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Learned Hand



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,02:14   

Oh god, I forgot about the sustaing spittle-flinging freakout over the vampire thing. An image in a music video or something? He does have a signature style. I'd love to see his take on rock 'n roll generally.

Onlookers, pardon the need for a much-needed and unfortunately necessary digression that is needed at this time to point out an unnecessary but unfortunately prevalent trend that is creeping up on and beginning, with evident malice aforethought, to poison the youth of today. The musical stylings of antiquity, indeed going so far back as Pythagoras and the "music of the spheres" as a prelude to music as commonly thought of by the great minds of our culture and their preference for largely liturgical music in opposition to more immediately gratifying but ultimately toxic aural indulgences, were highly rooted in what can be thought of as the best of moral, mental, and spiritual practices (as can be seen and distinguished from those practices of Soviet Communist musicians and politicians, even those who profess an attachment, however discreditable, to more traditional (some would say classical) music) that nourished the mind and soul in the finest Christian tradition. Now, though, I see young people being captured by an insidious type of "music" that is designed, with every indication of this design being as deliberate, intentional, and intelligent as the design behind a Fishfiddler 2000™ hyper-accurate alloy bearing long-throw light-weight rotary-bearing hand-forged fly reel with a compass in the stock or indeed even the design behind the divine creation of man himself, although obviously without implying that this musical creation is divine, to ensnare teen-agers with beats that go far beyond their capacity to appreciate or tolerate. These beats are so beyond the pale, so Alinskyite and Marxist in nature, that they are DELIBERATELY TIED TO THE MOTION OF A MAN'S HIPS in a way that is indisputable intended to generate lascivious thoughts in any and all who view such lewd performances. And because these performances are performed in performance halls and such like venues as concert halls, music halls, and even opera halls and therefore may be not infrequently transmitted by satellite, ironically through the non-material and divine heavens, even respectable church-going men may be obligated from time to time to view such performances, or even to scrutinize them carefully over a period of hours to carefully chart the precise gyrations and the implications such gyrations have to vulcanistics and island parliamentary torts that cannot be said to be unconnected to such material twists and shouts (the evo-mat premise to the contrary being thoroughly discredited by Lewontin, as described above and elsewhere and forever). Please look to your music and note that you have been duly warned that it is unacceptable and full to overflowing with poisonous rhetoric that is unhinged and unsafe and can no longer be tolerated lest necessary corrective action be taken against all those who would seek to control their neighbors' choice of music. BYDAND.

  
Soapy Sam



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,04:40   

The Fishfiddler 2000? :D

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,07:53   

Quote (Learned Hand @ April 26 2015,10:14)
Oh god, I forgot about the sustaing spittle-flinging freakout over the vampire thing. An image in a music video or something? He does have a signature style. I'd love to see his take on rock 'n roll generally.

