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Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2015,18:52   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 24 2015,09:39)
It looks like REC and Jerad are falling on their sword for Stenosemella.

And verily:
 
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Barry ArringtonApril 23, 2015 at 5:31 pm

Jerad has joined stenosemella

UD link

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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2015,19:01   

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His reply is a great blend of incoherence, not addressing the points just raised, have cake and eat it too and paranoia:

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kairosfocusApril 23, 2015 at 4:58 pm
REC:

These are people who know the situation and are trying to use my name in connexion with a stalking campaign.

Jerad:

Namecalling.

I will just say that TWO independent sets of editors have had to act in the context of patent defamation by the unhinged and obviously deeply malicious. I have spoken for record, for reference, and given the sort of stalking . . . now likely on the ground . . . outing and smearing of uninvolved people and their affairs that has now been resorted to (for the “crime” of being connected to me in some remote degree), I would advise you to cease and desist if you care one least bit about common decency.

And if you cannot find in yourself the decency and good sense to realise the sort of lines that have been crossed and what it reveals about the tone and attitudes too long harboured and enabled by the attack sites, I am confident that a great many people will.

If what you have left is harbouring and enabling the malicious and unhinged in order to distract from issues on the merits and poison the atmosphere, then crying censorship and the like in the face of actions in response to outright tort and stalking, that speaks volumes.

G’day.

KF


Only a fishing reel diagram could have made that better.

Blimey.

The Passion of Gordon.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2015,19:45   

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I must thank you for taking courage to unlurk and speak up. KF

I got past the UD moderation by kissing Gordon's ass and agreeing with his victimization. I will have to bathe in bleach for a week to get rid of the stench.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2015,23:26   

Batshit crazy conspiracy woowoo tard:

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kairosfocusApril 23, 2015 at 5:59 pm
UP, I actually have long had little choice in the matter. As an academic requirement I had to submit my full name with documents subsequently published by my uni. I didn’t even know about it until abusers were triumphantly trumpeting details. Subsequently they have gone after my residential address (hitting that of some in laws), my wife and children, and now more remote relatives and their activities. Some of that points to on the ground stalking, not just web trolling. It seems there are attempts to join a local political malice motivated slander campaign that seized on parliamentary immunity to get away with what would have been “take a fat checque book to High Court” otherwise; actually no sane lawyer would have tried to defend it. All of this is patent stalking and harassment, which is implicitly threatening not only to me but to others who are even remotely connected. And of course for years participants in and enablers of the stalking and abuse have continued their delight in wrongdoing. All of which speak volumes on the attitudes and tendencies of too many objectors. But it is not just me by any means, just about any person who has stood up in public with any significant background to say that there is something substantial in the design inference, has been targetted for a ruthless or even nihilistic and in some regards outright sadistic or at minimum deeply spiteful witch hunt that is wide and deep, a very bad sign for our civilisation; thus my little poem above. I don’t know if it is too late, but you will be able to see the warning I have clipped from Cicero and put up as FTR: http://www.uncommondescent.com.....-rhetoric/....hetoric I must thank you for taking courage to unlurk and speak up. KF




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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,00:14   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 23 2015,23:26)
Batshit crazy conspiracy woowoo tard:

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kairosfocusApril 23, 2015 at 5:59 pm
UP, I actually have long had little choice in the matter. As an academic requirement I had to submit my full name with documents subsequently published by my uni. I didn’t even know about it until abusers were triumphantly trumpeting details. Subsequently they have gone after my residential address (hitting that of some in laws), my wife and children, and now more remote relatives and their activities. Some of that points to on the ground stalking, not just web trolling. It seems there are attempts to join a local political malice motivated slander campaign that seized on parliamentary immunity to get away with what would have been “take a fat checque book to High Court” otherwise; actually no sane lawyer would have tried to defend it. All of this is patent stalking and harassment, which is implicitly threatening not only to me but to others who are even remotely connected. And of course for years participants in and enablers of the stalking and abuse have continued their delight in wrongdoing. All of which speak volumes on the attitudes and tendencies of too many objectors. But it is not just me by any means, just about any person who has stood up in public with any significant background to say that there is something substantial in the design inference, has been targetted for a ruthless or even nihilistic and in some regards outright sadistic or at minimum deeply spiteful witch hunt that is wide and deep, a very bad sign for our civilisation; thus my little poem above. I don’t know if it is too late, but you will be able to see the warning I have clipped from Cicero and put up as FTR: http://www.uncommondescent.com.....-rhetoric/....het....hetoric I must thank you for taking courage to unlurk and speak up. KF



OMG, Gordon must be important.

