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Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,17:00    Materialism defeated! KF: Quote Then, along comes an Euler, and BANG! 0 = 1 + e^i*pi but: bfast: Quote DaveS, “You can of course express it more compactly (and more sensibly) as e^i*pi = -1. Does it then lose some of its magic?” Actually, yours is the more commonly expressed form of Euler’s identity. It doesn’t loose magic in this format — it increases in magic. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,17:10    So they think that math is magic... I guess that's part of their problem. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,17:17    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 20 2015,17:00) Materialism defeated! KF:   Quote Then, along comes an Euler, and BANG! 0 = 1 + e^i*pi but: bfast:   Quote DaveS, “You can of course express it more compactly (and more sensibly) as e^i*pi = -1. Does it then lose some of its magic?” Actually, yours is the more commonly expressed form of Euler’s identity. It doesn’t loose magic in this format — it increases in magic. Then Mullings laid waste to his detractors with this: Quote DS, only at the price of obscuring the relationships between a nexus of numbers, relationships and operations. The five most prominent numbers in one astonishingly coherent framework tied to oscillations and waves [thus frequency space]. Huge insights beckon when the classic form is rearranged . . . a common enough thing in strategic synthesis, the moment of lateral insight and eye-opening synthesis. Likewise for me a real breakthrough in economic insight was to think in terms of the dynamics of aggregate supply & demand, with saturation as resources tighten up highlighted leading to insights on overheating an economy, stagflation, shocks and Schumpeter’s creative destruction . . . here GDP fell 50% when the volcano hit. Just one little diagram or equation, but then comes the moment of insightful synthesis. But then, I am a moderate constructivist in education philosophy. KF Unfortunately he neglected to leave us a Rosetta Stone to enable translation into human.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,17:25    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 20 2015,17:17) Quote (Richardthughes @ April 20 2015,17:00) Materialism defeated! KF:   Quote Then, along comes an Euler, and BANG! 0 = 1 + e^i*pi but: bfast:   Quote DaveS, “You can of course express it more compactly (and more sensibly) as e^i*pi = -1. Does it then lose some of its magic?” Actually, yours is the more commonly expressed form of Euler’s identity. It doesn’t loose magic in this format — it increases in magic. Then Mullings laid waste to his detractors with this: Quote DS, only at the price of obscuring the relationships between a nexus of numbers, relationships and operations. The five most prominent numbers in one astonishingly coherent framework tied to oscillations and waves [thus frequency space]. Huge insights beckon when the classic form is rearranged . . . a common enough thing in strategic synthesis, the moment of lateral insight and eye-opening synthesis. Likewise for me a real breakthrough in economic insight was to think in terms of the dynamics of aggregate supply & demand, with saturation as resources tighten up highlighted leading to insights on overheating an economy, stagflation, shocks and Schumpeter’s creative destruction . . . here GDP fell 50% when the volcano hit. Just one little diagram or equation, but then comes the moment of insightful synthesis. But then, I am a moderate constructivist in education philosophy. KF Unfortunately he neglected to leave us a Rosetta Stone to enable translation into human. Even better was Stenosemella's response: Quote Is this really supposed to mean anything? Be profound? Could you please rephrase this in a fashion that can be comprehended by a human being? Thank you in advance for your cooperation. I am taking bets on how long it is before Mullings goes crying to Barry to have this insolence squashed.

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,17:54    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 20 2015,16:10) From the Koch brothers sponsored department of Republican Revisionist history:   Quote 31 AndreApril 19, 2015 at 2:13 pm And here is another person that don’t understand slavery in the Biblical context. Right Stenosesmella a few questions. … In 1500 BC was there such a thing as a democratic government? Careers? Pension? Medical Aid? Also was there such a thing as welfare? social workers? Police? Judicial system? Prisons? Hospitals? Slavery in biblical times was mostly good for slaves. If a rich person did not take you in you’d be dead. Slavery in biblical times was almost always voluntary with clear rules and a handsome pay out when it was time to be freed. The ignorance of the feeble minded saddens me. You see your slaves were your basic moocher class, bronze age welfare queens who had it easy. This is before Jesus came back as John Galt. The just laid around waiting for their "handsome pay out" whilst who had to do all the whipping and raping? That's right, the SLAVE OWNERS! This also (like PCD) disproves evolution because as folks basically just die without being slaves someone must have set up this cushy system from day 1. CHECK MATE. Reminds me of Arkansas Rep John Hubbard.   Quote Hubbard: The institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth. Of course, it's only one short leap away from WLC's defense of the genocide of the Canaanites.   Quote WLC: So whom does God wrong in commanding the destruction of the Canaanites? Not the Canaanite adults, for they were corrupt and deserving of judgement. Not the children, for they inherit eternal life. So who is wronged? Ironically, I think the most difficult part of this whole debate is the apparent wrong done to the Israeli soldiers themselves. Can you imagine what it would be like to have to break into some house and kill a terrified woman and her children? The brutalizing effect on these Israeli soldiers is disturbing. Won't someone think of the benevolent slave owners hack and slashers ? -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,18:56    WLC:   Quote So whom does God wrong in commanding the destruction of the Canaanites? Not the Canaanite adults, for they were corrupt and deserving of judgement. Not the children, for they inherit eternal life. So kill your children NOW before they become adults, discover sin and lose eternal life!!