Onlookers, pardon the need for a much-needed and unfortunately necessary digression that is needed at this time to point out an unnecessary but unfortunately prevalent trend that is creeping up on and beginning, with evident malice aforethought, to poison the youth of today. The musical stylings of antiquity, indeed going so far back as Pythagoras and the "music of the spheres" as a prelude to music as commonly thought of by the great minds of our culture and their preference for largely liturgical music in opposition to more immediately gratifying but ultimately toxic aural indulgences, were highly rooted in what can be thought of as the best of moral, mental, and spiritual practices (as can be seen and distinguished from those practices of Soviet Communist musicians and politicians, even those who profess an attachment, however discreditable, to more traditional (some would say classical) music) that nourished the mind and soul in the finest Christian tradition. Now, though, I see young people being captured by an insidious type of "music" that is designed, with every indication of this design being as deliberate, intentional, and intelligent as the design behind a Fishfiddler 2000™ hyper-accurate alloy bearing long-throw light-weight rotary-bearing hand-forged fly reel with a compass in the stock or indeed even the design behind the divine creation of man himself, although obviously without implying that this musical creation is divine, to ensnare teen-agers with beats that go far beyond their capacity to appreciate or tolerate. These beats are so beyond the pale, so Alinskyite and Marxist in nature, that they are DELIBERATELY TIED TO THE MOTION OF A MAN'S HIPS in a way that is indisputable intended to generate lascivious thoughts in any and all who view such lewd performances. And because these performances are performed in performance halls and such like venues as concert halls, music halls, and even opera halls and therefore may be not infrequently transmitted by satellite, ironically through the non-material and divine heavens, even respectable church-going men may be obligated from time to time to view such performances, or even to scrutinize them carefully over a period of hours to carefully chart the precise gyrations and the implications such gyrations have to vulcanistics and island parliamentary torts that cannot be said to be unconnected to such material twists and shouts (the evo-mat premise to the contrary being thoroughly discredited by Lewontin, as described above and elsewhere and forever). Please look to your music and note that you have been duly warned that it is unacceptable and full to overflowing with poisonous rhetoric that is unhinged and unsafe and can no longer be tolerated lest necessary corrective action be taken against all those who would seek to control their neighbors' choice of music. BYDAND.

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,09:27   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2015,01:41)
Quote (sparc @ April 26 2015,01:08)
Quote (Learned Hand @ April 25 2015,23:48)

I’m also baffled at what “a tort that took advantage of parliamentary immunity” is.
You'll find his personal views on this issue at The Montserrat Reporter online.

This thread was in the comments:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism....-417376

KF is unhinged, and lacks any sort of self awareness.

He even starts his victimization article with a paraphrase of Rosevelt's speech when he announced that the US was at war with Japan.

If I can interpret this little rant, he was furious that a member of parliament was questioning the sole sourcing of contracts by the government and used Gordo's name as one of the sole source contracts. How this would be considered libellous I don't know. I assume that awarded contracts are part of the public record.

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,09:32   

Quote (Learned Hand @ April 26 2015,02:14)
Oh god, I forgot about the sustaing spittle-flinging freakout over the vampire thing. An image in a music video or something? He does have a signature style. I'd love to see his take on rock 'n roll generally.

Onlookers, pardon the need for a much-needed and unfortunately necessary digression that is needed at this time to point out an unnecessary but unfortunately prevalent trend that is creeping up on and beginning, with evident malice aforethought, to poison the youth of today. The musical stylings of antiquity, indeed going so far back as Pythagoras and the "music of the spheres" as a prelude to music as commonly thought of by the great minds of our culture and their preference for largely liturgical music in opposition to more immediately gratifying but ultimately toxic aural indulgences, were highly rooted in what can be thought of as the best of moral, mental, and spiritual practices (as can be seen and distinguished from those practices of Soviet Communist musicians and politicians, even those who profess an attachment, however discreditable, to more traditional (some would say classical) music) that nourished the mind and soul in the finest Christian tradition. Now, though, I see young people being captured by an insidious type of "music" that is designed, with every indication of this design being as deliberate, intentional, and intelligent as the design behind a Fishfiddler 2000™ hyper-accurate alloy bearing long-throw light-weight rotary-bearing hand-forged fly reel with a compass in the stock or indeed even the design behind the divine creation of man himself, although obviously without implying that this musical creation is divine, to ensnare teen-agers with beats that go far beyond their capacity to appreciate or tolerate. These beats are so beyond the pale, so Alinskyite and Marxist in nature, that they are DELIBERATELY TIED TO THE MOTION OF A MAN'S HIPS in a way that is indisputable intended to generate lascivious thoughts in any and all who view such lewd performances. And because these performances are performed in performance halls and such like venues as concert halls, music halls, and even opera halls and therefore may be not infrequently transmitted by satellite, ironically through the non-material and divine heavens, even respectable church-going men may be obligated from time to time to view such performances, or even to scrutinize them carefully over a period of hours to carefully chart the precise gyrations and the implications such gyrations have to vulcanistics and island parliamentary torts that cannot be said to be unconnected to such material twists and shouts (the evo-mat premise to the contrary being thoroughly discredited by Lewontin, as described above and elsewhere and forever). Please look to your music and note that you have been duly warned that it is unacceptable and full to overflowing with poisonous rhetoric that is unhinged and unsafe and can no longer be tolerated lest necessary corrective action be taken against all those who would seek to control their neighbors' choice of music. BYDAND.

