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Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 08 2006,21:25    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Nov. 08 2006,18:02) It's called Hurling, and is played mainly in Ireland. Not to be confused with 'hurling' (small h), another Irish pastime practiced at 2 A.M. outside most pubs.   I need to see more of that on ESPN! uh... both varieties, if possible. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Seizure Salad Posts: 60 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,00:47    DaveScot is right to be grumpier than usual. The midterms are already affecting ID. Two more nails in the coffin.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,02:01    You know, considering that half the public supports creationism, and most of the other half doesn't care, you'd expect it to be an easy task to jam it into the classroom. But it's not, and that's due to liberal yet undemocratic institutions like the judiciary, the senate, the professoriat, and the constitution. For a good explanation of why democratic societies utterly depend on undemocratic yet liberal institutions, I recommend Fareed Zakaria's The Future of Freedom. By the way, that's an extremely clear and approachable book. Zakaria is the clearest writer I know, maybe tied with William Langewiesche, my all-time-favorite non-fiction writer. In this respect, Zakaria is the anti-Dembski. He writes especially clearly, whereas Dembski writes in a deliberately ornate and complex style, in order to sound all authoritative and smart-like. And Dembski obviously is clever, which is why I'm assured that of all the ID proponents, he's the only one who knows it's a fraud.

keiths Posts: 2195 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,02:54    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Nov. 08 2006,16:41) Hmmm. I think Dave's just in a bad mood because the GOP got skunked last night. Davey's hurting for sure: Quote “If Bush gets one or two more Supreme Court Justices, we’ll have Intelligent Design in the classroom.” Yeah baby! Blame me. I voted for Bush. Twice. Three times if you count the father too. Five times if you count his father as Reagan’s VP. Oh man, make that seven times if you count voting for GW as Governor of Texas. Go W! Freud, Marx, and Darwin. The three pillars of western modernism. Two down, one to go. Comment by DaveScot — May 2, 2005 @ 5:24 pm Quote Correction. Eight times. I voted for Bush senior for president twice. Smack me upside the head for forgetting he didn’t win one of those times. Picking the winner 7 of 8 times ain’t half bad! Check my math there, Bill. Not half bad, right? Comment by DaveScot — May 2, 2005 @ 5:28 pm http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/35#comment-100 -------------- And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

Mike PSS Posts: 428 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,09:48    Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 08 2006,17:36) Quote (steve_h @ Nov. 08 2006,16:32) Soccer (which we call "cricket" in England) seems to crop up quite often. God must be a fan. I'd love to see a soccer match played with cricket bats... Like Hockey, but with more blood. Cool. This would actually be Woman's Field Hockey.  The most vicious game I've ever witnessed.  I've seen Rugby players cringe when watching one of these events.

Mike PSS Posts: 428 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,09:59    Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 08 2006,17:48) Down with the kids. hip like dem. word. Churchy types attempts at 'cool' are always good: http://www.dltk-bible.com/jesus_rap.htm Ooooops.... I wonder if these people really want to associate their rap with the actual singer?  And everything he stood for?

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,10:03    He dressed shockingly badly for a Gay fella. More 'borat' than trendy. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

jujuquisp Posts: 129 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,10:25    If I were gay, Freddy Mercury could have sex with me anytime.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,10:26    Quote (jujuquisp @ Nov. 09 2006,10:25) If I were gay, Freddy Mercury could have sex with me anytime. Probably don't want traces of mercury in your blood. Play safe. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,10:53    Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 09 2006,10:03) He dressed shockingly badly for a Gay fella. More 'borat' than trendy. (To the tune of Sinatra's 'It was a Very Good Year': ) When I was 17, I bought some very good beer, I bought some very good beer, I purchased with a fake ID My name was Brian McGhee, I stayed up listening to Queen, when I was seventeen... -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,11:43    'Kinnel. Quote Denyse O’Leary’s new blog: The Mindful Hack by O'Leary on November 9th, 2006 · No Comments Check out my new blog on the neuroscience issues that border on the intelligent design controversy, the Mindful Hack: First two stories: 1. Blindness: Spiritual blindness worse than physical? 2. Sigmund Freud … fallen so far and so fast? Note: The Post-Darwinist will continue as before, and I will continue to contribute to this and all blogs I am not locked out of. Mindful Hack tracks my latest co-authored book, The Spiritual Brain (co-authored with Montreal neuroscientist Mario Beauregard), currently in copy editing. Denyse is the winner of quantity x shitness. next week she's going to adress.. 3. Are fifteen crap blogs equal to one good one? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Mike PSS Posts: 428 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,13:28    Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 09 2006,11:03) He dressed shockingly badly for a Gay fella. More 'borat' than trendy. Wwwwhhhhaaattt?? The slightly oily/sweaty, shirtless, poly-pants, tennis-shoes, velvet cape with matching crown look is now out of fashion? This fashion stuff changes too fast. Damm, now I need a new warddrobe.

