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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 14 2009,21:25   

Quote (MichaelJ @ Aug. 14 2009,20:12)
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MichaelJ, are you related to Henry J?

yes, but we don't like to talk about THAT side of the family, especially after the incident with the goat and Sister Virtue J

So, Henry J is related to Louis?

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2009,04:50   

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First hint: Calling
My god that sounds awful. And boring. I wonder if that's what he's trying to drum up capital for here on his blog.

He's Ixnayed that posts, along with the comment I out there.

Ha Ha! Maybe whoever's producing the Dr. Dino drama didn't like Kev's marketing technique. Or maybe Kev's just a doofus.

Uhh, Dude?  We expelled Kevin Eleven from his own blog because, otherwise, if the Kent Hovind movie gets made, the whole edifice of evolutionary hegemony will crumble down onto it's rotten foundation.

Maybe you should have been paying attention at last week's Evil Darwinist Conspiracy meeting rather than trying to sneak a peak up Arden's skirt.  The expelling was discussed right after the communal prayer to Richard Dawkins and before we passed around the decorating committee sign-up sheet for next month's Ebola Ball.


Nominated by me.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2009,12:00   

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So, Henry J is related to Louis?

We're talking biology here, not relativity. :p

Henry

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2009,19:45   

PZ:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyng...._cr.php

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AmandaHuginKiss



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2009,21:14   

Kevin has turned up at PZ's blog with his feelings hurt that no-body bothered to talk to him first.

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,07:07   

Kevin Miller upbraids PZ Myers:

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Before you talk about me, pz, try talking to me. You're a scientist. Make sure you're working with all of the facts before you arrive at a conclusion. I'm very easy to find online.


As the commenters noted, the last time PZ had cause to talk with Kevin, what Kevin provided were falsehoods and not facts.

So, Kevin, what "facts" are at issue? Did Resurrection Films lie when they told us that you were the scriptwriter for the Hovind flick? Or did they lie about what the topic of the film was that you wrote the screenplay for? Is there some other way that Resurrection Films lied to us about your involvement? You can tell us.

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,07:19   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Aug. 16 2009,07:07)
Kevin Miller upbraids PZ Myers:

 
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Before you talk about me, pz, try talking to me. You're a scientist. Make sure you're working with all of the facts before you arrive at a conclusion. I'm very easy to find online.


As the commenters noted, the last time PZ had cause to talk with Kevin, what Kevin provided were falsehoods and not facts.

So, Kevin, what "facts" are at issue? Did Resurrection Films lie when they told us that you were the scriptwriter for the Hovind flick? Or did they lie about what the topic of the film was that you wrote the screenplay for? Is there some other way that Resurrection Films lied to us about your involvement? You can tell us.

My bet is the Kevin Eleven's visit to PZ's place is a combination of the Casey Luskin patented nice Christian boy act* coupled with the old saw that there is no such thing as bad publicity. He isn't interested in dialogue. He is interested in the appearance of dialogue and will point to the ensuing rough-and-tumble at Pharyngula as proof how them evil atheists are intent on supressing the film.

And that, friends, is why it is so important that this film is made.  So, how much can I put you down for?

*Presumably as a Hollywood insider, Kevin Eleven will approach the role with an understatement that Casey, who makes Master Thespian seem subtle, could not achieve.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,08:40   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Aug. 16 2009,13:07)
Kevin Miller upbraids PZ Myers:

 
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Before you talk about me, pz, try talking to me. You're a scientist. Make sure you're working with all of the facts before you arrive at a conclusion. I'm very easy to find online.


As the commenters noted, the last time PZ had cause to talk with Kevin, what Kevin provided were falsehoods and not facts.

So, Kevin, what "facts" are at issue? Did Resurrection Films lie when they told us that you were the scriptwriter for the Hovind flick? Or did they lie about what the topic of the film was that you wrote the screenplay for? Is there some other way that Resurrection Films lied to us about your involvement? You can tell us.

He can? Perhaps so. I suspect he won't however.

Tragic really, I'd love to know what facts PZ got wrong.

Louis

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,08:52   

Quote (AmandaHuginKiss @ Aug. 15 2009,21:14)
Kevin has turned up at PZ's blog with his feelings hurt that no-body bothered to talk to him first.

Kevin, you have already taught people, including PZ, to look for the real truth behind your spin.

