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Quack Posts: 1961 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,02:29    Quote (Soapy Sam @ April 18 2015,19:08) The whirly thing has been showing permanently on the tab for me for, like, ever. At least the past year (Firefox). Anyway, if you can't get into UD, think of all the things you can do with the life time! :) Have you tried NoScript? -------------- Rocks have no biology.               Robert Byers.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,05:10    Google DNS server is definitely reporting that UD does not exist. Most people just use the default server provided by their isp. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,05:44    Quote (midwifetoad @ April 19 2015,11:10) Google DNS server is definitely reporting that UD does not exist. Then who was phone?

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,09:33    Quote (Woodbine @ April 19 2015,05:44) Quote (midwifetoad @ April 19 2015,11:10) Google DNS server is definitely reporting that UD does not exist. Then who was phone? Now even Dense and Dreary is jumping on Barry's materialism vs objective morality. Dense and Dreary It is nice to see UD stick to the science of ID.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,09:42    Quote (The whole truth @ April 18 2015,06:44) I knew this was coming. gordo the bloviating drama queen has posted a large load of his typical projectile vomit against materialists, scientism, Marxists, Lewontin!, Sagan, Darwinism, etc., etc., etc. And of course he shat the Plato's Cave crap for the gazillionth time and even posted an "animated version" video about it. Apparently the real Plato wasn't available to star in the video. http://tinyurl.com/qbaclm8....qbaclm8 And even though he put END (as usual) at the bottom of his rancid OP, he went on to post the first five comments in a row (so far). Obviously it wasn't enough for gordo to barf his other recent comments, such as numbers 33 and 34 in this thread: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments ETA: I had to replace the first url with a tiny url because the other one was too long to work. There are a total of 18 comments to this OP, 11 are from Gordon Mullings. Maybe this is just a new strategy. Rather that post and not allow comments, he posts and doesn't give anyone else the chance to comment.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,10:11    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 19 2015,09:42) Quote (The whole truth @ April 18 2015,06:44) I knew this was coming. gordo the bloviating drama queen has posted a large load of his typical projectile vomit against materialists, scientism, Marxists, Lewontin!, Sagan, Darwinism, etc., etc., etc. And of course he shat the Plato's Cave crap for the gazillionth time and even posted an "animated version" video about it. Apparently the real Plato wasn't available to star in the video. http://tinyurl.com/qbaclm8....qbaclm8 And even though he put END (as usual) at the bottom of his rancid OP, he went on to post the first five comments in a row (so far). Obviously it wasn't enough for gordo to barf his other recent comments, such as numbers 33 and 34 in this thread: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....omments ETA: I had to replace the first url with a tiny url because the other one was too long to work. There are a total of 18 comments to this OP, 11 are from Gordon Mullings. Maybe this is just a new strategy. Rather that post and not allow comments, he posts and doesn't give anyone else the chance to comment. The last lines in one of Gordo's comments: Quote PS: Notice, how the objectors are largely absent . . . I think we can thank Barry for that. And the fact that Gordo's OPs are so verbose and meandering that they are impossible to parse.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,11:09    Not sparse enough to parse?

