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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,10:11   

Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 06 2009,09:58)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Feb. 06 2009,08:24)
You know, I'm still waiting for FtK to...

Just how many times are you guys going to press that bar, waiting for cheezburger drop? ;)

That's what you get with intermittent reinforcement.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,12:24   

Wow, I can't believe that cuting funk FTK is still around. And I've only progressed to page 132 of this thread so far!

FTK, make the world a favor and go live in a bunker somewhere.

Thanks!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,12:47   

Hey now, no need to be mean.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,13:13   

Well dnmlthr, you, know, that's exactly what I thought at first...

But now, I have to say there is a limit to what a (relatively) sane mind can take. I am amazed and trully impressed by the way all you guys kept you temper regarding BT...oups, FTK for so long. I mean, were I Davebatrossity2, I would have given her a slap at that lecture they both attended a while ago, and wouldn't feel any remorse for doing so.

I am lucky that in France such nutcases are marginal and have no weight whatsoever on any reasonably sane part of the population.

To resume: Me must stop FTKing, me haz teh dumb!

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"I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis

"The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

   
Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,13:44   

And FTK, if you like creation myths, here is one I wrote something like 5 years ago.

It has all the charms of religion, with the added extra of clearly being fiction! The funny thing is: imagine what would happen if in 2000 years someone found it and started a worldwide cult?

From that simple first draft, I have already been able to conclude that more than 14 different religions would arise. Sounds familiar?

Sorry to all, this is going to be a LOOONNNNGGG post, and english is not my first language. But I invite anyone willing to compare this simple draft to, for example, the bible, and outbalance the scientific claims that could be made about it...

But on the other hand, reading this alcool-induced bullcrap is not mandatory, so feel free to ignore it, I'm just trying to make a point :)

So, here is the beginning of the Osyrhian story:

OSYRHIA


ANTA, The age of None


In the beginning, there was nothing. Not even darkness, for darkness was something already. The lights of Solan were yet to shine in the firmament of the Gods, and no sound was heard. Then the note softly rose, soaring through the Nothing. When it reached its maximum, it turned into a thunderous chord and a sudden explosion of light filled the universe. The shockwave folded the plans of space and time, spreading like a ripple on a calm lake. Then, in the time of a heartbeat, it collapsed on itself to give birth to a new world, just a mere ball of rock drifting in the darkness, but with a consciousness of its own. This particular mind had no name, but it was given many by the races it later hosted. The most famous of them all, the one that survived through millenniums of an eventful history was Osyrhia. It was said the Gods gave it, or Her, which is more accurate, this name. She gave birth to the seven Gods, the essence of Her essence, so they could fulfill Her thirst of life and beauty, for a sterile piece of rock was not Her idea of an achievement. So the Gods faded into existence, each one gifted with a particular talent. She gave each a name to complete their uniqueness. They were Edoran, Arel, Mirenor, Efael, Solan, Laemnil and Sirid.


Edoran, the first, said: "I shall have this planet shinning like a pearl, so it will be unique and of a beauty never seen before". With these words he dropped a tear of joy on the living rock, which became the seas flowing all around it.

Mirenor looked at it thoughtfully and said: "It is all the same color, and flat on its surface. I will make it more unique now, and give it some pikes and mounds and flat lands for a whole new pattern". So he pinched the very heart of the planet, under the seas, and raised the mountains and plains, giving birth to many lakes and rivers.

Efael then said: "I shall enclose this treasure in a chest of winds, skies and clouds, to give it an ever changing shade". He gave a gentle blow, which became a magnificent summer night sky full with great white clouds, although not yet doted with the shine of stars.

Which brought Solan to a thought: "This jewel shall glint in the ether and know many a night and a day to add to your ever changing shade, Efael". He rubbed his hands against each other, and from this heat was created a majestic ball of intense fire. "I shall call it Sun, and suspend many of the same high in the sky so this one will seem brighter then ever". And thus the stars were born.

Then came the turn of Laemnil to speak: "If this beloved treasure is to change and stay unique, I will give it the mightiest changes ever". So he cut his left hand, and sunk it deep in the heart of the world. "It will scratch and fist and spread, so all on the surface will change in randomness". By this, he created the earthquakes, volcanoes and all that makes the undergrounds move endlessly.

By game and gentle defiance, Arel then said: "I shall soften the work of your hand, Laemnil, and give the lands some support to resist your endless torments". She took a handful of her hair and planted it deep on the slopes of the mountains and over the flat lands, thus creating the trees and forests and grass and flowers. This act further brought Laemnil and Arel to always challenge each other, in gentle defiance.

