at those students and test again in 4 weeks or so.  (BTW: I'm working on a project that will allow much greater detail in determining why a student got a question wrong, allowing a more refined tutorial program. EOC tests test the curriculum, so if teachers are 'teaching to the test', then they are teaching the curriculum... unlike the TAKS in which 3 entire years of curriculum were boiled down into 8 questions, 4 of which were always of the same type... which could be taught. I don't know if that answers your question though... It does thanks.  I'm both excited and nervous about the EOCs.  Excited for the reasons you listed.  Nervous because I can imagine how the admins will torture us in new and exciting ways. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,17:47    Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 29 2012,16:09) And joe recently said: "That said ,Madelyn Murray O'Hair is nothing compared to what I have coming. So keep chanting that I have nothing- I am sure people said the same thing about O'Hair, and look what she did..." Hmm, well If Joe achieves something then I'll go with that. So, Joe, when you have your own personal Wikipedia page documenting what you've done then I'll consider you in the same league as O'Hair re: achievements. You won't be, no doubt, but just for the sake of argument. You have to achieve a certain threshhold to get your own page, whatever it's for, so seems reasonable to me that if you achieve only a fraction of any notable activist you'll get a page. So, Joe, your move.  Heck, I'll even start it! Let me know when you achieve something Joe. And I don't mean getting off the pot. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 29 2012,19:40    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Mar. 29 2012,15:47) Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 29 2012,16:09) And joe recently said: "That said ,Madelyn Murray O'Hair is nothing compared to what I have coming. So keep chanting that I have nothing- I am sure people said the same thing about O'Hair, and look what she did..." Hmm, well If Joe achieves something then I'll go with that. So, Joe, when you have your own personal Wikipedia page documenting what you've done then I'll consider you in the same league as O'Hair re: achievements. You won't be, no doubt, but just for the sake of argument. You have to achieve a certain threshhold to get your own page, whatever it's for, so seems reasonable to me that if you achieve only a fraction of any notable activist you'll get a page. So, Joe, your move.  Heck, I'll even start it! Let me know when you achieve something Joe. And I don't mean getting off the pot. I'm all for a Wikipedia page devoted to joe. It could be titled: The arrogance, stupidity, and cowardice of a tick infested, basement dwelling, loud-mouthed, incorrigible, muslim, creationist IDiot. joe is playing some kind of game with the references to O'Hair. It's strange that he would bring her up unless he is planning on kidnapping, torturing, murdering, and dismembering some atheists. If he's got some other plan up his sleeve I would think that he could find a more appropriate person to refer to. joe likes to claim that he is working on something that will scientifically refute "Darwinism" once and for all, but of course he never reveals what it is. He also likes to claim that he would easily crush "Darwinism" in a courtroom, and that all he needs is the chance to do so. Maybe his plan is to take "Darwinism" to the supreme court and have it outlawed, and then to somehow become ruler of the world, and then to force sharia law on everyone, and then to kidnap, torture, murder, and dismember all atheists. Whatever he's planning, I'm sure it will be laughable, IF he ever reveals it. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2012,02:48    Quote (The whole truth @ Mar. 29 2012,19:40) joe is playing some kind of game with the references to O'Hair. I think it's simply that he wants people to think "death threats" but when called on it he'll simply say that's not at all what he meant, how could you think such a thing? Even slimy sal read it as a threat: Quote I know you’re angry, but I’d like for us to be moderately civil while confronting Nick here on my threads. When he visits, it like enemies under a flag of truce. There are other places where you can vent your hard feelings, and I thank you for your restraint so far in my thread. What's uncivil about saying that you thought you'd seen an activist in action but when you see me.... -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

NormOlsen Posts: 104 Joined: Nov. 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2012,21:23    Speaking of Sal... yuck.

NormOlsen Posts: 104 Joined: Nov. 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2012,22:20    One more time.

NormOlsen Posts: 104 Joined: Nov. 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2012,22:21    Er, never mind, link does not appear to be working.  Nothing to see here, carry on...

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2012,22:34    Take it as a sign from God. (the forum butchers long URLs, use tinyurl to get around it) But, yes, 'yuck' is an appropriate reaction to Slimy Sal.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 30 2012,23:09    Quote (NormOlsen @ Mar. 30 2012,22:21) Er, never mind, link does not appear to be working.  Nothing to see here, carry on... Use tiny urls, Norm. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2012,06:26    Quote (NormOlsen @ Mar. 30 2012,21:23) Speaking of Sal... yuck.   Nick slaps him down:     Quote 50 NickMatzke_UD      March 26, 2012 at 5:57 pm   Quote PS By the way Nick, now you’ve had a chance to taste how we in the ID community perceive the behavior from your side of the ailse. Evolutionary biologists like Coyne and Dawkins aren’t as objective, dispassionate, and fair with the facts are they? Hang out with us. We may disagree, but at least for myself I won’t stoop so low as your GNU “friends”.     Sal — you’ve been acting OK in this particular thread, but for years you’ve been famous amongst us evolution-debaters for any number of creationist shenanigans which were vile or idiotic if taken seriously, and juvenile/unserious/unprofessional if taken as jokes. Start with various quote mines of Darwin and others, then move over to junk like the “Darwin beat a puppy” story removed of context, then move to your refusal to acknowledge reality even on ultra-simple matters like the age of the Earth, and finally the Darwin-Nazi stuff — and that’s just what I remember off the top of my head. You’ve got a lot of work to do before you’re going to convince us that you are serious, constructive, and nice person, or even one who actually follows what are supposed to be Christian values in your online persona. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2012,09:33    Sal provides a 'tableau grotesque'  for ID and has always been Don Dembski's Sancho Pança the twit in the technicolor leather jacket' As usual we can expect mores sanchismos from Sal. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2012,10:51    Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 31 2012,10:33) Sal provides a 'tableau grotesque'  for ID and has always been Don Dembski's Sancho Pança the twit in the technicolor leather jacket' As usual we can expect mores sanchismos from Sal. i've never questioned that but i have had to wonder if he has a permanent ashtray mounted in the small of his back -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2012,12:11    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 31 2012,08:51) Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 31 2012,10:33) Sal provides a 'tableau grotesque'  for ID and has always been Don Dembski's Sancho Pança the twit in the technicolor leather jacket' As usual we can expect mores sanchismos from Sal. i've never questioned that but i have had to wonder if he has a permanent ashtray mounted in the small of his back and a flat spot on the back of his head for the 12-year-old scotch. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

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