Oh my god! KairosFocus is just a sock puppet for Learned Hand.

  
Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,10:58   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 26 2015,01:41)
Quote (sparc @ April 26 2015,01:08)
Quote (Learned Hand @ April 25 2015,23:48)

I’m also baffled at what “a tort that took advantage of parliamentary immunity” is.
You'll find his personal views on this issue at The Montserrat Reporter online.

This thread was in the comments:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/atheism....-417376

KF is unhinged, and lacks any sort of self awareness.

I thought that this could show some self-awareness:

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What follows is doubtless painful, which I regret, but we need to lance the boil before it poisons the blood.


Yes, it is a painful rant.

Trouble is, I don't think he understands why.

Glen Davidson

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Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,11:31   

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Predictable atmosphere-poisoning turnabout accusation to distract attention from the indefensible.


Best said with a Dalek voice.

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,11:52   

Quote (Woodbine @ April 26 2015,11:31)
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Predictable atmosphere-poisoning turnabout accusation to distract attention from the indefensible.


Best said with a Dalek voice.

Actually all of Gordo's incoherent ranting a can be summarized in the immortal words of the Borg:

"Resistance is futile".

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,12:39   

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(much pearl clutching, then..) These beats are so beyond the pale, so Alinskyite and Marxist in nature, that they are DELIBERATELY TIED TO THE MOTION OF A MAN'S HIPS in a way that is indisputable intended to generate lascivious thoughts in any and all who view such lewd performances. (pearl clutching continues...)


TL/DR version from The League of Gentlemen:

 
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Rock and roll is about fucking.


It's also about a woman's hips, Gordo. Now why didn't you think of that, do you suppose?

eta: I suppose he believes he's continuing the tradition of Plato's Republic but he just sounds more like that fundy loon Bob Larson

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,22:42   

Barry is again resorting to inserting comments into other people's comments. And this isn't even in one of his OPs. In this case it is in one of Elizabeth Liddle's comments. Comment 407.

Can a banination be far off?

  
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2015,23:16   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 26 2015,22:42)
Barry is again resorting to inserting comments into other people's comments. And this isn't even in one of his OPs. In this case it is in one of Elizabeth Liddle's comments. Comment 407.

Can a banination be far off?

Banny Arrogant's latest ID "defense"

 
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UDEditors: We agree to differ because you have presented no evidence, no argument, no mechanism.


Damn if Banny hasn't decided to adopt JokeTard Gallien's favorite tactic - never support your own ID claims, just scream that your side has no evidence!  :p

Fuckwits like Arrogant, KF, Batshit77 and JokeG deserve each other.

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,02:54   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 26 2015,09:32)
Quote (Learned Hand @ April 26 2015,02:14)
Oh god, I forgot about the sustaing spittle-flinging freakout over the vampire thing. An image in a music video or something? He does have a signature style. I'd love to see his take on rock 'n roll generally.