Bebbo Posts: 161 Joined: Dec. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,14:30    Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 09 2006,11:43) 'Kinnel. Quote Denyse O’Leary’s new blog: The Mindful Hack by O'Leary on November 9th, 2006 · No Comments Check out my new blog on the neuroscience issues that border on the intelligent design controversy, the Mindful Hack: First two stories: 1. Blindness: Spiritual blindness worse than physical? 2. Sigmund Freud … fallen so far and so fast? Note: The Post-Darwinist will continue as before, and I will continue to contribute to this and all blogs I am not locked out of. Mindful Hack tracks my latest co-authored book, The Spiritual Brain (co-authored with Montreal neuroscientist Mario Beauregard), currently in copy editing. Denyse is the winner of quantity x shitness. next week she's going to adress.. 3. Are fifteen crap blogs equal to one good one? Looks like she still hasn't actually read "The Selfish Gene" even though she's still spreading the lie that it means we're robot vehicles.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,15:30    http://www.researchintelligentdesign.org/wiki....=theory Quote Search results From ResearchID.org For query "theory" Jump to: navigation, search There is no page titled ":theory". You can create this page. For more information about searching ResearchID.org, see Searching ResearchID.org. Showing below up to 20 results starting with #1. Bwahahahaha -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,16:07    a not so bright Church Lady asked: Quote 1. Blindness: Spiritual blindness worse than physical? How stupid is that?  Ask a blind man how he feels on the subject, Church Lady. -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,17:02    Oh Davetard... http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/1647#comment-75056 Quote 50. DaveScot // Nov 9th 2006 at 5:44 pm If you can’t know a) if you’ve modeled the probabilities accurately (or eve that you’re close), and b) what mechanisms or phenomena might “pop up” unexpectedly and provide a naturalistic explanation (see: quasars in the 60s) then what good is the inference? We use the same probability models that NeoDarwinian evolution uses so we should be at least as confident as those. How do we know that something new might not pop up that throws NeoDarwinian theory in the crapper? Or germ theory? Or any other bit of science? It’s all tentative. Do you understand that all science is tentative? Comment by DaveScot — November 9, 2006 @ 5:44 pm But NDE doesn't use 'eliminate everything else to be left with NDE', does it Dave? Well done with Quote It’s all tentative. Do you understand that all science is tentative? - a good reason why the EF is utter bunk. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,20:28    Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 09 2006,12:43) 'Kinnel. Quote Denyse O’Leary’s new blog: The Mindful Hack by O'Leary on November 9th, 2006 · No Comments Check out my new blog on the neuroscience issues that border on the intelligent design controversy, the Mindful Hack: First two stories: 1. Blindness: Spiritual blindness worse than physical? 2. Sigmund Freud … fallen so far and so fast? Note: The Post-Darwinist will continue as before, and I will continue to contribute to this and all blogs I am not locked out of. Mindful Hack tracks my latest co-authored book, The Spiritual Brain (co-authored with Montreal neuroscientist Mario Beauregard), currently in copy editing. Denyse is the winner of quantity x shitness. next week she's going to adress.. 3. Are fifteen crap blogs equal to one good one? Ah yes, just what the ID movement needs. More crap blogs by laymen. The glorious scientific revolution will happen any day now.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,20:47    A creationist idiot will make some claim like "All them sedimimentary layers wuz laid down by The Flud." and a geologist will write a nice long post explaining ten or twelve reasons why this is obvious nonsense, and a lot of lurkers learn a little about geology. A creationist idiot will make some claim like "Informashun Theory disproeves Evolution." And an Information Theory researcher explains why you could only think that if you were educated with a banana and an inner tube, and a lot of lurkers learn a little about Information Theory. A creationist says "A evolution similation ain't nothin like evolution cause the computer ain't mutatin." and a genetic algorithms expert will come by and answer that he would flunk a freshman who said anything that stupid, and the lurkers learn a little about genetic algorithms. I suppose you could say that the lurkers benefit from the free education they wouldn't otherwise get, but I'm not sure about this. It's a pretty dilettantish education. I would think it much more efficient to read a textbook. But perhaps that's not entertaining enough. Me, I'm not here to learn anything. I'm just here to laugh.