Yeah, like anybody cares about that bizarre little creep.

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Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,03:16   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 24 2015,16:26)
Batshit crazy conspiracy woowoo tard:
...

What I like is that after creating two 'comments closed' threads he has to go to an existing comments-enabled one to elicit any sympathetic feedback for his victimitis, and, with the exception of Querius, he's getting none from the regulars.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,07:31   

Quote (OgreMkV @ April 23 2015,14:08)
TWT, You ought to start a website called Uncommon Descent: The Truth


And just post the screen shots of your stuff and link back the current version... or show the original and the edited side-by-side.

I'll consider it.

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Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,10:13   

Will CBEB-1 even reach Montserrat?

I never thought she had the range.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,10:13   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 23 2015,21:26)
Batshit crazy conspiracy woowoo tard:

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kairosfocusApril 23, 2015 at 5:59 pm
UP, I actually have long had little choice in the matter. As an academic requirement I had to submit my full name with documents subsequently published by my uni. I didn’t even know about it until abusers were triumphantly trumpeting details. Subsequently they have gone after my residential address (hitting that of some in laws), my wife and children, and now more remote relatives and their activities. Some of that points to on the ground stalking, not just web trolling. It seems there are attempts to join a local political malice motivated slander campaign that seized on parliamentary immunity to get away with what would have been “take a fat checque book to High Court” otherwise; actually no sane lawyer would have tried to defend it. All of this is patent stalking and harassment, which is implicitly threatening not only to me but to others who are even remotely connected. And of course for years participants in and enablers of the stalking and abuse have continued their delight in wrongdoing. All of which speak volumes on the attitudes and tendencies of too many objectors. But it is not just me by any means, just about any person who has stood up in public with any significant background to say that there is something substantial in the design inference, has been targetted for a ruthless or even nihilistic and in some regards outright sadistic or at minimum deeply spiteful witch hunt that is wide and deep, a very bad sign for our civilisation; thus my little poem above. I don’t know if it is too late, but you will be able to see the warning I have clipped from Cicero and put up as FTR: http://www.uncommondescent.com.....-rhetoric/....het....hetoric I must thank you for taking courage to unlurk and speak up. KF



Oh Gordon, you silly man.

It's not the Intercontinental Darwinist Conspiracy (Montserrat Chapter) staking out your house.  It's our comrades in Big Gay.  They're coming for your bottom.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,14:11   

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Don Pedro [aka Piotr]April 24, 2015 at 12:35 pm
And we are still waiting for Kairosfocus to define FSCO/I and clarify how it is related to “active information”. A computable metric would be better than an intuitive criterion such as “Methinks it’s like a fishing reel.”


Well...the nerve of some people!

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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,14:42   

KF to EL:

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Now, multiply the above rhetorical tactics, madam, by the fact that you host one of the cluster of sites that harbours the set of abusive stalkers that are currently at their fell work.

Then, you may begin to understand that I take a dim view indeed of such enabling tactics above and elsewhere.

Good day, madam.

KF


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....7305CBs

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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,15:12   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 24 2015,14:42)
KF to EL:

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Now, multiply the above rhetorical tactics, madam, by the fact that you host one of the cluster of sites that harbours the set of abusive stalkers that are currently at their fell work.

Then, you may begin to understand that I take a dim view indeed of such enabling tactics above and elsewhere.

Good day, madam.

KF


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....7305CBs

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unwilling participant April 24, 2015 at 2:09 pm
KF: “EL…Now, multiply the above rhetorical tactics, madam, by the fact that you host one of the cluster of sites that harbours the set of abusive stalkers that are currently at their fell work.

Then, you may begin to understand that I take a dim view indeed of such enabling tactics above and elsewhere.

Good day, madam.”