You teach people how to treat you by how you act.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,12:40   

It's all marketing. Being mocked at PZ's is good publicity.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,16:28   

I don't know why Kev-0 doesn't do Sternberg.

Now, there's a gripping yarn complete with intrigue, suspense, dusty corridors, halls of power, room to grow and a back door that's exit only, thank you very much.  Sternberg!  Who was expelled then not expelled.

Unless Kev-0's lined up Glenn Beck to play Hovind.  Then it's got to be a Chick flick.

  
ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 17 2009,13:08   

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Kevin Miller, *sigh*-- Hate to break it to you, Erv, but in this case you may not be working with all of the relevant data. Feel free to verify your sources any time.

First of all, I love it when Creationists say 'Erv'.  Its almost as good as when Deniers say 'Aids'.

Secondly, Kevins quite right.  I assumed he was a YEC for glorifying Hovind for an Evangelical film company.  There are alternatives.

1.  Kevin is a slut.  Doesnt believe any of it, will put his name on anything for $$$.
2.  Kevin is a mole.  Hes not really into airheaded po-mo TARD, hes just using that crap as a cover to gain Evangelicals trust to make fun of them.  Like Edmondson.  Hes throwing himself on a grenade to bring us glorious, glorious lulz, like EXPELLED and a Hovind mocumentary.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 17 2009,19:33   

If Kevin Eleven continues his assault on sanity, we should open him a litter-box of his very own that he can post on.

Working Title:  Humping For Hovind.

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rhmc



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 18 2009,07:57   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Aug. 16 2009,17:28)
...Then it's got to be a Chick flick.

so you do know Jack.

  
Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2009,11:54   

So, now the whole expelling of PZ "never happened"? Some nutjob named Talitha00Cumi on You Tube has informed me:
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Amused Child, you're lying through your false teeth, bro. NO ONE was thrown out. Not PZ, not anyone!

Do you need to lie to get attention? Were? you neglected as a child and now crave any sort of attention you can get?

PZ was one of the childish, irresponsible ones, and he was warned that he'd be throw out if he didn't behave, but he was never thrown out.

Stop lying.

This creature seems to be confusing the visit to the Creation Museum with the preview of "Expelled" - except that this person has been corrected several times!

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2009,13:00   

Quote (Kristine @ Sep. 05 2009,18:54)
So, now the whole expelling of PZ "never happened"? Some nutjob named Talitha00Cumi on You Tube has informed me:
 
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Amused Child, you're lying through your false teeth, bro. NO ONE was thrown out. Not PZ, not anyone!

Do you need to lie to get attention? Were? you neglected as a child and now crave any sort of attention you can get?

PZ was one of the childish, irresponsible ones, and he was warned that he'd be throw out if he didn't behave, but he was never thrown out.

Stop lying.

This creature seems to be confusing the visit to the Creation Museum with the preview of "Expelled" - except that this person has been corrected several times!

Sweet dancing Jehova! What a douche!

Go get her, Kristine!

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 05 2009,15:54   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Sep. 05 2009,13:00)
Quote (Kristine @ Sep. 05 2009,18:54)
So, now the whole expelling of PZ "never happened"? Some nutjob named Talitha00Cumi on You Tube has informed me:
   
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Amused Child, you're lying through your false teeth, bro. NO ONE was thrown out. Not PZ, not anyone!

Do you need to lie to get attention? Were? you neglected as a child and now crave any sort of attention you can get?

PZ was one of the childish, irresponsible ones, and he was warned that he'd be throw out if he didn't behave, but he was never thrown out.

Stop lying.

This creature seems to be confusing the visit to the Creation Museum with the preview of "Expelled" - except that this person has been corrected several times!

Sweet dancing Jehova! What a douche!

Go get her, Kristine!

Here's what the creature said back in June of 2008:
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talitha00cumi
June 16th, 2008, 11:17 AM
wow. Funny. The guy must be a total jerk and was expected to disrupt the film. Dickie Dawkins can be a total jerk, but he's dignified enough to keep silent during a film, I'm sure.

Did anyone find out why the guy wasn't allowed in? Or are you all just guessing based on... knee-jerk reactions and empty heads?

Just a lil question.

Awfully nice to have it both ways.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,10:33   

Darwin Expelled from U.S.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news....ca.html

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Aardvark



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2009,13:11   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 13 2009,10:33)
Darwin Expelled from U.S.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news....ca.html



I was thinking exactly the same thing when I read that article.