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,20:49    And now a Hymn for church lady DOLar -to do it karaoke style ...the electric piono backing is here BRINGING IN THE SHEAVES A Him to Demise (of ID) Blowing in the morning, blowing seeds of blindness, Blowing in the blogsphere and the dingbats ear; Waiting for the print run, and the time of reaping, We shall come rejoicing, ringing on your memes. Refrain Ringing on your memes, ringing on your memes, We shall come rejoicing, ringing on your memes, Ringing on your memes, ringing on your memes, We shall come rejoicing, ringing on your memes, Blowing on the blog, blowing on the bog, Fearing neither facts nor peer reviewers wheeze; By and by the royalties, and the typing ended, We shall come rejoicing, ringing on your memes. Refrain Going forth with heaps of, blowing for the Master,(of WAD) Though the loss sustained our spirit often grieves (a lot); When our weeping’s over, He will bid us welcome, (on ebay) We shall come rejoicing, ringing on your memes. Refrain -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,23:15    Holy shabit, something serious is coming down the pipes in the ID world! Quote 2. Joey Campana  // Nov 9th 2006 at 2:41 pm [Off-topic] Denyse, Please contact me ASAP about a matter of great importance. jccampana at gmail dot com Comment by Joey Campana — November 9, 2006 @ 2:41 pm http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/1773#comments Nah.  It's probably just a memo to DO'L reminding her to learn how to write coherently before taking up yet another blog. -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

keiths Posts: 2195 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2006,23:39    Dembski just posted this: Quote ID has gotten much media coverage in Denmark over the last year and interest in the topic there is growing. ...which of course reminded me of this great moment on UD, when the 'Isaac Newton of information theory' managed to misinterpret some Google search statistics so badly that he concluded that Quote Danes must be searching for ID >20 times more than Americans. International interest in ID is growing.   [Emphasis his] -------------- And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

Altabin Posts: 308 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,04:51    Hey, hey, hey, where did all the comments go?  Last time I looked, JAD was snapping at the Darwimps, and one  or two IDers themselves were beginning to think that it was a bit unseemly.  Then, *poof*.  Did something FUNNY happen?  Did anyone get it and write it down? By the way, any theories why DT suddenly decided to post JAD's opera omnia - and has been all respectful and lovey recently to his former most-hated?  I seem to be seeing more and more use of "front-loading" among UT commentators, and referencing JAD's articles more than Behe or Dembski himself.  Perhaps they just think that this is real science... --------------

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,06:29    Quote ID in Denmark by William Dembski on November 9th, 2006 · No Comments ID has gotten much media coverage in Denmark over the last year and interest in the topic there is growing. Looks like ID's future is secure among Danish community college instructors.  The formidable Wedge in action. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,09:45    The latest from Uncommon Descent, Lee Spetner responds (briefly) to Tom Schneider Consider an analogy with a population of words. Suppose a word can evolve by <i>random</i> point-mutation or by <i>random</i> recombination with other words in the population. If a mutant forms a valid word, it is added to the population. If not, it is ruthlessly eliminated. The population is limited to a few hundred of the longest words. So, starting with the single-letter word "O", a population might evolve like this:  o  to  tow  row  rot Under these conditions, can words as long as even ten-letters evolve in a reasonable period of time? Using Spetner's method, how long would it take? -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,09:55    Any reason why I can't edit my comments? Just wanted to fix the html in my previous post. -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,10:16    Quote (argystokes @ Nov. 09 2006,23:15) Holy shabit, something serious is coming down the pipes in the ID world!     Quote 2. Joey Campana  // Nov 9th 2006 at 2:41 pm [Off-topic] Denyse, Please contact me ASAP about a matter of great importance. jccampana at gmail dot com Comment by Joey Campana — November 9, 2006 @ 2:41 pm Oh shit. We're in for it now. I bet Joey's found a fossil that disproves evolution! Everybody, RUN for it! ! ! ! -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,10:36    Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 09 2006,15:30) http://www.researchintelligentdesign.org/wiki....=theory Quote Search results From ResearchID.org For query "theory" Jump to: navigation, search There is no page titled ":theory". You can create this page. For more information about searching ResearchID.org, see Searching ResearchID.org. Showing below up to 20 results starting with #1. Bwahahahaha Arden, THIS is Joey's site. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,10:52    From Joey's welcome letter. http://www.researchintelligentdesign.org/wiki...._Letter Quote Questions How could science presume such notions of blindness and randomness as the dominant players in nature if the very idea of science is based on the assumption that the universe is ordered such that it can be understood by the human mind? emphasis mine. Tail wags dog. try; the human mind is ordered such that it can be understand by the universe. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,12:14    Just looked in again to see what the mid-term results hold for ID. Lenny seems to have been spot-on. @Altabin The answers to most of your questions can be found on this ISCID thread. I thought this claim by John:     Quote I have hurled invective at no one, not here, not at Uncommon Descent, not at any other place where I have posted. was a little too sweeping. PS. Well done US voters. (The suggestion on French TV was  voters have rejected a poor performance rather than a political ideology.)

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2006,13:45    Quote (Zachriel @ Nov. 10 2006,10:45) o  to  tow  row  rot Under these conditions, can words as long as even ten-letters evolve in a reasonable period of time? Using Spetner's method, how long would it take? I got to seven letters by hand in five minutes from your starting point: trot trout tout pout lout lost lose loser closer closers so i bet it'd be an easy thing for computers to get nearly everywhere in the vocabulary in a short amount of time.

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