KF, I am a little confused as to where this uncalled for rant came from. Elizabeth has been nothing but polite and fair in her comments on this thread yet you unjustly attack her in this manner. You demand respect and good behaviour from others but why should they give this to you when they see you make unfounded statements like this?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,16:05   

To gordo (and the other IDiots), Elizabeth Liddle and all other non-IDiots are responsible for (enabling of) anything and everything that all other non-IDiots say and/or do, no matter where or when they say and/or do it, but neither gordo, arrington, dembski, 'News', nor any other IDiot is ever responsible for (enabling of) anything that other IDiots say and/or do.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,16:07   

Quote (The whole truth @ April 24 2015,16:05)
To gordo (and the other IDiots), Elizabeth Liddle and all other non-IDiots are responsible for (enabling of) anything and everything that all other non-IDiots say and/or do, no matter where or when they say and/or do it, but neither gordo, arrington, dembski, 'News', nor any other IDiot is ever responsible for (enabling of) anything that other IDiots say and/or do.

KF justs wants to be able to censor beyond the pillow-fart. FORT. And yet he recommends people to be "censor of the year"!

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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,18:44   

Quote (Woodbine @ April 24 2015,08:13)
Will CBEB-1 even reach Montserrat?

I never thought she had the range.

When you reach Level 7 we can tell you about the super-secret offshore refuelling base...

Oh.

Never mind.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,21:04   

I am conducting a little social experiment over at UD. As an ID opponent I have been repeatedly banned for politely and logically disagreeing with Barry and Gordon. I now want to see how long I will last disagreeing with Barry and Gordon but being a supporter of ID.

I really must get a hobby.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 24 2015,22:52   

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I really must get a hobby.

Or at least one not as irreducibly complex as that one...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,01:37   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 24 2015,21:04)
I am conducting a little social experiment over at UD. As an ID opponent I have been repeatedly banned for politely and logically disagreeing with Barry and Gordon. I now want to see how long I will last disagreeing with Barry and Gordon but being a supporter of ID.

I really must get a hobby.

I'm betting it lasts less time than your StephenB and Joe experiments.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,01:50   

Moar science with Densye: Geocentrism might be true after all!
I've watched the trailer of the film she is pushing - amazingly, the batshit crazy author has managed to get interviews with Lawrence Krauss and Michio Kaku.

As for kairosfocus' persecution complex, if there really are suspicious blokes skulking near his home they might be the mates of the ex-con murderers he is trying to re-integrate into society.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,02:35   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 25 2015,01:50)
Moar science with Densye: Geocentrism might be true after all!
I've watched the trailer of the film she is pushing - amazingly, the batshit crazy author has managed to get interviews with Lawrence Krauss and Michio Kaku.

As for kairosfocus' persecution complex, if there really are suspicious blokes skulking near his home they might be the mates of the ex-con murderers he is trying to re-integrate into society.

Or the regional vulcanologist. Or the auditor of the local administration. Or a real estate agent. Or a competing strategic thinker. Who can tell?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,05:39   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 25 2015,03:04)
I am conducting a little social experiment over at UD. As an ID opponent I have been repeatedly banned for politely and logically disagreeing with Barry and Gordon. I now want to see how long I will last disagreeing with Barry and Gordon but being a supporter of ID.

I really must get a hobby.

My own [brief] career there was as an atheist ID supporter.

DaveTard began to become suspicious after I praised Dr. Dembski's elegant formulations for encompassing such a wide range of ideas and ideologies. I likened this to Dr. Who's dimension-defying phone booth, whose name eluded me at the time...

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,05:40   

Quote (timothya @ April 25 2015,08:35)
Quote (Kattarina98 @ April 25 2015,01:50)
Moar science with Densye: Geocentrism might be true after all!
I've watched the trailer of the film she is pushing - amazingly, the batshit crazy author has managed to get interviews with Lawrence Krauss and Michio Kaku.

As for kairosfocus' persecution complex, if there really are suspicious blokes skulking near his home they might be the mates of the ex-con murderers he is trying to re-integrate into society.

Or the regional vulcanologist. Or the auditor of the local administration. Or a real estate agent. Or a competing strategic thinker. Who can tell?