  
Advocatus Diaboli



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2009,13:52   

Oh noes! ID expelled again! Constination and uproar!

But would you guess, it's another foot-bullet from Disco:

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Avi Davis said the cancellation had nothing to do with contract issues, but rather a press release touting the film issued a few days ago by the Discovery Institute, a Seattle-based "intelligent design" think tank.

The institute's release announced that some of its fellows were featured in the film to be screened at a location they described as the "Smithsonian Institution's west coast affiliate."


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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2009,14:18   

Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Oct. 09 2009,13:52)
Oh noes! ID expelled again! Constination and uproar!

But would you guess, it's another foot-bullet from Disco:

 
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Avi Davis said the cancellation had nothing to do with contract issues, but rather a press release touting the film issued a few days ago by the Discovery Institute, a Seattle-based "intelligent design" think tank.

The institute's release announced that some of its fellows were featured in the film to be screened at a location they described as the "Smithsonian Institution's west coast affiliate."

If the D I actually invited feedback, I would remind them that the venue was just not right for the showing of their new ID comedy...

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UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Lowell



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2009,14:43   

Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Oct. 09 2009,13:52)
Oh noes! ID expelled again! Constination and uproar!

But would you guess, it's another foot-bullet from Disco:

 
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Avi Davis said the cancellation had nothing to do with contract issues, but rather a press release touting the film issued a few days ago by the Discovery Institute, a Seattle-based "intelligent design" think tank.

The institute's release announced that some of its fellows were featured in the film to be screened at a location they described as the "Smithsonian Institution's west coast affiliate."

The comments there are good, too. A few "design proponents" showed up and got their asses handed to them by some regular posters who seem pretty familiar with the ID dog-and-pony show.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2009,02:05   

I may be late to the party on this one, but I have noticed there is no mention of Expelled on Stein's site's filmography page any more, and no direct mention anywhere else on the site that I can find. Has Ben expelled Expelled?
(Or is this old news?)
Edited: Dang - see J-Dog's comment below. Looks like I had fooled myself into thinking that Stein had developed - if not remorse, or conscience -  maybe shame or some sort of guilt about the travesty that is Expelled. No such luck, I guess.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2009,10:34   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Oct. 23 2009,02:05)
I may be late to the party on this one, but I have noticed there is no mention of Expelled on Stein's site's filmography page any more, and no direct mention anywhere else on the site that I can find. Has Ben expelled Expelled?
(Or is this old news?)

Jeez... I hate like hell to stick up for Stein, but your link says it was last updated in 2/07... before the release of the Blockbuster Smash Christian Church Basement Hit, Expelled.

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2009,15:55   

At last, Stein has finally found a worthwhile cause!

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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2009,16:03   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 26 2009,15:55)
At last, Stein has finally found a worthwhile cause!

Actually, it is a natural fit for Ben. Puppy mills are the logical consequence of Darwinism unrestrained by a objective moral code.  Just like Nazism, Communism, and Hyper-capitalism.



Edited by Lou FCD on Oct. 26 2009,19:32

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2009,16:41   

SEX SMELLED: CARSLON GOT PLOUGHED.

:)

ETA: PotW.

EETA: PotW this jeneyus, not horsebotherer's rubbish aboves!

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2009,08:07   

Somehow, this report in today's NY Times didn't include a comment from their erstwhile star columnist who, you may recall, has some expertise in this area.

Just one of those random glitches, I'm sure.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2009,08:30   

Quote (Amadan @ Nov. 03 2009,08:07)
Somehow, this report in today's NY Times didn't include a comment from their erstwhile star columnist who, you may recall, has some expertise in this area.

Just one of those random glitches, I'm sure.

In another intetresting conincidence, the business motto of both freecreditreport.com and ID are exactly the same - "there's a sucker born every minute".  I have to give ID credit for evolving building on it though - they added "Buy My Book" all on their own.

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ppb



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2009,10:10   

I just went to Amazon and ordered some batteries for a cordless drill.  When I completed the order, on the left-hand side of the page were some "Recommendations Based on Your Order."  

They were as follows:

    1) Hitachi WH12DAF2 12-Volt Ni-Cad Cordless Impact Driver
    2) Hitachi UB12D Torch 9.6-Volt to 12-Volt Pivoting Head Flashlight
    3) DVD "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed", staring Ben Stein and Richard Dawkins.

Makes perfect sense to me.  :p

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