Onlookers, pardon the need for a much-needed and unfortunately necessary digression that is needed at this time to point out an unnecessary but unfortunately prevalent trend that is creeping up on and beginning, with evident malice aforethought, to poison the youth of today. The musical stylings of antiquity, indeed going so far back as Pythagoras and the "music of the spheres" as a prelude to music as commonly thought of by the great minds of our culture and their preference for largely liturgical music in opposition to more immediately gratifying but ultimately toxic aural indulgences, were highly rooted in what can be thought of as the best of moral, mental, and spiritual practices (as can be seen and distinguished from those practices of Soviet Communist musicians and politicians, even those who profess an attachment, however discreditable, to more traditional (some would say classical) music) that nourished the mind and soul in the finest Christian tradition. Now, though, I see young people being captured by an insidious type of "music" that is designed, with every indication of this design being as deliberate, intentional, and intelligent as the design behind a Fishfiddler 2000™ hyper-accurate alloy bearing long-throw light-weight rotary-bearing hand-forged fly reel with a compass in the stock or indeed even the design behind the divine creation of man himself, although obviously without implying that this musical creation is divine, to ensnare teen-agers with beats that go far beyond their capacity to appreciate or tolerate. These beats are so beyond the pale, so Alinskyite and Marxist in nature, that they are DELIBERATELY TIED TO THE MOTION OF A MAN'S HIPS in a way that is indisputable intended to generate lascivious thoughts in any and all who view such lewd performances. And because these performances are performed in performance halls and such like venues as concert halls, music halls, and even opera halls and therefore may be not infrequently transmitted by satellite, ironically through the non-material and divine heavens, even respectable church-going men may be obligated from time to time to view such performances, or even to scrutinize them carefully over a period of hours to carefully chart the precise gyrations and the implications such gyrations have to vulcanistics and island parliamentary torts that cannot be said to be unconnected to such material twists and shouts (the evo-mat premise to the contrary being thoroughly discredited by Lewontin, as described above and elsewhere and forever). Please look to your music and note that you have been duly warned that it is unacceptable and full to overflowing with poisonous rhetoric that is unhinged and unsafe and can no longer be tolerated lest necessary corrective action be taken against all those who would seek to control their neighbors' choice of music. BYDAND.

Oh my god! KairosFocus is just a sock puppet for Learned Hand.

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KevinB



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,07:57   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 26 2015,09:32)
 
Quote (Learned Hand @ April 26 2015,02:14)
Oh god, I forgot about the sustaing spittle-flinging freakout over the vampire thing. An image in a music video or something? He does have a signature style. I'd love to see his take on rock 'n roll generally.

Onlookers, pardon the need for a much-needed and unfortunately necessary digression that is needed at this time to point out an unnecessary but unfortunately prevalent trend that is creeping up on and beginning, with evident malice aforethought, to poison the youth of today. The musical stylings of antiquity, indeed going so far back as Pythagoras and the "music of the spheres" as a prelude to music as commonly thought of by the great minds of our culture and their preference for largely liturgical music in opposition to more immediately gratifying but ultimately toxic aural indulgences, were highly rooted in what can be thought of as the best of moral, mental, and spiritual practices (as can be seen and distinguished from those practices of Soviet Communist musicians and politicians, even those who profess an attachment, however discreditable, to more traditional (some would say classical) music) that nourished the mind and soul in the finest Christian tradition. Now, though, I see young people being captured by an insidious type of "music" that is designed, with every indication of this design being as deliberate, intentional, and intelligent as the design behind a Fishfiddler 2000™ hyper-accurate alloy bearing long-throw light-weight rotary-bearing hand-forged fly reel with a compass in the stock or indeed even the design behind the divine creation of man himself, although obviously without implying that this musical creation is divine, to ensnare teen-agers with beats that go far beyond their capacity to appreciate or tolerate. These beats are so beyond the pale, so Alinskyite and Marxist in nature, that they are DELIBERATELY TIED TO THE MOTION OF A MAN'S HIPS in a way that is indisputable intended to generate lascivious thoughts in any and all who view such lewd performances. And because these performances are performed in performance halls and such like venues as concert halls, music halls, and even opera halls and therefore may be not infrequently transmitted by satellite, ironically through the non-material and divine heavens, even respectable church-going men may be obligated from time to time to view such performances, or even to scrutinize them carefully over a period of hours to carefully chart the precise gyrations and the implications such gyrations have to vulcanistics and island parliamentary torts that cannot be said to be unconnected to such material twists and shouts (the evo-mat premise to the contrary being thoroughly discredited by Lewontin, as described above and elsewhere and forever). Please look to your music and note that you have been duly warned that it is unacceptable and full to overflowing with poisonous rhetoric that is unhinged and unsafe and can no longer be tolerated lest necessary corrective action be taken against all those who would seek to control their neighbors' choice of music. BYDAND.