At last, Sirid joined in and said: "I will put the fishes under your sea, Edoran, the worms and moles under your ground, Mirenor, The birds under your skies, Efael, the deer and bears and raccoons under your trees, Arel, the dragons and wyrms in your left hand, Laemnil, and many other living creatures to fill this world".

What had once been a lifeless rock drifting in darkness was now a magnificent world. It is at this time that the Gods named it Osyrhia: “The Shinning”, or "The Light". But the time of the seven races hadn’t come yet. The period preceding the reign of the conscious people has been called Anta: “The age of None”.

With their first task complete, the Gods went to a peaceful rest and left the world as it was. But the lives and forces they had created did not sleep, however, forging the cradle that would later host their true children. And as the Gods were asleep rose the age of the Giants, unseen by the deities and taking the world as their own. They built the lost cities of K’hal Damara and Rhu, whose massive columns and statues could still be seen under the reign of Morick, and gave birth to many legends and myths. Their very existence had not been dreamed by the spirit of Osyrhia and was the fruit of hazardous turns in the path of evolution. They had no knowledge of the Gods or respect for the lands they lived on.  Breeding fast they soon drenched the natural resources of the world and menaced the coming of the conscious ones. At some point, their enormous size and their eager expansion disturbed the equilibrium of Osyrhia. The spirit of the world was severely wounded by their deeds and couldn’t stand the pressure anymore. So, unheeded by the seven Gods, She brought cataclysmic changes and signed the end of the Giants. The Giants fought back with blind strength in what is known as the Giants War, but the power of Osyrhia was determined to host the children of the Gods and unleashed its terrible force. The world was different during the age of the Giants, and the continents were yet to become what they would later be. The land rose and fell, the seas devoured vast pieces of ground and high plateaus emerged from the troubled waters. The impious cities were swept away or turned to dust, and the Giants were erased from the surface of the world. For they were not part of the Primal dream, the Giants could not be hosted by Sirid, the bringer of life and ultimate receiver of the souls of the departed. Their spirits were condemned to wander in the world until their time would be due. It is still said that when the Gods woke up, they took pity of this forsaken race and gave them a place as their direct servants, small deities amongst a pantheon created by men. It is said, however, that some descendants of this people still lived hidden in the less populated parts of Osyrhia at the time of the conscious ones. The great statues and gigantic ruins they left behind held a lot of secrets for the later inhabitants of Osyrhia, and it was said that one day the Giants would rise again, bringing hope or doom to all…

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"I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,13:58   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 06 2009,13:13)
Well dnmlthr, you, know, that's exactly what I thought at first...

But now, I have to say there is a limit to what a (relatively) sane mind can take. I am amazed and trully impressed by the way all you guys kept you temper regarding BT...oups, FTK for so long. I mean, were I Davebatrossity2, I would have given her a slap at that lecture they both attended a while ago, and wouldn't feel any remorse for doing so.

I am lucky that in France such nutcases are marginal and have no weight whatsoever on any reasonably sane part of the population.

To resume: Me must stop FTKing, me haz teh dumb!

Well, it's always best to turn the other cheek when you are accused of nauseating arrogance by someone who hasn't a clue about what it is you do for a living.

In fact, I've just now changed my sig here from an FtK quote of surpassing stupidity to a stanza from a poem by Pattiann Rogers, a lovely human being who deserves much wider recognition. No more free advertising for FtK!

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,14:04   

Well Dave, kudos to you for this!

The poem looks a LOT better than anything FTK could have spurted!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,14:28   

Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 06 2009,15:58)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Feb. 06 2009,08:24)
You know, I'm still waiting for FtK to...

Just how many times are you guys going to press that bar, waiting for cheezburger drop? ;)

Whuuuuuuuuuuuuh? There's cheezburgers? Why wasn't I told?

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,14:38   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 06 2009,14:28)
Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 06 2009,15:58)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Feb. 06 2009,08:24)
You know, I'm still waiting for FtK to...

Just how many times are you guys going to press that bar, waiting for cheezburger drop? ;)

Whuuuuuuuuuuuuh? There's cheezburgers? Why wasn't I told?



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It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,14:40   

The end of the world will be a fight between Pavlov's dog and Shrodinger's cat! (T. Pratchett)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,14:59   

The Firesign Theatre had a great creation myth (and subsequent scientific explanation):

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“Before the beginning, there was this turtle. And the turtle was alone. And he looked around. And he saw his neighbor, which was his mother, and he lay down on top of his neighbor, and behold, she bore him in tears an oak tree, which grew all day, and then fell over, like a bridge. And lo, under the bridge there came a catfish, and he was very big, and he was walking, and he was the biggest he had seen. And so, with the firey balls of this fish, one of which is the sun, and the other, they called the moon.”