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,11:22    Quote (Henry J @ April 19 2015,11:09) Not sparse enough to parse? Not coherent enough to parse.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,11:31    Barry's latest weapon in his arsenal is to post an OP listing materialist . Materialist Dodges. Any argument that he can't counter (which is almost all of them) he declares to be a materialist dodge and dismisses it. I wonder if they taught him this in ambulance chasing college.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,13:10    somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,14:08    Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,13:10) somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p Is anyone counting which "Materialist Dodges" he's using? -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,14:52    Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,19:10) somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p Pathetic level of morality? -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,17:08    Quote (Amadan @ April 19 2015,14:52) Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,19:10) somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p Pathetic level of morality? And this gem from Andre: Quote Slavery in biblical times was mostly good for slaves.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,18:23    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 19 2015,17:08) Quote (Amadan @ April 19 2015,14:52) Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,19:10) somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p Pathetic level of morality? And this gem from Andre: Quote Slavery in biblical times was mostly good for slaves. I had a long discussion with a kid about that. How debt slavery should be fine. It's just working off their debt. The concept of owning another person was fine with that good Christian kid. sigh. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,19:12    Along the same lines, I've kinda been wondering how many pregnant people and their fetuses Jebus' daddy killed in The Flud. If someone gets around to it, could we get Barry's take on that? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,20:42    In the "I dream; therefore, I cannot be a rationally coherent materialist" post, this exchange: velikovskys:   Quote Perhaps the information exists already, it is just accessed by material processes, but in your view how does the immaterial cause the brain to dream and what is the probabilty of that process? Barry Arrington:   Quote velikovskys @ 26: Thank you for the excellent example of MD11:    Materialist Dodge 11: The burden is always on you, never on me nkendall:   Quote To Velikovskys #26 [snip] I have no idea how that is accomplished or how it works. It is unknowable to the human mind. So the burden of explanation is not symmetrical for Theism vs Materialism. You do have to explain how information arises spontaneously in the brain, but I do not have to explain how it arises in the mind. This is not a dodge; it is an artifact of my category of claim vs yours. Irony. Meter. Blown. bolding in nkendall quote is mine. ETA: Added to whom nkendall was responding -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,21:23    Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,13:10) somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p That whole thread is surreal.  There's a whole flock of the IDiots over there trying to defend the idea that slavery isn't bad for the slaves. Words fail me. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,22:34    Quote (Lou FCD @ April 19 2015,19:12) Along the same lines, I've kinda been wondering how many pregnant people and their fetuses Jebus' daddy killed in The Flud. If someone gets around to it, could we get Barry's take on that? It was all okay though, because all of them were wicked.  So were all the bunnies, puppies, pandas, and kittens (except 2 or 7).  Moral quandary solved. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: April 19 2015,23:16    Quote (midwifetoad @ April 18 2015,19:19) I don't think UD is blocking anyone. I think the DNS servers got overloaded passing your browsing history off to the spooks. Particularly the fact that you frequent UD. A sure sign of mental instability. Are you saying that I'm mentally unstable? -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,04:08    Quote (The whole truth @ April 20 2015,07:16) Quote (midwifetoad @ April 18 2015,19:19) I don't think UD is blocking anyone. I think the DNS servers got overloaded passing your browsing history off to the spooks. Particularly the fact that you frequent UD. A sure sign of mental instability. Are you saying that I'm mentally unstable? no ...and not paranoid either -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,05:39    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 18 2015,13:14)     Quote (Lethean @ April 18 2015,12:00)     Quote (The whole truth @ April 16 2015,21:45) Fucking lunatics, the lot of them. FSTDT please. Wish Granted -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

KevinB Posts: 525 Joined: April 2013 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,06:30    Quote (Bob O'H @ April 19 2015,14:08)   Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,13:10) somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p Is anyone counting which "Materialist Dodges" he's using? No. Everything Barry posts is immaterial.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,10:46    Making fun of praying while defecating is racist and Islamophobic. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