Oh my god! KairosFocus is just a sock puppet for Learned Hand.

Actually, I rather think that with a bit of practice LH would do quite well on Just A Minute.

On the other hand (ie not LH) while I don't know about the hesitation, KF couldn't get past the first URL without repetition, and as for the deviation......

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,11:00   

Truthbringer is going out in a blaze of glory.  Reproduced in full before it gets Barryfied:
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I have tried to be only slightly involved in this thread but now I feel that I must say more. As I said before, kairosfocus’s attitude and behavior are deplorable but just as deplorable are the enabling and encouragement of his attitude and behavior by other IDers including Barry Arrington, the “President” of this hate-site. kairosfocus’s rants and accusations in this thread and many others are unsubstantiated, hateful, irrelevant, distractive, libelous, and hypocritical, yet not even one other IDer has asked him for any evidence that explains and supports his numerous hateful accusations, let alone convincing and complete evidence, and that goes to the core of what is wrong with the members of the ID agenda. Unsubstantiated, erroneous assertions and accusations are constantly put forth, automatically accepted, angrily defended, and zealously promoted by IDers. Virtually nothing is questioned, challenged, chastised, or deleted no matter how outrageous it is, as long as it is asserted by another IDer.

Whether it is kairosfocus’s unhinged tirades, the rudeness and crudeness of Joe-Mung-Mapou (Are they the same person?) and other IDers, the spam tsunamis by bornagain77, the TLDR speeches by vjtorley, the constant attacks by all IDers on materialists, atheists, evolutionists, Darwinists, naturalists and other labels that are applied to the opposition (usually inaccurately), the claims by IDers that evolution didn’t and can’t do this or that, the endless repetition of thoroughly refuted claims, or the censorship on this site, ENV and others, ALL of it is just unsubstantiated assertions, pseudo science, self-righteous sermons, religious proselytizing, diversionary tactics, and malicious accusations, and none of it provides any positive, scientific evidence to support what IDers actually believe and are dishonestly trying (unsuccessfully) to hide behind a mask of sciency sounding nonsense, and of course that belief is that a supernatural being they call “God” created and manipulates everything or most things (whichever is convenient for their assertions at the time).

The lack of honesty, integrity, rationality, courage, decency, and self-awareness in IDers never ceases to amaze me. For speaking out I will very likely be banned and then called a coward and other derogatory names for not responding, as that is the typical modus operandi for this site. In a fair fight you IDers don’t have a chance and you know it.


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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,11:11   

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Truthbringer is going out in a blaze of glory.  Reproduced in full before it gets Barryfied:
 
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I have tried to be only slightly involved in this thread but now I feel that I must say more. As I said before, kairosfocus’s attitude and behavior are deplorable but just as deplorable are the enabling and encouragement of his attitude and behavior by other IDers including Barry Arrington, the “President” of this hate-site. kairosfocus’s rants and accusations in this thread and many others are unsubstantiated, hateful, irrelevant, distractive, libelous, and hypocritical, yet not even one other IDer has asked him for any evidence that explains and supports his numerous hateful accusations, let alone convincing and complete evidence, and that goes to the core of what is wrong with the members of the ID agenda. Unsubstantiated, erroneous assertions and accusations are constantly put forth, automatically accepted, angrily defended, and zealously promoted by IDers. Virtually nothing is questioned, challenged, chastised, or deleted no matter how outrageous it is, as long as it is asserted by another IDer.