Mr Leathers has ways of finding out.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,06:13   

From the Active Information thread at UD:
 
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UP,

Perhaps, I should in addition put this Alinsky style (as his particular forms are most in evidence today), the population must become the manipulated, polarised passive enablers for the radical activists and to do so must be led to believe all/only angels are on one side and all/only devils are on the other.

The use of character assassination and slander or scapegoating targetting of institutions to that end is a notorious, studied tactic. So are mob rule tactics that exploit freedoms to push the envelope farther and farther by degrees until there is eventual toleration for the most ugly targetting of designated scapegoats. As is of course the associated setting up and smearing then setting alight of strawman caricatures of people, institutions and arguments that then cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere.

One thing I am therefore doing — given highly suspicious timing, focus and surfacing — is pointing out that the atmosphere has now been seriously poisoned, and those with responsibility and the prestige required to run front operations or serve as enabling face cards . . . I am being forced to revert to terminology from the past . . . have a certain responsibility to seriously clean house and put out the burning poison-laced strawmen.

Including, where they persist in endlessly repeating fallacious, tainted and dismissive talking points regardless of correction as though nothing is wrong.

(I must add that there is a direct involvement of such a talking point involving specifically EL as a face card on oh Aiden and their atheist’s anthem and associated vampire clergy supporting war mongering and genocide video etc are as pure as driven snow, in the attempt to smear me at the local newspaper’s web site; though now the worst smears put up there have been removed by Editors as they constitute blatant character assassination tort. Let’s just say that the notion that I would consort with criminals [in particular, murderers . . . ] rather than support rehabilitation of former criminals in the business place of remote relatives or friends [I freely "confess to the latter . . . ] is a particularly nasty bit of speaking with disregard to truth in hopes that what is said or suggested will be taken as truth to my severe disadvantage; including attempting to box bread out of the mouths of my family. And of course, that I am in fact linked by in-law relationships to such persons is local, not on the Internet information implying on the ground stalking and casing of the joint involving uninvolved relatives of not just close but remote degree.) The UD editors have the actual smears in hand which I believe is part of why they were so firm with enablers in another recent thread.)

I suggest you go here to see where this sort of ruthlessness can eventually get in the hands of activists wielding power if unchecked: http://kairosfocus.blogspot.co.....h-258.html/....58.....58.html (The expelled phenomenon is a milder more subtle, but quite vicious form of this.)

KF

I don't know any details, but it seems that this person is under extreme stress. Perhaps it might be a good idea to back off with hands in sight.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,07:39   



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,08:09   

gordo is beating his plowshares into swords so that he can stand on the hill and courageously defend what has been written into his name for 1,000 years. BYDAND!

"What more can I say for the moment than this, that to be fore-warned is to be fore-armed. If, we are wise.

KF"




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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,08:55   

In case anyone is wondering, "support rehabilitation of former criminals in the business place of remote relatives" is gordo speak for hanging out with his "friends who are former murderers" at the Bitter End Beach Bar in Montserrat, which is owned and operated by his brother-in-law [personal name removed -- WRE] (hardly a "remote" relative).

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on April 25 2015,12:08

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,09:25   

Is there some reason you are posting names of KF's family members?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,09:38   

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Is there some reason you are posting names of KF's family members?

Yeah. Let's not do that. He's an odious windbag, but let's leave his family out of this.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,10:12   

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 25 2015,09:38)
Quote (socle @ April 25 2015,09:25)
Is there some reason you are posting names of KF's family members?

Yeah. Let's not do that. He's an odious windbag, but let's leave his family out of this.

I have to agree. Don't give him any justification for his paranoia. All you have to do is look at his reaction to Elizabeth commenting at UD to know that he has gone off the deep end. But if there is even the slightest bit of truth that his family has been harassed, or that lies have been spread about him, that is completely unacceptable.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2015,10:28   

After Gordo personally attacks Elizabeth, he berates Joe for calling her old and insane.
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kairosfocusApril 25, 2015 at 9:15 am
Joe, Pardon, I think you have gone too far, slipped off the wagon. Please, get back up on it. KF

And the sad thing is that he does not see his own hipocrisy.

  
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