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,19:01    Quote (OgreMkV @ April 20 2015,17:10) So they think that math is magic... I guess that's part of their problem. It's not a Mickey Mouse argument. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v....aU08VvY Edited by midwifetoad on April 20 2015,19:02 -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2015,05:17    Quote (tsig @ April 20 2015,14:41) It's a fistaval of fools. Is that a portmanteau of "festival" and "fistula"?

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2015,06:40    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 21 2015,00:40) Quote (Richardthughes @ April 20 2015,16:10) From the Koch brothers sponsored department of Republican Revisionist history:   Quote 31 AndreApril 19, 2015 at 2:13 pm And here is another person that don’t understand slavery in the Biblical context. Right Stenosesmella a few questions. … In 1500 BC was there such a thing as a democratic government? Careers? Pension? Medical Aid? Also was there such a thing as welfare? social workers? Police? Judicial system? Prisons? Hospitals? Slavery in biblical times was mostly good for slaves. If a rich person did not take you in you’d be dead. Slavery in biblical times was almost always voluntary with clear rules and a handsome pay out when it was time to be freed. The ignorance of the feeble minded saddens me. You see your slaves were your basic moocher class, bronze age welfare queens who had it easy. This is before Jesus came back as John Galt. The just laid around waiting for their "handsome pay out" whilst who had to do all the whipping and raping? That's right, the SLAVE OWNERS! This also (like PCD) disproves evolution because as folks basically just die without being slaves someone must have set up this cushy system from day 1. CHECK MATE. I knew that Cecil B. Demille was lying to us in The Ten Commandments? Those pyramids weren't built by slaves, they randomly assembled themselves when a tornado rolled through a quarry. Not so fast HOMO! Who's to say teh designer didn't just have them shipped in by alien intergalactic steam boats from a pryamid plantation/factory on Ursa Minor? Huh? Fuck if he can make a MAN out of dirt then flat pack pyramids should be a walk in the park right? Heck if it wasn't for the South and and slavery where would 'merika be today? They been importing bibles and exporting tards so well they have the biggest trade surplus in the western world. Why? Well just consider Miley Cirus for 1. CHECKMATE MATERIALISTS! -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2015,15:05    [quote]Then Mullings laid waste to his detractors with this: Quote DS, only at the price of obscuring the relationships between a nexus of numbers, relationships and operations. The five most prominent numbers in one astonishingly coherent framework tied to oscillations and waves [thus frequency space]. Huge insights beckon when the classic form is rearranged . . . a common enough thing in strategic synthesis, the moment of lateral insight and eye-opening synthesis. Likewise for me a real breakthrough in economic insight was to think in terms of the dynamics of aggregate supply & demand, with saturation as resources tighten up highlighted leading to insights on overheating an economy, stagflation, shocks and Schumpeter’s creative destruction . . . here GDP fell 50% when the volcano hit. Just one little diagram or equation, but then comes the moment of insightful synthesis. But then, I am a moderate constructivist in education philosophy. KF That's like Gaulin hybridized with a thesaurus, and edited for grammar.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2015,16:28    Quote (N.Wells @ April 21 2015,15:05) [quote]Then Mullings laid waste to his detractors with this:   Quote DS, only at the price of obscuring the relationships between a nexus of numbers, relationships and operations. The five most prominent numbers in one astonishingly coherent framework tied to oscillations and waves [thus frequency space]. Huge insights beckon when the classic form is rearranged . . . a common enough thing in strategic synthesis, the moment of lateral insight and eye-opening synthesis. Likewise for me a real breakthrough in economic insight was to think in terms of the dynamics of aggregate supply & demand, with saturation as resources tighten up highlighted leading to insights on overheating an economy, stagflation, shocks and Schumpeter’s creative destruction . . . here GDP fell 50% when the volcano hit. Just one little diagram or equation, but then comes the moment of insightful synthesis. But then, I am a moderate constructivist in education philosophy. KF That's like Gaulin hybridized with a thesaurus, and edited for grammar. Montserrat is lucky to have such a Polymath as KF. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2015,19:20    LULZ! Quote 10 kairosfocusApril 21, 2015 at 6:15 pm Seversky: FTR, you are citing the operator of a hate and slander site and web vandal. KF 1. He was citing the bible, actually. 2. TWT Is often accused of these things buy KF but he never presents any evidence. Pearl-clutching at its saddest. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 21 2015,22:56    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 21 2015,19:20) LULZ! Quote 10 kairosfocusApril 21, 2015 at 6:15 pm Seversky: FTR, you are citing the operator of a hate and slander site and web vandal. KF 1. He was citing the bible, actually. 2. TWT Is often accused of these things buy KF but he never presents any evidence. Pearl-clutching at its saddest. It has been pointed out to him. Quote KF: “Seversy: FTR, you are citing the operator of a hate and slander site and web vandal. KF” Actually he is citing the bible. But it is refreshing to see you admit that the bible contains hate and slander. I was afraid that I was just misinterpreting it. I predict a Barry Arrington blasphemy charge in the near future.