Whether it is kairosfocus’s unhinged tirades, the rudeness and crudeness of Joe-Mung-Mapou (Are they the same person?) and other IDers, the spam tsunamis by bornagain77, the TLDR speeches by vjtorley, the constant attacks by all IDers on materialists, atheists, evolutionists, Darwinists, naturalists and other labels that are applied to the opposition (usually inaccurately), the claims by IDers that evolution didn’t and can’t do this or that, the endless repetition of thoroughly refuted claims, or the censorship on this site, ENV and others, ALL of it is just unsubstantiated assertions, pseudo science, self-righteous sermons, religious proselytizing, diversionary tactics, and malicious accusations, and none of it provides any positive, scientific evidence to support what IDers actually believe and are dishonestly trying (unsuccessfully) to hide behind a mask of sciency sounding nonsense, and of course that belief is that a supernatural being they call “God” created and manipulates everything or most things (whichever is convenient for their assertions at the time).

The lack of honesty, integrity, rationality, courage, decency, and self-awareness in IDers never ceases to amaze me. For speaking out I will very likely be banned and then called a coward and other derogatory names for not responding, as that is the typical modus operandi for this site. In a fair fight you IDers don’t have a chance and you know it.

Truthbringer is almost certainly TheWholeTruth from ATBC. The guy may be pro-science but he also has pretty severe psychological issues, especially with his anger and his obsession with KF.

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,14:18   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 27 2015,11:11)
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Truthbringer is going out in a blaze of glory.  Reproduced in full before it gets Barryfied:
   
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I have tried to be only slightly involved in this thread but now I feel that I must say more. As I said before, kairosfocus’s attitude and behavior are deplorable but just as deplorable are the enabling and encouragement of his attitude and behavior by other IDers including Barry Arrington, the “President” of this hate-site. kairosfocus’s rants and accusations in this thread and many others are unsubstantiated, hateful, irrelevant, distractive, libelous, and hypocritical, yet not even one other IDer has asked him for any evidence that explains and supports his numerous hateful accusations, let alone convincing and complete evidence, and that goes to the core of what is wrong with the members of the ID agenda. Unsubstantiated, erroneous assertions and accusations are constantly put forth, automatically accepted, angrily defended, and zealously promoted by IDers. Virtually nothing is questioned, challenged, chastised, or deleted no matter how outrageous it is, as long as it is asserted by another IDer.

Whether it is kairosfocus’s unhinged tirades, the rudeness and crudeness of Joe-Mung-Mapou (Are they the same person?) and other IDers, the spam tsunamis by bornagain77, the TLDR speeches by vjtorley, the constant attacks by all IDers on materialists, atheists, evolutionists, Darwinists, naturalists and other labels that are applied to the opposition (usually inaccurately), the claims by IDers that evolution didn’t and can’t do this or that, the endless repetition of thoroughly refuted claims, or the censorship on this site, ENV and others, ALL of it is just unsubstantiated assertions, pseudo science, self-righteous sermons, religious proselytizing, diversionary tactics, and malicious accusations, and none of it provides any positive, scientific evidence to support what IDers actually believe and are dishonestly trying (unsuccessfully) to hide behind a mask of sciency sounding nonsense, and of course that belief is that a supernatural being they call “God” created and manipulates everything or most things (whichever is convenient for their assertions at the time).

The lack of honesty, integrity, rationality, courage, decency, and self-awareness in IDers never ceases to amaze me. For speaking out I will very likely be banned and then called a coward and other derogatory names for not responding, as that is the typical modus operandi for this site. In a fair fight you IDers don’t have a chance and you know it.

Truthbringer is almost certainly TheWholeTruth from ATBC. The guy may be pro-science but he also has pretty severe psychological issues, especially with his anger and his obsession with KF.