Yes, some uncomplicated peoples still believe this myth. But here in the technical vastness of The Future, we can guess that surely, the past was very different. We know for certain, for instance, that for some reason, for some time in the beginning, there were hot lumps. Cold and lonely, they whirled noiselessly through the black holes of space.

These insignificant lumps came together to form the first union, our sun, the heating system. And about this glowing gas bag, rotated the Earth, a cat’s eye among aggies, blinking in astonishment across the face of time.

Well, we were covered with a molten scum of rocks, bobbing on the surface like rats. Later, when there was less heat, these giant rock groups settled down among the land masses. During this extinct time, our Earth was like a steam room, and no one, not even man, could get in. However, the oceans and the sewers were simmering with a rich protein stew, and the mountains moved in to surround and protect them. They didn’t know then that living as we know it was already taking over.

Animals without backbones hid from each other, or fell down. Clamosaurs and oysterettes appeared as appetizers. Then came the sponges, which sucked up about 10% of all life. Hundreds of years later, in the Late Devouring Period, fish became obnoxious. Trailerbites, chiggerbites, and muskquitoes collided aimlessly in the dense gas. Finally, tiny, edible plants sprang up in rows, giving birth to generations of insecticides and other small, dying creatures.

Millions of months passed, and, 28 days later, the moon appeared. This small change was reflected best, perhaps, in the sand dollar, which shrank to almost nothing at the bottom of the pool, where even dumb amphibians like catfish laid their eggs in the boiling waters, only to be gobbled up every three minutes by the giant sea orphans and jungle bunnies, which scared everybody. And so, IN FEAR AND HOT WATER, MAN IS BORN!!!



KC

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,15:09   

Quote (KCdgw @ Feb. 06 2009,14:59)
The Firesign Theatre had a great creation myth (and subsequent scientific explanation):

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“Before the beginning, there was this turtle. And the turtle was alone. And he looked around. And he saw his neighbor, which was his mother, and he lay down on top of his neighbor, and behold, she bore him in tears an oak tree, which grew all day, and then fell over, like a bridge. And lo, under the bridge there came a catfish, and he was very big, and he was walking, and he was the biggest he had seen. And so, with the firey balls of this fish, one of which is the sun, and the other, they called the moon.”

Yes, some uncomplicated peoples still believe this myth. But here in the technical vastness of The Future, we can guess that surely, the past was very different. We know for certain, for instance, that for some reason, for some time in the beginning, there were hot lumps. Cold and lonely, they whirled noiselessly through the black holes of space.

These insignificant lumps came together to form the first union, our sun, the heating system. And about this glowing gas bag, rotated the Earth, a cat’s eye among aggies, blinking in astonishment across the face of time.

Well, we were covered with a molten scum of rocks, bobbing on the surface like rats. Later, when there was less heat, these giant rock groups settled down among the land masses. During this extinct time, our Earth was like a steam room, and no one, not even man, could get in. However, the oceans and the sewers were simmering with a rich protein stew, and the mountains moved in to surround and protect them. They didn’t know then that living as we know it was already taking over.

Animals without backbones hid from each other, or fell down. Clamosaurs and oysterettes appeared as appetizers. Then came the sponges, which sucked up about 10% of all life. Hundreds of years later, in the Late Devouring Period, fish became obnoxious. Trailerbites, chiggerbites, and muskquitoes collided aimlessly in the dense gas. Finally, tiny, edible plants sprang up in rows, giving birth to generations of insecticides and other small, dying creatures.

Millions of months passed, and, 28 days later, the moon appeared. This small change was reflected best, perhaps, in the sand dollar, which shrank to almost nothing at the bottom of the pool, where even dumb amphibians like catfish laid their eggs in the boiling waters, only to be gobbled up every three minutes by the giant sea orphans and jungle bunnies, which scared everybody. And so, IN FEAR AND HOT WATER, MAN IS BORN!!!



KC

Ok KC, in the light of your post, I can definitely say my myth story makes me a champion loser!

Still, it was worth a try to stray FTK of her skyfairy path...

My stuff has a kind of jebus too, wielding sword and all, like in the buy-bull!


Does that count???

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,15:33   

I like your story, Shroedinger. It's just obviously superstition. For any creation story to be taken seriously, there has to be a turtle in it somewhere.

KC

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,15:35   

Quote (KCdgw @ Feb. 06 2009,15:33)
I like your story, Shroedinger. It's just obviously superstition. For any creation story to be taken seriously, there has to be a turtle in it somewhere.

KC

Damn! I knew I had missed somethin'! Pratchett was right!

It's turtles all the way...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,15:58   

KCdgw wrote:

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For any creation story to be taken seriously, there has to be a turtle in it somewhere.