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,02:16    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 21 2015,22:28) [quote=N.Wells,April 21 2015,15:05] Quote Then Mullings laid waste to his detractors with this:   Quote DS, only at the price of obscuring the relationships between a nexus of numbers, relationships and operations. The five most prominent numbers in one astonishingly coherent framework tied to oscillations and waves [thus frequency space]. Huge insights beckon when the classic form is rearranged . . . a common enough thing in strategic synthesis, the moment of lateral insight and eye-opening synthesis. Likewise for me a real breakthrough in economic insight was to think in terms of the dynamics of aggregate supply & demand, with saturation as resources tighten up highlighted leading to insights on overheating an economy, stagflation, shocks and Schumpeter’s creative destruction . . . here GDP fell 50% when the volcano hit. Just one little diagram or equation, but then comes the moment of insightful synthesis. But then, I am a moderate constructivist in education philosophy. KF That's like Gaulin hybridized with a thesaurus, and edited for grammar. Montserrat is lucky to have such a Polymath as KF. Correction: The rest of us are lucky that Montserrat has KF. -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,05:10    [quote=Richardthughes,April 21 2015,16:28] Quote (N.Wells @ April 21 2015,15:05)   Quote Then Mullings laid waste to his detractors with this:     Quote DS, only at the price of obscuring the relationships between a nexus of numbers, relationships and operations. The five most prominent numbers in one astonishingly coherent framework tied to oscillations and waves [thus frequency space]. Huge insights beckon when the classic form is rearranged . . . a common enough thing in strategic synthesis, the moment of lateral insight and eye-opening synthesis. Likewise for me a real breakthrough in economic insight was to think in terms of the dynamics of aggregate supply & demand, with saturation as resources tighten up highlighted leading to insights on overheating an economy, stagflation, shocks and Schumpeter’s creative destruction . . . here GDP fell 50% when the volcano hit. Just one little diagram or equation, but then comes the moment of insightful synthesis. But then, I am a moderate constructivist in education philosophy. KF That's like Gaulin hybridized with a thesaurus, and edited for grammar. Montserrat is lucky to have such a Polymath as KF. In the same way that it's lucky that it has an active volcano, because it gets disaster assistance?