Given this follow-up post, I have to agree with you. Is it possible that THT has as big a persecution complex as Gordo?
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kf, you’re full of it. You’ve got NOTHING to report to “the local authorities” or any other “authorities”. You’re just making up all of your malicious accusations and you know it, I know it, and lots of other people know it.

Didn’t the “President” of this hate-site recently say that assertions aren’t evidence? All you’ve got are assertions, Gordon, and they’re all lies. They’re just a part of the childish professional victim game you play to make it look as though you’re a persecuted messiah like the imaginary character jesus. You poor thing. LOL

Your cowardly leader, “President” Arrington, deleted my last comment and others will likely soon follow. Why are you IDers such cowards? You’re terrified to face reality out in the open. You obviously believe that you’re winning some sort of victory here in your sanctuarial echo chamber but you’re just making fools of yourselves and showing the “onlookers” how corrupt and gutless you are.

Now, Gordon, go and type several thousand more words filled with lies and FIASCO gibberish, and convince yourself that you’re a super hero. I’ll be laughing my ass off.

Gordon Mullings is a pompous, self-important, arrogant, ego-maniac. But he is basically harmless. The only people that take him seriously (but maybe they don't either) are the geniuses at UD. But this sort of attack goes beyond the pale.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,19:02   

Acartia:    
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Gordon Mullings is a pompous, self-important, arrogant, ego-maniac. But he is basically harmless.

That depends on Montserrat's gun laws.  If they're as lax and irresponsible as those in the U.S., then we could have quite a tragedy when Mt. Saint Mullins finally blows.

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,19:47   



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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,20:03   

Who would have thought that calling Barry a pompous arrogant buffoon would get you banned from UD? So much for my social experiment.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,20:48   

Banny Arrogant with his latest "gotcha" challenge:

   
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I have a question for non-ID proponents only and it is very simple: Is there even one tenant of modern evolutionary theory that is universally agreed upon by the proponents of modern evolutionary theory

Oooh!  Oooh!  Pick me!  Pick me!

How about "humans and chimps share a common ancestor"?  :)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,20:58   

Quote (GinoB @ April 27 2015,20:48)
Banny Arrogant with his latest "gotcha" challenge:

   
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I have a question for non-ID proponents only and it is very simple: Is there even one tenant of modern evolutionary theory that is universally agreed upon by the proponents of modern evolutionary theory

Oooh!  Oooh!  Pick me!  Pick me!

How about "humans and chimps share a common ancestor"?  :)

How many tenants can one fit into an evolutionary theory?

Plus, how much rent do they pay?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,21:05   

Quote (GinoB @ April 27 2015,20:48)
Banny Arrogant with his latest "gotcha" challenge:

   
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I have a question for non-ID proponents only and it is very simple: Is there even one tenant of modern evolutionary theory that is universally agreed upon by the proponents of modern evolutionary theory

Oooh!  Oooh!  Pick me!  Pick me!

How about "humans and chimps share a common ancestor"?  :)

This is an easy question for Banny to ask. He bans every ID opponent and then limits the question to ID opponents. Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2015,22:25   

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Acartia:    
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Gordon Mullings is a pompous, self-important, arrogant, ego-maniac. But he is basically harmless.

That depends on Montserrat's gun laws.  If they're as lax and irresponsible as those in the U.S., then we could have quite a tragedy when Mt. Saint Mullins finally blows.

Yes, he's a jumped-up nobody with delusions of grandeur which can be seen from space, but "basically harmless" is going too far.  I wouldn't like to be the gay kid next door, for instance.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2015,16:25   

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Quote (CeilingCat @ April 27 2015,17:02)
Acartia:      
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Gordon Mullings is a pompous, self-important, arrogant, ego-maniac. But he is basically harmless.

That depends on Montserrat's gun laws.  If they're as lax and irresponsible as those in the U.S., then we could have quite a tragedy when Mt. Saint Mullins finally blows.