No offense, but we need to stay within certain limits, IMO.

http://tv-mafia.com/series_....987.jpg

:)    :)    :)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,15:59   

I DID THAT ON PURPOSE

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,17:14   

PIZZA!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,23:13   

Scenes like this, in Kansas of all places, must scare the crap out of the fundies.





They've lost the next generation.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2009,00:53   

Before the beginning, there was this turtle. And the turtle was alone...

don't crush that dwarf....?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2009,06:59   

Quote (rhmc @ Feb. 07 2009,01:53)
Before the beginning, there was this turtle. And the turtle was alone...

don't crush that dwarf....?

That would be Bozos.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2009,08:53   

Would a turtledove do?

Gen 15:9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2009,10:02   

Quote (Nerull @ Feb. 06 2009,23:13)
Scenes like this, in Kansas of all places, must scare the crap out of the fundies.

[ snipped images ]

They've lost the next generation.

More here:
"Hundreds counter Phelps' anti-gay picketers at Shawnee Mission East"

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2009,13:18   

This just in from Topeka:

Intelligent Design = weaknesses of evolution!

FtK wrote:
     
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ID is winning big time in the public square. Screw the hardcore Darwin lover scientists...it won't always be the case that we continue to teach an ideology in the science classroom. Hopefully, at some point in time, much of Darwin's legacy will be shoved over into the philosophy classroom.

The latest Zogby poll (January), linked to above, shows that 78% of US voters favor teaching both strengths and weaknesses of evolution.

FtK also wrote:
     
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Keep up the fight! Looks like the numbers are leaning our way!!!!!!

Yeah...um...not so much:





Those numbers definitely aren't leaning in your favor, FtK.

Link

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2009,13:40   

Wowowowow!

Jasper, are you infering that ftk might be... lying? (insert weird video of groundhog turning towards camera with scarry look and jumpy soundtrack here)

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2009,14:23   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 12 2009,19:40)
Wowowowow!

Jasper, are you infering that ftk might be... lying? (insert weird video of groundhog turning towards camera with scarry look and jumpy soundtrack here)

Not necessarily. There are at least three other options:

1) She's ignorant.

2) She's not very intelligent.

3) She's nucking futs.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2009,14:25   

Quote (Louis @ Feb. 12 2009,21:23)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 12 2009,19:40)
Wowowowow!

Jasper, are you infering that ftk might be... lying? (insert weird video of groundhog turning towards camera with scarry look and jumpy soundtrack here)

Not necessarily. There are at least three other options:

1) She's ignorant.

2) She's not very intelligent.

3) She's nucking futs.

Louis

oohhh! oooohhh!! Can I haz joker?


No?


Aw right, I'll take all three then...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2009,14:34   

Quote (Jasper @ Feb. 12 2009,13:18)


Those numbers definitely aren't leaning in your favor, FtK.

Link

Wow - this is cool.  Check out the acceptance/rejection by education level.

The highest level of evo rejection is from those who have some college, but didn't finish.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing?  Does just *attending* college make a person more likely to arrogantly dismiss conflicting knowledge, as compared with actually finishing college or going on for graduate work?

AFAICT, Jasper wasn't inferring/implying that FtK was any of those three options . . . s/he was just encouraging us to follow the evidence where it leads!  :)  :)  :)

edited for idiotic grammar mistake

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2009,14:38   

And that Zogby poll?  It's been fisked before, when Zogby (again commissioned by the DI) used the same questions skewed statements to elicit responses.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2009,14:49   

Quote (csadams @ Feb. 12 2009,21:34)
Quote (Jasper @ Feb. 12 2009,13:18)


Those numbers definitely aren't leaning in your favor, FtK.

Link

Wow - this is cool.  Check out the acceptance/rejection by education level.

The highest level of evo rejection is from those who have a some college, but didn't finish.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing?  Does just *attending* college make a person more likely to arrogantly dismiss conflicting knowledge, as compared with actually finishing college or going on for graduate work?

AFAICT, Jasper wasn't inferring/implying that FtK was any of those three options . . . s/he was just encouraging us to follow the evidence where it leads!  :)  :)  :)

I'd beg to differ on your last assumption:

AFAIK, and given a synthetical reading of this thread from page 1 to 177 so far in less than a month, I have come to the conclusion that ftk is not only the three proposed options, but also a whole oodleplex of other not-so-nice-yet-very-accurate definitions.

As for the graphs, let's all just admit that college students are slackers!  :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2009,15:32   

HeroIR wrote:

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Would a turtledove do?


I dunno, would a turtledove do what?

:)       :)      :)       :)

  
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