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,06:40    Barry is a lawyer. I give him credit for recognizing and running away from a no-win situation. The nobodies at UD can blather about biblical slaves being well treated and better off, but if he defends slavery, his life as a public attorney is pretty much over. And it could be the end of the ID movement under current management. Mostly lawyers. On the other hand, if he says slavery is objectively immoral, he has a problem with religion. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,08:06    Quote (midwifetoad @ April 22 2015,14:40) Barry is a lawyer. I give him credit for recognizing and running away from a no-win situation. The nobodies at UD can blather about biblical slaves being well treated and better off, but if he defends slavery, his life as a public attorney is pretty much over. And it could be the end of the ID movement under current management. Mostly lawyers. On the other hand, if he says slavery is objectively immoral, he has a problem with religion. Is this a road to Damascus moment where he and his beliefs get knocked of his donkey or a crossing the Rubicon moment where he has passed the point of no return? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,08:28    Quote (k.e.. @ April 22 2015,14:06) Quote (midwifetoad @ April 22 2015,14:40) Barry is a lawyer. I give him credit for recognizing and running away from a no-win situation. The nobodies at UD can blather about biblical slaves being well treated and better off, but if he defends slavery, his life as a public attorney is pretty much over. And it could be the end of the ID movement under current management. Mostly lawyers. On the other hand, if he says slavery is objectively immoral, he has a problem with religion. Is this a road to Damascus moment where he and his beliefs get knocked of his donkey or a crossing the Rubicon moment where he has passed the point of no return? You underestimate the power of Doublethink. You underestimate the power of Dickitude. You vastly underestimate their overwhelming power when combined. -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,08:48    Quote (k.e.. @ April 22 2015,08:06)   Quote (midwifetoad @ April 22 2015,14:40) Barry is a lawyer. I give him credit for recognizing and running away from a no-win situation. The nobodies at UD can blather about biblical slaves being well treated and better off, but if he defends slavery, his life as a public attorney is pretty much over. And it could be the end of the ID movement under current management. Mostly lawyers. On the other hand, if he says slavery is objectively immoral, he has a problem with religion. Is this a road to Damascus moment where he and his beliefs get knocked of his donkey or a crossing the Rubicon moment where he has passed the point of no return? Well, it's not a Balaam's ass moment, since with KF and BA77 they already have a surfeit of talking donkeys.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,10:17    In the Same thread KK has complained: Quote S, Kindly note my observation, some. In this thread I have had to deal with outing, personal attack and indirect personal attack meant to associate me as an advisor with a policy made to sound foolish by omitting highly material and easily ascertained facts that have been in global news headlines in many cases but which may now have faded from public memory. Just scroll up. The matter is so bad — and so bad in connexion with another attack in another forum emanating from much the same circles — that I have had to lay out more on my background than I would have liked. KF (emphasis mine) And he responds in part by linking to a document with his name on: http://www.angelfire.com/pro...._ja.htm Professional victim. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,10:27    Gordon abandons biblical inerrancy, and goes all post-modern on us: Quote Sev, the KJV is 400 years old, 250 years old in the most common revision in use; there has been a lot of progress with understanding language since and there has been a relaxation of the political constraints of the time that led to an over emphasis on word for word literalism when a more dynamically equivalent rendering would perhaps have been truer to the intent; one had to reckon with suspicious and hostile critics looking for any handy excuse to reject and on balance the safest path was what is often the second best technical translation option, knowing that the translation operated in the context of scholarship and a tradition of educated clergy able to draw out deeper features and nuances. In short, first class exegesis and preaching are a necessary companion to popular translation into the vernacular; something that is too often overlooked. But, on balance the KJV is rightfully regarded as a classic of translation and as a blessing in its own right. Other versions sometimes tend to follow its precedent too much, for various reasons. But the wider point is that text without context is pretext; the context at multiple levels makes it clear that human oversight of Creation is a stewardship with accountability and responsibility to manage wisely rather than abuse and despoil. KF Someone's asking to get tossed in the volcano.  Burn the heretic! -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,12:09    Just as the original Hebrew and Greek were inspired by and overseen by the Deity, so was the translation of the KJV. Doesn't KF know this? As for Barry's ability to compartmentalize, I('m sure he has no personal problem. But if the site owner of the premier ID web forum says slavery is not objectively immoral, then it will cause trouble. ID is a political movement, and this is deep politics. You just don't mess with slavery. Someone should bring this up every day. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,12:28    Quote (JohnW @ April 22 2015,16:27) Gordon abandons biblical inerrancy, and goes all post-modern on us: Quote Sev, the KJV is 400 years old, 250 years old in the most common revision in use; there has been a lot of progress with understanding language since and there has been a relaxation of the political constraints of the time that led to an over emphasis on word for word literalism when a more dynamically equivalent rendering would perhaps have been truer to the intent; one had to reckon with suspicious and hostile critics looking for any handy excuse to reject and on balance the safest path was what is often the second best technical translation option, knowing that the translation operated in the context of scholarship and a tradition of educated clergy able to draw out deeper features and nuances. In short, first class exegesis and preaching are a necessary companion to popular translation into the vernacular; something that is too often overlooked. But, on balance the KJV is rightfully regarded as a classic of translation and as a blessing in its own right. Other versions sometimes tend to follow its precedent too much, for various reasons. But the wider point is that text without context is pretext; the context at multiple levels makes it clear that human oversight of Creation is a stewardship with accountability and responsibility to manage wisely rather than abuse and despoil. KF Someone's asking to get tossed in the volcano.  Burn the heretic! This is a taste of the awful passive-aggressive fate that awaits Gordo and all who doubt the infallibility of God's own 17th century English. -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,12:46    Quote (midwifetoad @ April 22 2015,07:40) Barry is a lawyer. I give him credit for recognizing and running away from a no-win situation. The nobodies at UD can blather about biblical slaves being well treated and better off, but if he defends slavery, his life as a public attorney is pretty much over. And it could be the end of the ID movement under current management. Mostly lawyers. On the other hand, if he says slavery is objectively immoral, he has a problem with religion. yup.