Yes, he's a jumped-up nobody with delusions of grandeur which can be seen from space, but "basically harmless" is going too far.  I wouldn't like to be the gay kid next door, for instance.

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 I wouldn't like to be the gay kid next door, for instance.


I'm thinking that Mr. Gordon "Solid Christian Gay Is Teh Bad Says So In Teh Good Book" Mullins... would be VERY interested in the gay kid next door... If you know what I mean.  And I think you do...

And then when it all comes out - pray, cry and blame The Devil Darwin.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2015,18:13   

The Whole Truth:
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kairosfocus, I see that you still haven’t provided any evidence to support your accusations and that you’re still dishing out and magnifying your libelous lies and false accusations, including this one: “trumpeting of remote connexions not accessible online indicates likely on the ground stalking”.

Mr. Arrington and other IDers, are you interested in the truth? Are you interested in whether Gordon Mullings (kairosfocus) can support his accusations? Are you interested in finding out if you’re enabling and encouraging ridiculous, libelous accusations? Are you interested in whether Gordon is bluffing and blustering?...


And he goes on.

What is interesting is that Barry, for whatever reason, is allowing TWT to continue posting his hate filled nonsense against Mullings, but bans someone who is critical of his (Barry's) behaviour. Or, maybe, it's not strange at all.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2015,18:37   

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What is interesting is that Barry, for whatever reason, is allowing TWT to continue posting his hate filled nonsense against Mullings, but bans someone who is critical of his (Barry's) behaviour. Or, maybe, it's not strange at all.

Perhaps spoken too soon:
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TB has been shown the exit.


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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2015,20:37   

I know they're all single digit IQ nitwits over at the Dense Farm but you'd still think one of them would tell attention whore Joke Gallien to STFU with his "there is no theory of evolution".  Especially in thread started by their Fearless Leader specifically asking about modern evolutionary theory.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2015,21:38   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 28 2015,20:37)
I know they're all single digit IQ nitwits over at the Dense Farm but you'd still think one of them would tell attention whore Joke Gallien to STFU with his "there is no theory of evolution".  Especially in thread started by their Fearless Leader specifically asking about modern evolutionary theory.

But it is a change from his "natural selection is impotent" or "unguided evolution can't get past prokaryotes, given prokaryotes as the starting point" lines.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2015,02:49   

Haha - Recip Bill having a bit of fun with Mapou:
   
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Mapou:

   
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   There is no dissent within Darwinism against the stupid dogma that everything evolved all by itself. There may be squabbles concerning mechanisms but nobody is allowed to talk about design or creation.


Of course, anyone maintaining that view would not be “within Darwinism.” It’s a sharp observation, though. Similarly, it has always bothered me that there are no red things that are green. (I wonder: how do they enforce that so effectively?)

But your answer doesn’t go to my question. Are you saying that, “Darwinism is rigidly enforced within the academy, as well as within the scientific community, with no tolerance for dissent” is NOT a prominent theme in the UD narrative?

UD link, my bolding

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(Permalink) Posted: April 29 2015,03:40   

Quote (Ptaylor @ April 29 2015,08:49)
Haha - Recip Bill having a bit of fun with Mapou:
     
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Reciprocating BillApril 28, 2015 at 8:50 pm

Mapou:

     
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   There is no dissent within Darwinism against the stupid dogma that everything evolved all by itself. There may be squabbles concerning mechanisms but nobody is allowed to talk about design or creation.


Of course, anyone maintaining that view would not be “within Darwinism.” It’s a sharp observation, though. Similarly, it has always bothered me that there are no red things that are green. (I wonder: how do they enforce that so effectively?)

But your answer doesn’t go to my question. Are you saying that, “Darwinism is rigidly enforced within the academy, as well as within the scientific community, with no tolerance for dissent” is NOT a prominent theme in the UD narrative?

UD link, my bolding

Ha! Foolish dupe of the Red/Green Plot!

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
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