JonF Posts: 634 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,11:16    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 19 2015,10:33) Now even Dense and Dreary is jumping on Barry's materialism vs objective morality. Dense and Dreary It is nice to see UD stick to the science of ID. Lost in the noise, a sparkling gem at http://tinyurl.com/q5e7rn8....5e7rn8:   Quote Bob O’H: Breaking laws of nature is impossible, so how do we know there are consequences?   Quote Wow, dude. This is not even wrong. Nothing can happen in the universe unless laws are broken. In fact, change/motion is nature’s way of correcting one or more violations to one or more laws/conservation principles.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,13:23    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 19 2015,22:23) Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,13:10) somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p That whole thread is surreal.  There's a whole flock of the IDiots over there trying to defend the idea that slavery isn't bad for the slaves. Words fail me. that's really their only way out. They've got to say slavery is OK, because it's Objective Morality Straight From Teh Bible, but if they just say that, everyone will know they're horrible cretins, so they're gonna have to say well That slavery wasn't Really like what You call slavery, which is bad, blah blah blah. Dim loudmouths babbling about philosophical issues quickly get lost in cul-de-sacs.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,13:38    Quote (stevestory @ April 20 2015,13:23) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 19 2015,22:23) Quote (stevestory @ April 19 2015,13:10) somebody over there is asking barry "Is slavery objectively wrong?" and barry apparently can't answer it, and he's being called out repeatedly, and his excuse is "I don't feel a need to jump your hoops" and he probably thinks he looks clever. It's awesome.  :p That whole thread is surreal.  There's a whole flock of the IDiots over there trying to defend the idea that slavery isn't bad for the slaves. Words fail me. that's really their only way out. They've got to say slavery is OK, because it's Objective Morality Straight From Teh Bible, but if they just say that, everyone will know they're horrible cretins, so they're gonna have to say well That slavery wasn't Really like what You call slavery, which is bad, blah blah blah. Dim loudmouths babbling about philosophical issues quickly get lost in cul-de-sacs. Barry still refuses to answer that very simple question. Rather, he dismisses the commenter as an asshat. At this point, he has simply run away like the coward he is.

tsig Posts: 339 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,14:41    Quote (JohnW @ April 14 2015,11:54) Quote (KevinB @ April 14 2015,06:03) This caught my eye a few lines down.   Quote (Kouros Photos @ today) We all must get up day by day and fight with our inner fool. I think he's losing...... Gordon's inner fool is fighting with his outer fool. It's a fistaval of fools.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,15:19    rosenhouse Quote A Few More Words About Morality Posted by jrosenhouse on April 16, 2015 (132) More » You really must check in on the big morality discussion over at Uncommon Descent. Barry Arrington has done another post on the subject. It’s just more snarling and buffoonery, but I do suggest browsing the comments.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,16:10    From the Koch brothers sponsored department of Republican Revisionist history: Quote 31 AndreApril 19, 2015 at 2:13 pm And here is another person that don’t understand slavery in the Biblical context. Right Stenosesmella a few questions. … In 1500 BC was there such a thing as a democratic government? Careers? Pension? Medical Aid? Also was there such a thing as welfare? social workers? Police? Judicial system? Prisons? Hospitals? Slavery in biblical times was mostly good for slaves. If a rich person did not take you in you’d be dead. Slavery in biblical times was almost always voluntary with clear rules and a handsome pay out when it was time to be freed. The ignorance of the feeble minded saddens me. You see your slaves were your basic moocher class, bronze age welfare queens who had it easy. This is before Jesus came back as John Galt. The just laid around waiting for their "handsome pay out" whilst who had to do all the whipping and raping? That's right, the SLAVE OWNERS! This also (like PCD) disproves evolution because as folks basically just die without being slaves someone must have set up this cushy system from day 1. CHECK MATE. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: April 20 2015,16:40    Quote (Richardthughes @ April 20 2015,16:10) From the Koch brothers sponsored department of Republican Revisionist history: Quote 31 AndreApril 19, 2015 at 2:13 pm And here is another person that don’t understand slavery in the Biblical context. Right Stenosesmella a few questions. … In 1500 BC was there such a thing as a democratic government? Careers? Pension? Medical Aid? Also was there such a thing as welfare? social workers? Police? Judicial system? Prisons? Hospitals? Slavery in biblical times was mostly good for slaves. If a rich person did not take you in you’d be dead. Slavery in biblical times was almost always voluntary with clear rules and a handsome pay out when it was time to be freed. The ignorance of the feeble minded saddens me. You see your slaves were your basic moocher class, bronze age welfare queens who had it easy. This is before Jesus came back as John Galt. The just laid around waiting for their "handsome pay out" whilst who had to do all the whipping and raping? That's right, the SLAVE OWNERS! This also (like PCD) disproves evolution because as folks basically just die without being slaves someone must have set up this cushy system from day 1. CHECK MATE. I knew that Cecil B. Demille was lying to us in The Ten Commandments? Those pyramids weren't built by slaves, they randomly assembled themselves when a tornado rolled through a quarry.

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