rossum Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,15:09    Quote (midwifetoad @ April 22 2015,12:09) Just as the original Hebrew and Greek were inspired by and overseen by the Deity, so was the translation of the KJV. No, no.  You have it wrong.  The KJV is the original.  God gave Moses a copy of the KJV and a pair of magic glasses, so he could read it and translate it from English into Hebrew. -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,15:21    Quote (rossum @ April 22 2015,15:09) Quote (midwifetoad @ April 22 2015,12:09) Just as the original Hebrew and Greek were inspired by and overseen by the Deity, so was the translation of the KJV. No, no.  You have it wrong.  The KJV is the original.  God gave Moses a copy of the KJV and a pair of magic glasses, so he could read it and translate it from English into Hebrew. THAT'S CRAZY TALK!   I know that Moses spoke English - I saw him speak it in a movie*... * Before you laugh too much - you know damn well that really ARE people that think this is true... GORDON- I'm looking at YOU! Edited by J-Dog on April 22 2015,15:24 -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,15:33    Everybody's favourite drama queen Gurdon (KairosFocus) Mullings is at it again. Quote DS, I have pointed out that here at UD we have dealt with many cases of evolutionary materialist atheists and fellow travellers who not only cling to a self-referentially incoherent ideology but are perfectly willing to burn down logic starting with first principles of reason. Far many more, are so locked into ideology that they become just that, locked in. KF

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,15:46    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 22 2015,10:17) In the Same thread KK has complained: Quote S, Kindly note my observation, some. In this thread I have had to deal with outing, personal attack and indirect personal attack meant to associate me as an advisor with a policy made to sound foolish by omitting highly material and easily ascertained facts that have been in global news headlines in many cases but which may now have faded from public memory. Just scroll up. The matter is so bad — and so bad in connexion with another attack in another forum emanating from much the same circles — that I have had to lay out more on my background than I would have liked. KF (emphasis mine) And he responds in part by linking to a document with his name on: http://www.angelfire.com/pro........_ja.htm Professional victim. This hypocrite is so full of himself that he would have used socks to out himself if nobody ever mentioned his real name. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

Glen Davidson Posts: 1100 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,16:51    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 22 2015,15:33) Everybody's favourite drama queen Gurdon (KairosFocus) Mullings is at it again. Quote DS, I have pointed out that here at UD we have dealt with many cases of evolutionary materialist atheists and fellow travellers who not only cling to a self-referentially incoherent ideology but are perfectly willing to burn down logic starting with first principles of reason. Far many more, are so locked into ideology that they become just that, locked in. KF So, if you're locked into ideology, you become locked in. How would we know such things without the Vulcan Polymath? Glen Davidson -------------- http://tinyurl.com/mxaa3p....p Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of coincidence---ID philosophy

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 22 2015,17:04    I sense a new eruption is about to come from the Caribbean Island of Montserrat: Quote 96 stenosemellaApril 22, 2015 at 3:50 pm Gordon: ” And, I have seen people more than willing to indulge in ugly threats against uninvolved family…” You have claimed this repeatedly but when asked to provide details you run away. Please stop pretending to be the victim. You claim victimization and act like a drama queen every time someone uses your real name. And then in the same thread you link to a document with your name on it. Have you ever heard about the boy who cried wolf? -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

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